South Asia Modi vs. Trump

[Bilal9]

Date Occurred: Dec 25, 2024

Modi has stand strong against them without openly opposing them He bought oil and weapons inspite of caatsa He mocked caatsa infact.

I suspect Modi does not have the wherewithal to stand against the US, they are already targeting his main financier Adani. Fact. How long can he last - realistically?

All the US needs to start doing (Biden and Trump are all in the same boat on this) is deport Indian visa overstayers en masse and start cancelling IT Backoffice contracts, then you will see a change in tune in India.

BD regime change was orchestrated deep state to curve out a Christian nation.

The word here is "carve out"...

And I am confused - on the one hand Indian media (and BJP leaders/diplomats) accuses Dr. Yunus of siding with Islamists (and presumably - Jihadists) but you are saying there will be a Christian nation.

Where exactly?

 

[Bilal9]

It will be a surprise if US deep state stop doing such conspiracy. US deep state is a curse on humanity. All civilized forces should ally to finish deep states and its functionaries in the leadership of Russia. No other country has batter exposure and experience in handling deep state and US than Russia. Deep state alone has created more anarchy than all other anarchist of the world. They are trying their best to destabilize India by future nding traitors like Rahul Gandhi, Kejariwal,etc. BD regime change was orchestrated deep state to curve out a Christian nation. China and Russia are lucky in a way that they don't have elected presidents or P.M. As a result of which deep state acting through their agents is very less.

Badmouthing the US is shooting themselves in their own foot by Indians.

Indian rooti-ruji of late is entirely thanks to the US. All those shiny new Backoffice buildings in Gurgaon, Navi Mumbai, Hyderabad, Bangalore - all Thanks to the US. Once US help is gone, back to Hindu rate of 3% growth.

Hindu rate of growth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I suspect Modi does not have the wherewithal to stand against the US, they are already targeting his main financier Adani. Fact. How long can he last - realistically?

All the US needs to start doing (Biden and Trump are all in the same boat on this) is deport Indian visa overstayers en masse and start cancelling IT Backoffice contracts, then you will see a change in tune in India.


The word here is "carve out"...

And I am confused - on the one hand Indian media (and BJP leaders/diplomats) accuses Dr. Yunus of siding with Islamists (and presumably - Jihadists) but you are saying there will be a Christian nation.

Where exactly?

Any IT related restrictions on India is suicidal. It will be counter productive to the interest of US.

So far as regime change is concerned, curbing out a Christian nation is not my imagination. It is shaikh Hasina who said that a Hora (She did not give the name) came to her and asked for a place called saint martin Island fro BD. He said that Hasina should hand it over to US and enjoy remaining in power or get ready to be toppled. She denied so her ouster was engineered. All subsequent events confirms what she said. Recently US NSA visited BD. US supported new BD regime. All who had serious terrorism charges were released from jail. You just wait and watch for some time to confirm what I say.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Badmouthing the US is shooting themselves in their own foot by Indians.

Indian rooti-ruji of late is entirely thanks to the US. All those shiny new Backoffice buildings in Gurgaon, Navi Mumbai, Hyderabad, Bangalore - all Thanks to the US. Once US help is gone, back to Hindu rate of 3% growth.

Hindu rate of growth - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is US which is run by Indians. If they restricts Indians, their country will go down like anything. You might have heard Donald trum saying that US should stop Indian students to go back to India at any cost. He said that they are genius and they created vibrant startups. If they go back, they will do all this in Banglore or Hyderabad and do that instead of instead of US.

What I want to say is that they do not do all what you is out of love for India it is compulsion for them. They need Indians more than what India them.

 

[Bilal9]

It is US which is run by Indians. If they restricts Indians, their country will go down like anything. You might have heard Donald trum saying that US should stop Indian students to go back to India at any cost. He said that they are genius and they created vibrant startups. If they go back, they will do all this in Banglore or Hyderabad and do that instead of instead of US.

What I want to say is that they do not do all what you is out of love for India it is compulsion for them. They need Indians more than what India them.

Have you ever been to the US? Just curious.

There are two types of Indians in the US.

One type are citizens who became highly educated in the US (usually masters level) and lead major companies. They come from upper middle class families and have a largely open-minded outlook. These are the people the US wants to keep.

The second type are cringe-worthy semi-educated people from India who are unfit for settling in any foreign country other than India. They defy civilized behavior, defy rules of decency and hygiene. They want to make the US and Canada just like the ghettos they came from in India. These are the people the US wants to restrict.

By the way - here is the back lash on twitter by MAGA people on Sriram Krishnan - that new AI guy chosen by Trump.

They are calling him all sorts of names.

MSN

 

[Bilal9]

This is what white MAGA people in the US think of Indians and their leadership in the US. Thanks Indians for spoiling it for the rest of us South Asians.​

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MAGA up in arms against Sriram Krishnan as H-1B divides Trump supporters​

MSN

 

[Bilal9]

Any IT related restrictions on India is suicidal. It will be counter productive to the interest of US.

So far as regime change is concerned, curbing out a Christian nation is not my imagination. It is shaikh Hasina who said that a Hora (She did not give the name) came to her and asked for a place called saint martin Island fro BD. He said that Hasina should hand it over to US and enjoy remaining in power or get ready to be toppled. She denied so her ouster was engineered. All subsequent events confirms what she said. Recently US NSA visited BD. US supported new BD regime. All who had serious terrorism charges were released from jail. You just wait and watch for some time to confirm what I say.

Can you let the US decide on what is suicidal for them or not?

And not quote that thief and serial liar Hasina? She laundered and exfiltrated Billions of dollars out of Bangladesh which is a poor nation. What legitimacy does she have to even open her mouth? Just because she was giving Modi part of her stolen proceeds?

Indians are just providing a value-added service to the US, Backoffice is not rocket science, which (though difficult to change) can easily be transferred to other nations. The talent that Indians provide are not unique.

To think that the US is dependent on India is just BJP propaganda, I'm afraid. Most people in the US (even those Indian IT leaders in the US) will be mildly amused at this suggestion.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Have you ever been to the US? Just curious.

There are two types of Indians in the US.

One type are citizens who became highly educated in the US (usually masters level) and lead major companies. They come from upper middle class families and have a largely open-minded outlook. These are the people the US wants to keep.

The second type are cringe-worthy semi-educated people from India who are unfit for settling in any foreign country other than India. They defy civilized behavior, defy rules of decency and hygiene. They want to make the US and Canada just like the ghettos they came from in India. These are the people the US wants to restrict.

By the way - here is the back lash on twitter by MAGA people on Sriram Krishnan - that new AI guy chosen by Trump.

They are calling him all sorts of names.

MSN

That is true for every ethnicity including original Americans. So your point?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Can you let the US decide on what is suicidal for them or not?

And not quote that thief and serial liar Hasina? She laundered and exfiltrated Billions of dollars out of Bangladesh which is a poor nation. What legitimacy does she have to even open her mouth? Just because she was giving Modi part of her stolen proceeds?

Indians are just providing a value-added service to the US, Backoffice is not rocket science, which (though difficult to change) can easily be transferred to other nations. The talent that Indians provide are not unique.

To think that the US is dependent on India is just BJP propaganda, I'm afraid. Most people in the US (even those Indian IT leaders in the US) will be mildly amused at this suggestion.

Ofcourse they will decide what is good for them. That is why I quoted US president Trump and what he said about Indians. You have the right to defy what I say like you deliver your judgement on Shaikh Hasina.

Let me tell you, world don't think in the way like Bangladeshi and Pakistani think. They see their interest first. They won't think in radical way like let anything happen to country but we won't do something. Pakistan put a ban on import from India. Today they have ended up importing Indian goods via UAE at higher rate.

Those Indians who are not highly educated also has a great conversation in US economy. For example Over 50% of US's motels are owned by Gujaratis. There is even a big demand for construction workers of India in various countries. Post Hamas attack, many construction workers from UP have gone to Israel for construction. Israel has asked for more workers. Whosoever works sincerely without any nuisance value are welcome everywhere. Today, even gulf countries don't want Pakistanis who happened to be their favorites.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Trump is very transactional, all he wants is business deals. He also gets along well with strongmen so he likes him a bit, both are kinda megalomaniacs.

Overall, India, I don't think is too high on Trump's list of priorities. Iran and the (((middle east))) in general is where his focus will be, and his porus southern border.

Illegal Indian immigrants are also increasingly going that route. They keep getting caught, rounded up, and soundly deported, as they should be.

The software coolie thing is waning, has been for a while.. its not the 90s anymore, toto.

They skimming the cream from our IITs and IIMs.. many get a very decent 200k "package" for starters, 0.3% of some will make it to a Nadella level.

Other industrious (Punjabis mostly) will snake their way into the rust belt and roorill ummrika and open a motel, truck stop, 7/11.. usual garbage.. some actually flower !



this whole "doctors and engineers" is a lie, while it is true that there are many... but not many gonna make it that far.

Overall a good lot, the desis, no much into gangs, drugs running, crime etc (too pussy for that lol)

@Bilal9 .. aap batao what you see

@Guru Dutt @Paitoo V @Vsdoc

 

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Sharma Ji]

we wish you a sanghi christmas

we wish you a sanghi christmas

and a dharmi new year !

 

[Bilal9]

Ofcourse they will decide what is good for them. That is why I quoted US president Trump and what he said about Indians. You have the right to defy what I say like you deliver your judgement on Shaikh Hasina.

Let me tell you, world don't think in the way like Bangladeshi and Pakistani think. They see their interest first. They won't think in radical way like let anything happen to country but we won't do something. Pakistan put a ban on import from India. Today they have ended up importing Indian goods via UAE at higher rate.

Those Indians who are not highly educated also has a great conversation in US economy. For example Over 50% of US's motels are owned by Gujaratis. There is even a big demand for construction workers of India in various countries. Post Hamas attack, many construction workers from UP have gone to Israel for construction. Israel has asked for more workers. Whosoever works sincerely without any nuisance value are welcome everywhere. Today, even gulf countries don't want Pakistanis who happened to be their favorites.

Your supposition that Bangladeshi and Pakistani people have some imaginary higher 'nuisance value' than Indians is highly questionable and also objectionable. I don't know what you base this on (really am not interested to find out) but your religious bias is apparent. you are taking a page from the RSS Shakha propaganda manual.

Mehnati underclass workaday people in Bangladesh and Pakistan have the same goal as their equivalents in India - they want to earn a few halal well-earned dirhams/euros to feed their family back home and raise educated children. Sweat of the brow - literally, in the gulf, or Malaysia, or S'pore.

I don't know why this would be any different.

No one outside of India considers Indian unskilled laborers as any more 'noble' than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. It's all in your head.

The bigger problem is that desperation makes these poor people (from all desi countries) lie through their teeth on their skills and aptitude. Maybe Higher class Indians are used to this fraud and cheatery, but it is not the norm overseas. Especially in 1st world countries like Israel.

Indian laborers or even Patel-ka-motel people are not God's gift to any 1st or even 2nd world country. The patels are getting an opportunity to make a better living because of grace and tolerance in Western countries who take pity on them, no one in the West "needs" their services. There is no "dependency", unlike what your Bhishwaguru Modiji says.

Unskilled and uneducated third-worlders (like most uneducated Indians are) are a scourge and a nuisance to Westerners. They just tolerate these people for now and when they get sick of them they will kick them out. Like what Trumpji is doing right now.

I can understand your need for respect/recognition and being the third world country India is, to hide faults and present it in the best possible light as an Indian, but claiming that India is all of a sudden some skills powerhouse - sending people to Israel who "didn't know how to hold a hammer" is not going to brighten the image of India overseas. To the contrary it is going reinforce the reputation of India (already established) as largely a nation of underclass liars and cheats.

Maybe this is a problem with all South Asian countries, but only Indians try to hide their warts/faults and pretend that theirs is a first world country, until things start to unravel like I've seen with liar H1Bs and laborers from India. To date, I have only seen @Sharma Ji admit this and I respect him for it.

Take a look, there's more behind the paywall.

‘Faulty’ selection, lack of skills: Showpiece Israeli job scheme for Indians begins to unravel

Israeli contractors despair, redeploy staff: ‘Some didn’t know how to hold a hammer’; officials here admit ‘scope for improvement’ in screening process.

indianexpress.com

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‘Faulty’ selection, lack of skills: Showpiece Israeli job scheme for Indians begins to unravel​

Israeli contractors despair, redeploy staff: ‘Some didn’t know how to hold a hammer’; officials here admit ‘scope for improvement’ in screening process.​

Written by Ritu Sarin

New Delhi | Updated: September 10, 2024 22:59 IST

8 min read

Igal Slovik, CEO of Israel Builders Association, with Indian workers in Israel
* Chote Lal Bind (42), a mason from UP’s Jaunpur, reached Israel in July for construction work after clearing a 15-minute plastering test in Lucknow. He was sacked after 12 days following an “altercation with a Chinese foreman”. He got a job as a cleaner at a cosmetics factory near Jerusalem for Rs 800 an hour. “It’s not what I came for,” he said.

* Veena Nath Gupta (45), from UP’s Mau, was also selected for construction work in Israel after a “skill test” in Lucknow. He reached the country in April, and was moved to different cities. “I don’t even know where I am now. It’s somewhere near Tel Aviv. I am working as a labourer, mostly carrying loads,” he said."

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Your supposition that Bangladeshi and Pakistani people have some imaginary higher 'nuisance value' than Indians is highly questionable and also objectionable.

I have not said that. However, those who so ever work sincerely are respected. Why gulf countries today do not prefer Pakistani worker inspite of having lots of sympathy?

No one outside of India considers Indian unskilled laborers as any more 'noble' than Pakistanis or Bangladeshis. It's all in your head.

That is what you say. There are more than half of the work force from India in many countries. Why do not they employ BD and Pakistani workers instead.

If somebody goes by false declaration, they will be sent back. It is not a serious crime. That happens with every other labor. What is a judging criterion is how you guys are perceived in general. If they want to employe you in preference of others? If answer is yes, then you are preferred guys. If answer is no, you are not preferred guys. Answer for Indian people is big yes.

 

[Bilal9]

Trump is very transactional, all he wants is business deals. He also gets along well with strongmen so he likes him a bit, both are kinda megalomaniacs.

Overall, India, I don't think is too high on Trump's list of priorities. Iran and the (((middle east))) in general is where his focus will be, and his porus southern border.

Illegal Indian immigrants are also increasingly going that route. They keep getting caught, rounded up, and soundly deported, as they should be.

The software coolie thing is waning, has been for a while.. its not the 90s anymore, toto.

They skimming the cream from our IITs and IIMs.. many get a very decent 200k "package" for starters, 0.3% of some will make it to a Nadella level.

Other industrious (Punjabis mostly) will snake their way into the rust belt and roorill ummrika and open a motel, truck stop, 7/11.. usual garbage.. some actually flower !



this whole "doctors and engineers" is a lie, while it is true that there are many... but not many gonna make it that far.

Overall a good lot, the desis, no much into gangs, drugs running, crime etc (too pussy for that lol)

@Bilal9 .. aap batao what you see

@Guru Dutt @Paitoo V @Vsdoc

Punjabis opening a truck stop may be a thing - but I see more Punjabis owning Semi Trucks (Tractors) and employing local Mexicans to haul loads with these things.

The central valley (agricultural heartland of California north of Bakersville) is where lots of Sardarjis emigrated past WWII (maybe because they WERE truck drivers for US army at that time, who knows). But they own vegetable farms and whole communities now in that area which supplies the entire Western US with produce and vegetables. They are massive Trucker company owners in that area now too. You can see about a dozen Gurdwaras within a mile in that area.

The place is filled with Gurdwaras - the first one was the Stockton Gurdwara which was an agricultural community. As we all know - trucking is connected intimately with Agriculture, whether in India or in California.

Punjabi Sikhs now dominate both industries and sectors.

The oldest Sikh temple in the US is located in Stockton