[🇮🇳] '25 yrs of progress undone': Analysts say today was the worst day in India-US relations in decades

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From the Hindu context.

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[Krishna with Flute]

Modi sahb found out that behind this so called 'muzlim terror' sits da US of A.......

Aaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaa.........

Haan, aur Iran is radical for fighting back against US backed AL-Qaeda and ISIS and Iran is not liberal like us Indians and Baqistanis......

I believe the colludz people in the subcontinent are the most gullible on the planet.

Let me state you India's position and my Position.

Position of India: India kept buying oil from Iran so far it was possible. India kept sending medicine and other consumable to Iran in Bad time and helped Iran to survive worst sanction.

My position: As I have said this repeatedly, I love Irani people. They are amongst finest of people. As they are ruled by a Jihadi Ayatollah who has his personal likes and dislikes which prevails the Iran's national interest, Iran as a nation pays for his dislike. I do not see any reason why a Shia Iran should be enemy of Israel thousands K.M. away from Iran when Saudi and other Sunni Gulf nations are in the process of maintaining good relations with Israel. It is Iran's government which should be blamed for conflict and all the hardship of the people of Iran.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Vishnu Ji ke one of many avatars is a fish, when he in his matsya avatar.

All his avatars says the story of evolution.

Avatar	Symbolism in Mythology	Parallel in Evolution
Matsya	Fish saves life in water	Aquatic life begins
Kurma	Tortoise supports mountain	Amphibians/reptiles
Varaha	Boar lifts earth	Mammals on land
Narasimha	Man-lion hybrid	Transition to hominids
Vamana	Dwarf man	Early primitive humans
Parashurama	Warrior with axe	Tool-using humans
Rama	Ideal man, society builder	Civilization and ethics
Krishna	Philosopher, strategist	Advanced intellect, culture
Buddha	Compassion, enlightenment	Moral & spiritual evolution
Kalki	Future warrior	Unknown future evolution

 

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'Entirely of Washington's making': Expert on PM Modi's Beijing visit, drawing India closer to China, Russia​

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'Entirely of Washington's making': Expert on PM Modi's Beijing visit, drawing India closer to China, Russia
The fact that Prime Minister Narendra Modi visited Beijing and held meetings with Chinese President Xi Jinping as well as Russian President Vladimir Putin was entirely of Washington’s making, said an expert. He said Donald Trump “kind of delivered Modi to Xi Jinping as a neatly wrapped gift”, indicating the thaw in the relations between New Delhi and Beijing.

David Lubin, Senior Research Fellow in the Global Economy and Finance Programme at Chatham House, said in an interview with UK’s radio station LBC, “It's entirely of Washington's making.” He was responding to a question about three nuclear power shoulder-to-shoulder, which must worry the US and Europe.

“I mean if you take the tariffs on their own, the tariffs that Trump imposed on India as a way of trying to convince India not to buy Russian oil, given the fact that China responded with such defiance to the tariffs that Trump put on China, it was always inconceivable that Modi could do anything other than act than respond with defiance himself. Otherwise Indian voters would be pointing at him saying ‘why does China have a leader that kind of confronts Donald Trump and we don't’,” he said.


Lubin said China established a template for aspiring great powers to respond to Trump. “The relationship between New Delhi and Washington had been deteriorating for some time not just because of the tariffs but also primarily because of Washington's kind of effort to cuddle up to Pakistan and so for all sorts of reasons Trump in effect kind of delivered Modi to Xi Jinping as a neatly wrapped gift,”

The expert said there was “not a lot more than symbolism” in the Modi-Putin-Xi Jinping meeting. “The idea of India forming any kind of military cooperation with China is beyond the pale,” said Lubin, calling it a symbolic win for Beijing, who wanted the support of the Global South.

PM Modi attended the SCO Summit in Beijing and met Xi Jinping and Putin together as well as for bilateral talks. Videos of them sharing a laugh at the sidelines of the summit have since gone viral. PM Modi also went to the bilateral talk venue with Putin, which also made headlines.

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I believe that US needs a harsh treatment by BRIC and global south to make US reconsider its position, be humble and cooperative.

 

[Vsdoc]

I believe that US needs a harsh treatment by BRIC and global south to make US reconsider its position, be humble and cooperative.

They have ruled the world for 500 years (crusades through to Renaissance and industrial revolution and colonial rule).

Half a millennium.

This hold they will not cede easily.

Without a huge bloodletting.

Take it in writing.

 

[Vsdoc]

Every empire is eventually defeated.

And has to be killed.

It does not die off naturally.

 

[Vsdoc]

They have ruled the world for 500 years (crusades through to Renaissance and industrial revolution and colonial rule).

Half a millennium.

This hold they will not cede easily.

Without a huge bloodletting.

Take it in writing.

And 500 years of bloodletting over Europe before that.

 

[Lulldapull]

Let me state you India's position and my Position.

Position of India: India kept buying oil from Iran so far it was possible. India kept sending medicine and other consumable to Iran in Bad time and helped Iran to survive worst sanction.

My position: As I have said this repeatedly, I love Irani people. They are amongst finest of people. As they are ruled by a Jihadi Ayatollah who has his personal likes and dislikes which prevails the Iran's national interest, Iran as a nation pays for his dislike. I do not see any reason why a Shia Iran should be enemy of Israel thousands K.M. away from Iran when Saudi and other Sunni Gulf nations are in the process of maintaining good relations with Israel. It is Iran's government which should be blamed for conflict and all the hardship of the people of Iran.

Have you ever met an Iranian who is muzlim?

Then Iran must also play the game, where you are made to believe the Ayatollah is 'Jihadi' no? If the west can go full hog jihadi with AL-Qaeda, Talibunny, AL-Nusra/ HTS/ LET/ Jaish Mohammad and ISIS franchises.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Trump-Modi bond is gone now': Ex-US NSA says Trump's chaos reversed decades with India

'Trump-Modi bond is gone now': Ex-US NSA says Trump's chaos reversed decades with India
Former U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton says Donald Trump’s once-warm ties with Prime Minister Narendra Modi have “gone now,” warning that personal rapport with the former president “won’t protect” world leaders from damaging fallout.

In a sharp critique of Trump’s foreign policy legacy, Bolton said the former president’s actions have “set back decades” of U.S.-India relations, reversing years of strategic effort to pivot New Delhi away from Moscow.

“Trump had a very good relationship personally with Modi. I think that's gone now, and it's a lesson to everybody,” Bolton told British outlet LBC in a recent interview. He added that Trump’s erratic approach to diplomacy—relying heavily on personal chemistry—has undermined broader U.S. interests.

The comments come amid deepening trade friction between the two countries. India now faces a 25% U.S. tariff on its goods and an additional 25% duty on Russian oil imports, effectively doubling the burden on Indian exports.

Bolton, who served as Trump’s national security adviser from 2018 to 2019, has frequently criticized the former president. He argued that Trump’s fixation on personal ties—such as with Vladimir Putin—blurs strategic priorities.

Responding to questions about India’s presence alongside China and Russia at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit, Bolton said: “About 100 percent of this goes to Donald Trump and the way he’s treated India... That progress has been reversed.”

The remarks underline growing concern in Washington and New Delhi about the long-term damage to bilateral ties, once considered a cornerstone of the U.S. Indo-Pacific strategy.

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Trump-Modi bond is gone now': Ex-US NSA says Trump's chaos reversed decades with India

'Trump-Modi bond is gone now': Ex-US NSA says Trump's chaos reversed decades with India
Former U.S. National Security Adviser John Bolton says Donald Trump’s once-warm ties with Prime Minister Narendra Modi have “gone now,” warning that personal rapport with the former president “won’t protect” world leaders from damaging fallout.

In a sharp critique of Trump’s foreign policy legacy, Bolton said the former president’s actions have “set back decades” of U.S.-India relations, reversing years of strategic effort to pivot New Delhi away from Moscow.

“Trump had a very good relationship personally with Modi. I think that's gone now, and it's a lesson to everybody,” Bolton told British outlet LBC in a recent interview. He added that Trump’s erratic approach to diplomacy—relying heavily on personal chemistry—has undermined broader U.S. interests.

The comments come amid deepening trade friction between the two countries. India now faces a 25% U.S. tariff on its goods and an additional 25% duty on Russian oil imports, effectively doubling the burden on Indian exports.

Bolton, who served as Trump’s national security adviser from 2018 to 2019, has frequently criticized the former president. He argued that Trump’s fixation on personal ties—such as with Vladimir Putin—blurs strategic priorities.

Responding to questions about India’s presence alongside China and Russia at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) summit, Bolton said: “About 100 percent of this goes to Donald Trump and the way he’s treated India... That progress has been reversed.”

The remarks underline growing concern in Washington and New Delhi about the long-term damage to bilateral ties, once considered a cornerstone of the U.S. Indo-Pacific strategy.

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Why does the article keep saying "former" President.

 

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'Tariff foreign remote workers': Peter Navarro drags India into new flashpoint​

The U.S. currently doesn’t tax services. But if implemented, such a move could disrupt global outsourcing and draw legal pushback at the World Trade Organization.​

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Navarro’s endorsement comes amid a storm over his recent remarks justifying Trump’s proposed 50% tariffs on Indian goods.

Peter Navarro has stirred fresh outrage. He is now backing a push to slap tariffs on foreign remote workers while doubling down on his attacks against India’s economy and leadership.

Donald Trump's trade advisor reposted a call from right-wing commentator Jack Posobiec urging tariffs on outsourced remote work. “Countries must pay for the privilege of providing services remotely to the US the same way as goods,” Posobiec wrote. Navarro amplified the message without caveat.

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The U.S. currently doesn’t tax services. But if implemented, such a move could disrupt global outsourcing and draw legal pushback at the World Trade Organization. Countries like India — with massive remote workforces — would likely retaliate with tariffs on U.S. tech exports or restrictions on American firms hiring locally.

Navarro’s endorsement comes amid a storm over his recent remarks justifying Trump’s proposed 50% tariffs on Indian goods. “India is the maharaja of tariffs. They have the highest tariffs in the world. They export us a bunch of stuff. So, who gets hurt? Workers in America, taxpayers, Ukrainians,” he said.

He also criticized Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s foreign policy, questioning his ties with Russia and China. “Modi is a great leader,” Navarro said, “but I don’t understand why he is getting into bed with Putin and Xi Jinping when India is the biggest democracy in the world.”

His most inflammatory remark came next: “You have got Brahmins profiteering at the expense of the Indian people, and we want that to stop.”

The comment sparked backlash across communities, with critics accusing Navarro of misrepresenting the caste system and dragging Indian social issues into American trade politics. In the U.S., “Brahmin” typically refers to wealthy elites — a definition that doesn’t map cleanly onto Indian realities.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Why does the article keep saying "former" President.

Former NSA Bolton sahi hai, former President typo most likely.

 

[Bilal9]

I have said this before and I say this again - picking panga with US is a BAD idea for anyone leading India.

It's a losing proposition at the end of the day...

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Have you ever met an Iranian who is muzlim?

Then Iran must also play the game, where you are made to believe the Ayatollah is 'Jihadi' no? If the west can go full hog jihadi with AL-Qaeda, Talibunny, AL-Nusra/ HTS/ LET/ Jaish Mohammad and ISIS franchises.

Not personally but I believe they are nice people.

 

[Sharma Ji]

I have said this before and I say this again - picking panga with US is a BAD idea for anyone leading India.

It's a losing proposition at the end of the day...

Kowtowing to Trump's demands is not an option, we can wait him out.

The man keeps score, pehle se he been miffed with India for Iranian and Russian oil purchases, and that we abstain from voting against Russia in the UNGA.

He can't hurt us, in his own words, and I'll paraphrase some "India don't buy anything from us, we buy billions of dolla ka maal.. trade surplus/deficit bad for US.. raah raah"

Kar lo bc sanctions jinnay karne ae, jo thoda bhot we buy, wo bhi band kar dena hai.. like those military big dolla items that been put on freeze for now, something that will further infuriate him

 

[Bilal9]

Kowtowing to Trump's demands is not an option, we can wait him out.

The man keeps score, pehle se he been miffed with India for Iranian and Russian oil purchases, and that we abstain from voting against Russia in the UNGA.

He can't hurt us, in his own words, and I'll paraphrase some "India don't buy anything from us, we buy billions of dolla ka maal.. trade surplus/deficit bad for US.. raah raah"

Kar lo bc sanctions jinnay karne ae, jo thoda bhot we buy, wo bhi band kar dena hai.. like those military big dolla items that been put on freeze for now, something that will further infuriate him

It's not a personal vendetta anymore, this will escalate further scaling up and wider with EU following Trump's sanctions with their own - on India's exports.

Previously tariff-and-sanction-unaffected Indian export items such as Pharma, Electronics and Backoffice services (including H1B Visas for Indians going to the US) will also get affected.

We are talking $45 Billion plus of exports being near-stopped.

People (even businesspeople) in India talk big about this in chest-beating fashion - but they are secretly trying their best to avert this.

There was no need for this Bahaduri attitude and this could easily have been avoided, with BRICS and SCO theatrics, which in the end, did not (and will not) help Indian strategic interests. India trying to teach the US a lesson is a comical exercise in futility. Last I checked, India is still a third world country.

If India wants to "wait it out", so can the US. And it has the wherewithal to do it for far longer.

 

[Sharma Ji]

It's not a personal vendetta anymore, this will escalate further scaling up and wider with EU following Trump's sanctions with their own - on India's exports.

Previously tariff-and-sanction-unaffected Indian export items such as Pharma, Electronics and Backoffice services (including H1B Visas for Indians going to the US) will also get affected.

We are talking $45 Billion plus of exports being near-stopped.

People (even businesspeople) in India talk big about this in chest-beating fashion - but they are secretly trying their best to avert this.

There was no need for this Bahaduri attitude and this could easily have been avoided, with BRICS and SCO theatrics, which in the end, did not (and will not) help Indian strategic interests.

If India wants to "wait it out", so can the US. And it has the wherewithal to do it for far longer.

Don't worry about India

Grand scheme of things, the US is still a relatively recent phenomena.

We can indeed wait this particular presidency out.

I, personally, still like Trump and his bombastic style !

 

[Bilal9]

Don't worry about India

Grand scheme of things, the US is still a relatively recent phenomena.

We can indeed wait this particular presidency out.

I, personally, still like Trump and his bombastic style !

Trump’s 200% Tariff Threat on Pharma: What It Means for India​

Trump’s 200% tariff threat on pharma: what it means for India

The Trump administration has proposed steep tariffs on imported medicines, with officials even suggesting duties of up to 200 per cent on some drugs, according to the Associated Press. If imposed, this would mark a dramatic shift, as most medicines currently enter the US duty-free.


As per the report, the administration has invoked national security provisions under Section 232 of the US Trade Expansion Act of 1962, arguing that America needs to boost domestic drug manufacturing. The COVID-19 pandemic highlighted shortages and heavy reliance on imports, which Washington now sees as a strategic vulnerability.

Possible impact on drug prices​

Analysts warn the move could raise prices and disrupt supply chains. ING’s Diederik Stadig noted that even a 25 per cent tariff could increase US drug costs by 10–14 per cent, with low-income households and older patients most affected. Generics, which make up over 90 per cent of US prescriptions, would be hit hardest as these manufacturers work on thin margins.

Why India matters


India is one of the world’s biggest suppliers of affordable generic medicines and active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs). According to Sudarshan Jain, Secretary General of the Indian Pharmaceutical Alliance, the US has currently “excluded” Indian generics from immediate tariff enforcement because they are “crucial for affordable care” in America.

Sandeep Pandey, co-founder of Basav Capital, told ANI that India accounts for around 6 per cent of US pharmaceutical imports, but its role is critical as many essential drugs depend on Indian inputs. Past disruptions have shown the risks: a temporary pause at an Indian factory once caused chemotherapy shortages in the US.

Why rebuilding US supply chains is tough​

Over decades, global pharma production shifted to countries like India, China, Ireland, and Switzerland. Experts say bringing manufacturing back to the US will be expensive and slow. Marta Wosinska of the Brookings Institution explained that while producing all key medicines domestically would be ideal, “it costs a lot of money” and would make drugs more expensive for patients.

Industry and legal pushback​

Big pharma companies like Roche and Johnson & Johnson have announced multi-billion-dollar investments in US operations, but experts point out that this will not immediately replace imported active ingredients.

Meanwhile, the proposed tariffs are already facing legal hurdles. A US appeals court recently ruled that such sweeping measures require Congressional approval. The case is likely to reach the Supreme Court, adding to uncertainty for global drugmakers.

What it means going forward​

For now, the disruption may be delayed because many companies have stockpiled inventories. But if tariffs of even 25–50 per cent are imposed in the coming years, US drug prices are set to rise. For India, the immediate threat seems limited, but as Jain cautioned, any shift in US policy could have major consequences for India’s $25 billion pharma export industry.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Trump’s 200% Tariff Threat on Pharma: What It Means for India​

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Trump’s 200% tariff threat on pharma: what it means for India

The Trump administration has proposed steep tariffs on imported medicines, with officials even suggesting duties of up to 200 per cent on some drugs, according to the Associated Press. If imposed, this would mark a dramatic shift, as most medicines currently enter the US duty-free.


As per the report, the administration has invoked national security provisions under Section 232 of the US Trade Expansion Act of 1962, arguing that America needs to boost domestic drug manufacturing. The COVID-19 pandemic highlighted shortages and heavy reliance on imports, which Washington now sees as a strategic vulnerability.

Possible impact on drug prices​

Analysts warn the move could raise prices and disrupt supply chains. ING’s Diederik Stadig noted that even a 25 per cent tariff could increase US drug costs by 10–14 per cent, with low-income households and older patients most affected. Generics, which make up over 90 per cent of US prescriptions, would be hit hardest as these manufacturers work on thin margins.

Why India matters


India is one of the world’s biggest suppliers of affordable generic medicines and active pharmaceutical ingredients (APIs). According to Sudarshan Jain, Secretary General of the Indian Pharmaceutical Alliance, the US has currently “excluded” Indian generics from immediate tariff enforcement because they are “crucial for affordable care” in America.

Sandeep Pandey, co-founder of Basav Capital, told ANI that India accounts for around 6 per cent of US pharmaceutical imports, but its role is critical as many essential drugs depend on Indian inputs. Past disruptions have shown the risks: a temporary pause at an Indian factory once caused chemotherapy shortages in the US.

Why rebuilding US supply chains is tough​

Over decades, global pharma production shifted to countries like India, China, Ireland, and Switzerland. Experts say bringing manufacturing back to the US will be expensive and slow. Marta Wosinska of the Brookings Institution explained that while producing all key medicines domestically would be ideal, “it costs a lot of money” and would make drugs more expensive for patients.

Industry and legal pushback​

Big pharma companies like Roche and Johnson & Johnson have announced multi-billion-dollar investments in US operations, but experts point out that this will not immediately replace imported active ingredients.

Meanwhile, the proposed tariffs are already facing legal hurdles. A US appeals court recently ruled that such sweeping measures require Congressional approval. The case is likely to reach the Supreme Court, adding to uncertainty for global drugmakers.

What it means going forward​

For now, the disruption may be delayed because many companies have stockpiled inventories. But if tariffs of even 25–50 per cent are imposed in the coming years, US drug prices are set to rise. For India, the immediate threat seems limited, but as Jain cautioned, any shift in US policy could have major consequences for India’s $25 billion pharma export industry.

Proprietary research ka lafda hai

somehow Indian Baniyas got into generics ka binnus, yes indeed, very much "on the coat-tails" waala surfing scene hai.

Trump does have a point, its a sham,e we're not in 1972 anymore.

Indian pharma will endure, services still form the bulk of it.

I understand, and appreciate Trump and where he's coming from, but usko intangibles ka bhi batao na

Our pause/freeze/maybe cancellation "order" is on standby too.. RTX/Raytheon and Lockheed Martin no like that.

ain't gonna like that

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like it or not, Bilal bhai.. and this is not a boast.

but India got some heft, and sometimes they throw it around.. its a good thing.

Amriki bhot harami cheez ae, wew on to their/your game.

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Hot Take: .. its all descending into a weirdo race based war.

 

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Proprietary research ka lafda hai

somehow Indian Baniyas got into generics ka binnus, yes indeed, very much "on the coat-tails" waala surfing scene hai.

Trump does have a point, its a sham,e we're not in 1972 anymore.

Indian pharma will endure, services still form the bulk of it.

I understand, and appreciate Trump and where he's coming from, but usko intangibles ka bhi batao na

Our pause/freeze/maybe cancellation "order" is on standby too.. RTX/Raytheon and Lockheed Martin no like that.

ain't gonna like that

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like it or not, Bilal bhai.. and this is not a boast.

but India got some heft, and sometimes they throw it around.. its a good thing.

Amriki bhot harami cheez ae, wew on to their/your game.

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Hot Take: .. its all descending into a weirdo race based war.

We are the pharmacy of the world.

As usual you talk with a very superficial idea about the subject.