[🇧🇩] India's offer to increase defense cooperation with Bangladesh-----What is India's real intention?

[Vsdoc]

I could have agreed with you if India could stop sponsoring insurgencies in Chittagong Hill Tracts and stop border killings.

Its not really important that members on an anonymous forum agree with each other or not.

But the realities.

Which is that India in not interested in fostering new arms races in its region, where none are really needed.

Also, as has been seen historically, in the distant past from 1971 and more recently with the Rohingya exodus, any armed conflict in the region will result in an exodus of refugees into India.

That is something India would like to avoid peacefully as far as is possible.

 

[Vsdoc]

Remember, the only countries that win from an arms race are those not inside the perimeter of fire and supplying the weaponry keeping their own industries and economies robust.

 

[Saif]

Also, as has been seen historically, in the distant past from 1971 and more recently with the Rohingya exodus, any armed conflict in the region will result in an exodus of refugees into India.

That is something India would like to avoid peacefully as far as is possible.

Bangladesh is the worst victim of insurgencies in Myanmar. 1.2 million Rohingya have taken refuge in Bangladesh. How many Rohingya have taken refuge in India?

 

[Saif]

BD has no capability to produce any weapons which can have an Impact in war. Tell me which Modern weapons does BD produces in BD? Plane, Howitzers, Submarines, Modern Ship, Any Air-to-Air Missile, Any BMD, SAM system, Tank, Armored vehicle? I am Curious to know any weapon produce by BD indigenously?

We mostly produce small arms at Bangladesh Ordnance Factory in Gazipur. We got technology transfer from China, Austria, and Russia. There is a plan to produce armored personnel carriers (the hull and the engine), MANPADS and ATGM (anti tank guided missiles). Our navy produces patrol craft, Large patrol craft, oil tanker, Auxiliary ships. Other projects that have been taken up by the navy are: 6 high performance frigates, 6 heavy offshore patrol vessels, 4 corvettes, and missile boats. Bangladesh air force has produced BBT2--a basic trainer.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

We mostly produce small arms at Bangladesh Ordnance Factory in Gazipur. We got technology transfer from China, Austria, and Russia. There is a plan to produce armored personnel carriers (the hull and the engine), MANPADS and ATGM (anti tank guided missiles). Our navy produces patrol craft, Large patrol craft, oil tanker, Auxiliary ships. Other projects that have been taken up by the navy are: 6 high performance frigates, 6 heavy offshore patrol vessels, 4 corvettes, and missile boats. Bangladesh air force has produced BBT2--a basic trainer.

I agree with you so far as Naval ships is concern. BD has a good capability in small ship building. So far as MANPAD and ATGM is concern, it might be an assembly. It is not easy to make various seekers used in missile and also the rocket motors. Even if BD starts assembling it, it can be a humble beginning. This knowhow can later be built upon to improve the capability. However, for that, one need robust engineering and technological collages, research institutions and research Labs. This is a long time project which requires long time commitment of resources.
In my opinion, Spiritualism is the base of every good thing in society i.e Peace, Prosperity, upliftment etc. . Like what we have seen in India, where a boy/girl comes from a very humble background and rises to highest level of any reputed institution/ center of excellence. We do not see that happening with other youngsters in other countries. BD being a Muslim country has certain limitation. It is very difficult for people to grow beyond certain level if he or she is bought up in Islamist culture. BD has a rich Bengali culture, but this advantage is by and large nullified by Islam in BD. This is true for many other Islamic nations like Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Iran etc.

 

[Saif]

I agree with you so far as Naval ships is concern. BD has a good capability in small ship building. So far as MANPAD and ATGM is concern, it might be an assembly. It is not easy to make various seekers used in missile and also the rocket motors. Even if BD starts assembling it, it can be a humble beginning. This knowhow can later be built upon to improve the capability. However, for that, one need robust engineering and technological collages, research institutions and research Labs. This is a long time project which requires long time commitment of resources.
In my opinion, Spiritualism is the base of every good thing in society i.e Peace, Prosperity, upliftment etc. . Like what we have seen in India, where a boy/girl comes from a very humble background and rises to highest level of any reputed institution/ center of excellence. We do not see that happening with other youngsters in other countries. BD being a Muslim country has certain limitation. It is very difficult for people to grow beyond certain level if he or she is bought up in Islamist culture. BD has a rich Bengali culture, but this advantage is by and large nullified by Islam in BD. This is true for many other Islamic nations like Pakistan, Syria, Iraq, Iran etc.

Half of your response was off topic. As for MANPADS and ATGMs, we got the technology from China. It is the production plant that is being established in our country not assembly plant.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Half of your response was off topic. As for MANPADS and ATGMs, we got the technology from China. It is the production plant that is being established in our country not assembly plant.

If that is the case, I will cheer for BD.

 

[Dogun18]

The issue is, truths can be spoken by both sides.

And Muslims historically are unable to digest truths about Islam and its personalities.

So once again, please desist.

@RayKalm
@PakistanProud
@TheNewb77

Is it the forum policy to allow such discourse?

Forum policy allows free speech for everyone, be it Hindus or Muslims.

 

[Vsdoc]

Forum policy allows free speech for everyone, be it Hindus or Muslims.

This is not free speech.

Its religious flamebaiting.

 

[Sharma Ji]

The new place

Just the same as the old place ?

C'mon people, we can discuss contentious delicate issues without the tutty slinging...

But this requires both the person making a point about the other, and the person on the receiving end.

Batsmen, bowlers... pls playing within zentelman rulej.

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Vsdoc .. pls giving tippani

 

[Dogun18]

The new place

Just the same as the old place ?

C'mon people, we can discuss contentious delicate issues without the tutty slinging...

But this requires both the person making a point about the other, and the person on the receiving end.

Batsmen, bowlers... pls playing within zentelman rulej.

There will be religious flame baiting no matter where you go. Every social platform on earth has it. As for @Vsdoc There are flamebaiting coming from both Hindus and Muslims here but they are free to express their views.

 

[Dogun18]

Ye bhi theek hai, k jo dil me ho, bolo khul ke.

Magar, bhot nafrat hai, to matt hi bolo.

Real life me bhi hota hai, yaar. You see something, but zubaan, harkat pe lagaam laga ke we let it pass.

Unless of course, it's egregious beyond all limit.

But then wahan pe bhi it all boils down to how much you can take.

Clearly defined limit set karo then.

I'm good with a free for all, as is @Vsdoc I'm quite sure.

Your turn.

Saif has been pretty tolerate with other view points. As as @Krishna with Flute

I've only seen @Vsdoc and @Bilal9 get a little infuriated.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Saif has been pretty tolerate with other view points. As as @Krishna with Flute

I've only seen @Vsdoc and @Bilal9 get a little infuriated.

I have not said anything offensive if you look at it logically unless you follow the narrative that anything said about Muslim by a non-Muslim is always offensive.

 

[Dogun18]

Let me be blunt. Since you don't seem to get it, and neither does @Saif

Since we are ok with freedom of speech and "truths" about religion

Is it ok if a Hindu (or a non Muslim) retorts rhat pedophilia and legitimate marital guise prostitution is "a fundamental part of Islam"?

Will the atmosphere here not get vitiated?

What did Saif say that equates to those claims other than mentioning the caste system?

And, as per the forum policy rules, which I've read, you are allowed to mention these 'statements'.