[🇧🇩] Extradition of Hasina, Awami Leaders/Beneficiaries and Related News.

[Sharma Ji]

What butthurt? If you were part of a family whose favorite son got picked up in the dead of the night and disappeared for two, three, five years and tortured (just because you were in the opposition) then you'd be pretty mad too. Electrical shocks to genitals, solitary psycho treatment, nail removal, egg "therapy", nothing was off limits. Just sick, evil things.

This woman isn't "your girl", unless India wants to be known as supporters for tortures and enforced killings.

I'll be the first to admit that I DO NOT understand the complexities of the BD political landscape.

Aapka mulk, aapki marzi.

I say this from a very detached perspective, and one of a completely unbiased watcher of events here..

Map dekho, yaar... history read karo...

You guys stand only to lose in the long run if your leaders make an enemy out of India.

I'm for peace, prosperity, and binnus ties, too many gareebs going bhooka nanga here in our neck.. kya fayda conflict ka ?

 

[Guru Dutt]

I'm trying to think of likely scenarios or pressors that would compel India to throw her under the bus.

@Guru Dutt @Krishna with Flute @Bagheera0084

Can you think of any?

well no matter what they want India will never yield to any ofthere whim's

forget throwing Shiekh Hasina under the bus for deep state stooges like yunus .... had it been pappu in power she would have been handed over long back or even given to them when she was trying to cross over

 

[Vsdoc]

well no matter what they want India will never yield to any ofthere whim's

forget throwing Shiekh Hasina under the bus for deep state stooges like yunus .... had it been pappu in power she would have been handed over long back or even given to them when she was trying to cross over

Sure

 

[Bilal9]

I'll be the first to admit that I DO NOT understand the complexities of the BD political landscape.

Aapka mulk, aapki marzi.

I say this from a very detached perspective, and one of a completely unbiased watcher of events here..

Map dekho, yaar... history read karo...

You guys stand only to lose in the long run if your leaders make an enemy out of India.

I'm for peace, prosperity, and binnus ties, too many gareebs going bhooka nanga here in our neck.. kya fayda conflict ka ?

The last thing seasoned Bangladeshi politicians want is to "make an enemy out of India".

However during Hasina era for last fifteen years, the relationship was not on an even keel.

More like order giver and taker.

That will have to change.

 

[Vsdoc]

The last thing seasoned Bangladeshi politicians want is to "make an enemy out of India".

However during Hasina era for last fifteen years, the relationship was not on an even keel.

More like order giver and taker.

That will have to change.

Sure

 

[Sharma Ji]

The last thing seasoned Bangladeshi politicians want is to "make an enemy out of India".

However during Hasina era for last fifteen years, the relationship was not on an even keel.

More like order giver and taker.

That will have to change.

Maybe, again.. I just haven't paid close enough attention to it.

and maybe that is symptomatic of how we're been.

aap logon ki Hindu minorities are at 2/3 % near extinction wipeout level.. idhar the musalmans are thriving, big league, and captain Tremendous potus would say.

Pak is a lost cause as far as India is concerned, it'll be a sad sad thing if you guys go that way.. in many ways more tragic for your lot than ours.

Oh well..

 

[Dogun18]

Sure

Very thorough and emotionless responses you’ve got there.

 

[Vsdoc]

Very thorough and emotionless responses you’ve got there.

What else to say?

 

[Bilal9]

Maybe, again.. I just haven't paid close enough attention to it.

and maybe that is symptomatic of how we're been.

aap logon ki Hindu minorities are at 2/3 % near extinction wipeout level.. idhar the musalmans are thriving, big league, and captain Tremendous potus would say.

Pak is a lost cause as far as India is concerned, it'll be a sad sad thing if you guys go that way.. in many ways more tragic for your lot than ours.

Oh well..

You have been fed a line of lies and propaganda.

Hindus are currently 9% of Bangladesh population and disproportionately hold 37% of all govt. jobs.

Some Bangladeshi Hindus claim to be "khatrey mein hai" because they used to be Awami League activists and their enemies are taking revenge now, since Hasina is gone. Most of these 'attacks' are actually by AL miscreants, trying to raise trouble.

If Muslims are attacked politically - it doesn't make the news in India, but in case Hindus attacked, it is big news in India.

No educated person in Bangladesh questions a person's religion, to do so is supremely bad unbecoming behavior, just like for educated Indians.

Indian BJP supporter media is blowing things out of proportion because BJP govt. cannot accept Hasina's ouster.

Also another thing is that Awami Leaguer Hindus were also attacked during Hasina's rule, but Indian media did not raise a peep. Guess why?

 

[Sharma Ji]

You have been fed a line of lies and propaganda.

Hindus are currently 9% of Bangladesh population and disproportionately hold 37% of all govt. jobs.

Some Bangladeshi Hindus claim to be "khatrey mein hai" because they used to be Awami League activists and their enemies are taking revenge now, since Hasina is gone. Most of these 'attacks' are actually by AL miscreants, trying to raise trouble.

If Muslims are attacked politically - it doesn't make the news in India, but in case Hindus attacked, it is big news in India.

No educated person in Bangladesh questions a person's religion, to do so is supremely bad unbecoming behavior, just like for educated Indians.

Indian BJP supporter media is blowing things out of proportion because BJP govt. cannot accept Hasina's ouster.

Also another thing is that Awami Leaguer Hindus were also attacked during Hasina's rule, but Indian media did not raise a peep. Guess why?

Whatever might we stand to gain from this ?

The Indian state has been the nicest thing ever, to a fault even.

A de jure protectorate with little (if any) meddling.. basic fairness only type. Never went full de facto loco, despite...

Handed back to the people in good faith

.. then some on your side have the gall to call us out for a 'bagal me chhuri' ?

jis din nikli na..

@Guru Dutt @Krishna with Flute .. tell him

 

[Bilal9]

Whatever might we stand to gain from this ?

The Indian state has been the nicest thing ever, to a fault even.

A de jure protectorate with little (if any) meddling.. basic fairness only type. Never went full de facto loco, despite...

Handed back to the people in good faith

.. then some on your side have the gall to call us out for a 'bagal me chhuri' ?

jis din nikli na..

@Guru Dutt @Krishna with Flute .. tell him

Your claim that India as an innocent country has not gained from a divided Pakistan since 1971 - is not true.

Neither is the claim that Indira Gandhi deployed troops in 1971 to help the Mukti Fauj for altruistic reasons.

Loss of one front in EP immensely helped India's security scenario, letting her concentrate on only the Western front. And opened up the Bangladeshi market for Indian goods, opened and exploited for fifty two years. It's open even now.

BJP people in India claim that Bangladesh is "dependent" on Indian goods (as if they import for free) and they will "starve" if India stops exporting Onions, Potatoes and Sugar.

I think Bangladesh will for sure stop importing Indian goods now and you will see the result. No buyer is dependent on any seller, they can always find other sources to import common commodities from (Yes even cotton). Bangladeshis have absolutely nothing to lose.

Indian troops could have moved into East Pakistan by April 1971 but waited eight months just so Muktis could conduct most of the guerrilla war on attrition to weaken Niazi's situation. That eight months of bloodshed (I'd say majority Hindu blood spilled because they simply were Hindu and could not run away fast enough) could have been avoided by Indian Army action and intervention, but the Indian generals (Manekshaw included) sat on their collective butts, letting the Hindu bloodshed continue. Such was Indian concern for Bangladeshi Hindus.

Whatever the reason, I think there is now increasingly bad blood between people and politicians of both countries, and such bad blood cannot be beneficial for the long term. An Indian apology for Hasina's 15 year misrule (helped by Indian assistance) may cool things down, but I don't think Bangladeshis are holding their collective breath on that.

Indian BJP supporter media doing false liar propaganda and lungi dance does not help either. All these points were raised when Indian foreign secretary was in town in Dhaka.

Bangladeshis understand that BJP is doing these propaganda for vote reasons - but ultimately boycotts of Indian goods in Bangladesh will only hurt Indian businesses of all sizes, including the size of Adanis and Ambanis.

No useless "Ha-Ha" reaction will change any Bangladeshi resolve.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Your claim that India as an innocent country has not gained from a divided Pakistan since 1971 is not true.

My claim, if any, was only that India has been a benevolent actor wrt BD historically.

I stand by it.

Neither is the claim that Indira Gandhi deployed troops in 1971 to help the Mukti Fauj for altruistic reasons. Loss of one front immensely helped India's security scenario, letting her concentrate on only the Western front. And opened up the Bangladeshi market for Indian goods, opened and exploited for fifty two years. It's open even now.

At the time, it worked to both our benefit... would you agree ?

BJP people in India claim that Bangladesh is "dependent" on Indian goods (as if they import for free) and they will "starve" if India stops exporting Onions, Potatoes and Sugar. I think they will for sure stop importing Indian goods now and you will see the result. No buyer is dependent on any seller, they can always find other sources to import common commodities from.

Not a spokesperson for them but I doubt the other side would differ much in action.

Indian troops could have moved into East Pakistan by April 1971 but waited eight months just so Muktis could conduct most of the guerrilla war on attrition to weaken Niazi's situation. That eight months of bloodshed (majority Hindu blood I'd say suffered because they were Hindu) could have been avoided by Indian action, but the Indian generals (Manekshaw included) sat on their collective butts, letting the bloodshed continue.

Fog of war, and more importantly, maybe, is the fact that I'm no scholar on it.. skimmed thru bits, and that's about it.

Not equipped to dispute or argue a position.

Talk about right now... to me, it seems like a bad idea souring things with India. No good can possibly come from it.. map dekho, yaarr !

Other things also dekho

I'm making the case for good friendly relations, is about all.

annex na ho jana

 

[Bilal9]

Fog of war, and more importantly, maybe, is the fact that I'm no scholar on it.. skimmed thru bits, and that's about it.

Not equipped to dispute or argue a position.

Read the bio of Manekshaw and the other Jewish general in 1971 sometime. These will shed new light.

Talk about right now... to me, it seems like a bad idea souring things with India. No good can possible come from it.. map dekho, yaarr !

Map dekhney ka jaroorat Indian Army ko bhi hai. Bangladeshis will not be sitting on their backsides, I can assure you. There are ten divisions of enlisted well trained active duty Infantry personnel waiting. And about seven million Rapid Action Battalion, Ansars, BGB and other paramilitary forces (not reserve, but active). Which is about three times that of India's number. Each one of these paramilitary outfits have elite commando units as well. We don't need to go there.

annex na ho jana

The stupid claim by Indian media that they can annex Dhaka in less than an hour is laughable. I think Indian Army should try some thing just to get a taste. This is not Nepal or Sri Lanka. Or even Ukraine.

 

[Saif]

As I said, you would not be doing anything new.

Just be ready to face the consequences ...

Don't do the standard lungi naagin dance then.

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[Sharma Ji]

Read the bio of Manekshaw and the other Jewish general in 1971 sometime. These will shed new light.

Jacob something. I've also read Manekshaw's book, don't have it on me atm.

Map dekhney ka jaroorat Indian Army ko bhi hai. Bangladeshis will not be sitting on their backsides, I can assure you. There are ten divisions of enlisted well trained active duty Infantry personnel waiting. And about seven million Rapid Action Battalion, Ansars, BGB and other paramilitary forces (not reserve, but active). Which is about three times that of India's number. Each one of these paramilitary outfits have elite commando units as well. We don't need to go there.

The chance of military conflict between India and BD remains at a big fat ZERO rn.

We have enough forces (men and gear) too.