South Asia Indian vlogger goes to Israel and isn't allowed into any bars

[Bilal9]

Lol saw a tweet about this on twitter

Yahoods generally are not overly eager to have non-Westerners as tourists in their country.

The fear and local consensus is that non-Westerners are up to no good and will cavort with Filistinis to destabilize the country - which could not be farther from reality. There are other places far more civilized, no need to go there.

This is the face of Is-real. If their immigration knows you are Muslim (which they will by your name), then Allah help you. Your education level or wealth in Western countries does not matter. You will be harassed to no end until you leave and you yourself will vow never to return. I know several younger desi millenials who went there and have faced this treatment. Is-real is not a welcoming place for non-westerners.

 

[Bilal9]

It is a natural defense mechanism from human evolutionary pressure. Based on my experience, I would also avoid the Moroccans, Egyptians, and other Maghrebis. There have been just too many bad experiences. Why should people knowingly take risks when it involves serious matters like marriage? Marriage with foreigners is complex and often difficult to sustain over time.

I remember going to one Egyptian store in Anaheim some 20 yrs. ago and this store owner started yelling at some desis for no reason. Uncultured obtuse block-headed idiot. Haven't been back but I heard the store closed down five years after that incident.

The entire city of Anaheim is full of Sheesha hookah bars and Arab restaurants, some are great places to hang out. Arab central.

Little interactions with Moroccans and Maghrebis, though I had Algerian and Tunisian buddies while in college.

The younger Egyptians though may be better because they are educated and more informed. Some Bengali friends of mine had their relatives marry educated Egyptians from upper middle class families.

 

[Old School]

I remember going to one Egyptian store in Anaheim some 20 yrs. ago and this store owner started yelling at some desis for no reason. Uncultured obtuse block-headed idiot. Haven't been back but I heard the store closed down five years after that incident.

The entire city of Anaheim is full of Sheesha hookah bars and Arab restaurants, some are great places to hang out. Arab central.

Little interactions with Moroccans and Maghrebis, though I had Algerian and Tunisian buddies while in college.

The younger Egyptians though may be better because they are educated and more informed. Some Bengali friends of mine had their relatives marry educated Egyptians from upper middle class families.

I have had extensive contact with the Arab world over the last 30 years and have visited all of its countries. To your surprise, I find the Saudi men and women to be the most well-mannered Arabs, even Middle Easterners, I have ever met. The worst experience I had in Syria and I knew immediately that this place would be doomed and it was.

 

[Lulldapull]

Most middle easterners are good people but I found the Israeli to be the most racist/ budtameez/ hostile toward us. They just worship da west. Hard to believe but they should be at their best behavior toward other middle easterners considering their situation/ population, but no!

 

[Old School]

Most middle easterners are good people but I found the Israeli to be the most racist/ budtameez/ hostile toward us. They just worship da west. Hard to believe but they should be at their best behavior toward other middle easterners considering their situation/ population, but no!

The most racist and xenophobic place on earth is our former FATA agencies ( now KPK).

 

[ThunderCat]

I was so surprised to see the level of discrimination/ bigotry in their society. Just amazing. ......I mean this guy I knew and he treated arbi yahudi working in his business like jungli khotay...........boht budtameezi...

I saw an entire documentary on it. On VHS/VCR in 2002. A video cassette borrowed from the library. One was on the Israeli-Arab conflict and another on inter-Jewish discrimination within Israeli society.

 

[ThunderCat]

Most middle easterners are good people but I found the Israeli to be the most racist/ budtameez/ hostile toward us. They just worship da west. Hard to believe but they should be at their best behavior toward other middle easterners considering their situation/ population, but no!

I found the opposite to be true. Most Israelis are indifferent towards us. It's Arabs and other Middle Easterners who hate Pakistanis. As well as North Africans. Even amongst Turks, there exist a huge chunk of hardcore haters.

I experienced one of them and found a few online.

But after reading stuff online as well as seeing videos, including Q&A with Israelis, I believe my anecdotes are more correct. Israelis dislike us the least. It's our so-called "Muslim brothers" in the Middle East who hate us while we worship them in the name of "Ummah." Really annoying.

 

[ThunderCat]

Well not just yahoods - Iranians generally have low opinion of Arabs, especially underclass uneducated Arabs.

It is sad how these ignorant prejudices persist, though both groups have been exploited similarly through the ages by their common Western enemies.

They hate South Asians & Afghans just as much:

THE IRANIAN: Satire, speaking English, dAyi Hamid

 

[Old School]

Racial hatred is built into human DNA as an evolutionary trait. One can overcome this problem through education. Philosopher Aristotle believed that a human is an animal that can read and write. Without it, Humans are just animals.

 

[Bilal9]

The most racist and xenophobic place on earth is our former FATA agencies ( now KPK).

Would you point to lack of education and exposure as the cause?

There are people in our hill tracts areas too (as well as people in Indian NE seven sisters areas) who are like this.

 

[Bilal9]

I have had extensive contact with the Arab world over the last 30 years and have visited all of its countries. To your surprise, I find the Saudi men and women to be the most well-mannered Arabs, even Middle Easterners, I have ever met. The worst experience I had in Syria and I knew immediately that this place would be doomed and it was.

This re-inforces my belief is that there is no alternative to education and exposure as the medicine for a large portion of the middle east population.

 

[Lulldapull]

I found the opposite to be true. Most Israelis are indifferent towards us. It's Arabs and other Middle Easterners who hate Pakistanis. As well as North Africans. Even amongst Turks, there exist a huge chunk of hardcore haters.

I experienced one of them and found a few online.

But after reading stuff online as well as seeing videos, including Q&A with Israelis, I believe my anecdotes are more correct. Israelis dislike us the least. It's our so-called "Muslim brothers" in the Middle East who hate us while we worship them in the name of "Ummah." Really annoying.

Yaar most Irani yahudi/ bahai left iran via our country. So they lived in Karachi or Isloo and they always poked fun at us in da west puttin us down as deen miskeen. Its very bad.....almost like ehsaan faramosh budtameez behavior. Aik to in haramion de jaan hum nay bachaee, and dis how dey talk about us?.....I was so embarrassed as a young teenager coming across these budtameez basturds.

 

[Old School]

Would you point to lack of education and exposure as the cause?

There are people in our hill tracts areas too (as well as people in Indian NE seven sisters areas) who are like this.

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

 

[Bilal9]

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

I guess it takes several generations to grow out of this insular mentality that is a collective/societal/tribal coping mechanism to survive in a harsh environment.

I guess rishta between Bengali and KPK families is out-of-the-question then?

Though I have seen plenty of upper middle class Afghani-Bangladeshi couples in Bangladesh with people coming from various ethnicities in Afghanistan.

But you are correct, I have to read up about KPK tribal practice, of which I only know of the gun-culture aspect.

 

[Old School]

I guess it takes several generations to grow out of this insular mentality that is a coping mechanism to survive in a harsh environment.

I guess rishta between Bengali and KPK families is out-of-the-question then?

Though I have seen plenty of upper middle class Afghani-Bangladeshi couples in Bangladesh with people coming from various ethnicities in Afghanistan.

Afghani and those of the FATA agencies in KPK are not the same. Very different. They openly glorify this culture and you have probably never met them in person. They even practice tribal cultures making it part of Islam. It is tribal identity which is mixture of tribal pride multiplied by Islam. it is very difficult to change when it is openly glorified. They easily disown someone or families who start doing things differently which can make one completely outcast. That is why they are so special and you have to read about them.

 

[Lulldapull]

I have seen educated people from that part of KPK area who now live in the west are as xenophobic as an illiterate. You have to read about their tribal traditions and culture which even the British could not decode. It is a very special case and well known all over Pakistan. It can get sometiomes so so extreme that peopel get killed. Many NE Indian, sub-Saharan and Arab tribes are not that extreme and they are open to include outsiders to their tribes under certain conditions.

Afghani, Tajik, Uzbeki in da same category......all deez mongols are kaafir dalits. Iran China and Russia need to come up with a solution. I know gulags are illegal now and so are concentration camps. Maybe Chinese reeducation camps is the answer?

 

[Old School]

Afghani, Tajik, Uzbeki in da same category......all deez mongols are kaafir dalits. Iran China and Russia need to come up with a solution. I know gulags are illegal now and so are concentration camps. Maybe Chinese reeducation camps is the answer?

We need reeducation camps in Pakistan, too. The first lesson will be to make them forget cricket and TV serials. The next is to ban beards for all males under the age of 60. Then we will see another jihadi Lashkar ( Tehreek for the western borders) rebels taking training in Indian camps to launch attack on us. Not surprising though !!

 

[Lulldapull]

We need reeducation camps in Pakistan, too. The first lesson will be to make them forget cricket and TV serials. The next is to ban beards for all males under the age of 60. Then we will see another jihadi Lashkar ( Tehreek for the western borders) rebels taking training in Indian camps to launch attack on us. Not surprising though !!

These FATA basturds and their afghani pashto backers have killed well over 150k of our citizens since 9-11 happened. Anybody denying dis should be dragged out of their house and beaten to a pulp with a baseball bat. I personally know pak army people who have served in the south Waziristan COIN ops and it is amazing just how vicious and wild these tribals are. These FATA people are our true enemies. Mirali, Kohat, Buner, orakzai, Kurram, Dir Bajaur, Mohmand......all these agencies are hell holes of wild tribalism and extreme jahalat. All attackers of poor Chinese engineers working on CPEC dams and powerplants up north are people from our FATA.

 

[Old School]

These FATA basturds and their afghani pashto backers have killed well over 150k of our citizens since 9-11 happened. Anybody denying dis should be dragged out of their house and beaten to a pulp with a baseball bat. I personally know pak army people who have served in the south Waziristan COIN ops and it is amazing just how vicious and wild these tribals are. These FATA people are our true enemies. Mirali, Kohat, Buner, orakzai, Kurram, Dir Bajaur, Mohmand......all these agencies are hell holes of wild tribalism and extreme jahalat. All attackers of poor Chinese engineers working on CPEC dams and powerplants up north are people from our FATA.

No one can reeducate those FATA agencies people because for them their tribal laws and mullah sermons are the best knowledge base mankind has ever seen. That mentality has multiplied by the Islamic evangelists like Jokar Nayak who claims that Islam is the supreme law and science above all sciences and laws on earth. We are doomed to destruction.

 

[ThunderCat]

Yaar most Irani yahudi/ bahai left iran via our country. So they lived in Karachi or Isloo and they always poked fun at us in da west puttin us down as deen miskeen. Its very bad.....almost like ehsaan faramosh budtameez behavior. Aik to in haramion de jaan hum nay bachaee, and dis how dey talk about us?.....I was so embarrassed as a young teenager coming across these budtameez basturds.

That is part of the common Iranian hatred for Pakistanis. My parents hosted such Jews and when my father asked what Iranians think of Pakistanis, it was the same negative BS.