[🇵🇰-Airforce] Pakistan to Get Chinese-Made Shenyang J-35 Fifth-Gen Fighter Aircraft Within 24 Months

[Jiangnan]

Do not get excited. Chinese so called 5th generation planes have 4- generation stuff in it. They are made to look like fifth generation. They have substandard engines, substandard electronics and substandard weapons. There is nothing fifth generation stuff in Chinese jets and that is why India does not take them seriously. J 20 was detected by MKI from far away distance.

So far as Tejas is concerned, it was not conceived as multirole fighter to all the Jobs of rafale. It was conceived as the replacement of Mig 21 and it has done exceptionally well. It is a top-class fighter of its class. An excellent point defense fighter with excellent ground attack capabilities in nearby areas. So far as India is concern, we do not copy anything and everything which we get the chance to copy. Our MWF is coming. A top-class fighter with Rafale like abilities. Our ORCA and AMCA are in pipeline. When they arrive, they will lead the fighter market. Our defense stuff has attracted customers across the globe unlike China whose more than half of the military exports goes to a single country named Pakistan.

Please ask Indian friends to give a serious answer：Where did the Indian Su-30 discover the J-20?

Height? Location? Latitude and longitude?

Please release the flight photos of J-20 captured by Su-30 camera. If the Su-30 has a camera, if Indians know what a camera is.

Indians say that the J-20 does not meet the standards.. Is this standard based on 'Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16'?

J-20, WS-15 Engine!



J-35A, WS-15 Engine!


J-16, WS-10 Engine!


India, a backward agricultural country that cannot even manufacture airframes. Talking about 'standards'?!

@Bilal9 @Guru Dutt @Saif

 

[Bilal9]

well i guess you have no idea that IAF has
36 Dassault Rafale &
40 LCA MK1
there are 259 odd su 30
we also have 60 Mirage2000
and 64 Mig29 + 40 Mig29K
while there are 80 odd Sepecat Jaguars
and 140 BAE Hawks for adwanced jet training which also can be used for light attack

but those are offensive stuff what we have that China is most fearfull about is what they never talk about but Pakistanies think that they are only ones to have that ... but really that so ?????

I am perfectly aware of the fleet and armament complements India wields. Have been for last two decades.

It is still underwhelming compared to the fleet strengths of a much smaller country like Pakistan whose fleet continues to be more modern and far more effective.

Let's not talk about China, whose indigenous aviation design/mfg. strength India cannot really match. Let's bring up specifics. especially on stealth, but also non-stealth assets.

By the way you forgot about Indian Naval Aviation - long/short-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare assets like Tu-142M, IL-38 (both now retired), newer assets to replace these like P-8 Poseidon, MH-60R etc. but not in sufficient numbers.

Almost all Indian assets imported - and which cannot be sustained in a longstanding skirmish.

 

[Saif]

Don't tell the Indians~ China has never had a MiG-21. and Pakistani J-10C used WS-10 engines.

Let's see how many jokes there are in India

Does your WS-15 engine have TVC (Thrust Vector Control)?

 

[Saif]

Please ask Indian friends to give a serious answer：Where did the Indian Su-30 discover the J-20?

Height? Location? Latitude and longitude?

Please release the flight photos of J-20 captured by Su-30 camera. If the Su-30 has a camera, if Indians know what a camera is.

Indians say that the J-20 does not meet the standards.. Is this standard based on 'Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16'?

J-20, WS-15 Engine!



J-35A, WS-15 Engine!


J-16, WS-10 Engine!


India, a backward agricultural country that cannot even manufacture airframes. Talking about 'standards'?!

@Bilal9 @Guru Dutt @Saif

Most of the parts of Tejas have to be imported including the engine. Making a jet engine is no joke. Only highly industrialized countries are able to make jet engine. India has to invest good amount of time and money to make jet engine on its own. As far as I know France has offered them jet engine technology to be used in Tejas.

Chinese WS-15 is a good engine. I heard that from a China specialist. By the by, have you retired all your J-7?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Please ask Indian friends to give a serious answer：Where did the Indian Su-30 discover the J-20?

Height? Location? Latitude and longitude?

Please release the flight photos of J-20 captured by Su-30 camera. If the Su-30 has a camera, if Indians know what a camera is.

Indians say that the J-20 does not meet the standards.. Is this standard based on 'Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16'?

J-20, WS-15 Engine!



J-35A, WS-15 Engine!


J-16, WS-10 Engine!


India, a backward agricultural country that cannot even manufacture airframes. Talking about 'standards'?!

@Bilal9 @Guru Dutt @Saif

It has already been answered. You are a poor reader. Come out of propaganda and learn to read if you want to discuss.

 

[Jiangnan]

It has already been answered. You are a poor reader. Come out of propaganda and learn to read if you want to discuss.

sorry. We human world cannot believe India's propaganda. Now go beg SU-57.

India. A backward agricultural country that cannot even manufacture airframes!

 

[Jiangnan]

Most of the parts of Tejas have to be imported including the engine. Making a jet engine is no joke. Only highly industrialized countries are able to make jet engine. India has to invest good amount of time and money to make jet engine on its own. As far as I know France has offered them jet engine technology to be used in Tejas.

Chinese WS-15 is a good engine. I heard that from a China specialist. By the by, have you retired all your J-7?

in fact. We are preparing to keep the J-7 to strike Rafale. you know, the Indian MiG-21 can shoot down F-16🤣

 

[Jiangnan]

Does your WS-15 engine have TVC (Thrust Vector Control)?

WS-10B has TVC.

 

[Guru Dutt]

I am perfectly aware of the fleet and armament complements India wields. Have been for last two decades.

It is still underwhelming compared to the fleet strengths of a much smaller country like Pakistan whose fleet continues to be more modern and far more effective.

Let's not talk about China, whose indigenous aviation design/mfg. strength India cannot really match. Let's bring up specifics. especially on stealth, but also non-stealth assets.

By the way you forgot about Indian Naval Aviation - long/short-range maritime reconnaissance and anti-submarine warfare assets like Tu-142M, IL-38 (both now retired), newer assets to replace these like P-8 Poseidon, MH-60R etc. but not in sufficient numbers.

Almost all Indian assets imported - and which cannot be sustained in a longstanding skirmish.

well India knows that it needs a very potent air force to keep China and other irritants like pakistan and bangladesh in there limits so they dontget too adventrous

having said that we do not need Su30 or rafales for Pakistan Mirage2000, Mig29s and LCA and jaguars are more tha enough for indian maratime roles in bay of bengal or arabian sea and pakistani theater

sure China would like to push the envelop by mass producing its 5th gen and gifting a squad or two of the same to pakistani air force like they gifted J10cs before but having fancy airforce is one thing and using them are very different things cause that needs money and other resources which is the real question

as for Indian air force future and its prepairdness well ther are many parlell programmes running its just that its now looking too confusing ... but it dose not means working is not done ... worry not we are used to such cheos ...cheers mate

 

[Jiangnan]

well India knows that it needs a very potent air force to keep China and other irritants like pakistan and bangladesh in there limits so they dontget too adventrous

having said that we do not need Su30 or rafales for Pakistan Mirage2000, Mig29s and LCA and jaguars are more tha enough for indian maratime roles in bay of bengal or arabian sea and pakistani theater

sure China would like to push the envelop by mass producing its 5th gen and gifting a squad or two of the same to pakistani air force like they gifted J10cs before but having fancy airforce is one thing and using them are very different things cause that needs money and other resources which is the real question

as for Indian air force future and its prepairdness well ther are many parlell programmes running its just that its now looking too confusing ... but it dose not means working is not done ... worry not we are used to such cheos ...cheers mate

Is this why India cannot manufacture MACA airframes? So why is India begging for SU-57?

 

[Saif]

in fact. We are preparing to keep the J-7 to strike Rafale. you know, the Indian MiG-21 can shoot down F-16🤣

I appreciate your sense of humor🙂

 

[Guru Dutt]

Is this why India cannot manufacture MACA airframes? So why is India begging for SU-57?

its all about national priorities specially of those who make the nation run and take such decissions we can only ponder what hapenned or what dint ????

its not that they dint had money or expertise or the need or the will problem is project management where indian beurocracy fucks up every good thing MCA/AMCA project is no different

manohar parikker when he was alive had almost cleared all the decks and started the actual process but once he was gone these babbons of MOD yet again fucked it all up

 

[Krishna with Flute]

According to Pakistan's 24 News HD media outlet, this acquisition is part of Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air power and that of India.

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DEFENCE SECURITY ASIA) – Pakistan has reportedly approved the purchase of the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the Shenyang J-35, with deliveries expected within 24 months.

According to Pakistan’s 24 News HD media outlet, this acquisition is part of Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) efforts to enhance its capabilities and widen the gap between its air power and that of India.

The Shenyang J-35 is expected to outperform India’s advanced fighters, such as the Rafale and Sukhoi Su-30MKI.

This advantage is projected to remain until India secures its own fifth-generation fighter jets.

Earlier this year, the PAF hinted at its intent to acquire the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 “Gyrfalcon,” developed by China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation.

PAF Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu, stated that the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 would enter service “soon.”

Summary:

Pakistan has approved the acquisition of the Chinese-made fifth-generation fighter jet, the J-35, with deliveries expected within 24 months. This move aims to enhance the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) capabilities and widen its technological edge over India, which still relies on 4.5-generation fighters like the Rafale and Sukhoi Su-30MKI.

The J-35, developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, is designed for air combat and air-to-ground operations. PAF pilots are already undergoing training in China to operate the aircraft, signaling its imminent inclusion in Pakistan’s fleet. The acquisition aligns with Pakistan’s broader strategy to modernize its air force, replacing aging F-16s and Mirage 5s with advanced fighters.

This deal also reflects China’s growing influence as a defense supplier, with the J-35 joining the J-10C and JF-17 in PAF’s inventory. Analysts view the J-35 as a significant boost to Pakistan’s air power and a key component of its future aerial strategy.

Negotiations for the procurement of the Shenyang J-35/FC-31 have reportedly been finalized, with PAF pilots already undergoing training in China to operate the aircraft.

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The acquisition of the Shenyang J-35 has raised concerns in neighboring India, which still relies on 4.5-generation fighters like the Sukhoi Su-30MKI and Rafale.

The move underscores Pakistan’s commitment to advancing its aerial capabilities while highlighting China’s growing role as a defense supplier.

At the recent Airshow China 2024 in Zhuhai, China unveiled official images of its second fifth-generation stealth fighter, the Shenyang J-35A.

Designed for air combat and air-to-ground operations, the Shenyang J-35A reflects China’s ambition to compete with the United States in developing stealth fighters.

Chinese J-20

With the Shenyang J-35A, China joins the U.S. as the only nations to produce two distinct fifth-generation fighters, the Shenyang J-35A and J-20 “Mighty Dragon,” akin to the American F-35 and F-22 “Raptor.”

The inclusion of the Shenyang J-35 into PAF’s inventory complements earlier acquisitions of Chinese aircraft, including the J-10C and the jointly developed JF-17.

Analysts suggest the Shenyang J-35 will replace Pakistan’s aging F-16s and Mirage 5s, signaling a shift towards a more modern and diversified air force. – DSA

Cheers.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Please ask Indian friends to give a serious answer：Where did the Indian Su-30 discover the J-20?

Height? Location? Latitude and longitude?

Please release the flight photos of J-20 captured by Su-30 camera. If the Su-30 has a camera, if Indians know what a camera is.

Indians say that the J-20 does not meet the standards.. Is this standard based on 'Indian MiG-21 shooting down F-16'?

J-20, WS-15 Engine!



J-35A, WS-15 Engine!


J-16, WS-10 Engine!


India, a backward agricultural country that cannot even manufacture airframes. Talking about 'standards'?!

@Bilal9 @Guru Dutt @Saif

Same engine which has turned 19 J10 into debris killing pilots in almost all cases except couple of incidents.More they meet crashes, more aggressively they campaign for this junk fighter.

 

[Jiangnan]

Same engine which has turned 19 J10 into debris killing pilots in almost all cases except couple of incidents.orebit meet crashes, more aggressively they campaign for this jun fighter.

Let's talk about attendance rate. Okay?

J-10C vs Indian Air Force.