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30 min ... between Nur Khan and Bholari.

Before Pakistanis and Americans were screaming for India to stop.

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Ye Pakistan/ AL-Turkiya dono 1/2 hr main subdue honay waali countries hain.

Neither of the two got jack shiit for weapons......

I mean nothing at all doc......Actually neither would even resist, if the US/ Israel went after the two of em......

All we got is do numbri maal.......mere toys man.

Kuchh nahi hae muslim countries k paas to be able to defend themselves.

What a sob situation.
 
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Ye Pakistan/ AL-Turkiya dono 1/2 hr main subdue honay waali countries hain.

Neither of the two got jack shiit for weapons......

I mean nothing at all doc......Actually neither would even resist, if the US/ Israel went after the two of em......

All we got is do numbri maal.......mere toys man.

Kuchh nahi hae muslim countries k paas to be able to defend themselves.

What a sob situation.
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Aisa mat bol.

They would bring down an F16 or F35.

And win the war with 7 million memes on social media.
 
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Doc sochta har banda aisa hai, not the case, Doc
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Bro I am extremely shaken up.

Thodi der chup reh.

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Bhai it crashed into a building. Building k saaray log bhee murr gaey hongay. 100 ton fully fueled plane is like bomb no.......Plus all the people in the vicinity from the humongous fire ball.

Toba toba.........

400/ 500 to murray hongay at least.

Its a disaster.
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Into BJ Medical College. More than 40 interns dead from what my Gujarati batchmate is telling us.

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@Lulldapull ,

Bro. ,
you were very bulish on Iran's capabilities. See what happened. You guys often misjudge the capabilities of these rogue nations like Pakistan and China. They hype their capabilities by 10 times and do a lots of propaganda like what our tiny cute friend @Jiangnan do. When actual war happens, they surrender in a single day. You saw these 2 examples in a short period of time where Chinese, Pakistani and Irani military might completely exposed.

If I say you this, you may find it exaggerated but let me tell you, this. We are on the verge of putting almost one dozen hypersonic missiles into operation. They are not ordinary missiles but they are long range missiles which maneuvers a lot before hitting target with great precision at a speed of mach 7 to mach 10.

We will be able to cripple Chinese navy in less than 1 day like we cripple Pakistan in less than half of an hour by hitting 11 of their bases.

Those shitty rankings are bluff. As per those ranking, Iran was more powerful than Israel but what is actual outcome?

Rogue China wanted to harrass India through its proxy but see what happened. These rogue nations are laud mouth but when it comes to fight, they surrender like scared dog with tail between legs. China is one such coward dog who don't have guts to fight against even Taiwan. We have humiliated them 4 times in 11 years. We shall humiliate them even more in days to come. In case war happens in future, you shall see them surrendering like its pet Pakistan within couple of days.
 
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Many Pakistanis jumping up n down on Irani situation along with a lot of the overseas Irani turncoats.

Most Pakistanis dont realize that India used minimal force to totally subdue them in under a couple of hours flat out! Do ghantton k ander Pakistan was completely stripped down and totally cornered by India. 18 brahmos and 27 scalps is all it took.

Iran per 6th hamla ho ra hae combined US/Israel ka iss waqt!

More than 600 aero ballistic missiles have been launched at Iran since 3am last night.

There is just no comparison on the magnitude of fire power being used in these two very different wars!
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Looks like Iran has united Pakistan and India.

Both nations baying for their daddy's blood.
 
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Looks like Iran has united Pakistan and India.

Both nations baying for their daddy's blood.
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I didn't see any evidence of Pakistanis celebrating the Israeli attack on Iran.

Saw plenty of Iranians abroad, but those regime haters are a known qty, also saw a bunch of sanghis who were only too happy to see any "islamic" country take a hit, the full sapport crew. Our Krishna included in that lot :D

Probably were a few Pakistanis there too, also, I'll bet Arab twitter is celebrating.

Really committed white nationalists are as always seething at Israel and will cheer for just about anyone who would attack them.

A curious case of bedfellows most strange, the neo-nazis.

I'm sorta at 'wtf Israel, there was no need for this' .. also have always had a bit of a soft spot for Iran.

Where's you at, @Vsdoc .. maja ma cho ?

@Paitoo .. you ?
 
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I didn't see any evidence of Pakistanis celebrating the Israeli attack on Iran.

Saw plenty of Iranians abroad, but those regime haters are a known qty, also saw a bunch of sanghis who were only too happy to see any "islamic" country take a hit, the full sapport crew. Our Krishna included in that lot :D

Probably were a few Pakistanis there too, also, I'll bet Arab twitter is celebrating.

Really committed white nationalists are as always seething at Israel and will cheer for just about anyone who would attack them.

A curious case of bedfellows most strange, the neo-nazis.

I'm sorta at 'wtf Israel, there was no need for this' .. also have always had a bit of a soft spot for Iran.

Where's you at, @Vsdoc .. maja ma cho ?

@Paitoo .. you ?
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Sharma Ji said:
Not at all.

just a bit all over the place on this Israel vs Iran thing, not a zero sum/black and white thing.

not truly invested in either side. in that sarhad paar ka jung

kinda like the:

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se hui ladai,

jo hooeee ladai..

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hum to zeopoltix and miltry this and that ke shaukeen hain, buss.
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This is not about you.

You are being dishonest about the prevailing mood in India.

For Pakistan I have JC.
 
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This is not about you.

You are being dishonest about the prevailing mood in India.

For Pakistan I have JC.
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Now you're dragging this in another direction.

Indian mood clear hai, the sheen has worn off, fatigue bhi set in ho gaya hai.. isme koi doubt nahi

and as was clearly evidenced for all and sundry just this past general election.. Modi hanging by a thread, coalition life sapport, a far cry from the thumping mandate of the past. Executive, legislative branches crippled hai..

UCC and Abadi cuntroll ruk gaya, ek do temple toomple ki lollypop mili.. meh.

and I was a 2 issue voter.. i wanted just the 2.. abadi control and UCC.

oh well.
 
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Now you're dragging this in another direction.

Indian mood clear hai, the sheen has worn off, fatigue bhi set in ho gaya hai.. isme koi doubt nahi

and as was clearly evidenced for all and sundry just this past general election.. Modi hanging by a thread, coalition life sapport, a far cry from the thumping mandate of the past. Executive, legislative branches crippled hai..

UCC and Abadi cuntroll ruk gaya, ek do temple toomple ki lollypop mili.. meh.

and I was a 2 issue voter.. i wanted just the 2.. abadi control and UCC.

oh well.
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You are all over the place about our internal politics.

Let me pull you back.

I am talking about where (most) Indians stand on the Israeli attack on Iran.

Are Indians happy? Delighted? Chortling with glee?

Are Indians angry? Pissed? Unhappy?
 
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You are all over the place about our internal politics.

Let me pull you back.

I am talking about where (most) Indians stand on the Israeli attack on Iran.

Are Indians happy? Delighted? Chortling with glee?

Are Indians angry? Pissed? Unhappy?
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Hard to say, big country, this.

Have seen a lot of 'phull sapport' on Twixter.. usual suspects.. musalmans bad, therefore Iran also bad.. I lub Ijrael. crowd

TV I don't generally watch, last I checked they were more preoccupied with the Air India crash..

saw some poorly produced sansani bits on Iran too, flaming graphics, dramatic soundtrack mujik, the works.. had to excuse myself and left the room lol

TV media are scum, such a waste.. I moved to interweb more than 10 years ago.. which has its own share of muck to sift through, but news to mil jaati hai at least.
 
I am wondering why Iran does not have the wherewithal to carry out decapitation strikes like Israel regularly does with impunity. As does the US. On Iran. Its a friggin joke how regularly their top military and nuclear guys get killed. Are they so incompetent? Or is Israel and the US that good?
 
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I am wondering why Itan does not have the wherewithal to carry oht decapitation strikes like Israel regularly does with impunity. As does the US. On Iran. Its a friggin joke how regularly their top military and nuclear guys get killed. Are they so incompetent? Or is Israel and the US that good?
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Itan, typo, obviously, but also a Jewish male name.. Itan/Itai etc .. ek sekund ke lie confusion hui.

Mossad CIA ka baap hai, joke nahi hai yaar, Doc..

Iran obviously lacking there

although, you remember the Delhi attacks on Israeli diplomatic mission staff, futt se magnet bomb laga ke bike bhaga li.. BRAZEN !!

ye lo, proper full of the documentation..


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Israelis are vulnerable everywhere, bhot paranoia hai unko.. bhot time se.

Ek baar I was giving some friendlies a ride back to town from a concert type.. Jewish "soldier" aa gaya

those girls were just saying 1 or 2 more can fit in here, aa jao.

soldier, high as fvk aa gaya.. mujhe and my friend ko dekhta hai.. and says "ya ya, safe (y)"

mallab, jao inke saath lol

:ROFLMAO:

girls were sheepish smiling and kinda embarrassed about the whole thing.. I told them to relax, I get why you lot are like this.

/true story

not about my anecdote, but.. psyche dekho na.. paranoid mulk

I do feel for them, and no, any "sapport" I have is based on humanitarian grounds.. woh bhi bechare hain, though they been pushing their luck a bit too much these past almost 2 years..

I do not phull sapport their gaza ops any longer, can not in good conscience.. hamas threat is khallas.. kis baat ki bombings fir ?

I got a krap tonne of Israeli stories, man.. real interactions.

Kabhi mauka milega to dauraunga..

log nuance nahi samajhte aaj kal, sab kuch bc aar ya paar wala kar dia hai.. jabki sacchai hamesha kahin beech me chupi hoti hai !
 
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I am wondering why Iran does not have the wherewithal to carry out decapitation strikes like Israel regularly does with impunity. As does the US. On Iran. Its a friggin joke how regularly their top military and nuclear guys get killed. Are they so incompetent? Or is Israel and the US that good?
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The Mossad/ CIA got suitcases full of B-grade treasury dollars to offer to traitors inside Iran, within the IRGC.

Its no real loss doc.......these are symbolic hits.

These nuke scientists were all long retired lecturers now.

They've long done their job.
 
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Fresh Israeli strikes on Iran; explosions reported in Tehran

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Israel has launched fresh airstrikes targeting Iran’s military and nuclear sites, including locations linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). Iran’s Fars News Agency confirmed explosions near the Fordow nuclear facility, located around 32 kilometers northeast of Qom and buried 100 meters underground. Israeli forces said operations continue against Iran’s drone and missile infrastructure.

Reports indicate that over 200 Israeli fighter jets struck more than 100 Iranian sites early Friday, including nuclear plants, ballistic missile factories, air defense systems, and top officials' residences. The attack killed at least 78 people, including 20 senior commanders such as Major General Mohammad Bagheri and IRGC leaders.

In retaliation, Iran launched nearly 100 drones toward Israel, most of which were intercepted. Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and President Masoud Pezeshkian vowed severe revenge. Israel claims its air and naval defenses neutralized the threats, including a missile launched from Yemen.​
 
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Turkiye says Israel must halt efforts to ‘destabilise the region’

Israel must immediately abandon its “strategy to destabilise the region”, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan says after Israel’s attacks on Iran, adding that nuclear negotiations initiated by Trump were the only way to resolve the conflict. In a post on X after a four
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Turkiye says Israel must halt efforts to ‘destabilise the region’

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Israel must immediately abandon its “strategy to destabilise the region”, Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan says after Israel’s attacks on Iran, adding that nuclear negotiations initiated by Trump were the only way to resolve the conflict.

In a post on X after a four-hour security meeting with Turkiye’s defence minister and intelligence chief, Fidan said Ankara had been in close contact with the US, Iran, Iraq and Jordan.

He added that Turkiye had taken necessary measures at the highest level against regional security risks​
 
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Trump tells Reuters it's unclear if Iran still has a nuclear programme

President Donald Trump told Reuters in a phone interview on Friday that it was unclear if Iran still has a nuclear programme following Israeli strikes on the country. "Nobody knows. It was a very devastating hit," Trump said. Israel said it had targeted Iran's nuclear facilities, ballistic missil
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Trump tells Reuters it's unclear if Iran still has a nuclear programme

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President Donald Trump told Reuters in a phone interview on Friday that it was unclear if Iran still has a nuclear programme following Israeli strikes on the country.

"Nobody knows. It was a very devastating hit," Trump said.

Israel said it had targeted Iran's nuclear facilities, ballistic missile factories and military commanders at the start of what it warned would be a prolonged operation to prevent Tehran from building an atomic weapon.

Trump told Reuters the US still has nuclear talks planned with Iran on Sunday but that he was unsure they would take place. He said it was not too late for Iran to make a deal.

US special envoy Steve Witkoff is scheduled to meet an Iranian delegation in Oman on Sunday, but the Israeli attacks have raised doubts on whether the session will still take place.

Trump had initially worked to delay an Israeli attack to give diplomacy more time. But he said he had given the Iranians 60 days "and today is 61."

"They're not dead," Trump said of the US-Iran talks. "We have a meeting with them on Sunday. Now, I’m not sure if that meeting will take place, but we have a meeting with them on Sunday."

Trump said he was fully aware of Israel's plans for the attack.

The president had convened his top national security advisers at Camp David on Sunday night for what he said were discussions that included Iran and he spoke to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday about Iran.

"We knew everything, and I tried to save Iran humiliation and death. I tried to save them very hard because I would have loved to have seen a deal worked out. They can still work out a deal however, it’s not too late," he said.

He said he was not concerned about a regional war breaking out as a result of Israel's strikes.

Asked if the United States would support Israel against Iranian counterattacks, Trump said he supports Israel.

“We’ve been very close to Israel," he said. "We’re their number one ally by far."

"We'll see what happens," he said.​
 
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Israel's Netanyahu says Washington knew about Iran attack plans

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Friday that Israel had informed the United States about its plans to attack Iran before carrying them out. "I leave the American position to the Americans. We updated them ahead of time. They knew about the attack. What will they do now? I leave that to Pr
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Israel's Netanyahu says Washington knew about Iran attack plans

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Friday that Israel had informed the United States about its plans to attack Iran before carrying them out.

"I leave the American position to the Americans. We updated them ahead of time. They knew about the attack. What will they do now? I leave that to President (Donald) Trump. He makes his decisions independently," Netanyahu said in a recorded video message.

"I am not going to speak for him (Trump). He does that very convincingly and assertively. He said that Iran cannot have nuclear weapons, they cannot have enrichment capabilities."​
 
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Gulf countries fear Israel-Iran spillover

Gulf countries on Friday unanimously condemned Israel's strikes on Iran, fearing an escalation that could threaten economic interests and security.
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Gulf countries fear Israel-Iran spillover

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Residents check the remains of an Iranian projectile that was headed for Israel, after it fell in Syria's southwestern Daraa province on 13 June 2025. AFP

Gulf countries on Friday unanimously condemned Israel's strikes on Iran, fearing an escalation that could threaten economic interests and security.

"Gulf states are very much caught between a rock and a hard place," Sanam Vakil, director of the Chatham House think-tank's Middle East and North Africa Programme told AFP.

While "they are quietly applauding the further weakening of Iran they face real risks and have to play their cards carefully", she said.

Their close ties to Israel's protector Washington, which maintains military bases in the region, and their proximity to Iran -- and its missiles -- pose risks.

Vakil said that "Saudi diplomats are distancing themselves from Israel and condemning the strikes as a means to stay out of this conflict".

The unfolding situation is playing out against a recent diplomatic rapprochement Riyadh has been building with Tehran ever since China in 2023 brokered an agreement aiming to restore ties.

"This is a notable difference with the situation that prevailed in the region 10 years ago, when Saudi Arabia was sort of inciting the United States to strike Iran, calling it the 'head of the snake'," said Karim Bitar, a lecturer in Middle Eastern studies at Paris's Sciences Po university.

Indeed, as Tehran reeled from Israel's attacks and planned retaliation, Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan called his Iranian counterpart and "stressed the importance of dialogue to address disputes".


Stability at risk

"Gulf countries realise that this Israeli attack will jeopardise their economic interests as well as the entire stability" of the region, Bitar said.

That is a major preoccupation of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who has been focusing on economic growth, giga-projects at home and diversification away from oil.

During Donald Trump's first US presidency, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had pushed for a stronger stance against Iran.

Gulf countries supported Trump's decision to pull the United States out of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

But Gulf sentiment began to change after the United States failed to provide significant backing following attacks blamed on Tehran, analysts said.

A 2019 attack -- claimed by Yemen's Huthis but blamed by Riyadh and Washington on Tehran -- hit Saudi Arabia's Abqaiq processing plant and Khurais oil field, temporarily halving the kingdom's crude output. Tehran denied involvement.

The UAE too has been targeted by attacks from the Huthis that hit Abu Dhabi in 2022.

Seeking to avert attacks by Iran and its proxies, especially as they host US bases that could become targets in the wake of a broader conflict, Gulf monarchies have pursued a detente.

"The greatest concern in the Gulf now will be to what extent the United States will have to rely on their bases to assist in the defence of Israel," said Middle East analyst Andreas Krieg.

US 'red line'

While Trump's administration has distanced itself from Israel's operation, it has warned Iran not to hit US targets in the Middle East.

"It has... drawn a firm red line, warning that any attacks on US personnel or military installations will provoke a response," Vakil said.

She added, however, that "for now, Iran is unlikely to target Gulf infrastructure or assets".

The leaders of Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar last month had urged Trump, as he visited the region, to not order US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities and to pursue a deal instead, according to the US news outlet Axios.

"The Gulf states had hoped that Trump would show strong leadership and would contain (Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin) Netanyahu's neo-conservative tendencies to escalate," said Krieg.

Negotiations on Iran's nuclear programme had been going on between Washington and Tehran, although with little headway.

Oman had been readying to host a sixth round of talks on Sunday, before Israel's attack threw that into doubt.

For Bitar, the Israeli strikes seemed to be trying to "torpedo" the US-Iran talks.

"What will be the US reaction? Will they maintain their blind and unconditional support for Israel, or will they try to go back to the negotiating table and reach a new deal?" he asked.​
 

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