South Asia Indian vlogger goes to Israel and isn't allowed into any bars

[Bilal9]

I have had extensive contact with the Arab world over the last 30 years and have visited all of its countries. To your surprise, I find the Saudi men and women to be the most well-mannered Arabs, even Middle Easterners, I have ever met. The worst experience I had in Syria and I knew immediately that this place would be doomed and it was.

This re-inforces my belief is that there is no alternative to education and exposure as the medicine for a large portion of the middle east population.

 

[Lulldapull]

I found the opposite to be true. Most Israelis are indifferent towards us. It's Arabs and other Middle Easterners who hate Pakistanis. As well as North Africans. Even amongst Turks, there exist a huge chunk of hardcore haters.

I experienced one of them and found a few online.

But after reading stuff online as well as seeing videos, including Q&A with Israelis, I believe my anecdotes are more correct. Israelis dislike us the least. It's our so-called "Muslim brothers" in the Middle East who hate us while we worship them in the name of "Ummah." Really annoying.

Yaar most Irani yahudi/ bahai left iran via our country. So they lived in Karachi or Isloo and they always poked fun at us in da west puttin us down as deen miskeen. Its very bad.....almost like ehsaan faramosh budtameez behavior. Aik to in haramion de jaan hum nay bachaee, and dis how dey talk about us?.....I was so embarrassed as a young teenager coming across these budtameez basturds.

 

[Old School]

Would you point to lack of education and exposure as the cause?

There are people in our hill tracts areas too (as well as people in Indian NE seven sisters areas) who are like this.

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

 

[Bilal9]

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

I guess it takes several generations to grow out of this insular mentality that is a collective/societal/tribal coping mechanism to survive in a harsh environment.

I guess rishta between Bengali and KPK families is out-of-the-question then?

Though I have seen plenty of upper middle class Afghani-Bangladeshi couples in Bangladesh with people coming from various ethnicities in Afghanistan.

But you are correct, I have to read up about KPK tribal practice, of which I only know of the gun-culture aspect.

 

[Old School]

I guess it takes several generations to grow out of this insular mentality that is a coping mechanism to survive in a harsh environment.

I guess rishta between Bengali and KPK families is out-of-the-question then?

Though I have seen plenty of upper middle class Afghani-Bangladeshi couples in Bangladesh with people coming from various ethnicities in Afghanistan.

Afghani and those of the FATA agencies in KPK are not the same. Very different. They openly glorify this culture and you have probably never met them in person. They even practice tribal cultures making it part of Islam. It is tribal identity which is mixture of tribal pride multiplied by Islam. it is very difficult to change when it is openly glorified. They easily disown someone or families who start doing things differently which can make one completely outcast. That is why they are so special and you have to read about them.

 

[Lulldapull]

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

Afghani, Tajik, Uzbeki in da same category......all deez mongols are kaafir dalits. Iran China and Russia need to come up with a solution. I know gulags are illegal now and so are concentration camps. Maybe Chinese reeducation camps is the answer?

 

[Old School]

Afghani, Tajik, Uzbeki in da same category......all deez mongols are kaafir dalits. Iran China and Russia need to come up with a solution. I know gulags are illegal now and so are concentration camps. Maybe Chinese reeducation camps is the answer?

We need reeducation camps in Pakistan, too. The first lesson will be to make them forget cricket and TV serials. The next is to ban beards for all males under the age of 60. Then we will see another jihadi Lashkar ( Tehreek for the western borders) rebels taking training in Indian camps to launch attack on us. Not surprising though !!

 

[Lulldapull]

We need reeducation camps in Pakistan, too. The first lesson will be to make them forget cricket and TV serials. The next is to ban beards for all males under the age of 60. Then we will see another jihadi Lashkar ( Tehreek for the western borders) rebels taking training in Indian camps to launch attack on us. Not surprising though !!

These FATA basturds and their afghani pashto backers have killed well over 150k of our citizens since 9-11 happened. Anybody denying dis should be dragged out of their house and beaten to a pulp with a baseball bat. I personally know pak army people who have served in the south Waziristan COIN ops and it is amazing just how vicious and wild these tribals are. These FATA people are our true enemies. Mirali, Kohat, Buner, orakzai, Kurram, Dir Bajaur, Mohmand......all these agencies are hell holes of wild tribalism and extreme jahalat. All attackers of poor Chinese engineers working on CPEC dams and powerplants up north are people from our FATA.

 

[Old School]

These FATA basturds and their afghani pashto backers have killed well over 150k of our citizens since 9-11 happened. Anybody denying dis should be dragged out of their house and beaten to a pulp with a baseball bat. I personally know pak army people who have served in the south Waziristan COIN ops and it is amazing just how vicious and wild these tribals are. These FATA people are our true enemies. Mirali, Kohat, Buner, orakzai, Kurram, Dir Bajaur, Mohmand......all these agencies are hell holes of wild tribalism and extreme jahalat. All attackers of poor Chinese engineers working on CPEC dams and powerplants up north are people from our FATA.

No one can reeducate those FATA agencies people because for them their tribal laws and mullah sermons are the best knowledge base mankind has ever seen. That mentality has multiplied by the Islamic evangelists like Jokar Nayak who claims that Islam is the supreme law and science above all sciences and laws on earth. We are doomed to destruction.

 

[ThunderCat]

Yaar most Irani yahudi/ bahai left iran via our country. So they lived in Karachi or Isloo and they always poked fun at us in da west puttin us down as deen miskeen. Its very bad.....almost like ehsaan faramosh budtameez behavior. Aik to in haramion de jaan hum nay bachaee, and dis how dey talk about us?.....I was so embarrassed as a young teenager coming across these budtameez basturds.

That is part of the common Iranian hatred for Pakistanis. My parents hosted such Jews and when my father asked what Iranians think of Pakistanis, it was the same negative BS.

 

[ThunderCat]

Racial hatred is built into human DNA as an evolutionary trait. One can overcome this problem through education. Philosopher Aristotle believed that a human is an animal that can read and write. Without it, Humans are just animals.

Humans are tribal, meaning they'll hate their own kind on ideological grounds. Even animals have this trait. I remember seeing a documentary on wolf pack hunters attempting to kill each other over hunting grounds.

A badly hurt wolf was rescued by wildlife officials and he was mauled by another wolf in a fight. A fight that had no human involvement whatsoever.

 

[ThunderCat]

The most racist and xenophobic place on earth is our former FATA agencies ( now KPK).

Probably as a result of being infested by Afghans

 

[ThunderCat]

Well not just yahoods - Iranians generally have low opinion of Arabs, especially underclass uneducated Arabs.

It is sad how these ignorant prejudices persist, though both groups have been exploited similarly through the ages by their common Western enemies.

They don't see the West as their enemies. The Middle Eastern countries are far more racist than the West could be.

 

[Old School]

Humans are tribal, meaning they'll hate their own kind on ideological grounds. Even animals have this trait. I remember seeing a documentary on wolf pack hunters attempting to kill each other over hunting grounds.

A badly hurt wolf was rescued by wildlife officials and he was mauled by another wolf in a fight. A fight that had no human involvement whatsoever.

In China, when they released the lab reproduced Pandas in to the forrest, wild Pandas attacked and killed those poor lab produced Pandas. All animals are tribal.

 

[Lulldapull]

No one can reeducate those FATA agencies people because for them their tribal laws and mullah sermons are the best knowledge base mankind has ever seen. That mentality has multiplied by the Islamic evangelists like Jokar Nayak who claims that Islam is the supreme law and science above all sciences and laws on earth. We are doomed to destruction.

I am begining to understand now that zakir na laiq might just be on da agency's payroll. Nothing else makes sense.