[🇵🇰] The Great Game: The Soviet KGB And Pakistan

[Old School]

 

[Lulldapull]

My father was in the Navy at that time, and he, too, was based in EP. I know the facts. There would not have been any issues if they had only handed over power to the election winner, Mujib. They did not, and they are still doing the same with Imran Khan.

We never killed, we never raped we never pillaged we never burnt down their villages.

Can you imagine mostly mazhabi/ indoctrinated log doing these things in our army?

No way bro!.... A mazhabi guy can never do those things were accused of doing in East Pakistan.

We've been framed. From day dot.

 

[Old School]

We never killed, we never raped we never pillaged we never burnt down their villages.

Can you imagine mostly mazhabi log doing these things in our army?

No way bro!

We've been framed. From day dot.

The point is that the semi-educated Jarnails didn't want to hand over power to a popular civilian whom, despite election win, they could not control like a puppet. Imran Khan has already proved this point to everyone.

 

[TheNewb77]

We never killed, we never raped we never pillaged we never burnt down their villages.

Can you imagine mostly mazhabi/ indoctrinated log doing these things in our army?

No way bro!.... A mazhabi guy can never do those things were accused of doing in East Pakistan.

We've been framed. From day dot.

You must come to the point of understanding and realize that the top general class is under the foot of Washington, this is not up for argument at this point anymore, it is a known fact and easily proven.

Can you imagine mostly mazhabi/ indoctrinated log doing these things in our army?

You cannot blame the regular army folks who are mostly proud and strong Muslims doing what they think is to protect Pakistan. The elite generals are sold out. Come to and realize this conclusion.

 

[Lulldapull]

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You must come to the point of understanding and realize that the top general class is under the foot of Washington, this is not up for argument at this point anymore, it is a known fact and easily proven.


You cannot blame the regular army folks who are mostly proud and strong Muslims doing what they think is to protect Pakistan. They elite generals are sold out. Come to and realize this conclusion.

We killed just a few hundred trouble maker rioters in totality and the communists and Indians said we killed and raped millions!

We were told to lose our eastern half of our country. Everyone’s been fooled into believing propaganda.


Nixon haramzada betrayed us as per yahya khan and Gen Niazi.

We’ve been betrayed! Our army never did nothing it’s being accused of.

How could just 50k regulars rape 3 million women in a period of 6 months? Its impossible!

We’ve been had guys.

 

[Old School]

You must come to the point of understanding and realize that the top general class is under the foot of Washington, this is not up for argument at this point anymore, it is a known fact and easily proven.


You cannot blame the regular army folks who are mostly proud and strong Muslims doing what they think is to protect Pakistan. The elite generals are sold out. Come to and realize this conclusion.

When you read the books written by Henry Kissinger and another American statesman, you will know how much our jarnails are sold out to the Yankees. This must stop if we want to save the country.

 

[Old School]

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We killed just a few hundred trouble maker rioters in totality and the communists and Indians said we killed and raped millions!

We were told to lose our eastern half of our country. Everyone’s been fooled into believing propaganda.

Nixon haramzada betrayed us as per yahya khan and Gen Niazi.

We’ve been betrayed! Our army never did nothing it’s being accused of.

I'd like you to please read our own Hamoodur Rehman commission report, which is still sealed by the army from being published. A lot more happened than you know.

 

[Delta2]

Only if we knew about some of the conversations of some Pakistani generals in the 1950s!

 

[Delta2]

I'd like you to please read our own Hamoodur Rehman commission report, which is still sealed by the army from being published. A lot more happened than you know.

Mathematically speaking, someone had suggested in the past that the then West Pakistani forces would have to have been killing/raping someone every 2 minutes for the claimed numbers of millions to be reached.

 

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A modern state doesn't work in the villagers' analogy. Look at Alaska, Siberia, Greenland, Sabah-Sarwak in Malaysia, and Indonesia, where one part is a thousand or more miles apart from the other end. The army made a blunder and justified it later by teaching fairytales to the naive population, which they still do. They are again destroying this country the same way. Look, they jailed Imran Khan just because someone told the court that the marriage was invalid; otherwise, it is an entirely legal marriage in any civil law. Our people are ignorant and pass their exams by cheating. These uneducated or miseducated people will believe anything they are told by the establishment.

When its not Jinnah's fault he gave us something, and we failed to make it work. lol.

 

[Old School]

Mathematically speaking, someone had suggested in the past that the then West Pakistani forces would have to have been killing/raping someone every 2 minutes for the claimed numbers of millions to be reached.

That number claim was originally fabricated iby Soviet KGB who used to manage the exiled BD government based in India in 1971. We need to disregard the number. Even one rape is too many.

 

[Old School]

When its not Jinnah's fault he gave us something, and we failed to make it work. lol.

Jinnah has been watching how his hard earned nation is being doomed by semi-educated government employees. Which modern and civilized country is ruled by Army who are in fact government employees paid by public ? Such countries would be Uganda or Egypt in Africa.

 

[Delta2]

That number claim was originally fabricated iby Soviet KGB who used to manage the exiled BD government based in India in 1971. We need to disregard the number. Even one rape is too many.

If a claim of millions rapes and murders is false, then surely a claim of one rape or murder can be false too.

It really is the principle.

 

[Delta2]

Jinnah has been watching how his hard earned nation is being doomed by semi-educated government employees. Which modern and civilized country is ruled by Army who are in fact government employees paid by public ? Such countries would be Uganda or Egypt in Africa.

Almost ALL modern states are ruled by a traditional deeply rooted bureaucracy or a Military Industrial Complex with strict red lines. What sets the successful ones apart is the rule of law. The failed and messed up ones have no concept of law and order, punishing crooks/thieves/mafias, discipline, transparency or priortization of important interests.

It would be foolish to assume that a state like Pakistan with piles and piles of all types deadly weapons is, or should be, left to the random whims of a poorly educatedd populace.

 

[Old School]

Almost ALL modern states are ruled by a traditional deeply rooted bureaucracy or a Military Industrial Complex with strict red lines. What sets the successful ones apart is the rule of law. The failed and messed up ones have no concept of law and order, punishing crooks/thieves/mafias, discipline, transparency or priortization of important interests.

It would be foolish to assume that a state like Pakistan with piles and piles of all types deadly weapons is, or should be, left to the random whims of a poorly educatedd populace.

Military officers in Pakistan, in general, are undereducated (usually have a BA equivalence). Instead, the Civil service has more educated people, many with western Ph.D, but they work under incompetent ministers groomed by generals.
I know this fact firsthand. Real-educated Pakistanis don't live in Pakistan. I was lucky to realize that fact much earlier and left the country earlier than many.
Of course, if you ask this question to plain BA degree holders, they won't know that as it sounds Chinese to them. In academia, a BA is almost like a high school diploma.