South Asia Modi vs. Trump

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Sharma Ji]

we wish you a sanghi christmas

we wish you a sanghi christmas

and a dharmi new year !

 

[Bilal9]

Ofcourse they will decide what is good for them. That is why I quoted US president Trump and what he said about Indians. You have the right to defy what I say like you deliver your judgement on Shaikh Hasina.

Let me tell you, world don't think in the way like Bangladeshi and Pakistani think. They see their interest first. They won't think in radical way like let anything happen to country but we won't do something. Pakistan put a ban on import from India. Today they have ended up importing Indian goods via UAE at higher rate.

Those Indians who are not highly educated also has a great conversation in US economy. For example Over 50% of US's motels are owned by Gujaratis. There is even a big demand for construction workers of India in various countries. Post Hamas attack, many construction workers from UP have gone to Israel for construction. Israel has asked for more workers. Whosoever works sincerely without any nuisance value are welcome everywhere. Today, even gulf countries don't want Pakistanis who happened to be their favorites.

Your supposition that Bangladeshi and Pakistani people have some imaginary higher 'nuisance value' than Indians is highly questionable and also objectionable. I don't know what you base this on (really am not interested to find out) but your religious bias is apparent. you are taking a page from the RSS Shakha propaganda manual.

Mehnati underclass workaday people in Bangladesh and Pakistan have the same goal as their equivalents in India - they want to earn a few halal well-earned dirhams/euros to feed their family back home and raise educated children. Sweat of the brow - literally, in the gulf, or Malaysia, or S'pore.

I don't know why this would be any different.

No one outside of India considers Indian unskilled laborers as any more 'noble' than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. It's all in your head.

The bigger problem is that desperation makes these poor people (from all desi countries) lie through their teeth on their skills and aptitude. Maybe Higher class Indians are used to this fraud and cheatery, but it is not the norm overseas. Especially in 1st world countries like Israel.

Indian laborers or even Patel-ka-motel people are not God's gift to any 1st or even 2nd world country. The patels are getting an opportunity to make a better living because of grace and tolerance in Western countries who take pity on them, no one in the West "needs" their services. There is no "dependency", unlike what your Bhishwaguru Modiji says.

Unskilled and uneducated third-worlders (like most uneducated Indians are) are a scourge and a nuisance to Westerners. They just tolerate these people for now and when they get sick of them they will kick them out. Like what Trumpji is doing right now.

I can understand your need for respect/recognition and being the third world country India is, to hide faults and present it in the best possible light as an Indian, but claiming that India is all of a sudden some skills powerhouse - sending people to Israel who "didn't know how to hold a hammer" is not going to brighten the image of India overseas. To the contrary it is going reinforce the reputation of India (already established) as largely a nation of underclass liars and cheats.

Maybe this is a problem with all South Asian countries, but only Indians try to hide their warts/faults and pretend that theirs is a first world country, until things start to unravel like I've seen with liar H1Bs and laborers from India. To date, I have only seen @Sharma Ji admit this and I respect him for it.

Take a look, there's more behind the paywall.

‘Faulty’ selection, lack of skills: Showpiece Israeli job scheme for Indians begins to unravel

Israeli contractors despair, redeploy staff: ‘Some didn’t know how to hold a hammer’; officials here admit ‘scope for improvement’ in screening process.

indianexpress.com

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‘Faulty’ selection, lack of skills: Showpiece Israeli job scheme for Indians begins to unravel​

Israeli contractors despair, redeploy staff: ‘Some didn’t know how to hold a hammer’; officials here admit ‘scope for improvement’ in screening process.​

Written by Ritu Sarin

New Delhi | Updated: September 10, 2024 22:59 IST

8 min read

Igal Slovik, CEO of Israel Builders Association, with Indian workers in Israel
* Chote Lal Bind (42), a mason from UP’s Jaunpur, reached Israel in July for construction work after clearing a 15-minute plastering test in Lucknow. He was sacked after 12 days following an “altercation with a Chinese foreman”. He got a job as a cleaner at a cosmetics factory near Jerusalem for Rs 800 an hour. “It’s not what I came for,” he said.

* Veena Nath Gupta (45), from UP’s Mau, was also selected for construction work in Israel after a “skill test” in Lucknow. He reached the country in April, and was moved to different cities. “I don’t even know where I am now. It’s somewhere near Tel Aviv. I am working as a labourer, mostly carrying loads,” he said."

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Your supposition that Bangladeshi and Pakistani people have some imaginary higher 'nuisance value' than Indians is highly questionable and also objectionable.

I have not said that. However, those who so ever work sincerely are respected. Why gulf countries today do not prefer Pakistani worker inspite of having lots of sympathy?

No one outside of India considers Indian unskilled laborers as any more 'noble' than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. It's all in your head.

That is what you say. There are more than half of the work force from India in many countries. Why do not they employ BD and Pakistani workers instead.

If somebody goes by false declaration, they will be sent back. It is not a serious crime. That happens with every other labor. What is a judging criterion is how you guys are perceived in general. If they want to employe you in preference of others? If answer is yes, then you are preferred guys. If answer is no, you are not preferred guys. Answer for Indian people is big yes.

 

[Bilal9]

Trump is very transactional, all he wants is business deals. He also gets along well with strongmen so he likes him a bit, both are kinda megalomaniacs.

Overall, India, I don't think is too high on Trump's list of priorities. Iran and the (((middle east))) in general is where his focus will be, and his porus southern border.

Illegal Indian immigrants are also increasingly going that route. They keep getting caught, rounded up, and soundly deported, as they should be.

The software coolie thing is waning, has been for a while.. its not the 90s anymore, toto.

They skimming the cream from our IITs and IIMs.. many get a very decent 200k "package" for starters, 0.3% of some will make it to a Nadella level.

Other industrious (Punjabis mostly) will snake their way into the rust belt and roorill ummrika and open a motel, truck stop, 7/11.. usual garbage.. some actually flower !



this whole "doctors and engineers" is a lie, while it is true that there are many... but not many gonna make it that far.

Overall a good lot, the desis, no much into gangs, drugs running, crime etc (too pussy for that lol)

@Bilal9 .. aap batao what you see

@Guru Dutt @Paitoo @Vsdoc

Punjabis opening a truck stop may be a thing - but I see more Punjabis owning Semi Trucks (Tractors) and employing local Mexicans to haul loads with these things.

The central valley (agricultural heartland of California north of Bakersville) is where lots of Sardarjis emigrated past WWII (maybe because they WERE truck drivers for US army at that time, who knows). But they own vegetable farms and whole communities now in that area which supplies the entire Western US with produce and vegetables. They are massive Trucker company owners in that area now too. You can see about a dozen Gurdwaras within a mile in that area.

The place is filled with Gurdwaras - the first one was the Stockton Gurdwara which was an agricultural community. As we all know - trucking is connected intimately with Agriculture, whether in India or in California.

Punjabi Sikhs now dominate both industries and sectors.

The oldest Sikh temple in the US is located in Stockton