[🇮🇷] Iran's "Operation Truthful Promise - وعده صادق" on Israel : Live Coverage

[Lulldapull]

It is just few appetizer from the Persian. The main course will be the one to watch for.

Israel reporting no impact or damage. I find that hard to believe since we’ve seen dozens of hits on cellphone footage

 

[Old School]

Israel reporting no impact or damage. I find that hard to believe since we’ve seen dozens of hits on cellphone footage

Admitting damages will create a lot of pressure to retaliate against Iran, and Biden told Netanyahu earlier today that the U.S. would not join in attacks against Iran.

 

[Lulldapull]

Admitting damages will create a lot of pressure to retaliate against Iran, and Biden told Netanyahu earlier today that the U.S. would not join in attacks against Iran.

True. It was da same during the Al-Assad base in Iraq 4 years ago. Direct and very accurate strikes. All targets were hit dead on.

 

[Old School]

True. It was da same during the Al-Assad base in Iraq 4 years ago. Direct and very accurate strikes. All targets were hit dead on.

Military damages are easier to conceal than civilian damages. Civilians usually themselves speak up about what happened to them. Iran was very careful only to hurt the military targets; Indians call this sort of attack " Surgical Strike." lol

 

[Lulldapull]

I’m purrtty sure that F-thurrtty Faav base got slaaammedd!……the Houthis and Hezb and the Syrians/Iraqi PMU’s all emptied their arsenals. Like literally a 1000 missiles and double that number in drones/ decoys hit their targets. At the end of da day it’s the harassment that unhinges the basturds. It’s always da case. And Iran killing or injuring 5/10 IDF daily is why Israel attacked da Irani consulate in da first place. Irans sittin pretty a 1000kms away from Israel…..just using its toady…..it’s a real soweet spott to be in no?….

 

[Lulldapull]

Our ‘tajziyakaar’ are basically chutiya people. They don’t know anything about geo-politics. They are just good at IK vs our low budget/ low income Pak army. So stupid/chutiya analysis if anybody reading is from our country. These are the sort of chummppu we have been producing in our educational institutions? What a joke:

 

[ThunderCat]

At first Israel defamed itself by neglecting the welfare of civilians in Gaza as well as creating a humanitarian crisis. But now the tables have turned probably after Iran attacked, not knowing it has only benefited Israel.

And maybe for the better. Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. The Iranian regime does not hold Pakistan's interests at heart and has a negative influence on the country, much like Saudi Arabia.

The difference is that Saudi Arabia is not trying to develop nuclear weapons. Pakistanis cry to me that Israel is an ally of India but remember so is Iran, in some ways more so than Israel.

This tyrannical regime also oppresses it's own people.

 

[Lulldapull]

At first Israel defamed itself by neglecting the welfare of civilians in Gaza as well as creating a humanitarian crisis. But now the tables have turned probably after Iran attacked, not knowing it has only benefited Israel.

And maybe for the better. Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. The Iranian regime does not hold Pakistan's interests at heart and has a negative influence on the country, much like Saudi Arabia.

The difference is that Saudi Arabia is not trying to develop nuclear weapons. Pakistanis cry to me that Israel is an ally of India but remember so is Iran, in some ways more so than Israel.

This tyrannical regime also oppresses it's own people.

Oh bhai Iran has had nukes for 2 decades now…..they’re sitting on em for so long, but the problem with nukes is that you can’t use em! If you use em, you’s committing suicide! That’s all…..nukes are legacy weapons from ww2 era and totally worthless in the modern world. Even if the other side don’t got em, you still can’t nuke em, or else you’d be ostracized for ever and dissolved as a state by the rest of da world in a boycott. That tells us that the era of nukes is long over. The only two countries that could possibly use nukes today are Russia and the US…..that’s it! Nobody else got the ooommpph nor da balls to use nukes.

 

[ThunderCat]

Oh bhai Iran has had nukes for 2 decades now…..they’re sitting on em for so long, but the problem with nukes is that you can’t use em! If you use em, you’s committing suicide! That’s all…..nukes are legacy weapons from ww2 era and totally worthless in the modern world. Even if the other side don’t got em, you still can’t nuke em, or else you’d be ostracized for ever and dissolved as a state by the rest of da world in a boycott. That tells us that the era of nukes is long over. The only two countries that could possibly use nukes today are Russia and the US…..that’s it! Nobody else got the ooommpph nor da balls to use nukes.

Do you think if America or the Russian Federation used nukes, they would not be committing suicide by the threat of nuclear retaliation against them?

 

[Lulldapull]

Do you think if America or the Russian Federation used nukes, they would not be committing suicide by the threat of nuclear retaliation against them?

Yaar both are self sufficient and don’t need the rest of the world for jack shiit! All other nuclear countries are not in that position. Buss!…..we can’t use nukes on India nor can India use dem against us…..pretty simple calculus on da escalation ladder. If Indian takes Lahore tomorrow, do you honestly believe we have the ‘auqaat’ to nuke India? Or likewise if we went and took over Amritsar or Srinagar, the Indians got da auqaat to nuke us?
I believe you know de answer to dis no?
Both of us are a couple of nobody’s!

 

[Azad Kashmir]

saudis and iranians are good friends of india. but saudi also undercover flirting with israel.
pakistan has no leverage but it has to wait patiently for a good opportunity to persuade these nations to be loyal it.
but what kind of opportunity i dont know maybe scare saudis by saying iran is a wild beast ready take over arabia, and get them to be loyal to pakistan and drain them of oil gifts. play both of them and get oil cheap or free.

 

[Lulldapull]

saudis and iranians are good friends of india. but saudi also undercover flirting with israel.
pakistan has no leverage but it has to wait patiently for a good opportunity to persuade these nations to be loyal it.
but what kind of opportunity i dont know maybe scare saudis by saying iran is a wild beast ready take over arabia, and get them to be loyal to pakistan and drain them of oil gifts. play both of them and get oil cheap or free.

We need cheap oil n gas bro.....60% of our budget goes toward it. It's really our achilles heel these two commodities. EV's are too expensive for our ghareeb population and now EV's are not all dat flash anymore. Toyota CEO was right all along, that EV's are just gimmicks. Without oil n gas, the world comes to a screeching halt.

 

[Dogun18]

Iran doesn't want to mess up the current Gaza ceasefire talk going on in Cairo.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-delegation-go-cairo-april-7-gaza-ceasefire-talks-2024-04-06/

Your analysis was wrong about this.

 

[4MikeEcho]

at the speed the projectiles are hitting the ground, those are the ballistic missile. The drones predictably were mostly shotdown in the air from SAMs: they are slow, easy to detect, and warning went out 7 hours ago. More used as decoy and fear weapons , presumably timed to be over Israel as the ballistic missiles came in.

This is not just the first attack on Israel in 50 years, BUT, its brought Israel to the status of a rogue unsafe nation / war zone. Its the Gaza equivalent essentially (albeit a bit richer). Lot of impact on future migrants, foreign investment, and every other respect where Israel had set itself as an extension of Europe / US in the middle east. It doesn't matter if Israel now retaliates against Iran 1000 miles away (to whatever success that will bring) or what real damage was done physically in Israel proper. A lot of people that left Europe and US to be in a jewish state will head back. A lot of future non-die hard jews will rethink about the move.

Just last Nov months ago, every other ad youtube was throwing at me in Europe was about Israel being such a great tourist destination. Now even foreign Govts won't send their representatives.

This is what has changed in Israel: the developed strong country that has intimidated its neighbors and is everything a western country could be is gone

 

[Dogun18]

This is not just the first attack on Israel in 50 years,

Interesting you say this and not count the Hamas response to Israel as an attack.

 

[Old School]

Your analysis was wrong about this.

I am the only one who kept saying that Iran would hit Israerl here again and again in the forum like this more than dozen times :

While you were doubtful when Iran was taking time during the negotiation going on :

 

[Old School]

@Dogun18, when you want to say someone is wrong, try to be smarter next time and do not quote out of context. You haven't even opened a single meaningful thread here all these days with your "avatar."

 

[4MikeEcho]

Interesting you say this and not count the Hamas response to Israel as an attack.

Sovereign peer nation attack is what I am talking about. . Hamas attack does not count if it resulted in completed destruction of Gaza, 150K injured, and 2 million displaced. Attack has to be for relative outcome. So yes, I do NOT count Hamas' one time suicide attack that caused untold destruction to its civilians.

 

[Dogun18]

 

[ThunderCat]

Yaar both are self sufficient and don’t need the rest of the world for jack shiit! All other nuclear countries are not in that position. Buss!…..we can’t use nukes on India nor can India use dem against us…..pretty simple calculus on da escalation ladder. If Indian takes Lahore tomorrow, do you honestly believe we have the ‘auqaat’ to nuke India? Or likewise if we went and took over Amritsar or Srinagar, the Indians got da auqaat to nuke us?
I believe you know de answer to dis no?
Both of us are a couple of nobody’s!

We can see from the Ukraine war that is simply not true. Iran played a critical war in their drone supplies and so did North Korea in their missile and perhaps other weapons supplies.

No country is 100% self-reliant. If anything North Korea is more self-reliant than both.

 

[ghazi]

[H3]Iran's attack seemed planned to minimize casualties while maximizing spectacle[/H3]

Analysis by Tamara Qiblawi, CNN
Sun April 14, 2024

A decades-long shadow war burst out into the open overnight as Iranian drones and missiles lit up the night sky in Israel and the occupied West Bank. Tehran's operation was highly choreographed, apparently designed to minimize casualties while maximizing spectacle.

This was a complex mission. Over 300 drones and missiles navigated above Iran's neighbors, including Jordan and Iraq — both with US military bases — before penetrating the airspace of Iran's mortal enemy, Israel. Israel's allies helped shoot down the bulk of these weapons, but couldn't prevent what was long believed to be the Middle East's doomsday scenario, the Islamic Republic's first-ever attack on Israel.

Israel's fabled Iron Dome air defense system did not disappoint Israelis, many of whom took to bunkers. Only a small handful of locations were attacked, including a military base and an area in the Negev desert, injuring a Bedouin child, while the dome fended off one of the largest drone attacks in history

Yet it was an operation that seemed designed to fail — when Iran launched its killer drones from its own territory some 1,000 miles away, it was giving Israel hours of advance notice.

The symbolism of the attack did the heavy lifting. Rather than fire from one of the neighboring countries where Iran and its non-state allies are present, this was a direct attack from Iranian territory on Israeli territory. This compromised Iran's ability to damage Israel because it robbed the operation of the element of surprise.

Yet for some four hours, the world held its breath as weapons whizzed through the night sky. They were balls of fire hovering overhead as onlookers across three different countries filmed images that seemed to harken the start of a cataclysmic war.

An anti-missile system operates after Iran launched drones and missiles towards Israel, as seen from Ashkelon, Israel.
Amir Cohen/Reuters


The lead time meant that Israel and its regional partners could ready Israel's defenses, and the operation amounted to little more than a terrifying fireworks display. When Iran's permanent mission at the United Nations tweeted that the operation had "concluded," it was easy to come away from it thinking the Islamic Republic was all bark and no bite.

The strike served as a retaliation against the Israeli airstrikes on Iran's consulate in Damascus earlier in April that killed a top commander, and it was in keeping with US intelligence and analysts' expectations.

Iran's leadership felt compelled to strike Israel in order to reiterate its position as a regional powerhouse and to dispel notions of it as a paper tiger. It doubled down on its show of force by launching the operation from its own territory and not by proxy in Syria, Lebanon, Yemen or Iraq.

Yet Iran also needed to try to avoid sparking an all-out war. Its economy has buckled under the weight of Trump-era sanctions, and there is growing discontent on its streets over the government's repressive policies. On Sunday, Iran appeared not only to have factored in Israel's robust air defense systems, but to have relied on it.

The relatively high degree of US intelligence about the operation also suggests Iran may have engaged in back-channelling with Western leaders. Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian said he gave neighboring countries, including major US allies, 72-hour notice. To contain the fall-out of their own operation, they appeared intent to foil it.

The style of attack is reminiscent of Tehran's response to former President Donald Trump's targeted killing of Iran's most storied general, Qassem Soleimani, in January 2020. Tehran gave US troops 10 hours of advance warning before raining down massive ballistic missiles on US military positions in Iraq, including al-Asad airbase.

The attack wreaked havoc, leaving gaping craters in the ground, but caused no known US casualties. In the process, Iranian forces accidentally shot down a commercial jet taking off from Tehran airport, killing over 100 passengers and fuelling public anger against a regime increasingly seen as incompetent.

At the time, the Iranians were preoccupied with demonstrating what their military could do, rather than what it was willing to do. The US did not retaliate, averting regional war.

Four years later, Iran's playbook may not unfold in the same way. Israel has already vowed to respond. The US has publicly stated it would not participate in an Israeli retaliation, which may reassure Iran. Yet Netanyahu's Israel has proven increasingly unpredictable. Iran's threats of more severe action in case of further escalation may fall on deaf ears in Israel, to its own peril.

Demonstrators wave Iran's flag as they gather at Palestine Square in Tehran on April 14, 2024, after Iran launched a drone and missile attack on Israel.
Atta Kenare/AFP/Getty Images

In a future Iran strike, Tehran may not hesitate to use Israel's northern border as a launching pad. A week before the attack, one Lebanese source familiar with the matter had ruled out that Hezbollah, Iran's most powerful armed group partner, would be part of Iran's initial retaliation to the April 1 consulate strike.

However, the source warned that Hezbollah and other Iran-backed fighting forces "will be prepared for the stage that comes after the Iranian response."

A forceful Israeli retaliation may push Iran to take on an even more hardline position beyond its Israel policy. Conservatives have consolidated control of Iran's government in recent years, and there is growing resistance to Western pressure to curb the country's feared uranium enrichment program.

"There must be some satisfaction in certain circles in DC and Israel that Iran's limited response reflects the imbalance of power in Israel's favor," wrote Trita Parsi, DC-based Iran analyst and Executive Vice President of the Quincy Institute, on X.

"But think further and you'll realise how this episode will strengthen those in Tehran who believe Iran must go nuclear."

 

[ghazi]

 

[ghazi]

 

[TheNewb77]

 

[Old School]

[H1]The staggering cost of Israel's defense against Iran's missile attack: '4-5 billion shekels per night'[/H1]
($1.06 billion to $1.33 billion per night)
The interceptors, jet fuel and other materials expended in shooting down Iran's unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and missiles cost about 4 billion to 5 billion shekels ($1.06 billion to $1.33 billion), Israeli Brigadier General Reem Aminoach told local media outlet Ynet News on Sunday

 

[Old School]

'Massive failure of Israeli and American deterrence': John Bolton , National Security Adviser under President Donald Trump

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2024/04/14/iran-missiles-israel-john-bolton-nr-vpx.cnn

 

[Lulldapull]

What they're showing on da footage mostly are the decoys being downed. The very specific targeting of the F-35base in the Negev by the Hypersonic missiles and the destruction of the IDF base in the Golan, they will never show.

 

[Lulldapull]

We can see from the Ukraine war that is simply not true. Iran played a critical war in their drone supplies and so did North Korea in their missile and perhaps other weapons supplies.

No country is 100% self-reliant. If anything North Korea is more self-reliant than both.

Iran had thousands of cheap drones to give since Russians have exhausted their stocks of all different types of weaponry. Iranian 122mm MBRL rockets and the 155mm arty shells and ammo is all Russia imported. I am not sure if the DPRK has supplied Russia anything. There are unconfirmed reports of DPRK Howitzers and some SSM's having been supplied, but they remain unconfirmed. DPRK is not in good shape bro. It's just a Chinese military proxy to intimidate SK and Japan. Here in SK/ Japan all the DPRK defectors who take political asylum are malnourished and have stomach parasites (tidd ich keerray) and other easily treatable diseases or medical conditions. China treats the DPRK even worse than the Chinese treat us.

 

[ThunderCat]

Iran had thousands of cheap drones to give since Russians have exhausted their stocks of all different types of weaponry. Iranian 122mm MBRL rockets and the 155mm arty shells and ammo is all Russia imported. I am not sure if the DPRK has supplied Russia anything. There are unconfirmed reports of DPRK Howitzers and some SSM's having been supplied, but they remain unconfirmed. DPRK is not in good shape bro. It's just a Chinese military proxy to intimidate SK and Japan. Here in SK/ Japan all the DPRK defectors who take political asylum are malnourished and have stomach parasites (tidd ich keerray) and other easily treatable diseases or medical conditions. China treats the DPRK even worse than the Chinese treat us.

The Russian drone program was not much successful; especially in comparison to the Iranian one. That's why they bought it. They also seemed keen on the Turkish Bayraktar drones but of course they got no for an answer.

 

[Saif]

Iran-Israel tensions: Dhaka wants peace in Middle East

Saying that Bangladesh does not want war in the Middle East, Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud urged the international community to help de-escalate tensions between Iran and Israel

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Iran-Israel tensions: Dhaka wants peace in Middle East

Information Minister Hasan Mahmud. File photo/BSS

Saying that Bangladesh does not want war in the Middle East, Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud urged the international community to help de-escalate tensions between Iran and Israel.

"We are for peace, not war. We want to see countries play an active role in de-escalating tensions [between Iran and Israel]. We also call for an end to the killings in Gaza," he said.

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Hasan Mahmud made the comments when journalists, after an event at the state guest house Padma, asked him about Iran's drone and missile attacks on Israel.

Iran said the attacks were in retaliation for Israel's attacks on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria early April.

Hasan Mahmud said Iran might not have launched the attacks if it was not attacked first.

"We would hope that the states that can play roles would play their roles to de-escalate Iran-Israel tension," Hasan Mahmud said.

When asked about the release of 23 Bangladeshi sailors and the Bangladeshi-flagged ship MV Abdullah from the captivity of pirates, the foreign minister credited the government and others for their efforts.

The ship has advanced 100 nautical miles towards the United Arab Emirates, accompanied by a ship from the European Union, he informed the journalists.

He also thanked the ship-owning company, KSRM, for its active role in releasing the crew and the ship.

He told journalists that nine more members of the Border Guard Police of Myanmar have entered Bangladesh through Southern Myanmar.

Myanmar and Bangladesh are discussing the repatriation of all 180 members of BGP, including those who previously entered Bangladesh during the Myanmar military's conflict with rebel forces, he said.

Earlier, Hasan Mahmud held a meeting with Antigua and Barbuda Foreign Minister EP Chet Greene, who arrived in Dhaka for a five-day visit yesterday.

He said the two countries have discussed cooperation in technology and training in the tourism sector.

He proposed that the Caribbean country can import pharmaceutical products from Bangladesh, which now exports such products to 140 countries including the US, Canada and the EU. They also discussed exporting RMG, ceramics and leather goods from Bangladesh.​

 

[Lulldapull]

The Russian drone program was not much successful; especially in comparison to the Iranian one. That's why they bought it. They also seemed keen on the Turkish Bayraktar drones but of course they got no for an answer.

bhai all these wars in the mideast/ Ukraine have blown a lot of myths right outta de water:

1) Its extremely expensive to wage wars over a long period. 99.9% of global countries can't do it.
2) All legacy weaponry is almost junk now.
3) If you don't have natural resources/ military industrial complexes in your own country, you can't wage war, period.
4) If Irani's have it tough conducting/ orchestrating its military/ security in the region, makes you wonder just how pathetically weak other nations are in our hood.
5) What Iran's been doing/ waging war in the greater ME and projecting its power with its weapons/ proxies, no other regional country can match up to that.
6) Our M-9/ M-11/ Shaheen/ Ghaznavi/ Ghouri/ Nasr missiles will fare a whole lot worse than their Irani counterparts. And by default, we could say the same for their untested Chinese counterparts.
7) Only way R&D happens is via constant wartime testing in real world conditions. This is how Irani's and Russians are getting ahead of all other non western nations in modern weapons.
8) Russian/ Irani Lancets, Kornets, Shahed series drones and SRBM's/ IRBM's are in high demand globally. Can't say the same for Turkish drones anymore.

 

[Saif]

US will not take part in retaliatory action against Iran, White House says

President Joe Biden warned Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the US will not take part in a counter-offensive against Iran if Israel decides to retaliate for a mass drone and missile attack on Israeli territory overnight, a White House official said. The threat of open warfare erupting between the

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US will not take part in retaliatory action against Iran, White House says
REUTERS
Published :
Apr 14, 2024 22:05
Updated :
Apr 14, 2024 22:05

The remains of a rocket booster that, according to Israeli authorities critically injured a 7-year-old girl, after Iran launched drones and missiles towards Israel, near Arad, Israel, April 14, 2024. Photo : Reuters/Christophe van der Perre

President Joe Biden warned Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the US will not take part in a counter-offensive against Iran if Israel decides to retaliate for a mass drone and missile attack on Israeli territory overnight, a White House official said.

The threat of open warfare erupting between the arch Middle East foes and dragging in the United States has put the region on edge, triggering calls for restraint from global powers and Arab nations to avoid further escalation.

US media reported earlier on Sunday that Biden had informed Netanyahu he would not participate in retaliatory action in a phone call overnight. The remarks were confirmed to Reuters by a White House official.

The US will continue to help Israel defend itself, but does not want war, John Kirby, the White House's top national security spokesperson, told ABC's "This Week" program on Sunday.

Iran launched the attack over a suspected Israeli strike on its consulate in Syria on April 1 that killed top Revolutionary Guards commanders and followed months of clashes between Israel and Iran's regional allies, triggered by the war in Gaza.

However, the attack from more than 300 missiles and drones, mostly launched from inside Iran, caused only modest damage in Israel as most were shot down with the help of the U.S., Britain and Jordan.

An Air Force base in southern Israel was hit, but continued to operate as normal and a 7-year old child was seriously hurt by shrapnel. There were no other reports of serious damage.

Two senior Israeli ministers signalled on Sunday that retaliation by Israel is not imminent and it would not act alone.

"We will build a regional coalition and exact the price from Iran in the fashion and timing that is right for us," centrist minister Benny Gantz said ahead of a war cabinet meeting.

Defence Minister Yoav Gallant also said Israel had an opportunity to form a strategic alliance against "against this grave threat by Iran which is threatening to mount nuclear explosives on these missiles, which could be an extremely grave threat," he said. Iran denies seeking nuclear weapons.

Iranian army chief of staff Major General Mohammad Bagheri warned on television that "our response will be much larger than tonight's military action if Israel retaliates against Iran" and told Washington its bases could also be attacked if it helped Israel retaliate.

Iranian Foreign Minister Amir Abdollahian said Tehran had informed the United States its attack on Israel would be "limited" and for self defence and that regional neighbours had also been informed of its planned strikes 72-hours in advance.

A Turkish diplomatic source said Iran had informed Turkey in advance of what would happen.

Iran said the attack was aimed at punishing "Israeli crimes" but it now "deemed the matter concluded."

Russia, China, France and Germany as well as Arab states Egypt, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates urged restraint and the U.N. Security Council was set to meet at 4 pm ET (2000 GMT) on Sunday.

"We will do everything to stop a further escalation," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said on a visit to China. "We can only warn everyone, especially Iran, against continuing this way."

Turkey also warned Iran it did not want further tension in the region.

ESCALATION

Analysts debated how far Iran's attack was calibrated to cause genuine devastation in Israel, or to save face at home after vows of revenge while avoiding a major new war.

"I think the Iranians took into consideration the fact that Israel has a very, very strong multi-layer anti-missile system and they probably took into consideration that there will not be too many casualties," said Sima Shine, a former senior Mossad official at the Institute for National Security Studies in Tel Aviv.

But if Iran was hoping for a muted response, like with its missile attacks on US forces in Iraq after the killing of Guards commander Qassem Soleimani in 2020, she warned "I don't think Israel sees it this way".

On Saturday Iran's Revolutionary Guards seized an Israel-linked cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world's most important energy shipping routes, underscoring the risks to the world economy of a wider conflict.

Some flights were suspended in countries across the region and share prices fell in stock markets in Israel and Gulf states.

The war in Gaza, which Israel invaded after an attack by Iran-backed Hamas on Oct 7, has spread to fronts with Iran-aligned groups in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Iraq.

Iran's most powerful ally in the region, the Lebanese Shi'ite group Hezbollah fired rockets at an Israeli base overnight. Israel said it struck a Hezbollah site deep inside Lebanon on Sunday morning.

Yemen's Houthis, who have been firing missiles at ships in the Red Sea in what they say is support for the Palestinians, called Iran's attack legitimate.

The Oct 7 attack in which Israel says 1,200 were killed and 253 taken hostage, along with internal discontent with the government and international pressure over the war in Gaza, form the backdrop to Netanyahu's decisions over a response. At least 33,000 people have been killed in Gaza since Israel began its military offensive, according to authorities in the enclave.

The Israeli prime minister has for years advocated a tough military line against Iran, pushing the United States for harder action over Tehran's nuclear programme and its backing for Hezbollah, Hamas and other groups in the region.

In Israel, although there was alarm at the first direct attack from another country in more than three decades, the mood was in contrast to the trauma after the Hamas-led attack on Oct7.

"I think we've been given license to respond now. I mean it was a major attack from Iran... I imagine Israel will respond and may be over quickly and get back to normal life," said Jeremy Smith, 60.

In Iran, state television showed small gatherings in several cities celebrating the attack, but in private some Iranians were worried about Israel's response.

"Iran gave Netanyahu a golden opportunity to attack our country. But we, the people of Iran, will bear the brunt of this conflict," said Shima, a 29-year-old nurse, from Tehran.​

 

[Lulldapull]

I was unaware that Iran's gotten back into the Sudan. The side Iran's backing with its drones is not surpisingly winning now. Must be a ploy to set up bases in northern sudan to get a better coverage of the northern red sea and encircle Israel from the SW. Very cunning move by da mulla's:

 

[Lulldapull]

Interesting you say this and not count the Hamas response to Israel as an attack.

Hamas is an Irani proxy. Just like PIJ and PFLP. Now we are discovering that da talibunny are also increasingly on Irani payroll. Soon Iran will toady-fy dem too after putting dem on food n fuel subsidies. That’s just how it works bro…..

 

[Bilal9]

What they're showing on da footage mostly are the decoys being downed. The very specific targeting of the F-35base in the Negev by the Hypersonic missiles and the destruction of the IDF base in the Golan, they will never show.

I heard the same thing. Is-real military/govt. are completely mum about any damage to any airbases or defence installations.

 

[Bilal9]

The word going around is that this wave of Iranian drones and MRBM's was just a "proof of concept" which did not even attempt to destroy most Israeli installations.

 

[Lulldapull]

I heard the same thing. Is-real military/govt. are completely mum about any damage to any airbases or defence installations.

Israel is just not goin sit idly by and swallow this humiliation. There are indications that Netanyahu is furious and planning a retaliation of some sort on his own. He'll try to get even using ISIS-KP or Baluchi terrorists or send in a kill team via Irani Kurdistan. They got terrorist options too.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Iran-Israel tensions: Dhaka wants peace in Middle East

Saying that Bangladesh does not want war in the Middle East, Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud urged the international community to help de-escalate tensions between Iran and Israel

www.thedailystar.net

Iran-Israel tensions: Dhaka wants peace in Middle East
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Information Minister Hasan Mahmud. File photo/BSS

Saying that Bangladesh does not want war in the Middle East, Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud urged the international community to help de-escalate tensions between Iran and Israel.

"We are for peace, not war. We want to see countries play an active role in de-escalating tensions [between Iran and Israel]. We also call for an end to the killings in Gaza," he said.

Google News LinkFor all latest news, follow The Daily Star's Google News channel.

Hasan Mahmud made the comments when journalists, after an event at the state guest house Padma, asked him about Iran's drone and missile attacks on Israel.

Iran said the attacks were in retaliation for Israel's attacks on the Iranian consulate in Damascus, Syria early April.

Hasan Mahmud said Iran might not have launched the attacks if it was not attacked first.

"We would hope that the states that can play roles would play their roles to de-escalate Iran-Israel tension," Hasan Mahmud said.

When asked about the release of 23 Bangladeshi sailors and the Bangladeshi-flagged ship MV Abdullah from the captivity of pirates, the foreign minister credited the government and others for their efforts.

The ship has advanced 100 nautical miles towards the United Arab Emirates, accompanied by a ship from the European Union, he informed the journalists.

He also thanked the ship-owning company, KSRM, for its active role in releasing the crew and the ship.

He told journalists that nine more members of the Border Guard Police of Myanmar have entered Bangladesh through Southern Myanmar.

Myanmar and Bangladesh are discussing the repatriation of all 180 members of BGP, including those who previously entered Bangladesh during the Myanmar military's conflict with rebel forces, he said.

Earlier, Hasan Mahmud held a meeting with Antigua and Barbuda Foreign Minister EP Chet Greene, who arrived in Dhaka for a five-day visit yesterday.

He said the two countries have discussed cooperation in technology and training in the tourism sector.

He proposed that the Caribbean country can import pharmaceutical products from Bangladesh, which now exports such products to 140 countries including the US, Canada and the EU. They also discussed exporting RMG, ceramics and leather goods from Bangladesh.​

completely irrelevant person from an irrelevant country with no leverage making his views known because he has a microphone. If Bangladesh had 30,000 troops in Syria, then this would be worth posting . Otherwise there are a dime a dozen information ministers saying useless things with no leverage

 

[4MikeEcho]

The word going around is that this wave of Iranian drones and MRBM's was just a "proof of concept" which did not even attempt to destroy most Israeli installations.

This has proven that if you give ample warning and launch drones that go at the speed of a car with 6 hours to arrive, then they will all be blown out of the sky.

The warning was not just of the 7 hours, but days since all airspace over Iraq/Syria thats used for international traffic likely had to be cleared and it was communicated with that intent via the Gulf countries.

Militarily also, these slow moving drones did nothing. Easily shot down (probably by equipment that costs 5x or more). I think what would be telling is if a future serious war were to occur between the two, IF Iran has sufficient deployment of these drones closer to border where reaction time is reduced, and/or sufficient numbers of ballistic missiles to overwhelm defenses. That is on the mind of Israeli defenders and Iranian attackers.

 

[4MikeEcho]

May be the parliamentarian should start by calling out his own country's military leadership before going to Jordan

 

[Bilal9]

Israel is just not goin sit idly by and swallow this humiliation. There are indications that Netanyahu is furious and planning a retaliation of some sort on his own. He'll try to get even using ISIS-KP or Baluchi terrorists or send in a kill team via Irani Kurdistan. They got terrorist options too.

Getting mad is one thing - exacting revenge is another.

Daddy Biden is neither happy, nor willing.

Political cost is too high.

 

[Bilal9]

completely irrelevant person from an irrelevant country with no leverage making his views known because he has a microphone. If Bangladesh had 30,000 troops in Syria, then this would be worth posting . Otherwise there are a dime a dozen information ministers saying useless things with no leverage

We all know this. He was asked and he is spewing platitudes in return...

 

[Bilal9]

This has proven that if you give ample warning and launch drones that go at the speed of a car with 6 hours to arrive, then they will all be blown out of the sky.

The warning was not just of the 7 hours, but days since all airspace over Iraq/Syria thats used for international traffic likely had to be cleared and it was communicated with that intent via the Gulf countries.

Militarily also, these slow moving drones did nothing. Easily shot down (probably by equipment that costs 5x or more). I think what would be telling is if a future serious war were to occur between the two, IF Iran has sufficient deployment of these drones closer to border where reaction time is reduced, and/or sufficient numbers of ballistic missiles to overwhelm defenses. That is on the mind of Israeli defenders and Iranian attackers.

My point exactly. If you give seven days warning, then you are just trying to save face to your allies. Just like last time in Iraq after the Soleimani debacle.

 

[Lulldapull]

Netanyahu is being investigated for massive corruption nepotism fraud and what not. Gaza campaign is a total failure. Whole world saw Israel’s ugly face in the last 6 months. He’s going to get desperate and make a wrong move soon. And when he makes that bad decision it’s going to just get worse for his settler colonial state. If Hezb goes in from da north and makes a 300 km incursion and holds it on a death grip and simultaneously the Iraqi PMU’s and Syrians go deep in da Golan and beyond, and hold it…..the Israelis will totally fukkin panic! It would be like da Tet offensive of Vietnam era…….iran keeps on firing missiles n drones…..the state of Israel is kaput guys. All Iran has to do is to allow millions of our jihadis in and just watch and eat popcorn on de fence. The only issue then becomes whether the west will bring in its own boots on da ground. I’m 100% sure that the evangelical X-tian Christy jihadists will pour into Israel to fight to da death. Christy X-tian evangelist Armageddonist apocalyptic cult wants to build da third temple of Solomon. And await da arrival of da anti-Christ and da maseeha….

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran can keep doin dis using its toady everywhere who make rockets from sugar and syrup and fertilizer. Launch thousands of them on Israel every day and it will be all over quick guys.

 

[Lulldapull]

Guys check da news….netanyahu’s ass was busted open by dis Irani attack big time! The two targets which Iran was intending to destroy have been blown to smithereens….…..I wonder how many hypersonics wrecked that F-35 base deep in the Negev desert and that Golani HQ overlooking Syria has been totally demolished! Basically the whole myth of iron dumb dumb and arrow missiles and Aegis deployed off da coast of Israel and THAAD and what not has been destroyed too. Iran nay putloon uttar dee hae Israel key in front of everyone. …..Netanyahu sahb is under huge pressure now to retaliate. He’s getting ready to do it any moment. I bet money the Mossad and CIA will tap ISIS-Kp soon to carry out an attack inside Iran using afghani or balochi terrorists. Netanyahu is furious.

 

[Lulldapull]

 

[ThunderCat]

8) Russian/ Irani Lancets, Kornets, Shahed series drones and SRBM's/ IRBM's are in high demand globally. Can't say the same for Turkish drones anymore.

Yes because of the price. As you probably already mentioned.

 

[4MikeEcho]

I would like to believe this but none of us can be sure the actual extent of the damage. The Israelis for sure will never admit as it would give validity to which of the projectiles got through.

And the Iranians for their part of have a carefully calibrated response for which they sent ample warning 48 hours before and then launch motorcycle drones that almost guaranteed the coordinated arrival time of the ballistic missiles, will not want to advertise so as not to let the situation escalate. This is an unusual situation that even an attacker will not admit the damage.

Unless by some miracle , open source information surfaces, we will not know for sure, but we do know that it took US, Israel, and the traitor Jordanians full coordination to prevent against a well announced attack.

I doubt 3-4 warheads are enough to put an air base out of commission. But if 3-4 could get through then in a well meaning surprise attack, 35 may get through and cause some realistic damage.

Would Israel been as successful on its own is unknown?

What is also known is if you throw enough surface to surface, even when enemy is expecting it, some will make it through

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[4MikeEcho]

By posting, I am not endorsing this source, but even Israeli press is admitting both bases were hit and infrastructure and an aircraft damaged.

They claim that only 1% of missiles made it. May or may not be true.

But one take away I have is that while Iran is telling the US that its trying to avoid fighting the US and any assistance to Israel would mean retaliation, I think its more intended towards the neigbhors.

If Israeli aircraft cross Jordan and Jordan allows it, then Amman had better be ready. And if they overfly Saudi Arabia, then Saudis better be ready. And neither of these countries will have the protective umbrella (or the warning) that Israel had so it will be a 90% success rate of the projectiles.

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U.S. Reports: Half of Iranian Ballistic Missiles Failed, Aircraft Damaged in Israeli Air Force Base; UAE, Saudis Shared Intel[
U.S. officials told ABC News and the Wall Street Journal that five ballistic missiles hit the southern Nevatim Air Base, damaging a transport plane, and four hit another base. Under U.S. pressure, UAE and Saudi Arabia shared Iran's attack plans before strike
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The Nevatim Air Force base in southern Israel, on Sunday.Credit: Eliyahu Hershkovitz

HaaretzReutersThe Associated Press

Apr 15, 2024 1:38 pm IDT


Two Israeli air bases were struck by at least nine Iranian missiles that penetrated Israel's air defense systems, causing damage to one transport plane, a senior U.S. official told ABC News on Monday.

Five ballistic missiles hit the southern Nevatim Air Base, the official said, damaging a C-130 transport plane, an unused runway and empty warehouses. Four additional ballistic missiles struck the Negev Air Base, but no significant damage was reported, he added.


According to the official, many Iranian ballistic missiles launched at Israel did not reach their destination, either due to failing during launch or malfunctioning during flight.


Similar claims were made by three U.S. officials, who told the Wall Street Journal on Monday that about half of all ballistic missiles fired at Israel - between 115 and 130 - failed to launch or crashed before reaching their targets.



According to another Wall Street Journal report, also from Monday, two days before attacking Israel, Iranian officials informed their counterparts in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states about the planned offensive so that they could protect their airspace.


Egyptian and Saudi Arabian sources that spoke with the Wall Street Journal, said that several Arab governments feared that assisting Israel would result in a fallout with Iran, but following talks with the U.S., Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates secretly agreed to share their intelligence.


The report also said that Jordan allowed use of its airspace by the U.S. and other countries involved in the defensive, and also used its own aircraft to assist in intercepting Iranian missiles and drones.



U.S. forces, supported by U.S. European Command destroyers, destroyed more than 80 one-way attack drones and at least six ballistic missiles aimed at Israel from Iran and Yemenovernight into Sunday, the U.S. Central Command said on Monday.



This includes a ballistic missile on its launcher vehicle and seven UAVs destroyed on the ground prior to their launch in areas controlled by Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, CENTCOM said.

On Sunday, the IDF spokesperson said on Sunday that 99 percent of all drones and rockets Iran launched at Israel, including 120 ballistic missiles and more than 30 cruise missiles, were intercepted by Israel's air defense system and Israeli Air Force fighter jets, as well as "aerial defense systems and aircraft of our partners."


The attack marked the first time Iran has launched a direct military assault on Israel, despite decades of enmity dating back to the country's 1979 Islamic Revolution. Condemnation from the United Nations chief and others was swift, with France saying Iran "is risking a potential military escalation," Britain calling the attack "reckless" and Germany saying Iran and its proxies "must stop it immediately."


Iran had vowed revenge since an April 1 airstrike in Syria killed two Iranian generals inside an Iranian consular building. Iran accused Israel of being behind the attack. Israel hasn't commented on it.

Israel and Iran have been on a collision course throughout Israel's six-month war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Almost immediately after the war erupted, Hezbollah, an Iranian-backed group in Lebanon, began attacking Israel's northern border. The two sides have been involved in daily exchanges of fire, while Iranian-backed groups in Iraq, Syria and Yemen have launched rockets and missiles toward Israel