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[Saif]

Response to Iran’s attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options

Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran’s weekend missile and drone attack.

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Response to Iran's attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options
Considers hurting Iran without all-out war amid pressure from allies

Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran's weekend missile and drone attack.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu summoned his war cabinet for the second time in less than 24 hours, a government source said. Two senior officials signalled on Sunday that retaliation was not imminent and Israel would not act alone but the results of yesterday's talks were not yet known.

Israel's military chief of staff said the country would respond to the Iranian attack.

"This launch of so many missiles, cruise missiles, and drones into Israeli territory will be met with a response," Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi said, speaking from the Nevatim air force base in southern Israel, which sustained some damage in the attack.

Israel's Channel 12 news reported that Israel's war cabinet discussed a range of options at the second meeting to hurt Iran for its attack on Israel but without causing an all-out war.

Iran's attack - made in retaliation for a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Damascus - has increased fears of open warfare between Israel and Iran and heightened concerns that violence rooted in the Gaza war is spreading further in the region.

Wary of the dangers, President Joe Biden has told Netanyahu the United States will not take part in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran.

In his 25-minute call to Netanyahu on Sunday, Biden suggested that further response by Israel was "unnecessary".

Since the start of Israel's war in Gaza on Oct 7, clashes have erupted between Israel and Iran-aligned groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. Israel said four of its soldiers were wounded hundreds of metres inside Lebanese territory overnight.

"We're on the edge of the cliff and we have to move away from it," Josep Borrell, the European Union's foreign affairs chief, told Spanish radio station Onda Cero. "We have to step on the brakes and reverse gear."

French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Foreign Secretary David Cameron made similar appeals. Washington and United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres have also issued calls for restraint.

Countries including France, Belgium and Germany summoned the Iranian ambassadors. The French foreign ministry said France was working with its partners to de-escalate the situation.

Russia has refrained from criticising its ally Iran in public over the strikes but expressed concern about the risk of escalation on Monday and also called for restraint.

"Further escalation is in no one's interests," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Iran mounted the attack in response to a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Syria on April 1 that killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers, including two senior commanders.

Its attack, involving more than 300 missiles and drones, caused only modest damage in Israel and no deaths. Most were shot down by Israel's Iron Dome defence system and with help from the US, Britain, France and Jordan.

In Washington, Biden reiterated US commitment to Israel's security ahead of a meeting with Iraq's Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the Group of Seven major democracies were working on a package of coordinated measures against Iran.

"I spoke to my fellow G7 leaders, we are united in our condemnation of this attack," Sunak said in parliament.

Italy, which holds the rotating presidency of the G7, said it was open to new sanctions against individuals engaged against Israel.

In an interview with Reuters, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said new sanctions would need the backing of all the G7. He suggested any new measures would be focused on individuals rather than whole nations.

Asian shares fell and gold prices rose yesterday as risk sentiment took a hit. But oil prices dipped and Israel's shekel rose against the dollar after the comments by two senior Israeli officials - Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and centrist minister Benny Gantz - suggesting an Israeli response was not imminent.

Iran's attack has caused travel disruption, with at least a dozen airlines cancelling or rerouting flights, and Europe's aviation regulator reaffirming advice to airlines to use caution in Israeli and Iranian airspace.

Israel remained on high alert, but authorities lifted some emergency measures that had included a ban on some school activities and caps on large gatherings.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said Tehran had informed the United States that the attack on Israel would be limited and for self-defence, and that regional neighbours had been informed of the planned strikes 72 hours in advance.

White House national security spokesperson John Kirby yesterday told reporters that the United States did exchange messages with Iran but that there were never any messages regarding Iran's timeframe or targets for its weekend attack.

Kirby would not be drawn into explaining what the messages were about. He said that reports suggesting Iran tipped off the United States about its plans were "categorically false" and "malarkey."

Turkish, Jordanian and Iraqi officials said on Sunday that Iran gave wide notice days before its drone and missile attack on Israel.

In the first-ever attack against Israeli territory, Iran launched more than 300 drones and missiles towards Israel.

The attack included 170 drones and 30 cruise missiles, none of which entered Israeli territory, and at least 110 ballistic missiles, of which a small number reached Israel, military spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said in a televised statement.

At least nine countries were involved in the military escalation - with projectiles fired from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and downed by Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan.

The shortest distance from Iran to Israel is about 1,000km (620 miles) across Iraq, Syria and Jordan.

Since most of the projectiles came from relatively far away, Israel was able to send F-35 stealth fighters to intercept them. The IDF said that 25 of the 30 cruise missiles sent by Iran were shot down outside the country.

Two US officials told the BBC's US partner CBS news that five ballistic missiles evaded air defences and impacted Israeli territory.

Four of them "lightly hit" the Nevatim air force base in the Negev desert in southern Israel, said Israeli sources.

Of the 120 ballistic missiles fired by Iran, about half of them failed on launch or crashed mid-flight, one of the officials told CBS.

Experts said Israel may use this attack as an excuse to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. They also said Netanyahu has an incentive to keep hostilities going, as it fends off the collapse of his razor-thin coalition and new elections.

The attack has also for now distracted global attention from Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. Furthermore, the Iranian attack is also likely to dispel murmurs in the US Congress about curbing weapons supplies to Israel because of Gaza, they said.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Yes because of the price. As you probably already mentioned.

Yaar these turkish UAV's are great for use against da talibunny or balochi terror outfits. No doubt......but against India, they'd be shot down in under 2 minutes if they go anywhere near the Indo-pak borders. I know we are backward in modern military technology, and I seriously wonder how useful/ feasible is the acquisition of these turkish drones. Chinese drones to aik dum lunn hain. All them CH-4's n Wingh Lhoongs and whatnot.....total junk.....I mean do rupay waalay chappairr and they'd be shot down. We seriously need to quit buying Chinese weapons. Our Ghauri/ Ghaznavi/ Nasr/ Shahin, its all junk and you know it. Just like our shitful F-sola......Total junk......Do mintt nahi zinda rehna hamaray weapons nay against Israel. Our military is just a pushover.

 

[Old School]

Political scientist Marat Bashirov correctly spotted that Israel so long dominated... it was due to the presence of nuclear weapons, which "officially" Israel does not have... If Iran attacked Israel from its territory for the first time in history... means that Iran "officially" does not have nuclear weapons, but now it does. It is clear that, like Israel, Iran is now also practicing "nuclear ambiguity." Two strikes against two nuke powers in a short time- Pakistan and Israel. Iran would not do it without having nukes themselves.

 

[Lulldapull]

Political scientist Marat Bashirov correctly spotted that Israel so long dominated... it was due to the presence of nuclear weapons, which "officially" Israel does not have... If Iran attacked Israel from its territory for the first time in history... means that Iran "officially" does not have nuclear weapons, but now it does. It is clear that, like Israel, Iran is now also practicing "nuclear ambiguity."

Just like how da talibunny moved in a huge swarm of 20k around Kabul and da US fled in under a week, despite Biden sahb giving assurances dat 'all is whell'..... .....using dem tunnels Iran's goin be in Jerusalem in two days flat out!......with a 100k soldiers willing to fight to da death. Do mint main putloon utaar deni hae iranio nay. This whole thing is a joke along da lines of a big force like taking over greater Karachi for example..........Netanyahu sahb knows its game over. The only thing preventing dis is the threat of Christy X-tian apocalyptic Armageddon jihadists pouring in from da west in their tens of thousands as NATO/ ISAF to save their Maseeha/ Dajaal jhootta fairytale isstory mazhab......

 

[Old School]

Just like how da talibunny moved in a huge swarm of 20k around Kabul and da US fled in under a week, despite Biden sahb giving assurances dat 'all is whell'..... .....using dem tunnels Iran's goin be in Jerusalem in two days flat out!......with a 100k soldiers willing to fight to da death. Do mint main putloon utaar deni hae iranio nay. This whole thing is a joke along da lines of a big force like taking over greater Karachi for example..........Netanyahu sahb knows its game over. The only thing preventing dis is the threat of Christy X-tian apocalyptic Armageddon jihadists pouring in from da west in their tens of thousands as NATO/ ISAF to save their Maseeha/ Dajaal jhootta fairytale isstory mazhab......

It was the Iranians who masterminded the fall of Kabul of Ashraf Ghani together with the Taliban. Some fools in Karachi Lahore thought that it was Bajwa-IK which was naturally way out of their depth.

 

[Lulldapull]

It was the Iranians who masterminded the fall of Kabul of Ashraf Ghani together with the Taliban. Some fools in Karachi Lahore thought that it was Bajwa-IK which was naturally way out of their depth.

Exactly!......my only concern is just how many western jihadi X-Tian apocalyptic rattle snake dancers are willing to become da new ISAF in defending Israel. We must not discount these X-Tian Christy christian armageddonist jihadists.......They want their Solomons temple and await da dajaal and maseeha coming down from da heavens..... ....these are all jungli khotay......

 

[Old School]

Exactly!......my only concern is just how many western jihadi X-Tian apocalyptic rattle snake dancers are willing to become da new ISAF in defending Israel. We must not discount these X-Tian Christy christian armageddonist jihadists.......They want their Solomons temple and await da dajaal and maseeha coming down from da heavens.....

It is too late for those Messianic lunatics. Another thing to remember is that Afghans, in general, speak and understand Farsi/Dari. Why would they learn Urdu/Punjabi to entertain another gang of cabbies in Londonistan? So, the current attacks on Chinese engineers in Pakistan are most likely coming from people who want to get Iran engaged with Pakistan in hostility while forgetting the Israel front.

 

[Lulldapull]

Dunya di jhootti tareen qaum christy X-Tian apocalyptic armageddonists............bewquff jahl khotay......dis nonsense just a business folks......dont be fooled. Saari foundation armagedon ich banaye si......iss-toopid idiota's:

 

[Lulldapull]

It is too late for those Messianic lunatics. Another thing to remember is that Afghans, in general, speak and understand Farsi/Dari. Why would they learn Urdu/Punjabi to entertain another gang of cabbies in Londonistan? So, the current attacks on Chinese engineers in Pakistan are most likely coming from people who want to get Iran engaged with Pakistan in hostility while forgetting the Israel front.

Afghani is harami at his core. He’d do anything for a few dollars. Switch loyalties or religion on da whim. We know this truth. Al-Gurdish is also just like Afghani. Afghani, Al-Gurdish or even Baloch are capable of pimping out their dads to da highest bidders….no need to be ashamed…..sometimes this is life for a lot of dem folks because their ancestors fucked up long ago. It’s just sad.

 

[Lulldapull]

Israeli cabinet meeting…..how to respond to the destruction of two IDF bases by Irani strike:

 

[4MikeEcho]

Response to Iran’s attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options

Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran’s weekend missile and drone attack.

www.thedailystar.net

Response to Iran's attack: Israel war cabinet weighing options
Considers hurting Iran without all-out war amid pressure from allies

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Israel yesterday faced pressure from allies to show restraint and avoid an escalation of conflict in the Middle East as it considered how to respond to Iran's weekend missile and drone attack.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu summoned his war cabinet for the second time in less than 24 hours, a government source said. Two senior officials signalled on Sunday that retaliation was not imminent and Israel would not act alone but the results of yesterday's talks were not yet known.

Israel's military chief of staff said the country would respond to the Iranian attack.

"This launch of so many missiles, cruise missiles, and drones into Israeli territory will be met with a response," Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi said, speaking from the Nevatim air force base in southern Israel, which sustained some damage in the attack.

Israel's Channel 12 news reported that Israel's war cabinet discussed a range of options at the second meeting to hurt Iran for its attack on Israel but without causing an all-out war.

Iran's attack - made in retaliation for a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Damascus - has increased fears of open warfare between Israel and Iran and heightened concerns that violence rooted in the Gaza war is spreading further in the region.

Wary of the dangers, President Joe Biden has told Netanyahu the United States will not take part in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran.

In his 25-minute call to Netanyahu on Sunday, Biden suggested that further response by Israel was "unnecessary".

Since the start of Israel's war in Gaza on Oct 7, clashes have erupted between Israel and Iran-aligned groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq. Israel said four of its soldiers were wounded hundreds of metres inside Lebanese territory overnight.

"We're on the edge of the cliff and we have to move away from it," Josep Borrell, the European Union's foreign affairs chief, told Spanish radio station Onda Cero. "We have to step on the brakes and reverse gear."

French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz and British Foreign Secretary David Cameron made similar appeals. Washington and United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres have also issued calls for restraint.

Countries including France, Belgium and Germany summoned the Iranian ambassadors. The French foreign ministry said France was working with its partners to de-escalate the situation.

Russia has refrained from criticising its ally Iran in public over the strikes but expressed concern about the risk of escalation on Monday and also called for restraint.

"Further escalation is in no one's interests," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

Iran mounted the attack in response to a suspected Israeli airstrike on its embassy compound in Syria on April 1 that killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards officers, including two senior commanders.

Its attack, involving more than 300 missiles and drones, caused only modest damage in Israel and no deaths. Most were shot down by Israel's Iron Dome defence system and with help from the US, Britain, France and Jordan.

In Washington, Biden reiterated US commitment to Israel's security ahead of a meeting with Iraq's Prime Minister Mohammed Shia al-Sudani.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the Group of Seven major democracies were working on a package of coordinated measures against Iran.

"I spoke to my fellow G7 leaders, we are united in our condemnation of this attack," Sunak said in parliament.

Italy, which holds the rotating presidency of the G7, said it was open to new sanctions against individuals engaged against Israel.

In an interview with Reuters, Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani said new sanctions would need the backing of all the G7. He suggested any new measures would be focused on individuals rather than whole nations.

Asian shares fell and gold prices rose yesterday as risk sentiment took a hit. But oil prices dipped and Israel's shekel rose against the dollar after the comments by two senior Israeli officials - Defence Minister Yoav Gallant and centrist minister Benny Gantz - suggesting an Israeli response was not imminent.

Iran's attack has caused travel disruption, with at least a dozen airlines cancelling or rerouting flights, and Europe's aviation regulator reaffirming advice to airlines to use caution in Israeli and Iranian airspace.

Israel remained on high alert, but authorities lifted some emergency measures that had included a ban on some school activities and caps on large gatherings.

Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian said Tehran had informed the United States that the attack on Israel would be limited and for self-defence, and that regional neighbours had been informed of the planned strikes 72 hours in advance.

White House national security spokesperson John Kirby yesterday told reporters that the United States did exchange messages with Iran but that there were never any messages regarding Iran's timeframe or targets for its weekend attack.

Kirby would not be drawn into explaining what the messages were about. He said that reports suggesting Iran tipped off the United States about its plans were "categorically false" and "malarkey."

Turkish, Jordanian and Iraqi officials said on Sunday that Iran gave wide notice days before its drone and missile attack on Israel.

In the first-ever attack against Israeli territory, Iran launched more than 300 drones and missiles towards Israel.

The attack included 170 drones and 30 cruise missiles, none of which entered Israeli territory, and at least 110 ballistic missiles, of which a small number reached Israel, military spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari said in a televised statement.

At least nine countries were involved in the military escalation - with projectiles fired from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and downed by Israel, the US, the UK and Jordan.

The shortest distance from Iran to Israel is about 1,000km (620 miles) across Iraq, Syria and Jordan.

Since most of the projectiles came from relatively far away, Israel was able to send F-35 stealth fighters to intercept them. The IDF said that 25 of the 30 cruise missiles sent by Iran were shot down outside the country.

Two US officials told the BBC's US partner CBS news that five ballistic missiles evaded air defences and impacted Israeli territory.

Four of them "lightly hit" the Nevatim air force base in the Negev desert in southern Israel, said Israeli sources.

Of the 120 ballistic missiles fired by Iran, about half of them failed on launch or crashed mid-flight, one of the officials told CBS.

Experts said Israel may use this attack as an excuse to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. They also said Netanyahu has an incentive to keep hostilities going, as it fends off the collapse of his razor-thin coalition and new elections.

The attack has also for now distracted global attention from Israel's conduct of the war in Gaza. Furthermore, the Iranian attack is also likely to dispel murmurs in the US Congress about curbing weapons supplies to Israel because of Gaza, they said.​

So its Jericho 2 missiles (conventional warhead) against Iranian drone factories or random Revolutionary Guard sites. I doubt the nuclear facilities are in a single place waiting to be hit by a conventional weapon.

Israeli Air Force is not going to be of much use: 600 miles is its combat radius which will barely get it to the border. To get to the actual target it will need air to air over Iraq or Syria, and then F-35s show up with two precision bombs.

This is at a conventional stalemate. Its questionable if Israel has the number of ballistic Jerichos as Iran does. Its been busy maintaining a 500 combat jet air force , which is of minimal use against Iran. Iran had no money for the air force, so put it all in surface to surface projectiles

 

[ThunderCat]

Yaar these turkish UAV's are great for use against da talibunny or balochi terror outfits. No doubt......but against India, they'd be shot down in under 2 minutes if they go anywhere near the Indo-pak borders. I know we are backward in modern military technology, and I seriously wonder how useful/ feasible is the acquisition of these turkish drones. Chinese drones to aik dum lunn hain. All them CH-4's n Wingh Lhoongs and whatnot.....total junk.....I mean do rupay waalay chappairr and they'd be shot down. We seriously need to quit buying Chinese weapons. Our Ghauri/ Ghaznavi/ Nasr/ Shahin, its all junk and you know it. Just like our shitful F-sola......Total junk......Do mintt nahi zinda rehna hamaray weapons nay against Israel. Our military is just a pushover.

Drones are difficult to shoot down. Ask the Russkies in Ukraine. How much damage did Bayraktar drone do before they developed jamming countermeasures? The Russkies wanted the Bayraktar drone in their inventory and Turkiye & NATO said 'no.'

And look on the Russian side how badly these Iranian drones damages Ukraine. Ask the Bharatis how well their battery missiles (?) supplied to Armenia fared against Turkish Bayraktar drones.

So why am I compelled to believe Bharati military can take down these Bayraktar drones easily.

 

[Old School]

[h1]Iran's strike on Israel was much more successful than it seems. Here's why[/h1]Tehran's retaliatory attack may not have caused much destruction, but it was far from a failure
Do not jump to conclusions
Many experts were skeptical about Iran's strike and hastened to say that the retaliation did not live up to expectations. Given the clip thinking of most commentators, this reaction is hardly surprising. Their reasoning resembles a Hollywood blockbuster stuffed with special effects, where the end of the world and its miraculous salvation fit into 90-120 minutes, with a love scene in the middle. In real life, things are different. As Sun Tzu wrote in ancient times, to fight 100 battles and win 100 battles is not the height of skill. The best way to win is not to fight at all. This is Iran's strategy. Its strike against Israel was not so much a military response as a grandmaster's move in a big chess game. And the game is not over yet.
To achieve the first point, Iran had to carry out a direct strike without resorting exclusively to proxy forces – and that is indeed how it acted. Regarding the second point, even though most of the missiles and drones were indeed shot down, some managed to penetrate Israeli air space and hit military targets. The Chief of Staff of the Iranian Armed Forces, Mohammad Bagheri, said that the information center on the Israeli-Syrian border and Israel's Nevatim air base were hit. And finally, as to the third point – war didn't happen. This resembled the situation in 2020, when the Iranians hit US bases in Iraq in response to the assassination of General Soleimani.
However, it is still too early to speculate as to whether Iran's attack was a success or not. The big question now is how Israel will respond.

What Iran has accomplished
It's important to emphasize that Iran's operation carried more political than military weight. In this sense, it was carried out subtly and was a success. Obviously, the Iranians did not want to start a war which would involve the US, even though that is what Netanyahu wanted. In other words, Israel didn't manage to provoke Iran.

It is also obvious that the Islamic Republic possesses more powerful drones and missiles than those used in the attack on April 14. However, even the less advanced drones and missiles were able to penetrate Israeli air space and inflict economic damage, since Israel spent much more money on shooting down the missiles and drones than Iran spent on launching them.

Tehran has once again demonstrated that Israel is not invulnerable, and it is possible to attack it. As for the degree of inflicted damage, which some commentators were unsatisfied with, it largely depends on the type of missiles and drones used in the attack – and Iran has a lot of military equipment.

Finally, Iran's main achievement is that it has managed to confuse Israel in the same way that it was confused after the October 7 Hamas attack. The country has to respond. But how? Should Israel strike Iranian proxy forces? This is possible, but Israel does it all the time without much result. Should it hit Iran directly? But that would start a war which no one is prepared for, including the US.

Conclusion
The ball is now in Israel's court, and the country faces the same challenges that the Islamic Republic did after April 1. But will Israel be able to solve these challenges as efficiently?

It is noteworthy that IRGC Commander-in-Chief, Hossein Salami, said that from now on, if Israel attacks the interests of Iran and Iranian citizens, Tehran will strike it again.

This is an important statement. Essentially, the attack carried out by Iran on April 14 was not just a retaliatory strike, but established a new order. Iran demonstrated that it is ready to resort to new means of influence in a situation where words are not sufficient. It attacked Israel directly not in order to start a war, but to demonstrate what could happen if all other methods of pressure on Israel fail.

A new option has been put forward. Israel may be deprived of its most important advantage – absolute impunity, which until recently had been guaranteed by the US.

Iran's strike on Israel was much more successful than it seems. Here's why — RT World News

 

[Lulldapull]

Drones are difficult to shoot down. Ask the Russkies in Ukraine. How much damage did Bayraktar drone do before they developed jamming countermeasures? The Russkies wanted the Bayraktar drone in their inventory and Turkiye & NATO said 'no.'

And look on the Russian side how badly these Iranian drones damages Ukraine. Ask the Bharatis how well their battery missiles (?) supplied to Armenia fared against Turkish Bayraktar drones.

So why am I compelled to believe Bharati military can take down these Bayraktar drones easily.

yaar India did not and had not provided any weaponry during karabagh war. Those surveillance radars were provided by India after the war. Just late last year India sold a few Pinaka MBRL and Akash Sams and a few SPG (artillery) systems. Indians don't even have a drone product that they can sell even today. Turkish Bayraktar drones performed well in Syria at first, but then they got countered by the Syrian air defenses. In Ukraine their viability was far lower. All 60 or so sold to Ukraine have long been downed. Which brings us to the same issue that Bayraktar or reaper or Hermes or even Irani Gaza or Shahid 129 are good in low intensity wars, but against near peer rivals they will not survive. Just two days ago the Hezb in Lebanon downed a $5 million Hermes. The second one lost in this month alone. Houthi's and Iraqi PMU's have downed a good 3 or 4 Reapers just this year alone. Each one is $30 million. I believe UCAV's are great fighting against guerilla forces like talibunny and Balochi sardars or more recently Irani Mohajir-6 series successful use in Ethiopia against Tigray militia's or by one Sudani general against the other general in their current civil war. Chinese CH-4/ wing Loong is just junk. Houthi's and every man and his dog in Iraq has shot down over a hundred Chinese UCAV's over the last decade. Jordan put up its CH-4 fleet for sale but nobody bought them. Same with Iraqi's......Nobody in even Africa wants them at used prices.

 

[Saif]

Israel pledges response to Iran strikes

Israel’s armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran’s unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing...

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Israel pledges response to Iran strikes
Agence France-Presse . Jerusalem 17 April, 2024, 00:16

An Israeli army F-15 fighter jet flies over central Israel. | AFP photo

Israel's armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran's unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing wider regional conflict.

During six months of war between Israel and Iran-backed militant group Hamas in Gaza, Iran's proxies around the region have stepped up attacks on Israel and its allies, saying they are acting in support of Palestinians in Gaza.

Tensions were already high before Iran launched its first-ever assault on Israeli territory, firing hundreds of missiles and drones in retaliation for a deadly April 1 strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

'This launch of so many Iranian missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs into the territory of the State of Israel will be met with a response,' Israeli armed forces chief Lieutenant General Herzi Halevi said Monday, addressing troops at the Nevatim airbase, which was hit in Iran's Saturday night barrage.

The Israeli army has said the vast majority of the weapons were shot down — with the help of the United States and other allies — and the attack caused only minimal damage.

Western governments, including those that supported Israel in its defence, have warned against an escalation, and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with his war cabinet late Monday to discuss next steps, Israeli media reported.

Iran has previously said it would consider the matter 'concluded' unless Israel retaliated, and foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told his Chinese counterpart in a call on Tuesday that Iran was 'willing to exercise restraint' and had no intention of further escalating tensions.

China's top diplomat Wang Yi said it was 'believed that Iran can handle the situation well and spare the region further turmoil'.

The United States has repeatedly appealed to China — a close partner of Iran and a top buyer of its US-sanctioned oil — to use its influence over Tehran to manage tensions in the Middle East.

Israel on Monday issued its first official comment on the strike on the Iranian consulate in Syria that prompted Tehran's weekend attack.

'These were people who engaged in terrorism against the State of Israel,' Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said. 'There was not a single diplomat there as far as I know.'

The strike killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards, two of them generals.

Iran has portrayed its retaliatory missile and drone barrage as the first act in a tough new strategy.

The Iranian president's deputy chief of staff for political affairs, Mohammad Jamshidi, wrote on X that the 'era of strategic patience is over', and further targeting Iranian personnel and assets 'will be met with a direct and punishing response'.

The head of the UN's atomic watchdog revealed on Monday that Iran had temporarily closed its nuclear facilities over 'security considerations' after launching its retaliatory attack.

International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi said the facilities were expected to reopen on Monday but his inspectors would not be returning until Tuesday, or when 'we see that the situation is completely calm'.

US president Joe Biden has told Netanyahu that Washington would not offer military support for any retaliation against Iran, according to a senior US official.

British foreign secretary David Cameron and French president Emmanuel Macron were also among those urging restraint.

Secretary of state Antony Blinken said Washington did not 'seek escalation, but we'll continue to support the defence of Israel'.

US House speaker Mike Johnson announced that a vote on a fresh package of military aid for Israel could come as early as Friday. The package has been stalled in the House by right-wing members of Johnson's Republican party who oppose new military funding for Ukraine also included in the bill.

Following the weekend's attacks, Israel's military said it would not be distracted from the on-going war against Hamas in Gaza.

It said troops continued to operate in central Gaza, and tanks killed 'a number of terrorists identified advancing towards them'.

Fighter jets destroyed 'terror tunnels and military compounds where armed Hamas terrorists were located', the army said.

The Hamas attack of October 7 that triggered the war in Gaza resulted in the deaths of 1,170 people in Israel, mostly civilians, according to Israeli figures.

Israel's retaliatory offensive has killed at least 33,797 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory.

Israel estimates that 129 hostages seized during the October 7 attack, including 34 presumed dead, remain in Gaza.

At a White House meeting with Iraqi prime minister Mohamed Shia al-Sudani, Biden said: 'We're committed to a ceasefire that will bring the hostages home and prevent the conflict spreading beyond what it already has.'

Reflecting both the domestic pressure Biden is under, and global calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, pro-Palestinian demonstrators blocked San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge on Monday.

Israel's offensive against Hamas has triggered a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, with desperate shortages of food, medicines and drinking water.

The United Nations said it delivered a four-day supply of fuel to a bakery in northern Gaza on Sunday to enable it to resume operations in an area, which 'has recorded the highest levels of catastrophic hunger in the world'.​

 

[Lulldapull]

So its Jericho 2 missiles (conventional warhead) against Iranian drone factories or random Revolutionary Guard sites. I doubt the nuclear facilities are in a single place waiting to be hit by a conventional weapon.

Israeli Air Force is not going to be of much use: 600 miles is its combat radius which will barely get it to the border. To get to the actual target it will need air to air over Iraq or Syria, and then F-35s show up with two precision bombs.

This is at a conventional stalemate. Its questionable if Israel has the number of ballistic Jerichos as Iran does. Its been busy maintaining a 500 combat jet air force , which is of minimal use against Iran. Iran had no money for the air force, so put it all in surface to surface projectiles

Isra-heel is in serious trouble, and we all know it too. Iran's a huge target for da west and not just Isra-heel aleh salam since there are thousands of Irani military sites, most important ones buried deep in da mountains. Western military power has been exposed as a joke. Forget Iran or Israel, that's not even a contest anymore for us to ponder over. Irani's are slick and they know exactly what deys doin.......hamara kya banay ga bhai? We da ghareeb struggling to make ends meet/ survive against all odds with a corrupt military ruling over us..... and our country's precarious position in da evolving global order? We are so vulnerable no? What we need to do is to get underground oil n gas pipelines from Irani turani and safeguard our people when da shiit hits da fan with cheap irani oil n gas in secret. Saanu apna sochna chaiye like we don't get caught out in da storm and millions of our ghareeb die due to global geo-politics.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Isra-heel is in serious trouble, and we all know it too. Iran's a huge target for da west and not just Isra-heel aleh salam since there are thousands of Irani military sites, most important ones buried deep in da mountains. Western military power has been exposed as a joke. Forget Iran or Israel, that's not even a contest anymore for us to ponder over. Irani's are slick and they know exactly what deys doin.......hamara kya banay ga bhai? We da ghareeb struggling to make ends meet/ survive against all odds with a corrupt military ruling over us..... and our country's precarious position in da evolving global order? We are so vulnerable no? What we need to do is to get underground oil n gas pipelines from Irani turani and safeguard our people when da shiit hits da fan with cheap irani oil n gas in secret. Saanu apna sochna chaiye like we don't get caught out in da storm and millions of our ghareeb die due to global geo-politics.

Unless Iran lobbed its primitive ballistic missiles, and the US and Israel KNOW that the next generation of missiles that Iran has were not used, then this would be considered serious trouble.

But if the best Iran has in terms of ballistic missiles were used and only a few of them landed on one of the bases, I think militarily Israel has nothing to worry about. I discounted the use of drones as they are nothing but nusance value (here and in Ukraine).

Israel's status as a western country thats a peaceful democracy (its peaceful by causing havoc around it) and all the FDI was flowing in to the country is certainly at risk. Not as many foreign citizens will go in, not as many US companies will have staff there, and possibly Jews from Europe or US that have a romantic image of being in their country will reconsider.

But I would not count that as trouble.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Israel pledges response to Iran strikes

Israel’s armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran’s unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing...

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Israel pledges response to Iran strikes
Agence France-Presse . Jerusalem 17 April, 2024, 00:16

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An Israeli army F-15 fighter jet flies over central Israel. | AFP photo

Israel's armed forces chief has vowed to respond to Iran's unprecedented attack against the country, even after appeals for restraint poured in from world leaders fearing wider regional conflict.

During six months of war between Israel and Iran-backed militant group Hamas in Gaza, Iran's proxies around the region have stepped up attacks on Israel and its allies, saying they are acting in support of Palestinians in Gaza.

Tensions were already high before Iran launched its first-ever assault on Israeli territory, firing hundreds of missiles and drones in retaliation for a deadly April 1 strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

'This launch of so many Iranian missiles, cruise missiles, and UAVs into the territory of the State of Israel will be met with a response,' Israeli armed forces chief Lieutenant General Herzi Halevi said Monday, addressing troops at the Nevatim airbase, which was hit in Iran's Saturday night barrage.

The Israeli army has said the vast majority of the weapons were shot down — with the help of the United States and other allies — and the attack caused only minimal damage.

Western governments, including those that supported Israel in its defence, have warned against an escalation, and prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu met with his war cabinet late Monday to discuss next steps, Israeli media reported.

Iran has previously said it would consider the matter 'concluded' unless Israel retaliated, and foreign minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian told his Chinese counterpart in a call on Tuesday that Iran was 'willing to exercise restraint' and had no intention of further escalating tensions.

China's top diplomat Wang Yi said it was 'believed that Iran can handle the situation well and spare the region further turmoil'.

The United States has repeatedly appealed to China — a close partner of Iran and a top buyer of its US-sanctioned oil — to use its influence over Tehran to manage tensions in the Middle East.

Israel on Monday issued its first official comment on the strike on the Iranian consulate in Syria that prompted Tehran's weekend attack.

'These were people who engaged in terrorism against the State of Israel,' Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said. 'There was not a single diplomat there as far as I know.'

The strike killed seven Iranian Revolutionary Guards, two of them generals.

Iran has portrayed its retaliatory missile and drone barrage as the first act in a tough new strategy.

The Iranian president's deputy chief of staff for political affairs, Mohammad Jamshidi, wrote on X that the 'era of strategic patience is over', and further targeting Iranian personnel and assets 'will be met with a direct and punishing response'.

The head of the UN's atomic watchdog revealed on Monday that Iran had temporarily closed its nuclear facilities over 'security considerations' after launching its retaliatory attack.

International Atomic Energy Agency chief Rafael Grossi said the facilities were expected to reopen on Monday but his inspectors would not be returning until Tuesday, or when 'we see that the situation is completely calm'.

US president Joe Biden has told Netanyahu that Washington would not offer military support for any retaliation against Iran, according to a senior US official.

British foreign secretary David Cameron and French president Emmanuel Macron were also among those urging restraint.

Secretary of state Antony Blinken said Washington did not 'seek escalation, but we'll continue to support the defence of Israel'.

US House speaker Mike Johnson announced that a vote on a fresh package of military aid for Israel could come as early as Friday. The package has been stalled in the House by right-wing members of Johnson's Republican party who oppose new military funding for Ukraine also included in the bill.

Following the weekend's attacks, Israel's military said it would not be distracted from the on-going war against Hamas in Gaza.

It said troops continued to operate in central Gaza, and tanks killed 'a number of terrorists identified advancing towards them'.

Fighter jets destroyed 'terror tunnels and military compounds where armed Hamas terrorists were located', the army said.

The Hamas attack of October 7 that triggered the war in Gaza resulted in the deaths of 1,170 people in Israel, mostly civilians, according to Israeli figures.

Israel's retaliatory offensive has killed at least 33,797 people in Gaza, mostly women and children, according to the health ministry in the Hamas-run territory.

Israel estimates that 129 hostages seized during the October 7 attack, including 34 presumed dead, remain in Gaza.

At a White House meeting with Iraqi prime minister Mohamed Shia al-Sudani, Biden said: 'We're committed to a ceasefire that will bring the hostages home and prevent the conflict spreading beyond what it already has.'

Reflecting both the domestic pressure Biden is under, and global calls for a ceasefire in Gaza, pro-Palestinian demonstrators blocked San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge on Monday.

Israel's offensive against Hamas has triggered a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, with desperate shortages of food, medicines and drinking water.

The United Nations said it delivered a four-day supply of fuel to a bakery in northern Gaza on Sunday to enable it to resume operations in an area, which 'has recorded the highest levels of catastrophic hunger in the world'.​

Israel probably has a trick up its sleeve, but its default approach that involves projecting air power over a defenseless neighbor will not be used here because it won't have any effect.

No way that a traditional airstrike works.

So either Israel goes Jericho and then be prepared for a missile war against Iran (who fought a similar Scud vs. Scud battle across several years in the 80s) where Iran is a bigger country and can absorb the impact without Israel's sophisticated defenses.

Or Israel goes asymmetric with sabotage, assassination, or cyber attack.

 

[Old School]

A member of the Israeli military stands alongside one of the Iranian missiles shot down by Israel and its allies over the weekend.

 

[Lulldapull]

Unless Iran lobbed its primitive ballistic missiles, and the US and Israel KNOW that the next generation of missiles that Iran has were not used, then this would be considered serious trouble.

But if the best Iran has in terms of ballistic missiles were used and only a few of them landed on one of the bases, I think militarily Israel has nothing to worry about. I discounted the use of drones as they are nothing but nusance value (here and in Ukraine).

Israel's status as a western country thats a peaceful democracy (its peaceful by causing havoc around it) and all the FDI was flowing in to the country is certainly at risk. Not as many foreign citizens will go in, not as many US companies will have staff there, and possibly Jews from Europe or US that have a romantic image of being in their country will reconsider.

But I would not count that as trouble.

If Iran fired 600 instead of the 300 that it did, of whatever category, then ‘Sophisticated’ defenses will all get exhausted/overwhelmed. And if Irans toady matched that number with its bottle rockets made from sugar/ Syrup and fertilizer, then da Zionist dream would get shattered in a jiffy. The threat from Iran now is that we won’t fire 300 or 400, but we’ll fire 10,000 and then it’s all over. And we can keep doing it from a distance until you run off to Poland or New Jersey or Brooklyn…

 

[Lulldapull]

17 total ballistic missile hits have been captured on people’s cell phones. We know for a fact how accurate Irani missiles are from past events. Israel is panicking and so is da west on wtf to do now:

 

[ThunderCat]

yaar India did not and had not provided any weaponry during karabagh war. Those surveillance radars were provided by India after the war. Just late last year India sold a few Pinaka MBRL and Akash Sams and a few SPG (artillery) systems. Indians don't even have a drone product that they can sell even today. Turkish Bayraktar drones performed well in Syria at first, but then they got countered by the Syrian air defenses. In Ukraine their viability was far lower. All 60 or so sold to Ukraine have long been downed. Which brings us to the same issue that Bayraktar or reaper or Hermes or even Irani Gaza or Shahid 129 are good in low intensity wars, but against near peer rivals they will not survive. Just two days ago the Hezb in Lebanon downed a $5 million Hermes. The second one lost in this month alone. Houthi's and Iraqi PMU's have downed a good 3 or 4 Reapers just this year alone. Each one is $30 million. I believe UCAV's are great fighting against guerilla forces like talibunny and Balochi sardars or more recently Irani Mohajir-6 series successful use in Ethiopia against Tigray militia's or by one Sudani general against the other general in their current civil war. Chinese CH-4/ wing Loong is just junk. Houthi's and every man and his dog in Iraq has shot down over a hundred Chinese UCAV's over the last decade. Jordan put up its CH-4 fleet for sale but nobody bought them. Same with Iraqi's......Nobody in even Africa wants them at used prices.

Ok but how good did Bayraktar fare against Russians in Ukraine? Their S- series missiles only shot down a handful of them. Even before the Ukraine war, I read rumors the Russians had an interest in buying Bayraktar.

Now it's a different scenario with better drone jamming countermeasures in place. But prior to that the Russians suffered heavy losses because of this killer drone, did it not?

And how reliable was the Iranian Shaheed & Muhajir drones in Ukraine, bypassing Ukrainian defenses and causing devastation there before they were being jammed.

I'd argue these drones are much more useful against military battalions than a few guerrilla's although it works against them too.

 

[Lulldapull]

Ok but how good did Bayraktar fare against Russians in Ukraine? Their S- series missiles only shot down a handful of them. Even before the Ukraine war, I read rumors the Russians had an interest in buying Bayraktar.

Now it's a different scenario with better drone jamming countermeasures in place. But prior to that the Russians suffered heavy losses because of this killer drone, did it not?

And how reliable was the Iranian Shaheed & Muhajir drones in Ukraine, bypassing Ukrainian defenses and causing devastation there before they were being jammed.

I'd argue these drones are much more useful against military battalions than a few guerrilla's although it works against them too.

The lids been blown open yaar….russian Irani turani send dozens of these shahid/ lancet/ meraj kamikaze drones flying in from multiple directions heading straight for their intended targets…they appear on Ukrainian/ Sawdi/ Israeli radar screens and these chutiye shiit their pants in panic….. then dozens of cruise missiles like Hoveza/ Kh-55/ Kh101 and even Kh-22 from older stocks scream on in at 500mph…..heading toward different targets. Then these Russian and Irani launch their wild aces like iskundurr or Fateh or Emad or Shahabs on the real targets totally somewhere else…..……araam say bhund lugga detay hain and intended targets get totally destroyed. Bewquff Sawdi/ Israeli/ Ukrainian keep thinking place X is being targeted, but generally its place Y, 1000 miles away…..…Dis da real game of deception now. And let me tell you, Ef-sola or Ef-thurrtty Fav becoming junkyard scrap with each passing day. Ye haqeeqat hae ab. Warfare has radically changed.

 

[ThunderCat]

The lids been blown open yaar….russian Irani turani send dozens of these shahid/ lancet/ meraj kamikaze drones flying in from multiple directions heading straight for their intended targets…they appear on Ukrainian/ Sawdi/ Israeli radar screens and these chutiye shiit their pants in panic….. then dozens of cruise missiles like Hoveza/ Kh-55/ Kh101 and even Kh-22 from older stocks scream on in at 500mph…..heading toward different targets. Then these Russian and Irani launch their wild aces like iskundurr or Fateh or Emad or Shahabs on the real targets totally somewhere else…..……araam say bhund lugga detay hain and intended targets get totally destroyed. Bewquff Sawdi/ Israeli/ Ukrainian keep thinking place X is being targeted, but generally its place Y, 1000 miles away…..…Dis da real game of deception now. And let me tell you, Ef-sola or Ef-thurrtty Fav becoming junkyard scrap with each passing day. Ye haqeeqat hae ab. Warfare has radically changed.

Kamakazi drones don't seem to be effective for longer targets like Iran to Israel, but for shorter targets like the Russian Federation to Ukraine. Shorter targets also means flying lower altitude to evade radar.

It's worked in the past.

 

[Lulldapull]

Kamakazi drones don't seem to be effective for longer targets like Iran to Israel, but for shorter targets like the Russian Federation to Ukraine. Shorter targets also means flying lower altitude to evade radar.

It's worked in the past.

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

 

[ThunderCat]

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

Israel has sufficient ballistic missiles and chemical weapons to smash Iran's infrastructure to the ground. Not to mention state-of-the-art drones and planes. Iran has not gotten a proper state of Israeli firepower.

A country that has attacked Pakistan several times does not have my favor, the latest being in January. The Ayatollah regime must fall.

 

[4MikeEcho]

The kamikaze drones work great if Iran doesn’t announce dat they are coming at this exact time and from dat direction. Shahid-136 body is fiber glass so basically radio transparent. This attack on Israel was a huge exercise in deception and it worked beautifully. Shahid drones drew away all the hundreds of IDF missiles when the Israelis panicked and the cruise missiles drew other defenses, and the ballistic missiles slipped in right thru and destroyed their high value targets. I believe irani’s pulled da same feat when they demolished the Abqaiq/ Khurais oilfield complex which was very heavily defended by Pac2/3’s THAAD, Cayote and off shore Aegis systems. Iran launched dozens of drones, cruise missiles and Ballistic missiles from different locations in Syria, Iraq, Iran and Yemen. It is also the tactics these IRGC use combining all these different weapons and they end up overwhelming/ exhausting/ saturating the defenses. I believe if Iran launches a full on attack with a couple thousand drones/cruise/ ballistic missiles And instructs it’s hundreds of thousands of toady to do it in concert, Isra-heel will totally collapse.

you more bold about Iran's capabilities than even Iranians themselves. Its easy for us to be here on keyboard and have a glorified view of Iranian capability knowing that we are not going to be in the firing line of any retaliation or economic embargo.

Most of the drones were shotdown before they entered Israeli airspace and vast majority by ariborne platforms.

While Iran did announce and signal days ahead to make sure commercial traffic over Iraq or Iran was clear (they shot down one of their own airliners a few years ago), even without that, there was enough signal intelligence and satellite borne sensors to know about the massive influx. In fact by knowing the inbound motorcycle drones, Israelis knew exactly when the ballistic missiles were going to strike.

We hear the number 1-2% of ballistic missiles and Iranians have not said anything to enhance that number.

So my money is on the fact that Iranians have better ballistic weapons that Israelis know about but did not use. Otherwise this exercise was shear stupidity. Iran would have been better off blowing up an Israeli embassy in Sao Paolo

 

[4MikeEcho]

Interesting analysis of Iran's defensive weapons.

I think Iran's best defenses are: 1. Its a big country 2. Its assets are dispersed 3. Non existent air force so nothing important to destroy 4. Its distance from Israel through hostile territory 5. Most importantly people are tough . The prior generation saw 8 years of Scud wars. 6. Ability to retaliate

Any analysis on this sort of equipment is militarily insignificant. This a war of sensor/countermeasure/faster OODA loop that favors training and faster signal processing/micro chips.

In this regard, NATO has excelled at again and again. In Iraq, twice. In Serbia/Kosovo, and Israel repeatedly humiliates Syria by flying over it as it wishes.

These defensive weapons are show pieces. They will get neutralized by jamming.

How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?

Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.

www.aljazeera.com

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[H1]How well could Iran defend itself against a potential Israeli attack?[/H1]
Iran operates a wide variety of missile defence batteries at different ranges that aim to defend against aerial strikes.

Iran's Defence Minister Brigadier General Mohammad-Reza Ashtiani walks near an Iranian missile during an unveiling ceremony in Tehran, Iran, in this picture obtained on February 17, 2024 [Handout: Ministry of Defence and Armed Forces Logistics via Reuters]
By Maziar Motamedi
Published On 17 Apr 202417 Apr 2024


Tehran, Iran – Israel has pledged to "exact a price" from Iran in response to missile and drone attacks launched by Tehran in retaliation to the deadly bombing of its consulate in Syria at the beginning of this month.


Israel's war cabinet has met several times to debate a course of action to complement a diplomatic push against Iran since Saturday's unprecedented direct attacks on Israel, with Israeli army chief of staff Herzi Halevi saying a military response is certain.

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Iranian President Raisi threatened a "massive and harsh response" on Wednesday if Israel decides to launch a direct military assault on Iranian soil. So how effectively can Iran defend itself if such an attack occurs?


[H2]Relying on local defensive arms[/H2]

For decades, Iran has increasingly insisted on relying on its local capabilities when it comes to its economy, but a similar push can also be seen in its military sector.


Much of that sentiment is rooted in Iran's eight years of war with neighbouring Iraq, which invaded Iran in 1980 under former ruler Saddam Hussein. Baghdad was militarily backed by a multitude of foreign powers, including the United States.


Hampered by decades of sanctions and embargos, Iran's air superiority is still heavily challenged, with some of its fighter jets and equipment, including US-made F-4 and F-5 fighter jets, dating back to before the country's 1979 revolution – which overthrew the West-backed monarchy of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.


Iran now mostly operates Russian Sukhoi and MiG fighter jets that date back to the Soviet era. The Iranian air force has been building its own jets too, like the Saeqeh and Kowsar which are based on US designs, but they are not believed to be a match for some of the top fighter jets like the F-35s that Israel employs in large numbers.


A delivery of two dozen Russian-made Su-35 fighter jets, negotiations for which have been ongoing for some time, could significantly revitalise the Iranian air force, but it would not eliminate the need for robust air defence batteries.


[H2]Long-range missile batteries[/H2]

Iran has tried to compensate for its ageing domestic fighter jets with ambitious missile programmes. It has particularly focused on improving its air defence systems – in addition to burying some of its airbases, missile depots and nuclear facilities deep in the mountains to protect them against bunker buster munitions given to Israel by the US. Israel has extensively used the US-supplied bunker buster bombs during its six months of war on Gaza.


The longest-range missile defence system operated by Iran is the locally-developed Bavar-373, which entered service in 2019 after a decade of development and testing, and has been significantly improved since.

 

[Lulldapull]

Israel has sufficient ballistic missiles and chemical weapons to smash Iran's infrastructure to the ground. Not to mention state-of-the-art drones and planes. Iran has not gotten a proper state of Israeli firepower.

A country that has attacked Pakistan several times does not have my favor, the latest being in January. The Ayatollah regime must fall.

Bhai that IDF Air/ Drone power hasn't been able to do much over the last few decades. Recently USN/ RAF airstrikes have done nothing against the Iran backed Houthi's. Sawdi Judea faced defeat and bankruptcy too in Yemen against Iran backed Houthi's no? In Afghanistan 300k coalition/ ISAF/ NATO couldn't defeat the talibunnies. In the end only 20k walked into Kabul without firing a single shot, just like the NVA rolling into Saigon in 1975. Hezb has killed/ injured more than 500 IDF troops in the last 6 months. Iran's used Hamas k jhaggay to kill/ injure another 2000+ Israeli's no? Nuke deterrents have lost their deterrent. Israel is now wide open for an Iranian intervention and eventual dismantling. Iran's opened da gates to the global jihadists to go n fight the IDF. 8 million Israeli's can't fight 200 million incensed Shia, pretty obvious. Iran's already intimidated Israel long ago. As far as we are concerned? we ain't got no involvement in the ME conflict.

 

[ThunderCat]

Bhai that IDF Air/ Drone power hasn't been able to do much over the last few decades. Recently USN/ RAF airstrikes have done nothing against the Iran backed Houthi's. Sawdi Judea faced defeat and bankruptcy too in Yemen against Iran backed Houthi's no? In Afghanistan 300k coalition/ ISAF/ NATO couldn't defeat the talibunnies. In the end only 20k walked into Kabul without firing a single shot, just like the NVA rolling into Saigon in 1975. Hezb has killed/ injured more than 500 IDF troops in the last 6 months. Iran's used Hamas k jhaggay to kill/ injure another 2000+ Israeli's no? Nuke deterrents have lost their deterrent. Israel is now wide open for an Iranian intervention and eventual dismantling. Iran's opened da gates to the global jihadists to go n fight the IDF. 8 million Israeli's can't fight 200 million incensed Shia, pretty obvious. Iran's already intimidated Israel long ago. As far as we are concerned? we ain't got no involvement in the ME conflict.

We can easily get dragged into it. They already recruit our mercenaries. Their governments have a nasty influence over our country & people.

 

[Old School]

We can easily get dragged into it. They already recruit our mercenaries. Their governments have a nasty influence over our country & people.

In addition, there is Saudi-Indian Salafist/Wahhabi/Deobandi influence, and they are the most powerful lobby with more capability to cause damage. There is, however, no organic Pakistani influence in Pakistan, which is regrettable.

 

[Saif]

Israel-Iran: Hell on earth

The US’ need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

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Israel-Iran: Hell on earth
Israel can injure Iran, but it cannot beat Iran. It would even be a tough shot for the US.

Illustration: Salman Sakib Shahryar

Iran's retaliatory attacks in the weekend on Israeli soil, had brought the world to a standstill, as Israel's allies rushed to take down hundreds of drones and missiles. It was the US, not Israel, that shot down most of Iran's drones; the Pentagon coordinated a multinational region-wide defense from northern Iraq to the southern Persian gulf. Had merely one missile gotten through to kill Israelis, the war clouds darkening the skies over the Middle East would've caused a black-out in the region. While parallels with World War I may seem contrived, Iran's attacks on Israel have shifted the strategic reality in the region.

The media is filled with debates about whether the attack was a success or a failure, and who won and who lost. Iran managed to hit two military targets on the ground in Israel, including Nevatim Air Base. Scott Ritter, a former United Nations Special Commission (UNSC) inspector analysing the attack, has said, "There is no other place on the planet, not the White House, not the Kremlin, that has the level and density of sophisticated anti-ballistic missiles than Nevatim Air Field. My understanding is that Iran launched 7 missiles, 2 of them were probably shot down but 5 hit despite all of this." He further added, "This should prove to everybody, Israeli and American alike, that there is no defense against Iranian missiles."

While assessing the historic attack, Iran's domestic political factors must also be factored into the geopolitical equation. Recently, there has been a resurgence of Shia supremacists in Iran such as the Paydari Front, similar to the Zionists sitting in the Israeli cabinet. The head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Major General Hossein Salami, has also said the regime is now moving away from "strategic patience," and working with "a new equation." It is unclear whether Iran would risk a full-blown costly war, and whether their bellicose rhetoric will be another warning, steering clear of casualties, like their salvo of hundreds of drones was. But an emotional Israel that crosses the line has the potential to unleash catastrophe.

On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it. The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both. — Ramisa Rob

Israel's allies are now scrambling, working around the clock, to convince Israel to restrain after cleaning up Israel's mess all weekend. The road ahead, that we are looking at, could potentially lead to a war that every world power is looking to avoid, but one that could be inevitable if there is any miscalculation on either side testing the tolerance of the other. To note: when we speak about Israel's response, we must also factor in the US fully, and the rest of the West to an extent. And when we speak about Iran, we are also talking about Russia—which exports Iran's Shahed drones and has used it to great effect in Ukraine—and consider China, as demonstrated by Iran's BRICS membership last year.

Iran's retaliation to Israel's deadly attack on its Consulate shares an eerie similarity to its response to the assassination of its top general, Qassim Soleimani, in 2020, by the US. Iran attacked two US air bases in Iraq, avoiding casualties, and received no further retaliation from the US. While the optics of Iran's attacks on Israel seem disproportionate, its actual toll with one serious injury, compared to 110 injured troops in 2020 is far less. The Western media at the time, took to rebuking Trump for escalating tensions with Iran; New York Times published reports that loudly declared, "Seven days in January: How Trump Pushed US and Iran to the Brink of War." On Tuesday, April 17, a leaked memo from the NYT, obtained by The Intercept, shows that the paper's editors and deputies handed out directives to their journalists, restricting them to use words like "genocide," and "ethnic cleansing," and avoid using the phrase "occupied land" when describing Palestinian land. The pandora box of double standards of the credible, Pulitzer Prize-winning US media outlets has cracked open.

Other liberal outlets—or perhaps it's more accurate to describe them now as pro-Biden or pro-Dem—such as Vox, ran analyses in 2020, interviewed defence experts, to establish that a war between the US and Iran would look like "hell on earth." Where are those punchy articles now though? Where's the rebuke for Netanyahu? The same Vox, at the aftermath of an edge of the cliff situation provoked by Netanyahu's government, has concluded, "Israel beat Iran—for now."

One thing the US media surely gets right is that Donald Trump is most definitely a threat to US national security; he may be saying this Iran attack would not have happened under his leadership but he loves to lie, and his track record contradicts the claims. But it's also important to learn from the history of the Trump-Iran face-off in January 2020, and understand that the restraint from the US to not further retaliate avoided what could've been "hell on earth." Netanyahu and the Israeli government which provoked this paradigm shift from a shadow war to a direct conflict, for the worse, is a grave threat to US national security. Iran sent a message in their attacks on Israel: "Control." The message was clearly intended to the US too, because Tehran's long-held strategic aim has been to end the US presence in a region it seeks to dominate. The US' backing of Israel in its genocide in Gaza has created the perfect excuse for Iran to advance that strategy, and it shows.

According to analysts, Netanyahu has two options that serve his political interest, that of perpetual war as the minute the war ends in Gaza, so does his political career. Former Israeli Ehud Olmert from 2006-2009, openly admitted to Mehedi Hasan on Zeteo, that Netanyahu has financed Hamas, so his war-mongering tendencies are uncontested at this point. On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it. The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both.

Biden's confusing actions in the aftermath of the Iran attacks reflect the tremendous pressure he is under. After announcing that the US would not participate in any counteroffensive against Iran, later on Sunday, Biden pushed the House of Representatives and Senators to pass additional wartime funding and military aid to Israel. The Biden administration is in a geopolitical mess created by Israel, as well as its own unstrategic, deplorable sponsorship of Israel's genocide on Gaza—the root of this mess. The US is supposedly trying to create a balancing act, to tame its division with Iran while tepidly trying to control Israel, which is way out of control.

There are many dilemmas hovering over Washington, and an intact foreign policy strategy that benefits their national interests, hangs on a thin thread. On one hand, Biden has an election to win soon, and further backing Israel's genocide in Gaza would highly increase the chances of his lengthy political tenure ending with the label "Genocide Joe." On the other hand, the US directly engaging in Israel's war with Iran would be disastrous, both geopolitically and strategically. Economically, it would cause a hike in oil prices and lead to a further global economic downturn. If the US chooses to isolate Israel, it would risk a permanent divorce with its biggest ally. And if the US chooses to back Israel's conflagration with Iran, it runs the risk of isolating itself with Western democracies who might pursue sensible diplomatic outreach to Iran to not entangle themselves in a costly and deadly war.

Biden's best option is to engage in dialogue with Tehran. And that includes a compromise with Israel. Either way, Biden loses. Iran will not capitulate from retaliation; it will only accelerate the current spiral. This is all leaving morality aside. The best course of action is what Biden should've done a long time ago: demanded a halt in Israel's bombardment in Gaza, and forced Israel to normalise with Arab nations with whom it shares animosity against Iran, and recognise Palestinian statehood. But that ship has sailed far out of reach. In a way, Israel's Netanyahu has been a gift for Iran, and the Biden Administration's biggest mistake was handing out a carte blanche to Israel—which does not care about the US—and underestimating the political games of the ungrateful and dangerous Benjamin Netanyahu. Further US military aid to Israel now, will undoubtedly aggravate the genocide in Gaza and even give ammunition to Israel to poke Iran more and find an excuse to divert the war to a wider conflict. Giving Israel weapons right now will be another big mistake by Biden. Does one give guns to serial killers and expect them to be peaceful with them?

Aside from Israel's response to Iran directly, the tensions brewing between Israel and Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Lebanon, which is also the most strongly armed non-state actor, with 150,000 missiles and rockets, is another front that has the potential to erupt into a wider war between Iran and Israel. After more than six months of near-daily attacks between the armed group and Israel, on Monday, April 15, Hezbollah for the first time, claimed responsibility for detonating planted explosives when a group of Israeli soldiers crossed into Lebanon. Four Israeli soldiers have reportedly been injured.

Militarily, Israel can severely injure Iran, particularly with its world's most potent Air Force, but it cannot necessarily "beat" Iran in war. Aside from Iran's vast network of proxies, it also has the numbers: more than half a million active-duty military personnel, while Israel maintains a standing army of 170,000 active personnel, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies' 2024 Military Balance report. Iran has built a long-range air defense system, Bavar-373. Its claimed capabilities are reportedly on par or better than those of the Russian S-300 or the US Patriot.

In the naval front, Iran has armed its recent Revolutionary Guards' navy with drones and its 600 mile range missiles. Russia, which possessed few drones at the start of its invasion of Ukraine, began using two types of Iran-made Shahed drones: the long-ranging Shahed-131 and Shahed-136. Furthermore, Iran's strengthening ties with Russia give the secretive nation a significant military edge and render it a more formidable enemy to defeat as Israeli leaders debate military retaliation, experts say. According to a recent report by the Washington Post, a delegation of Iranian officials visited a Russian factory last March, which has "anti-aircraft batteries—including Russia's S-400, which analysts assess to be capable of detecting and destroying stealth fighter jets flown by Israel and the United States."

Though Israel has significant missile stockpiles, Iran possesses the "largest and most diverse missile arsenal in the Middle East," according to the CSIS Missile Defense Project. The nation's longest-range platforms are ballistic missiles—Sejjil, Ghadr and Khorramshahr—which can reach targets to around 1,240 miles, including all of Israel.

And then there's the question of Iran's nuclear programme, which Iran denies while also arguing that it has the right to access "civil" nuclear energy. According to a report on US foreign policy on Iran, published this January by Congressional Report Service, Iran "reportedly increased its nuclear activities in the context of heightened regional tensions in late 2023." Regardless of whether the nation has a covert fortress of a nuclear programme, Iran's close ties with Russia, and China—with whom the US is entangled in a Cold War—provide the nation with heavyweight backers. An eruption of the conflict has the possibility to unite Russia and China on the Iran axis with their common interest to destroy US hegemony. The US' need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

Even for the US, engaging in a war with Iran would exhaust its resources. Pentagon officials in 2019, estimated that a strategy to destroy Iranian nuclear weapon facilities would require a minimum of 120,000 troops throughout the Middle East. The US would not be able to overwhelm the Iranian military capacity with a strategy reliant on air and naval power, even more so now that Iran has increased its military spending. The US has clearly expressed it does not want war with Iran, which has also sent the same message. Israeli President Herzog has also said they are not seeking war but there's no predicting the leadership of Netanyahu and his cabinet with the likes of its Finance Minister Bezazel Smotrich who called for a retaliation that "resonates through the Middle East," and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir who said Israel should "go crazy." The truth is, no one truly knows what lies ahead. Geopolitics is playing like a nail-biting game of chess, and if the action and reaction cycle continues, a slightly wrong move from any key player could tip the world over the edge.

Ramisa Rob is a journalist, in-charge of Geopolitical Insights at The Daily Star.​

 

[Lulldapull]

We can easily get dragged into it. They already recruit our mercenaries. Their governments have a nasty influence over our country & people.

We can only get dragged in like we are with Jesh Adl drama. Irani's know dat we are fukking around using GCC/ US/ Israeli dollars. Otherwise there ain't no beef wid da Irani's for us. They treat balochi like animals, far worse than we do no?......The are also hosting over 2 million Pakistani balochi, cuz wes a failed state no and can't run our own Balochistan? Gwader runnin on Irani bhatta. So is our failed Balochistan's economy......including water and power and food n fuel......you understand all dis no? What should we do now?

 

[Lulldapull]

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Israel-Iran: Hell on earth

The US’ need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

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Israel-Iran: Hell on earth
Israel can injure Iran, but it cannot beat Iran. It would even be a tough shot for the US.

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Iran's retaliatory attacks in the weekend on Israeli soil, had brought the world to a standstill, as Israel's allies rushed to take down hundreds of drones and missiles. It was the US, not Israel, that shot down most of Iran's drones; the Pentagon coordinated a multinational region-wide defense from northern Iraq to the southern Persian gulf. Had merely one missile gotten through to kill Israelis, the war clouds darkening the skies over the Middle East would've caused a black-out in the region. While parallels with World War I may seem contrived, Iran's attacks on Israel have shifted the strategic reality in the region.

The media is filled with debates about whether the attack was a success or a failure, and who won and who lost. Iran managed to hit two military targets on the ground in Israel, including Nevatim Air Base. Scott Ritter, a former United Nations Special Commission (UNSC) inspector analysing the attack, has said, "There is no other place on the planet, not the White House, not the Kremlin, that has the level and density of sophisticated anti-ballistic missiles than Nevatim Air Field. My understanding is that Iran launched 7 missiles, 2 of them were probably shot down but 5 hit despite all of this." He further added, "This should prove to everybody, Israeli and American alike, that there is no defense against Iranian missiles."

While assessing the historic attack, Iran's domestic political factors must also be factored into the geopolitical equation. Recently, there has been a resurgence of Shia supremacists in Iran such as the Paydari Front, similar to the Zionists sitting in the Israeli cabinet. The head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Major General Hossein Salami, has also said the regime is now moving away from "strategic patience," and working with "a new equation." It is unclear whether Iran would risk a full-blown costly war, and whether their bellicose rhetoric will be another warning, steering clear of casualties, like their salvo of hundreds of drones was. But an emotional Israel that crosses the line has the potential to unleash catastrophe.

On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it. The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both. — Ramisa Rob

Israel's allies are now scrambling, working around the clock, to convince Israel to restrain after cleaning up Israel's mess all weekend. The road ahead, that we are looking at, could potentially lead to a war that every world power is looking to avoid, but one that could be inevitable if there is any miscalculation on either side testing the tolerance of the other. To note: when we speak about Israel's response, we must also factor in the US fully, and the rest of the West to an extent. And when we speak about Iran, we are also talking about Russia—which exports Iran's Shahed drones and has used it to great effect in Ukraine—and consider China, as demonstrated by Iran's BRICS membership last year.

Iran's retaliation to Israel's deadly attack on its Consulate shares an eerie similarity to its response to the assassination of its top general, Qassim Soleimani, in 2020, by the US. Iran attacked two US air bases in Iraq, avoiding casualties, and received no further retaliation from the US. While the optics of Iran's attacks on Israel seem disproportionate, its actual toll with one serious injury, compared to 110 injured troops in 2020 is far less. The Western media at the time, took to rebuking Trump for escalating tensions with Iran; New York Times published reports that loudly declared, "Seven days in January: How Trump Pushed US and Iran to the Brink of War." On Tuesday, April 17, a leaked memo from the NYT, obtained by The Intercept, shows that the paper's editors and deputies handed out directives to their journalists, restricting them to use words like "genocide," and "ethnic cleansing," and avoid using the phrase "occupied land" when describing Palestinian land. The pandora box of double standards of the credible, Pulitzer Prize-winning US media outlets has cracked open.

Other liberal outlets—or perhaps it's more accurate to describe them now as pro-Biden or pro-Dem—such as Vox, ran analyses in 2020, interviewed defence experts, to establish that a war between the US and Iran would look like "hell on earth." Where are those punchy articles now though? Where's the rebuke for Netanyahu? The same Vox, at the aftermath of an edge of the cliff situation provoked by Netanyahu's government, has concluded, "Israel beat Iran—for now."

One thing the US media surely gets right is that Donald Trump is most definitely a threat to US national security; he may be saying this Iran attack would not have happened under his leadership but he loves to lie, and his track record contradicts the claims. But it's also important to learn from the history of the Trump-Iran face-off in January 2020, and understand that the restraint from the US to not further retaliate avoided what could've been "hell on earth." Netanyahu and the Israeli government which provoked this paradigm shift from a shadow war to a direct conflict, for the worse, is a grave threat to US national security. Iran sent a message in their attacks on Israel: "Control." The message was clearly intended to the US too, because Tehran's long-held strategic aim has been to end the US presence in a region it seeks to dominate. The US' backing of Israel in its genocide in Gaza has created the perfect excuse for Iran to advance that strategy, and it shows.

According to analysts, Netanyahu has two options that serve his political interest, that of perpetual war as the minute the war ends in Gaza, so does his political career. Former Israeli Ehud Olmert from 2006-2009, openly admitted to Mehedi Hasan on Zeteo, that Netanyahu has financed Hamas, so his war-mongering tendencies are uncontested at this point. On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it. The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both.

Biden's confusing actions in the aftermath of the Iran attacks reflect the tremendous pressure he is under. After announcing that the US would not participate in any counteroffensive against Iran, later on Sunday, Biden pushed the House of Representatives and Senators to pass additional wartime funding and military aid to Israel. The Biden administration is in a geopolitical mess created by Israel, as well as its own unstrategic, deplorable sponsorship of Israel's genocide on Gaza—the root of this mess. The US is supposedly trying to create a balancing act, to tame its division with Iran while tepidly trying to control Israel, which is way out of control.

There are many dilemmas hovering over Washington, and an intact foreign policy strategy that benefits their national interests, hangs on a thin thread. On one hand, Biden has an election to win soon, and further backing Israel's genocide in Gaza would highly increase the chances of his lengthy political tenure ending with the label "Genocide Joe." On the other hand, the US directly engaging in Israel's war with Iran would be disastrous, both geopolitically and strategically. Economically, it would cause a hike in oil prices and lead to a further global economic downturn. If the US chooses to isolate Israel, it would risk a permanent divorce with its biggest ally. And if the US chooses to back Israel's conflagration with Iran, it runs the risk of isolating itself with Western democracies who might pursue sensible diplomatic outreach to Iran to not entangle themselves in a costly and deadly war.

Biden's best option is to engage in dialogue with Tehran. And that includes a compromise with Israel. Either way, Biden loses. Iran will not capitulate from retaliation; it will only accelerate the current spiral. This is all leaving morality aside. The best course of action is what Biden should've done a long time ago: demanded a halt in Israel's bombardment in Gaza, and forced Israel to normalise with Arab nations with whom it shares animosity against Iran, and recognise Palestinian statehood. But that ship has sailed far out of reach. In a way, Israel's Netanyahu has been a gift for Iran, and the Biden Administration's biggest mistake was handing out a carte blanche to Israel—which does not care about the US—and underestimating the political games of the ungrateful and dangerous Benjamin Netanyahu. Further US military aid to Israel now, will undoubtedly aggravate the genocide in Gaza and even give ammunition to Israel to poke Iran more and find an excuse to divert the war to a wider conflict. Giving Israel weapons right now will be another big mistake by Biden. Does one give guns to serial killers and expect them to be peaceful with them?

Aside from Israel's response to Iran directly, the tensions brewing between Israel and Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Lebanon, which is also the most strongly armed non-state actor, with 150,000 missiles and rockets, is another front that has the potential to erupt into a wider war between Iran and Israel. After more than six months of near-daily attacks between the armed group and Israel, on Monday, April 15, Hezbollah for the first time, claimed responsibility for detonating planted explosives when a group of Israeli soldiers crossed into Lebanon. Four Israeli soldiers have reportedly been injured.

Militarily, Israel can severely injure Iran, particularly with its world's most potent Air Force, but it cannot necessarily "beat" Iran in war. Aside from Iran's vast network of proxies, it also has the numbers: more than half a million active-duty military personnel, while Israel maintains a standing army of 170,000 active personnel, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies' 2024 Military Balance report. Iran has built a long-range air defense system, Bavar-373. Its claimed capabilities are reportedly on par or better than those of the Russian S-300 or the US Patriot.

In the naval front, Iran has armed its recent Revolutionary Guards' navy with drones and its 600 mile range missiles. Russia, which possessed few drones at the start of its invasion of Ukraine, began using two types of Iran-made Shahed drones: the long-ranging Shahed-131 and Shahed-136. Furthermore, Iran's strengthening ties with Russia give the secretive nation a significant military edge and render it a more formidable enemy to defeat as Israeli leaders debate military retaliation, experts say. According to a recent report by the Washington Post, a delegation of Iranian officials visited a Russian factory last March, which has "anti-aircraft batteries—including Russia's S-400, which analysts assess to be capable of detecting and destroying stealth fighter jets flown by Israel and the United States."

Though Israel has significant missile stockpiles, Iran possesses the "largest and most diverse missile arsenal in the Middle East," according to the CSIS Missile Defense Project. The nation's longest-range platforms are ballistic missiles—Sejjil, Ghadr and Khorramshahr—which can reach targets to around 1,240 miles, including all of Israel.

And then there's the question of Iran's nuclear programme, which Iran denies while also arguing that it has the right to access "civil" nuclear energy. According to a report on US foreign policy on Iran, published this January by Congressional Report Service, Iran "reportedly increased its nuclear activities in the context of heightened regional tensions in late 2023." Regardless of whether the nation has a covert fortress of a nuclear programme, Iran's close ties with Russia, and China—with whom the US is entangled in a Cold War—provide the nation with heavyweight backers. An eruption of the conflict has the possibility to unite Russia and China on the Iran axis with their common interest to destroy US hegemony. The US' need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

Even for the US, engaging in a war with Iran would exhaust its resources. Pentagon officials in 2019, estimated that a strategy to destroy Iranian nuclear weapon facilities would require a minimum of 120,000 troops throughout the Middle East. The US would not be able to overwhelm the Iranian military capacity with a strategy reliant on air and naval power, even more so now that Iran has increased its military spending. The US has clearly expressed it does not want war with Iran, which has also sent the same message. Israeli President Herzog has also said they are not seeking war but there's no predicting the leadership of Netanyahu and his cabinet with the likes of its Finance Minister Bezazel Smotrich who called for a retaliation that "resonates through the Middle East," and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir who said Israel should "go crazy." The truth is, no one truly knows what lies ahead. Geopolitics is playing like a nail-biting game of chess, and if the action and reaction cycle continues, a slightly wrong move from any key player could tip the world over the edge.

Ramisa Rob is a journalist, in-charge of Geopolitical Insights at The Daily Star.​

Saif bhai we ain’t got any drama wid da Irani turani nor wid India anymore. We’ve been put in our place long ago by da US. India has an economy 10 times our size! And the Irani’s got an economy 5 times our size (the moment there is a western sanctions/ currency adjustment)….

 

[Lulldapull]

Here’s a believable narrative……could this be true? 　US telling khamenei to just play along so Israeli-heel gets some face saving and we da ghareeb heave a sigh of relief too that oil/ gas not goin go up?….

 

[ThunderCat]

We can only get dragged in like we are with Jesh Adl drama. Irani's know dat we are fukking around using GCC/ US/ Israeli dollars. Otherwise there ain't no beef wid da Irani's for us. They treat balochi like animals, far worse than we do no?......The are also hosting over 2 million Pakistani balochi, cuz wes a failed state no and can't run our own Balochistan? Gwader runnin on Irani bhatta. So is our failed Balochistan's economy......including water and power and food n fuel......you understand all dis no? What should we do now?

We need to ditch Gawadar and focus on solar energy for Baloch households. That will improve their lives drastically. Maybe we can skip solar power for places like Quetta as it's no good during winters.

Providing Baloch families in the rest of the province with solar power will drastically reduce their frustration. This would include providing them with solar powered vehicles for basic transport.

 

[ThunderCat]

In addition, there is Saudi-Indian Salafist/Wahhabi/Deobandi influence, and they are the most powerful lobby with more capability to cause damage. There is, however, no organic Pakistani influence in Pakistan, which is regrettable.

There is, but it's minimal compared to the pro-Western/Indian, pro-Ummah types.

 

[Lulldapull]

There is, but it's minimal compared to the pro-Western/Indian, pro-Ummah types.

Bhai I’m seein total wahabbi with munch shaved off and Osama daarhi praising Iran and cryin for Gaza….….problem is our qaum is khoti….we can never win bro…..anyone can fool us. Today Sunni wahabbi tomorrow deobandi, day after hanafi and the following day wes shia now!…..……oh bhaaanchhhh….…..kuchh bhee buss….anything goes man. Total khota action. Whoever foolin us, wes ready to do anything and everythang. Too easy to fool our ghareeb awaam.

 

[Old School]

[H1]Iran Struck Israel Using Outdated Missiles - IRGC Commander[/H1]
"We attacked Israel using outdated weapons and minimal means. We did not deploy missiles such as Khorramshahr, Sejil, Shahid Haj Qasem, Kheibar Shekan or Fattah-2. We forced Israel and the Western camp to use maximum armaments with only minimal effort on our part," Hadjizade said, as quoted by Tasnim News Agency.

 

[Lulldapull]

Our one true jungli khota continues to talk rubbish. Problem with chariya maqbool sahb is that he is a chutiya deobandi, which exposes him as a true monafiq. What he fails to do repeatedly is to deny the fact that Sunni/ Wahabbiyat don't got no legs to stand upon. I wonder if his dad was a liar too? like he is today? Monafqat should be the defining characteristic, if a Wahabbi/ Deobandi gets exposed and discredited:

 

[Saif]

US announces new sanctions on Iran after missile strike on Israel

The United States on Thursday announced new sanctions on Iran targeting its unarmed aerial vehicle production after its attack on Israel, and US President Joe Biden said G7 leaders were committed to acting together to increase economic pressure on Tehran. Biden said the United States and i

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Israel's military displays what they say is an Iranian ballistic missile which they retrieved from the Dead Sea after Iran launched drones and missiles towards Israel, at Julis military base, in southern Israel April 16, 2024. REUTERS/Amir Cohen/File Photo
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The United States on Thursday announced new sanctions on Iran targeting its unarmed aerial vehicle production after its attack on Israel, and US President Joe Biden said G7 leaders were committed to acting together to increase economic pressure on Tehran.

Biden said the United States and its allies had helped Israel beat back the April 13 missile and drone strike and were now holding Iran accountable with the new sanctions and export controls.

"The sanctions target leaders and entities connected to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's Defense Ministry, and the Iranian government's missile and drone programme that enabled this brazen assault," Biden said in a statement.

"And our allies and partners have or will issue additional sanctions and measures to restrict Iran's destabilising military programmes," Biden said.

A US Treasury Department statement said the US measures targeted 16 individuals and two entities enabling Iran's UAV production, including engine types that power Iran's Shahed variant UAVs, which were used in the April 13 attack.

Treasury said it was also designating five companies in multiple jurisdictions providing component materials for steel production to Iran's Khuzestan Steel Company (KSC), one of Iran's largest steel producers, or purchasing KSC's finished steel products.

Also targeted were three subsidiaries of Iranian automaker Bahman Group, which it said had materially supported Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

The statement said the US Commerce Department was also imposing new controls to restrict Iran's access to technologies, such as basic commercial grade microelectronics.

Tehran says it carried out the April 13 attack in retaliation for a presumed Israeli strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus which killed two generals and several others on April 1. Israel has said it will retaliate, while a senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Thursday Iran could review its "nuclear doctrine" following Israeli threats.

Treasury said that concurrent with its action, Britain was imposing sanctions targeting several Iranian military organisations, individuals and entities involved in Iran's UAV and ballistic missile industries.

Britain said these sanctions included the General Staff of the Armed Forces and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy, according to an official notice.

"We're using Treasury's economic tools to degrade and disrupt key aspects of Iran's malign activity, including its UAV programme and the revenue the regime generates to support its terrorism," US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said in the statement.

"We will continue to deploy our sanctions authority to counter Iran with further actions in the days and weeks ahead."

The US statement came after finance ministers and central bank governors of the Group of Seven industrial democracies said after a meeting in Wednesday they would "ensure close coordination of any future measure to diminish Iran's ability to acquire, produce, or transfer weapons to support destabilising regional activities."

European Union leaders also decided on Wednesday to step up sanctions against Iran after Tehran's attack on Israel raised concerns about a wider conflict in the Middle East.

 

[Saif]

What Iran and Israel would wield in a long-range air war

An Iranian drone is seen during the National Army Day parade ceremony in Tehran, Iran, April 17, 2024. Majid Asgaripour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS Iran's first direct attack on Israel on April 13 has brought renewed focus on their air-defence capabilities as Israeli leaders decide ho

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What Iran and Israel would wield in a long-range air war
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An Iranian drone is seen during the National Army Day parade ceremony in Tehran, Iran, April 17, 2024. Photo : Majid Asgaripour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS

An Iranian drone is seen during the National Army Day parade ceremony in Tehran, Iran, April 17, 2024. Majid Asgaripour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS

Iran's first direct attack on Israel on April 13 has brought renewed focus on their air-defence capabilities as Israeli leaders decide how best to respond.

Below is a look at both countries' air forces and aerial defence systems:

IRAN

The Iranian air force has 37,000 personnel, but decades of international sanctions have largely cut the country off from the latest high-tech military equipment, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London (IISS).

The air force only has a few dozen working strike aircraft, including Russian jets and ageing US models acquired before the Iranian revolution of 1979.

Tehran has a squadron of nine F-4 and F-5 fighter jets, one squadron of Russian-made Sukhoi-24 jets, and some MiG-29s, F7 and F14 aircraft, IISS said.

The Iranians also have pilotless planes designed to fly into targets and explode. Analysts believe this drone arsenal numbers in the low thousands. In addition, they say, Iran has more than 3,500 surface-to-surface missiles, some of which carry half-tonne warheads. The number capable of reaching Israel may be lower, however.

Iran's Air force Commander, Amir Vahedi, on Wednesday said the Sukhoi-24s, were in their "best state of preparedness" to counter any potential Israeli attack.

But Iran's dependence on Sukhoi-24s jets, first developed in the 1960s, shows the relative weakness of its air force.

For defence, Iran relies on a mixture of Russian and domestically produced surface-to-air missile and air defence systems.

Tehran received deliveries of the S-300 anti-aircraft system from Russia in 2016, which are long-range surface-to-air missile systems capable of engaging multiple targets simultaneously, including aircraft and ballistic missiles.

Iran also has the domestically produced Bavar-373 surface-to-air missile platform, as well as the Sayyad and Raad defence systems.

Fabian Hinz, a research fellow at IISS, said: "If there was a major conflict between the two countries, Iran would probably concentrate on occasional successes. They don't have the comprehensive air defences that Israel has."

ISRAEL

Israel has an advanced, US-supplied air force with hundreds of F-15, F-16 and F-35 multipurpose jet fighters. These played a role in shooting down Iranian drones at the weekend.

The air force lacks long-range bombers, though a smaller fleet of repurposed Boeing 707s serve as refueling tankers that could enable its fighters to reach Iran for pinpoint sorties.

A pioneer in drone technology, Israel has Heron pilotless planes capable of flying for more than 30 hours, enough for far-flung operations. Its Delilah loitering munition has an estimated range of 250 km (155 miles) - far short of the Gulf, though the air force could close the gap by delivering one of the munitions closer to Iran's border.

Israel is widely believed to have developed long-range surface-to-surface missiles, but neither confirms nor denies this. In 2018, then-Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman announced that the Israeli military would get a new "missile force". The military has not said where those plans now stand.

A multi-layer aerial defence system developed with US help after the 1991 Gulf war provides Israel will several additional options for shooting down long-range Iranian drones and missiles.

The highest-altitude system is Arrow-3, which intercepts ballistic missiles in space. An earlier model, Arrow-2, works at lower altitudes. The mid-range David's Sling counters ballistic missiles and cruise missiles, while the short-range Iron Dome tackles the kind of rockets and mortars used by Iranian-backed militias in Gaza and Lebanon - but can also, in theory, be fired at any more powerful missiles missed by Arrow or David's Sling.

The Israeli systems are designed to be patched into counterpart US interceptors in the region for coalition-strength defences.

"Israel's air defences performed well over the course of the (April 13) attack," said Sidharth Kausha, a research fellow at the Royal United Strategic Institute in London.

He noted that some of the incoming targets, particularly drones, were shot down by allied aircraft before they reached Israel, "which limited its degree of exposure to some threat types, and there appears to have been sufficient early warning to enable preparation of a coalition response which means the system was better prepared than it might have been if exposed to a similar attack with less early warning."​

 

[Saif]

Iranian commander says Tehran could review 'nuclear doctrine' amid Israeli threats

Iran could review its "nuclear doctrine" following Israeli threats, a senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Thursday, raising concerns about Tehran's nuclear programme which it has always said was strictly for peaceful purposes. Israel has said it will retaliate agains

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Iranian commander says Tehran could review 'nuclear doctrine' amid Israeli threats
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Apr 18, 2024 19:03

Iranians carry a model of a missile during a celebration following the IRGC attack on Israel, in Tehran, Iran, April 15, 2024. Majid Asgaripour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/File Photo

Iran could review its "nuclear doctrine" following Israeli threats, a senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Thursday, raising concerns about Tehran's nuclear programme which it has always said was strictly for peaceful purposes.

Israel has said it will retaliate against Iran's April 13 missile and drone attack, which Tehran says was carried out in response to a suspected Israeli strike on its embassy compound in Damascus earlier this month.

"The threats of the Zionist regime (Israel) against Iran's nuclear facilities make it possible to review our nuclear doctrine and deviate from our previous considerations," Ahmad Haghtalab, the Guards commander in charge of nuclear security, was quoted as saying by the semi-official Tasnim news agency.

Iran's Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has the last say on Tehran's nuclear programme, which the West suspects has military purposes.

In 2021, Iran's then-intelligence minister said Western pressure could push Tehran to seek nuclear weapons, the development of which Khamenei banned in a fatwa, or religious decree, in the early 2000s.

"Building and stockpiling nuclear bombs is wrong and using it is haram (religiously forbidden) ... Although we have nuclear technology, Iran has firmly avoided it," Khamenei reiterated in 2019.

Iran's foreign ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment.

"If the Zionist regime wants to take action against our nuclear centres and facilities, we will surely and categorically reciprocate with advanced missiles against their own nuclear sites," Haghtalab said.

Indirect talks between Tehran and Washington to revive Iran's 2015 nuclear pact has stalled since 2022. The accord, aimed at keeping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, required Tehran to accept restrictions on its nuclear programme and more extensive United Nations' inspections, in exchange for an end to UN, European Union and US sanctions.

The deal, which had capped Iran's uranium enrichment at 3.67 per cent, was abandoned in 2018 by then-US President Donald Trump, who said it was too generous to Tehran.

Rafael Grossi, the head of the UN nuclear watchdog, said in February that Iran continued to enrich uranium at rates up to 60 per cent purity, which is far beyond the needs for commercial nuclear use.​

 

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Iran fires air defence batteries in provinces as explosions heard near Isfahan

 

[Old School]

[H1]Tehran plays down reported Israeli attacks, signals no retaliation[/H1]

 

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[H3]Satellite images show damage on Israeli air base after Iranian attack[/H3]
Nevatim air base in southern West Bank shows major changes in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14

News Desk
April 24, 2024

Nevatim Airbase, located in the southern West Bank and west of the Dead Sea. PHOTO: GOOGLE MAPS

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Following the events of April 13 when Iran launched an attack on Israel, conflicting reports have emerged regarding the success and impact of the assault. While Iran boasts of a successful strike, Israel contends that the attack was thwarted.

A BBC report analysed the satellite imagery to unravel the facts surrounding Iran's attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli response.

Iran's aerial assault on Israel on April 13 was in retaliation to an attack on its embassy in Damascus, dubbed "Vada Sadiq" by Iran. Reports indicate that Iran deployed approximately 300 missiles and suicide drones during the early hours of that day. However, Israel claimed to have intercepted most of these projectiles with the aid of the 'Aero' air defence system and regional allies, averting significant damage to Israeli territories.

According to Israeli military sources, Iran's attack comprised 170 drones, 120 ballistic missiles, and 30 cruise missiles, executed in three phases targeting military installations rather than civilian centres.

The Aerospace Force of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, under the leadership of Amir Ali Hajizadeh, spearheaded this assault. However, precise details regarding the types and numbers of drones and missiles employed remain undisclosed.
Initial statements from the Revolutionary Guards on Iran's state television asserted that specific targets within Israel were hit using drones and missiles.
Subsequent reports showcased Iranian drones, Paveh cruise missiles, Emad-3 ballistic missiles, and other Iranian ballistic missiles like Khyber Shahkan and Kadir.

Iranian media have shown images of missiles and drones fired at Israel. PHOTO: IRIBNEWS
Iran claims to have struck the Nevatim air base and the Hermon intelligence base in the Golan Heights during the attack.

Satellite imagery analysis conducted by BBC sheds light on the aftermath of the attack, comparing images before and after the incident.
Notable changes, including damage to the Nevatim air base, have been observed. The base, strategically significant due to its proximity to Israel's Dimona nuclear facility, reportedly sustained minor damage, as confirmed by Israeli authorities. Images reveal alterations to the runway and infrastructure, corroborating reports of the attack's impact.

Location of Nevatim Air Base. PHOTO: MICROSOFT

Assessing damage and claims at Nevatim Airbase

Nevatim air base, located in the southern West Bank and west of the Dead Sea, has witnessed significant changes as depicted in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14.

These images reveal alterations in at least four locations within the base, notably on the runway where a large scar is visible post-attack. Israeli authorities have confirmed "minor" damage to the base, with repairs underway as showcased in a video released by the Israeli military.

Four place where damage is detected at Nevatim Base. Condition on April 12 (L) and April 13 (R). PHOTO: PLANET LABS (PBC)

Satellite images of the southern runway of Nevatim Base. Condition on April 12 (L) and April 13 (R). PHOTO: PLANET LABS (PBC)

The runway repairs captured in the video align with satellite imagery showing a major change in the same location, indicating the extent of damage caused by the Iranian attack. The proximity of the damaged area to the hangar of Israeli fighter jets highlights the strategic significance of this target.

IDF footage shows repairs to the sou
th runway near a hangar at the Navatim base. PHOTO: SCREENGRAB
While Israel downplays the impact, Iran contends that the base houses Israeli F-35 stealth fighter jets allegedly involved in attacks on Iranian targets. However, Israel has neither confirmed nor denied these claims.

According to former United Nations weapons inspector Scott Reiter, "Nevatim air base was hit by five to seven missiles." American network ABC quoted some Israeli sources as saying that the base was hit by five missiles.

Hermon intelligence base and Ramon Airbase

BBC also delved into the details surrounding Hermon's intelligence base in Israel and the claims made by both sides in the aftermath of the conflict.

Hermon's intelligence base, situated in the Golan Heights near the Syria-Iraq border, holds strategic importance as the reputed headquarters of Israel's crucial military intelligence unit 8200.

Responsible for electronic intelligence, 8200 is considered Israel's largest and most critical intelligence unit. The base's proximity to volatile border regions underscores its significance in gathering crucial information for Israeli security operations.

During the conflict, Iranian Revolutionary Guards claimed that Hermon's intelligence base was involved in gathering intelligence for an attack on their consulate, thus justifying Iran's targeting of the base.

However, the lack of ground evidence and specific site data makes it challenging to ascertain the nature and extent of any damage inflicted on the base.
Iranian state media alleged that the Ramon air base was also successfully targeted. Still, Israeli authorities have refuted these claims, citing a lack of substantial evidence and ground verification.

Mohammad Baqheri, chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, specifically named Hermon intelligence base and Nevatim air base as targets in a television interview, further highlighting the conflicting narratives surrounding the targets of the attacks.

Satellite imagery comparisons conducted post-attack have revealed minimal changes near the targeted military bases, with no significant evidence of damage or alterations.

Satellite images show Israeli air base damage from Iranian attack | The Express Tribune

Nevatim Airbase in southern West Bank shows major changes in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14

tribune.com.pk

 

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[h3]Satellite images show damage on Israeli air base after Iranian attack[/h3]Nevatim air base in southern West Bank shows major changes in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14

News Desk
April 24, 2024

Nevatim Airbase, located in the southern West Bank and west of the Dead Sea. PHOTO: GOOGLE MAPS
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Following the events of April 13 when Iran launched an attack on Israel, conflicting reports have emerged regarding the success and impact of the assault. While Iran boasts of a successful strike, Israel contends that the attack was thwarted.

A BBC report analysed the satellite imagery to unravel the facts surrounding Iran's attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli response.

Iran's aerial assault on Israel on April 13 was in retaliation to an attack on its embassy in Damascus, dubbed "Vada Sadiq" by Iran. Reports indicate that Iran deployed approximately 300 missiles and suicide drones during the early hours of that day. However, Israel claimed to have intercepted most of these projectiles with the aid of the 'Aero' air defence system and regional allies, averting significant damage to Israeli territories.

According to Israeli military sources, Iran's attack comprised 170 drones, 120 ballistic missiles, and 30 cruise missiles, executed in three phases targeting military installations rather than civilian centres.

The Aerospace Force of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, under the leadership of Amir Ali Hajizadeh, spearheaded this assault. However, precise details regarding the types and numbers of drones and missiles employed remain undisclosed.
Initial statements from the Revolutionary Guards on Iran's state television asserted that specific targets within Israel were hit using drones and missiles.
Subsequent reports showcased Iranian drones, Paveh cruise missiles, Emad-3 ballistic missiles, and other Iranian ballistic missiles like Khyber Shahkan and Kadir.

Iranian media have shown images of missiles and drones fired at Israel. PHOTO: IRIBNEWS
Iran claims to have struck the Nevatim air base and the Hermon intelligence base in the Golan Heights during the attack.

Satellite imagery analysis conducted by BBC sheds light on the aftermath of the attack, comparing images before and after the incident.
Notable changes, including damage to the Nevatim air base, have been observed. The base, strategically significant due to its proximity to Israel's Dimona nuclear facility, reportedly sustained minor damage, as confirmed by Israeli authorities. Images reveal alterations to the runway and infrastructure, corroborating reports of the attack's impact.

Location of Nevatim Air Base. PHOTO: MICROSOFT

Assessing damage and claims at Nevatim Airbase

Nevatim air base, located in the southern West Bank and west of the Dead Sea, has witnessed significant changes as depicted in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14.

These images reveal alterations in at least four locations within the base, notably on the runway where a large scar is visible post-attack. Israeli authorities have confirmed "minor" damage to the base, with repairs underway as showcased in a video released by the Israeli military.

Four place where damage is detected at Nevatim Base. Condition on April 12 (L) and April 13 (R). PHOTO: PLANET LABS (PBC)

Satellite images of the southern runway of Nevatim Base. Condition on April 12 (L) and April 13 (R). PHOTO: PLANET LABS (PBC)

The runway repairs captured in the video align with satellite imagery showing a major change in the same location, indicating the extent of damage caused by the Iranian attack. The proximity of the damaged area to the hangar of Israeli fighter jets highlights the strategic significance of this target.

IDF footage shows repairs to the sou
th runway near a hangar at the Navatim base. PHOTO: SCREENGRAB
While Israel downplays the impact, Iran contends that the base houses Israeli F-35 stealth fighter jets allegedly involved in attacks on Iranian targets. However, Israel has neither confirmed nor denied these claims.

According to former United Nations weapons inspector Scott Reiter, "Nevatim air base was hit by five to seven missiles." American network ABC quoted some Israeli sources as saying that the base was hit by five missiles.

Hermon intelligence base and Ramon Airbase

BBC also delved into the details surrounding Hermon's intelligence base in Israel and the claims made by both sides in the aftermath of the conflict.

Hermon's intelligence base, situated in the Golan Heights near the Syria-Iraq border, holds strategic importance as the reputed headquarters of Israel's crucial military intelligence unit 8200.

Responsible for electronic intelligence, 8200 is considered Israel's largest and most critical intelligence unit. The base's proximity to volatile border regions underscores its significance in gathering crucial information for Israeli security operations.

During the conflict, Iranian Revolutionary Guards claimed that Hermon's intelligence base was involved in gathering intelligence for an attack on their consulate, thus justifying Iran's targeting of the base.

However, the lack of ground evidence and specific site data makes it challenging to ascertain the nature and extent of any damage inflicted on the base.
Iranian state media alleged that the Ramon air base was also successfully targeted. Still, Israeli authorities have refuted these claims, citing a lack of substantial evidence and ground verification.

Mohammad Baqheri, chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, specifically named Hermon intelligence base and Nevatim air base as targets in a television interview, further highlighting the conflicting narratives surrounding the targets of the attacks.

Satellite imagery comparisons conducted post-attack have revealed minimal changes near the targeted military bases, with no significant evidence of damage or alterations.

Satellite images show Israeli air base damage from Iranian attack | The Express Tribune

Nevatim Airbase in southern West Bank shows major changes in satellite images taken between April 12 and 14

tribune.com.pk

Isreal denied but the fact is very different as we can see from the satellite imagery. Israel never acknowledges their damages unless there is a false flag attack to play victims.

 

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Isreal denied but the fact is very different as we can see from the satellite imagery. Israel never acknowledges their damages unless there is a false flag attack to play victims.

on Al-Assad base attack the Gen Soleimani episode 2 years ago, the irani missiles struck with pin point accuracy. So irani missile accuracy is not even up for debate. The only thing for debate now is that what those missiles targeted and what got destroyed on the base. I'm 100% sure Iran's own cube sats have images taken right before/ after the strike, but they are not releasing them to contain political fallout/ escalation.

 

[Saif]

Iran threatens to annihilate Israel should it launch a major attack

An Israeli attack on Iranian territory could radically change dynamics and result in there being nothing left of the "Zionist regime", Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi was quoted as saying on Tuesday by the official IRNA news agency. Raisi began a three-day visit to Pakistan on Monday and ha

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

Iran threatens to annihilate Israel should it launch a major attack
REUTERS
Published :
Apr 23, 2024 21:10
Updated :
Apr 23, 2024 21:10

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi arrives on a three-day official visit in Islamabad, Pakistan April 22, 2024. Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA)/Handout via REUTERS

An Israeli attack on Iranian territory could radically change dynamics and result in there being nothing left of the "Zionist regime", Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi was quoted as saying on Tuesday by the official IRNA news agency.

Raisi began a three-day visit to Pakistan on Monday and has vowed to boost trade between the neighbouring nations to $10 billion a year.

The two Muslim neighbours are seeking to mend ties after unprecedented tit-for-tat military strikes this year.

On Friday, explosions were heard over the Iranian city of Isfahan in what sources said was an Israeli attack, but Tehran played down the incident and said it had no plans for retaliation.

Iran launched a barrage of missiles and drones at Israel on April 13 in what it said was retaliation for Israel's suspected deadly strike on its embassy compound in Damascus on April 1, but almost all were shot down.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran will honourably continue to support the Palestinian resistance," Raisi added in the speech in Lahore.​

 

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Iran threatens to annihilate Israel should it launch a major attack

An Israeli attack on Iranian territory could radically change dynamics and result in there being nothing left of the "Zionist regime", Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi was quoted as saying on Tuesday by the official IRNA news agency. Raisi began a three-day visit to Pakistan on Monday and ha

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

Iran threatens to annihilate Israel should it launch a major attack
REUTERS
Published :
Apr 23, 2024 21:10
Updated :
Apr 23, 2024 21:10

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Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi arrives on a three-day official visit in Islamabad, Pakistan April 22, 2024. Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MoFA)/Handout via REUTERS

An Israeli attack on Iranian territory could radically change dynamics and result in there being nothing left of the "Zionist regime", Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi was quoted as saying on Tuesday by the official IRNA news agency.

Raisi began a three-day visit to Pakistan on Monday and has vowed to boost trade between the neighbouring nations to $10 billion a year.

The two Muslim neighbours are seeking to mend ties after unprecedented tit-for-tat military strikes this year.

On Friday, explosions were heard over the Iranian city of Isfahan in what sources said was an Israeli attack, but Tehran played down the incident and said it had no plans for retaliation.

Iran launched a barrage of missiles and drones at Israel on April 13 in what it said was retaliation for Israel's suspected deadly strike on its embassy compound in Damascus on April 1, but almost all were shot down.

"The Islamic Republic of Iran will honourably continue to support the Palestinian resistance," Raisi added in the speech in Lahore.​

Iran's under tremendous global pressure to stop dismantling Israel. Its really come to a head. This is truly uncharted waters.....Nobody knows where dis is headed.