[🇵🇰-Airforce] Pakistan to Get Chinese-Made Shenyang J-35 Fifth-Gen Fighter Aircraft Within 24 Months

[Krishna with Flute]

Nice opinion, please elaborate.

Because China has a track record of buying defence stuff which they had declared inferior to Chinese stuff. For example buying Su30 when they had J10, Buying Su35 when they had fifth generation plane J20,. They said that their HQ 9 is superior to S300 and S400 but ultimately bought Russian stuff. In past, same was the case with submarine as well. China exported JF17 to Pakistan but continued with old Mig21 but didn't induct JF17.

 

[Lulldapull]

Because China has a track record of buying defence stuff which they had declared inferior to Chinese stuff. For example buying Su30 when they had J10, Buying Su35 when they had fifth generation plane J20,. They said that their HQ 9 is superior to S300 and S400 but ultimately bought Russian stuff. In past, same was the case with submarine as well.

Oh bhai, Iran has a hard time dealing with the US backed IDF, even though it prevails via sheer numbers n tactics. Overwhelms the IDF stuck in one place trying to defend from multiple directions and levels of Iranian attacks.

China kya? Russiands today don’t got what the Iranians throw at you.

Su-30 or Su-35 or eff-thurrty-fav ain’t goin do jack shiit in todays combat arena.

Iran figured this out a generation ago. Baqi saaray chutiya mulk trying to desperately catch up with the reality….

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Can you 'ask' him to leave this thread? I feel like his emotions are almost collapsing.

Need favour to continue with your narrative without being countered? See this is not fair. This is a discussion forum. If you don't have the guts to argue, request me humbly. I will quit the thread.

 

[Jiangnan]

Because China has a track record of buying defence stuff which they had declared inferior to Chinese stuff. For example buying Su30 when they had J10, Buying Su35 when they had fifth generation plane J20,. They said that their HQ 9 is superior to S300 and S400 but ultimately bought Russian stuff. In past, same was the case with submarine as well. China exported JF17 to Pakistan but continued with old Mig21 but didn't induct JF17.

Based on actual performance.

Pakistan JF-17 humiliates India Su-30.
Chinese J-10C humiliates Taiwanese F-16V
Chinese J-10C humiliates Indian Dream Su-35.

So. Indian Su-30 < Pakistani JF-17 < Taiwan F-16V < Chinese J-10C.

So in order to counter the J-10C, India bought Rafale fighter jets.

But based on actual performance. J-10C patrols near New Delhi. The Rafale fighter jet cannot reach Mount Everest due to reliability issues.

So based on actual performance. Whether it's India's existing fighter jets or the Indian Dream. All garbage.

 

[Bilal9]

Can you 'ask' him to leave this thread? I feel like his emotions are almost collapsing.

Brother - he deserves to express his opinion. Let's see what logic he comes up with.

 

[Jiangnan]

Brother - he deserves to express his opinion. Let's see what logic he comes up with.

I just don't want him to disrupt this thread. You know, He often changes the topic.

 

[Bilal9]

Because China has a track record of buying defence stuff which they had declared inferior to Chinese stuff. For example buying Su30 when they had J10, Buying Su35 when they had fifth generation plane J20,. They said that their HQ 9 is superior to S300 and S400 but ultimately bought Russian stuff. In past, same was the case with submarine as well. China exported JF17 to Pakistan but continued with old Mig21 but didn't induct JF17.

Every nation has different roles for different types of assets and platforms according to their military planning and doctrine. They can buy some and make some. The key is what they are capable of producing in indigenous fashion, without depending on external sources. Which is not what India can do.

Do you know that the SU30 the Chinese "bought" was also produced in China itself as J15 and J16 ?? All the systems in these J15 and J16 are made in China itself (WS 10B engines, avionics like AESA radar). China's deployed J16s (more modern than India's SU 30 MKI) will exceed 350 plus units now. How many SU-30 MKIs does India have ?? About 259 ?

@Jiangnan I don't know if I am entirely truthful above.

 

[Bilal9]

I just don't want him to disrupt this thread. You know, He often changes the topic.

I know, changing topic is against forum rules, thread hijack etc. I am always alert on that.

 

[Jiangnan]

Every nation has different roles for different types of assets and platforms according to their military planning and doctrine. They can buy some and make some. The key is what they are capable of producing in indigenous fashion, without depending on external sources. Which is not what India can do.

Do you know that the SU30 the Chinese "bought" was also produced in China itself as J15 and J16 ?? All the systems in these J15 and J16 are made in China itself (WS 10B engines, avionics like AESA radar). China's deployed J16s (more modern than India's SU 30 MKI) will exceed 350 plus units now. How many SU-30 MKIs does India have ?? About 259 ?

@Jiangnan I don't know if I am entirely truthful above.

I don't know if you have noticed another issue I raised - attendance rate.

J-10C, J-15, J-16, J-20, J-35A, etc. all use Chinese aviation engines.

Actual performance.

J-10C flies directly from China to Egypt. The mileage is 8000km without any faults.

The J-10C formation flew over Mount Everest. Prove that it still works excellently in extreme cold and high-altitude hypoxic environments.

The Liaoning aircraft carrier strike group took off and landed 420 J-15 in 8 days

The Shandong aircraft carrier strike group took off and landed 480 J-15 aircraft within 9 days.

This is attendance rate. Above, all sources of information can be provided.

Now let's take a look at the Indian Air Force.

Indian fighter jets are equipped with engines from Russia, France, and the United States. Then watch the J-10C fly at a distance of 300 km from New Delhi

My opinion is. Indian fighter jet, fly first...

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Every nation has different roles for different types of assets and platforms according to their military planning and doctrine. They can buy some and make some. The key is what they are capable of producing in indigenous fashion, without depending on external sources. Which is not what India can do.

Do you know that the SU30 the Chinese "bought" was also produced in China itself as J15 and J16 ?? All the systems in these J15 and J16 are made in China itself (WS 10B engines, avionics like AESA radar). China's deployed J16s (more modern than India's SU 30 MKI) will exceed 350 plus units now. How many SU-30 MKIs does India have ?? About 259 ?

@Jiangnan I don't know if I am entirely truthful above.

You mentioned about J15 here. Do you want to know what Chinese media tells about J15? They call it a bogus aircraft which can not carry more than 2 ton payload from deck. If you want, I can post the article link.