🇧🇩 Bangladesh-Pakistan Relation---Can we look beyond 1971?

[ThunderCat]

We should unconditionally apologize to Bangladesh for the past junk behavior of our un-elected leaders and make it right. Bangladeshi are our brothers.

I would disagree there, not because I am Pakistani but because the events of 1971 were not as propagated. Not that I hold all Bangladeshis in contempt, just those who misrepresent the events of 1971.

There are Bengalis in this documentary who speak truthfully Separation of East Pakistan: The Untold Story (2021)

 

[Lulldapull]

Even if you didn't, there is no need for this kind of hostility that many nationalistic Bangladeshis keep inciting.

I just don't place you in the same labeling as them since there are like-minded Bangladeshis.

Even with regards to 1971 a few Bangladeshi intellects have questioned the official narrative. SO it's not like reason is subjugated to nationality.

India played the role of a conspirator and ensured the break up of Pakistan. We are not going to become one again, but trade relations must be started ASAP. All these years, India didn't even allow Bangladesh to trade with us. It's taken Bangladesh half a century to free itself from total Indian control. Pakistan Bangla trade will be boon for our economy.

 

[Bilal9]

Even if you didn't, there is no need for this kind of hostility that many nationalistic Bangladeshis keep inciting.

I just don't place you in the same labeling as them since there are like-minded Bangladeshis.

Even with regards to 1971 a few Bangladeshi intellects have questioned the official narrative. SO it's not like reason is subjugated to nationality.

Bhai - 1971 was fifty three years ago and Tikka Khan, Yahya and Bhutto are all six feet under. As is Mujib.

I believe it is time to move on. Only people who benefit in Bangladesh by bringing up 1971 is what we call "freedom war fraudsters". They are just in it to line their pockets - the cabal of Hasina.

Bangladeshis have all wised up.

 

[ThunderCat]

Bangladeshis have all wised up.

You definitely seem to have. I can only wish the same could be stated about the rest of Bangladeshis.

 

[ThunderCat]

India played the role of a conspirator and ensured the break up of Pakistan. We are not going to become one again, but trade relations must be started ASAP. All these years, India didn't even allow Bangladesh to trade with us. It's taken Bangladesh half a century to free itself from total Indian control. Pakistan Bangla trade will be boon for our economy.

It wasn't as simple as the Indian conspiracy- although that documentary clearly also documents it. There was fault on the part of West Pakistan, East Pakistan as well as Bharat making use of it. Watch the documentary.

 

[Lulldapull]

It wasn't as simple as the Indian conspiracy- although that documentary clearly also documents it. There was fault on the part of West Pakistan, East Pakistan as well as Bharat making use of it. Watch the documentary.

I did watch it and what a great documentary it is. India will always undermine us bro……it’s like a dead albatross we wear around our necks. They will never drop the hatchet.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Please read, then come up with specific questions.

China–Pakistan Economic Corridor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

China Pakistan Economic corridor is officially ended.

 

[ThunderCat]

I did watch it and what a great documentary it is. India will always undermine us bro……it’s like a dead albatross we wear around our necks. They will never drop the hatchet.

Their problem is they see our country as "their land." This is how they're trained. They worship our land and our ancestors as "theirs."

Afghans also pose a similar problem to us.

 

[ThunderCat]

China Pakistan Economic corridor is officially ended.

It has?

 

[Bilal9]

China Pakistan Economic corridor is officially ended.

It may or may not have ended, but the roads are still open. Or if closed, can be re-opened.

The need for the Tajikistan-Kyrgyzstan-China-Pakistan area at the top of CPEC to have a sea-port outlet has not gone away.

This is one of the many reasons why Pakistan is geo-politically important to China's land locked central Asian areas and other countries like Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and even Uzbekistan.

I asked you to take a look at the Wiki page but you have no interest in discussing specifics.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

It may or may not have ended, but the roads are still open. Or if closed, can be re-opened.

The need for the Tajikistan-Kyrgyzstan-China-Pakistan area at the top of CPEC to have a sea-port outlet has not gone away.

This is one of the many reasons why Pakistan is geo-politically important to China's land locked central Asian areas and other countries like Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and even Uzbekistan.

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I asked you to take a look at the Wiki page but you have no interest in discussing specifics.

Anything is important only till it has utility and no substitute is available. CPEC is now dead and can not be revived.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Because of a false narrative of Islamic brotherhood, Pakistan tried to forge many such brotherhood with many Islamic nations which did not work. Any artificial and unnatural relation does not work. They are bound to fail. They try to ditch their real brothers having blood relations and tried to befriend with those who looted and oppress their country. This artificial brotherhood failed badly. Anyway, there is nothing wrong in trying something. If you are unwilling to learn something in soft way, nature will make you learn in hard way.

 

[Bilal9]

Anything is important only till it has utility and no substitute is available. CPEC is now dead and can not be revived.

Well Pakistani brothers and sisters know best.

@ThunderCat bhai - what are your thoughts please?

 

[Bilal9]

Anything is important only till it has utility and no substitute is available. CPEC is now dead and can not be revived.

You refuse to take a look at that map and are acting (and commenting) like a propaganda bot.

Those land-locked countries and Western Chinese areas don't have a need to access sea routes through a port like Gwadar port? Sea access is not important?

Yes or no?

There is no credible or practical alternative.

 

[Bilal9]

Because of a false narrative of Islamic brotherhood, Pakistan tried to forge many such brotherhood with many Islamic nations which did not work. Any artificial and unnatural relation does not work. They are bound to fail. They try to ditch their real brothers having blood relations and tried to befriend with those who looted and oppress their country. This artificial brotherhood failed badly. Anyway, there is nothing wrong in trying something. If you are unwilling to learn something in soft way, nature will make you learn in hard way.

The narrative of Islamic brotherhood is not false.

It may ebb or flow, but it is ultimately reality, even more so today than ever.

You will not comprehend this, living in a majority Hindu country and being its Hindutva cheerleader.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

The narrative of Islamic brotherhood is not false.

It may ebb or flow, but it is ultimately reality, even more so today than ever.

You will not comprehend this, living in a majority Hindu country and being its Hindutva cheerleader.

That is why Saudi and UAE supports Israel against Iran. Iran hangs Sunni clerics saudi beheads shias.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

You refuse to take a look at that map and are acting (and commenting) like a propaganda bot.

Those land-locked countries and Western Chinese areas don't have a need to access sea routes through a port like Gwadar port? Sea access is not important?

Yes or no?

There is no credible or practical alternative.

No.

It is abandoned a long back. I challange you to quote any 5 major projects completed in CPEC in last 3 years.

 

[Saif]

Bangladesh, Pakistan discuss next round of foreign secretary-level consultations

Bangladesh and Pakistan, on Thursday, discussed holding the next round of foreign secretary-level consultations. The issue was discussed when the High Commissioner of Pakistan to Bangladesh Syed Ahmed Maroof met the Foreign Secretary Md Jashim Uddin at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Strengtheni

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Bangladesh, Pakistan discuss next round of foreign secretary-level consultations
Published :
Sep 19, 2024 23:24
Updated :
Sep 19, 2024 23:24

Bangladesh and Pakistan, on Thursday, discussed holding the next round of foreign secretary-level consultations.

The issue was discussed when the High Commissioner of Pakistan to Bangladesh Syed Ahmed Maroof met the Foreign Secretary Md Jashim Uddin at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Strengthening cooperation in areas of trade, and commerce, enhancing people-to-people contacts, and the issue of the Rohingyas also featured in their discussion.

They also discussed tapping the potential of SAARC, according to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The High Commissioner congratulated the Foreign Secretary on assuming his new responsibilities, reports UNB.

The Foreign Secretary conveyed thanks for the congratulatory message from the Prime Minister of Pakistan to the Chief Adviser.

He also discussed the background of the recent mass uprising and the priorities of the Interim Government.​