World Iran Vs Israel 2025 War Discussion

[Egyptian]

Actually I want the US to attack Iran.......what this will do is to totally expose the junk US military power 'pedaling' once n for all.

Not a good idea, Lull.

Trump is also in a tight space. The Pentagon Neocons are watching this and knowing Trump may be playing 4D chess with them - watching Israel got rocked and not doing anything. But also the plan to assassinate him by the Mossad being at play.

 

[Lulldapull]

Not a good idea, Lull.

Trump is also in a tight space. The Pentagon Neocons are watching this and knowing Trump may be playing 4D chess with them - watching Israel got rocked and not doing anything. But also the plan to assassinate him by the Mossad being at play.

The lidz gotta be blown/ cat comin outta da bag no?

All these 2 rupee muzlim outfits living on handouts/ charity?

Dis shiit gotta go........

Only Iran can do this along with Russia in Uki theater.

China is just a nobody. And in all fairness, the Chinese don't care......they're not geo-political people.......never have been........just business.

No kidding china weaponry sucks!

 

[Saif]

Putin and Xi condemn Israel over its Iran strikes in phone call, Kremlin says

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping both condemned Israel on Thursday over its strikes on Iran and agreed that de-escalation was needed, the Kremlin said after the two leaders spoke by telephone. Putin and Xi “strongly condemn Israel’s actions, which viola

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Putin and Xi condemn Israel over its Iran strikes in phone call, Kremlin says

REUTERS
Published :
Jun 19, 2025 18:43
Updated :
Jun 19, 2025 18:43

Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a meeting with President of the New Development Bank Dilma Rousseff on the sidelines of the St Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF) at the Constantine Palace in Strelna in the suburb of Saint Petersburg, Russia Jun 18, 2025. Photo : Sputnik/Alexei Danichev/Pool via REUTERS

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping both condemned Israel on Thursday over its strikes on Iran and agreed that de-escalation was needed, the Kremlin said after the two leaders spoke by telephone.

Putin and Xi “strongly condemn Israel’s actions, which violate the UN Charter and other norms of international law,” Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov told reporters.

“Both Moscow and Beijing fundamentally believe that there is no military solution to the current situation and issues related to Iran’s nuclear programme.

“This solution must be achieved exclusively through political and diplomatic means,” said Ushakov.

Without naming the United States, Xi said during the call that “major countries” with “special influence” in the region should step up diplomatic efforts to cool down the situation, according to a readout from China’s official Xinhua news agency.

“The warring parties, especially Israel, should cease fire as soon as possible to prevent a cycle of escalation and resolutely avoid the spillover of the war,” Xi said.

He also urged efforts to protect civilians, calling on Israel and Iran to facilitate the evacuation of citizens from other countries.

Russia has warned of catastrophe should the Israel-Iran conflict, now in its seventh day, escalate further, and has urged the US not to join Israel’s bombardment.

Putin has been in touch with US President Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian in recent days and has repeatedly said Russia stands ready to mediate between the warring sides.

Thus far, no one has taken up Russia’s offer.

On Thursday, Putin reiterated that proposition in his phone call with Xi, a close ally.

The Chinese leader expressed support for the idea, Ushakov said, “as he believes it could serve to de-escalate the current acute situation.” The Chinese readout made no mention of such support from Xi.

The two men agreed to keep in close contact in the coming days.

Beijing has long backed Tehran as part of efforts to deepen its strategic and economic heft in the Middle East.

Extending a financial lifeline to Iran amid US sanctions on Tehran, China buys up to 90 percent of Iran’s crude oil exports, say analysts, in transhipment trades off the coast of Malaysia.​

 

[Saif]

Russia warns US against 'military intervention' in Iran-Israel war

Russia on Thursday warned the United States not to take military action against Iran, amid speculation over whether Washington would enter the war alongside Israel

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Russia warns US against 'military intervention' in Iran-Israel war

AFP Moscow, Russia
Published: 19 Jun 2025, 22: 32

Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova Reuters

Russia on Thursday warned the United States not to take military action against Iran, amid speculation over whether Washington would enter the war alongside Israel.

Israel launched an unprecedented wave of strikes at Iran last week, to which Tehran responded with missile and drone attacks.

Moscow is one of Iran's most important allies, with the two deepening military cooperation and inking a strategic partnership agreement just a few months ago.

But the Kremlin has not provided military support to Iran in the face of Israeli air strikes, and President Vladimir Putin is pitching himself as a possible mediator even as he condemns Israel.

"We would like to particularly warn Washington against military intervention in the situation," Russian foreign ministry's spokeswoman Maria Zakharova told reporters.

US President Donald Trump had said Wednesday he was considering join Israel's strikes on Iran.

"I may do it, I may not do it," he said.

He also rejected Russia's offer to broker peace, saying he told Putin to resolve the Ukraine conflict first.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Thursday that it was not up to Trump to reject Putin's offer.

"These services can be accepted by countries that are currently directly involved in the conflict," he said.

'Not asked'

Zakharova warned any US military action "would be an extremely dangerous step with truly unpredictable negative consequences".

Moscow issued its warning after Putin spoke with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, with the pair blasting Israel.

Putin and Xi "strongly condemn Israel's actions," the Kremlin said after the call.

Putin aide Yuri Ushakov told reporters that Moscow and Beijing believed the end to the hostilities "should be achieved exclusively by political and diplomatic means".

Russia has for years been a key actor in the Middle East, managing to maintain warm relations with all major players in the region.

But the fall of key ally Bashar al-Assad in Syria last year, and Israel's war in Gaza -- which Putin has repeatedly raised concerns about -- have threatened to dent that position.

Despite their close military ties, Putin said Iran had not requested military help in the week since Israel launched its attacks.

"Our Iranian friends have not asked us about this," Putin said in response to a question from an AFP reporter at a late-night televised press conference in Saint Petersburg.

He also pointed out that the treaty signed in January was not a mutual defence pact and did not oblige either side to provide arms or assistance.

Asked what steps Russia would take if Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was assassinated, Putin said: "I don't even want to discuss such a possibility."

His spokesman said later Thursday that Russia would be prepared to send humanitarian aid, if requested to by Tehran.

'Mediate your own'

In their phone call, Xi told Putin that a ceasefire was "top priority" and also criticised Israel.

"Promoting a ceasefire and cessation of hostilities is the top priority. Armed force is not the correct way to resolve international disputes," Xi said, according to China's state news agency Xinhua.

"Parties to the conflict, especially Israel, should cease hostilities as soon as possible to prevent a cyclical escalation and resolutely avoid the spillover of the war," he added.

Last week, Putin held phone calls with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, offering himself as a peacemaker.

The Kremlin said that Xi had spoken "in favour of such mediation, since he believes that it could serve to de-escalate the current situation", Ushakov said.

But Western leaders, including Trump and France's Emmanuel Macron have pushed back against the idea of Putin trying to mediate the conflict amid his own Ukraine offensive.

"He actually offered to help mediate, I said: 'do me a favour, mediate your own'," Trump told reporters on Wednesday about Putin's efforts.

"Let's mediate Russia first, okay? I said, Vladimir, let's mediate Russia first, you can worry about this later."​

 

[Saif]

Trump faces uproar from MAGA base over possible Iran strike

Some of Trump's most prominent Republican allies, including top lieutenant Steve Bannon, have found themselves in the unusual position of being at odds with a president who largely shares their isolationist tendencies.

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Trump faces uproar from MAGA base over possible Iran strike

Reuters Washington
Published: 19 Jun 2025, 20: 49

US President Donald Trump holds a 'Make America Great Again' (MAGA) hat as he attends the commencement ceremony at West Point Military Academy in West Point, New York, US, 24 May, 2025. Reuters

The prospect of a US strike against Iran has exposed divisions in the coalition of supporters that brought President Donald Trump to power, with some of his base urging him not to get the country involved in a new Middle East war.

Some of Trump's most prominent Republican allies, including top lieutenant Steve Bannon, have found themselves in the unusual position of being at odds with a president who largely shares their isolationist tendencies.

Bannon, one of many influential voices from Trump's "America First" coalition, on Wednesday urged caution about the US military joining Israel in trying to destroy Iran's nuclear program in the absence of a diplomatic deal.

"We can't do this again," Bannon told reporters at an event sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor in Washington. "We'll tear the country apart. We can't have another Iraq."

The anti-interventionist part of the Republican Party is watching with alarm as Trump has moved swiftly from seeking a peaceful diplomatic settlement with Iran to possibly having the United States support Israel's military campaign, including the use of a 30,000-pound "bunker buster" bomb.

The criticism shows the opposition Trump could face from his right-leaning "Make America Great Again" flank should he join the fight, a step that Iran has warned would have big consequences for Americans without specifying what that might be.

A decision by Trump to enter the conflict would be a sharp departure from his usual caution about foreign entanglements. It could impact his campaign to foster good relations in the Gulf and could be a distraction from his efforts to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine and make tariff deals with countries around the world.

The MAGA coalition propelled Trump into office in the 2016 and 2024 elections and remains critically important to him even though he is prevented by the US Constitution from running for a third term.

Upsetting that base could erode Trump's popularity and factor into whether Republicans hang on to control of Congress in the 2026 midterm elections.

Iran cannot have a ‘nuclear weapon’

Asked about the rift on Wednesday, Trump appeared unconcerned that some in his base could be turning its back on him, at least on this issue.

"My supporters are more in love with me today, and I'm in love with them more than they were even at election time," Trump told reporters at the White House. "I only want one thing: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon."

He said some of his supporters "are a little bit unhappy now" but that others agree with him that Iran cannot become a nuclear power.

"I'm not looking to fight. But if it's a choice between them fighting or having a nuclear weapon, you have to do what you have to do," Trump said.

Marc Short, an ally of former Vice President Mike Pence who served as Trump's legislative director during his first term, called the division over Iran within Trump's party a "pretty large rift." He said he thought Trump's base would stay with him despite the differences, however.

"The divisions are obviously coming out in the open in this moment, but ultimately I think that most of the president's followers are loyal to him more so than any worldview," he said.

Short said standing with Israel could help Trump politically, too. Traditionally conservative voters favor standing by Israel. In a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted in March, 48 per cent of Republicans agreed with a statement that the US should use its military power to defend Israel from threats no matter where the threats come from, compared to 28 per cent who disagreed. Among Democrats, 25 per cent agreed and 52 per cent disagreed.

International experts believe Iran has been intent on developing a nuclear weapon, despite Tehran's denials, and Israel believes it would be at risk as a result. US officials believe if Iran possessed an atomic weapon it would trigger a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.

Israelis need to get job done

Bannon, host of the popular "War Room" podcast, said "the Israelis need to finish what they started" and that Trump should slow down deliberations over US involvement and explain his decision-making.

"This is one of the most ancient civilizations in the world, okay, with 92 million people. This is not something you play around with. You have to think this through at this level, and the American people have to be on board. You can't just dump this on them," he said.

Other influential MAGA voices with similar messages of worry include former Fox News Channel host Tucker Carlson and US Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Georgia Republican and long-time Trump ally.

"Anyone slobbering for the US to become fully involved in the Israel/Iran war is not America First/MAGA," Greene said in a social media post on Sunday. "We are sick and tired of foreign wars. All of them."

But another Trump ally, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, said on Fox News on Tuesday that he hopes Trump will help Israel "finish the job" because Iran represents "an existential threat to our friends in Israel."

The rift was on full display when Carlson, on his streaming program, clashed with Republican Senator Ted Cruz of Texas late on Tuesday.

A clip from Carlson's interview with Cruz went viral with Carlson strongly criticising the senator for seeking regime change in Iran, and Cruz expressing support for the president.

"You don’t know anything about Iran!" Carlson told Cruz.

"I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran," Cruz fired back.

"You're a senator who's calling for the overthrow of the government," Carlson retorted.

Vice President JD Vance tried to tamp down talk of a rift on Monday with a social media post defending the president.

"People are right to be worried about foreign entanglement after the last 25 years of idiotic foreign policy. But I believe the president has earned some trust on this issue," he said.

Now allies and opponents are waiting on Trump's decision-making process. The president said on Wednesday afternoon he had some ideas on how to proceed but had not made a final decision.​

 

[Saif]

Putin, Xi 'strongly condemn' Israeli strikes on Iran, urge diplomatic solution

Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on Thursday strongly condemned Israeli attacks on Iran in a phone call

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Putin, Xi 'strongly condemn' Israeli strikes on Iran, urge diplomatic solution

AFP
Published: 19 Jun 2025, 17: 29

China's President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin pose with Mongolia's President during their trilateral meeting on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) leaders' summit in Samarkand on 15 September, 2022 AFP file photo

Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on Thursday strongly condemned Israeli attacks on Iran in a phone call and stressed the need for a diplomatic solution, Moscow and Beijing said.

Israel has launched an unprecedented wave of strikes at Iran that prompted Tehran to respond with its own attacks with missiles and drones.

Putin and Xi "strongly condemn Israel's actions", Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov told reporters after the call.

He added that Moscow and Beijing believed the end to the hostilities "should be achieved exclusively by political and diplomatic means".

Xi told Putin that a ceasefire was the "top priority" and urged Israel to halt its attacks, Chinese state media reported.

"Promoting a ceasefire and cessation of hostilities is the top priority. Armed force is not the correct way to resolve international disputes," Xi said, according to China's state news agency Xinhua.

"Parties to the conflict, especially Israel, should cease hostilities as soon as possible to prevent a cyclical escalation and resolutely avoid the spillover of the war," he added.

Putin is pitching himself as a mediator between the warring sides.

Russia is close to Iran, having boosted military ties amid its offensive on Ukraine, but also strives for good relations with Israel.

Last week, Putin held phone calls with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, offering himself as a peacemaker.

The Kremlin said that Xi had spoken "in favour of such mediation, since he believes that it could serve to de-escalate the current situation", Ushakov said.

But Western leaders, including US President Donald Trump and France's Emmanuel Macron have pushed back against the idea of Putin trying to mediate the conflict amid his own Ukraine offensive.

"He actually offered to help mediate, I said: 'do me a favour, mediate your own'," Trump told reporters on Wednesday about Putin's efforts.

"Let's mediate Russia first, okay? I said, Vladimir, let's mediate Russia first, you can worry about this later."​

 

[Lulldapull]

We want US military action against Iran gents......lol

Its the best thing no?

because then all doubts about junk US threats get trashed no?

Come on no?

Get real no?

 

[Saif]

Iraq's top Shiite cleric warns against targeting Iran's leadership

Iraq's top Shiite Muslim cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani warned against targeting Iran's leadership and said that the Iran-Israel war could plunge the whole region into chaos. Sistani said in a statement Thursday that any targeting of Iran's "supreme religious and political leadership" would...

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Iraq's top Shiite cleric warns against targeting Iran's leadership

AFP Baghdad
Published: 19 Jun 2025, 19: 48

A man rides a motorcycle past a billboard depicting Iraq's top Shiite cleric, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, along a street in Baghdad on 19 June 2025. AFP

Iraq's top Shiite Muslim cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani warned against targeting Iran's leadership and said that the Iran-Israel war could plunge the whole region into chaos.

Sistani said in a statement Thursday that any targeting of Iran's "supreme religious and political leadership" would have "dire consequences on the region".

He warned that such action against the Shiite-led Islamic republic could spark "widespread chaos that would exacerbate the suffering of its (the region's) people and severely harm everyone's interests".

Sistani urged the international community to "make every effort to end this unjust war and find a peaceful solution" to concerns about Iran's nuclear programme.

Sistani, an Iranian, is the highest religious authority for millions of Shiite Muslims in Iraq and around the world, with the power to mobilise a huge following in Iraq.

Despite his Iranian roots, Sistani is seen as a key figure in Iraq's recent history and has been known for pushing back against Tehran's growing clout in the country.

Israel's Defence Minister Israel Katz said Thursday that Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei "can no longer be allowed to exist" after an Israeli hospital was hit during an Iranian missile attack.

Earlier this week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not rule out plans to assassinate Khamenei.

US President Donald Trump had earlier said his country would not kill Khamenei "for now", but demanded Tehran's "unconditional surrender" and warned he was weighing military action in the conflict.

Israel launched a surprise attack Friday targeting Iran's military and nuclear sites and killing top commanders and scientists, saying it is acting to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, an ambition Tehran denies.

The assault has prompted Iran to retaliate with barrages of missiles on Israel, with residential areas in both countries suffering too.

Iraq's National Security Adviser Qassem al-Araji urged the European Union on Thursday to exert pressure on Israel to stop the war, ahead of a meeting between Iran and European powers.

With warnings of all-out regional war intensifying, fears are growing over an intervention by Iran-backed Iraqi factions, mostly against American interests in the region.

'Destruction'

Akram al-Kaabi, the leader of the pro-Iran group, Al-Nujaba, warned the United States against going after Khamenei.

"If you harm a hair" of Khamenei's head "you and your allies will be under our fire," Kaabi said in a statement.

"No soldier or diplomat will be spared," Kaabi said.

"Every person holding your nationality in our region, as well as all your direct or indirect interest will be a legitimate target," he added.

The powerful faction Kataeb Hezbollah said that Trump "made a mistake" when he spoke of Khamenei and warned the US president of "unprecedented calamities and destruction" if he goes into war in support of Israel.

In Lebanon, Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah warned against threatening Khamenei, describing it as "an act of recklessness and foolishness" that would have "grave consequences".

It "constitutes an offence to hundreds of millions of believers", added the group, which suffered heavy blows in its latest confrontation with Israel last year.​