South Asia 5% poor in India? Union govt claim debunked, '26.4% of population below poverty line'

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Short Summary: A recent paper, referring to the Household Consumption Expenditure Survey (HCES) 2022-23 of the Government of India (GoI), has debunked the official claim that poverty has substantially declined. Titled "Poverty in India: The Rangarajan Method and the 2022–23 Household Consumption Expenditure Survey", the paper—authored by scholars CA Sethu, LT Abhinav Surya, and CA Ruthu—states that "more than a quarter of India’s population falls below the poverty line."

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A recent paper, referring to the Household Consumption Expenditure Survey (HCES) 2022-23 of the Government of India (GoI), has debunked the official claim that poverty has substantially declined. Titled "Poverty in India: The Rangarajan Method and the 2022–23 Household Consumption Expenditure Survey", the paper—authored by scholars CA Sethu, LT Abhinav Surya, and CA Ruthu—states that "more than a quarter of India’s population falls below the poverty line."

The paper highlights issues with the methodology adopted by the GoI, which estimates poverty at just 5% based on "positive trends such as a 2.5-fold surge in consumption in both rural and urban areas." However, relying on the methodology proposed by the Expert Group to Review the Methodology for the Measurement of Poverty, chaired by Dr. C. Rangarajan in 2014, the authors estimate that 26.4% of India's population is below the poverty line (BPL)—27.4% in rural areas and 23.7% in urban areas.

The paper points out that the 5% poverty estimate based on HCES 2022-23 data was declared by B.V.R. Subrahmanyam, CEO of the GoI think tank NITI Aayog. The method used to arrive at this low figure involved adjusting the poverty line for 2011-12 for inflation using the Consumer Price Index (CPI) and applying it to HCES 2022-23 data. Ironically, the same method was used by scholars C. Rangarajan and S. Mahendra to arrive at a tentative estimate of 10.8% BPL.

According to the paper, the 2014 Expert Group defined the poverty line based on a consumption basket that included food (ensuring adequate nourishment), essential non-food items (such as education, clothing, transport, and shelter), and other “behaviorally determined” non-food expenditures. The authors used this methodology not only with HCES 2022-23 data but also with other official GoI surveys, such as the Periodic Labour Force Survey 2022-23 (PLFS 2022-23) and nutrition intake norms prescribed by the Indian Council of Medical Research – National Institute of Nutrition in 2020 (ICMR-NIN 2020).
Using the Expert Group (2014) method, they generated a new poverty line. Summarizing their approach, they state:

  1. Nutritional Requirements: The average calorie, protein, and fat requirements are calculated based on ICMR norms, differentiated by age, gender, and activity levels in rural and urban populations.
  2. Food Basket: A food basket meeting these nutritional norms is determined by analyzing the consumption patterns of specific income groups. The average monthly per capita consumption expenditure (MPCE) on food in these groups is used to define the food component of the poverty line.
  3. Essential Non-Food Items: The median expenditure on essential non-food items (education, clothing, shelter, and transport) is determined and added to the poverty line basket as a normative requirement.
  4. Other Non-Food Expenditures: Additional non-food expenses observed among groups meeting nutritional requirements are incorporated. The sum of these three components determines the new poverty line, expressed in terms of MPCE. This calculation is conducted separately for rural and urban areas. State-specific poverty lines are then derived using a relative Fisher Index.
Based on their computation, the scholars propose two new poverty lines for 2022-23:
  • Rs 2,515 per capita per month for rural areas
  • Rs 3,639 per capita per month for urban areas
In contrast, the GoI estimates Rs 3,773 for rural areas and Rs 6,459 for urban areas.

Providing evidence against the claim that poverty has declined to 5%, senior scholar Payal Seth, interpreting the paper, states:

"The per capita energy consumption for the poorest quartile in rural India declined by 2.6% between 2011–12 and 2022–23, signaling that rising nominal incomes have not translated into better nutrition. This directly contradicts claims of substantial poverty reduction, as improving nutrition is a critical indicator of poverty alleviation."

The paper argues that adjusting a prior poverty line using CPI is flawed for two key reasons:
  1. Outdated Base Weights: The CPI is calculated using old base weights for items in the consumption basket. Since new expenditure data has not been incorporated for over a decade, these weights no longer reflect current consumption patterns.
  2. CPI is Not a Suitable Instrument to Measure Poverty: The consumption patterns and price experiences of people below the poverty line differ significantly from those above it, making CPI adjustments inadequate for poverty tracking.
The scholars emphasize that poverty should also be analyzed in the context of rural wages, agricultural household incomes, and the informal sector, which indicate no substantial growth in rural incomes. Data from the Situation Assessment Surveys of Agricultural Households (2012-13 and 2018-19) shows that average monthly incomes for agricultural households grew at only 2.44% per annum at constant prices, from Rs 8,843 to Rs 10,218.

Furthermore, an analysis of two wage rate datasets—the Wage Rates in Rural India and the Periodic Labour Force Survey—suggests that real wage rates stagnated between 2014-15 and 2022-23. Data from the NSSO’s Annual Survey of Unincorporated Sector Enterprises also indicates a struggling informal sector, with a declining number of enterprises and stagnant wages.
Additionally, the scholars note that wages at the lower end of the formal economy, such as daily earnings of factory floor workers, grew by only 0.6% per annum at constant prices between 2002-03 and 2021-22, based on various rounds of the Annual Survey of Industries.

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Poverty has different definitions. So far as hunger poverty is concerned, it has been eliminated totally. So far as elemination of post hunger poverty is concerned, significant work is done. 4 crore houses are built for poor. Almost, every house has electricity and gas. There are more mobiles connections than people. Certainly, 1/4 th of population in India is not poor.
 
Poverty has different definitions. So far as hunger poverty is concerned, it has been eliminated totally. So far as elemination of post hunger poverty is concerned, significant work is done. 4 crore houses are built for poor. Almost, every house has electricity and gas. There are more mobiles connections than people. Certainly, 1/4 th of population in India is not poor.

Hunger poverty eliminated totally in India?

That is news to me.

Global Hunger Index still (2024) scores India's status at number 105, even worse than Rwanda, Ethiopia and Angola.

Bangladesh is ranked at number 81.

These people must be liars then.

 
Hunger poverty eliminated totally in India?

That is news to me.

Global Hunger Index still (2024) scores India's status at number 105, even worse than Rwanda, Ethiopia and Angola.

Bangladesh is ranked at number 81.

These people must be liars then.

well about so called GLOBAL Hunger Index ... thing is India has been donating wheat and rice and medicine's to all those countrie's in pacific and oceana or africa which are showed above India in same very index ;) :P
 
well about so called GLOBAL Hunger Index ... thing is India has been donating wheat and rice and medicine's to all those countrie's in pacific and oceana or africa which are showed above India in same very index ;) :P

Well then - maybe not distribute all this khairati and keep some for your own. Your claims are your claims and GHI numbers are real numbers. No arguing with that.
 
Hunger poverty eliminated totally in India?

That is news to me.

Global Hunger Index still (2024) scores India's status at number 105, even worse than Rwanda, Ethiopia and Angola.

Bangladesh is ranked at number 81.

These people must be liars then.



That is what IMF says.
 
That is what IMF says.

The paper is authored by Surjit S Bhalla, International Monetary Fund Executive Director for India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Bhutan, Arvind Virmani, former chief economic adviser to the Government of India and New York-based economist Karan Bhasin. But it is a working paper, which means it has not been peer reviewed and the International Monetary Fund has emphasised that views expressed in the paper “do not necessarily represent the views of the IMF, its executive board, or IMF management”.

Economist and Political Analyst Ajit Ranade, who is also the Vice-Chancellor of Gokhale Institute of Politics and Economics, raised several questions on the viability of this finding. “If poverty is so low, and inequality is declining, why then is the government persisting with the free food scheme?... Why is there a flurry of welfare spending on free cooking gas cylinders, to cash transfer to farmer households and now free electricity in states like Punjab? Why has India’s hunger index worsened in 2021? It ranks 101 out of 116 countries. Can poverty decline to nearly zero and yet hunger and malnutrition increase? Why does an advertisement for a mere hundred government ‘secure’ jobs attract millions of overqualified applicants?,” Ranade wrote in The Times of India.

Please see further,


It is well-known that Surjit Valla at IMF as well as Chief Economist Gita Gopinath are all very cozy with Modi and his team - she and Surjit would accede to what Modi wants as far as positive opinions for political purposes in India. She (and IMF) would not dare to anger Modi.


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Here is Gopinath with Kristalina Georgieva who is MD of IMF and Modi, its clear to see who is in Modi's payroll
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The paper is authored by Surjit S Bhalla, International Monetary Fund Executive Director for India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Bhutan, Arvind Virmani, former chief economic adviser to the Government of India and New York-based economist Karan Bhasin. But it is a working paper, which means it has not been peer reviewed and the International Monetary Fund has emphasised that views expressed in the paper “do not necessarily represent the views of the IMF, its executive board, or IMF management”.

Economist and Political Analyst Ajit Ranade, who is also the Vice-Chancellor of Gokhale Institute of Politics and Economics, raised several questions on the viability of this finding. “If poverty is so low, and inequality is declining, why then is the government persisting with the free food scheme?... Why is there a flurry of welfare spending on free cooking gas cylinders, to cash transfer to farmer households and now free electricity in states like Punjab? Why has India’s hunger index worsened in 2021? It ranks 101 out of 116 countries. Can poverty decline to nearly zero and yet hunger and malnutrition increase? Why does an advertisement for a mere hundred government ‘secure’ jobs attract millions of overqualified applicants?,” Ranade wrote in The Times of India.

Please see further,


It is well-known that Surjit Valla at IMF as well as Chief Economist Gita Gopinath are all very cozy with Modi and his team - she and Surjit would accede to what Modi wants as far as positive opinions for political purposes in India. She (and IMF) would not dare to anger Modi.


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Here is Gopinath with Kristalina Georgieva who is MD of IMF and Modi, its clear to see who is in Modi's payroll
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Whether it is IMF or WB or Microsoft or Google, it is all run by Indians. To fir Indian hi hoge na @Bilal9 bhai. Koi Pakistani ya Bangladeshi thode hi hoga. If anything is bad about India, any source is acceptable. Any dam Sh**r NGO report is ok but.......
 
Well then - maybe not distribute all this khairati and keep some for your own. Your claims are your claims and GHI numbers are real numbers. No arguing with that.
you still dont get it ... rather dont want to aknowledge the fact that all these so called HUNGER or DEMOCRATIC or FREEDOM OF PRESS TYPE INDEX's are just PROPOGANDDA TOOLs of the MEDIA MANGEMENT devision of DEEP STATE ECOSYSTEM & we In INDIA HAVE STOPPED TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY ;) :P
 
you still dont get it ... rather dont want to aknowledge the fact that all these so called HUNGER or DEMOCRATIC or FREEDOM OF PRESS TYPE INDEX's are just PROPOGANDDA TOOLs of the MEDIA MANGEMENT devision of DEEP STATE ECOSYSTEM & we In INDIA HAVE STOPPED TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY ;) :P
Thik hai as you lot wish.

The entire world deep state ecosystem is gearing up to defame and destroy India the superpower. :cool:

Though what they'd gain from it remains unclear.

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