[🇮🇷] Iran VS Israel

[Saif]

Source : https://www.newagebd.net/post/Middle%20East/241057/iran-warns-of-consequences-of-israeli-attacks-on-lebanon

Iran warns of 'consequences' of Israeli attacks on Lebanon
Agence France-Presse . Tehran 28 July, 2024, 13:56

Israeli security forces gather near a site where a reported strike from Lebanon fell in Majdal Shams village in the Israeli-annexed Golan area on July 27, 2024. | AFP photo
Iran on Sunday warned Israel that any new military 'adventures' in Lebanon could lead to 'unforeseen consequences'.

Israel blamed Tehran-backed Hezbollah for a deadly rocket strike in the Israel-annexed Golan Heights.

'Any ignorant action of the Zionist regime can lead to the broadening of the scope of instability, insecurity and war in the region,' said foreign ministry spokesman Nasser Kanani.

He added that Israel will be responsible for 'the unforeseen consequences and reactions to such stupid behaviour'.

Hezbollah, which on Saturday claimed multiple attacks on Israeli military positions following a deadly raid on southern Lebanon, has denied responsibility for the rocket fire that Israeli authorities said killed 12 people including children in the Druze town of Majdal Shams.

Kanani accused Israel of pinning the blame on Hezbollah 'to divert public opinion and world attention from its massive crimes' in the Gaza Strip, where war has raged since October 7.

He added that Israel 'does not have the least moral authority to comment' on the deaths in Majdal Shams, on the Golan Heights which the country seized from Syria in 1967 and later annexed in a move not recognised by the United Nations.

Iran does not recognise Israel and has made support for the Palestinian cause a centrepiece of its foreign policy since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

The Islamic republic has hailed Hamas's October 7 attack on Israel that sparked the Gaza war but denied any involvement.​

 

[Saif]

Iran, allies plan joint retaliation against Israel

Iran and armed groups backed by it are preparing coordinated action meant to deter Israel but avert all-out war, sources and analysts said, after the killings of top Hamas and Hezbollah figures.

www.thedailystar.net

Iran, allies plan joint retaliation against Israel
Say sources, analysts

Iran and armed groups backed by it are preparing coordinated action meant to deter Israel but avert all-out war, sources and analysts said, after the killings of top Hamas and Hezbollah figures.

On Wednesday, Iranian officials met in Tehran with representatives of the so-called "axis of resistance" -- a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel -- to discuss retaliation for the deaths of Hamas's leader and Hezbollah's top military commander, said a source close to Lebanese group.

"Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party," the source who had been briefed on the meeting told AFP, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei threatened a "harsh punishment" for the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, which the group blamed on Israel, also vowing revenge.

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah was speaking yesterday at the funeral of Fuad Shukr, the group's top commander leading operations in Lebanon's south, where the group has been exchanging near-daily fire with Israel since the Gaza offensive began in October.

"There is a very strong likelihood that the response will be coordinated... among other resistance actors," said Amal Saad, a Hezbollah researcher and lecturer at Britain's Cardiff University.​

 

[Saif]

US announces deployment of more warships in Mideast

The United States will bolster its military presence in the Middle East, deploying additional warships and fighter jets to protect US personnel and defend Israel amid...

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US announces deployment of more warships in Mideast
Agence France-Presse . Washington 03 August, 2024, 22:11

| AFP file photo

The United States will bolster its military presence in the Middle East, deploying additional warships and fighter jets to protect US personnel and defend Israel amid soaring tensions in the region, the Pentagon said Friday.

The announcement comes after Iran and its regional allies vowed retaliation for the killings of a Hamas leader in Tehran and a Hezbollah commander in Beirut, fueling fears of a broader Middle East conflict.

'The Department of Defense continues to take steps to mitigate the possibility of regional escalation by Iran or Iran's partners and proxies,' deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh said in a statement.

'Since the horrific Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, the Secretary of Defense has reiterated that the United States will protect our personnel and interests in the region, including our ironclad commitment to the defense of Israel.'

The aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS Abraham Lincoln will replace one helmed by the USS Theodore Roosevelt in the region, Singh said.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has also ordered additional ballistic missile defense-capable cruisers and destroyers to the Middle East and areas under US European Command, as well as a new fighter squadron to the Middle East.

Israel killed Hezbollah commander Fuad Shukr in Beirut on Tuesday, a move it said was a response to deadly rocket fire last week on the annexed Golan Heights.

Hours later, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was killed in the Iranian capital—an attack on which Israel has not yet commented.

A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that Iranian officials met in Tehran on Wednesday with representatives of the so-called 'axis of resistance,' a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel, to discuss their next steps.

'Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party,' said the source, who had been briefed on the meeting, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

In April, Iran carried out its first direct attack on Israeli soil, firing a barrage of drones and missiles after a strike blamed on Israel killed Revolutionary Guards at Tehran's consulate in Damascus.

American forces helped defend Israel against the attack.

'As we have demonstrated since October and again in April, the United States' global defense is dynamic and the Department of Defense retains the capability to deploy on short notice to meet evolving national security threats,' Singh said.

'The United States also remains intently focused on de-escalating tensions in the region and pushing for a ceasefire as part of a hostage deal to bring the hostages home and end the war in Gaza.'​

 

[Lulldapull]

The reports from many sources suggest Irans given its proxies downgraded weaponry on purpose. If the actual anti ship ballistic missile gets used on a nuke carrier, that carrier would be no more!

More importantly if the nuke core of that carrier gets compromised, it will be an ecological and environmental disaster for the Houthis or Hezbollah or kataib or PMUs or even the Israeli.

Iran can’t be held responsible if a missile finds a bad target and there is a catastrophe.

Most Iranian missiles ‘miss’ da targets because of the likelihood of global condemnation.

 

[Lulldapull]

I’ve initiated a discussion on our other forum that if Iran is having one hell of a time penetrating IDF defenses, what hope in hell do other chumps like India or China have in trying to emulate Iran?

There generally is silence but the Indians get unnerved because of the seriousness of this question.

Facts are that countries like India or even China with third class weaponry have sweet fukk all chance of beating the worlds strongest ABM and anti drone defenses. It’s fairly obvious. They don’t got jack shiit!

All of Chinese and Indian weaponry don’t even got the reach let alone the capability to penetrate western ABM defenses installed in Israel.

The silence is quite telling on our other forum.

It’s a sad reminder of how far behind Iran we all are in conducting modern warfare.

Iran penetrates IDF defenses on a daily basis. Our jharrnail need to get a reality check on how pathetic our situation will be if we are asked to do what the Iranians doing daily.

Does anyone understand the seriousness of this reality?

We need a conference in Pakistan on how warfare is changing and how far behind we actually are from the leading global powers.

 

[Lulldapull]

I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

This post is written with the help of ChatGPT. Thank you

او بھائی ہم نے آج تک ایک میزائیل نہیں چلایا ہے جنگ مین۔ اور نہ کبھی انڈیا نہ کبھی کبھی چین نہ۔

اسرائیل کے اے بی ایم دفاع کو شکست دینا کوئی آسان کام نہیں ہے۔

اس میزائل یا ڈرون شوبے مین ہمارا کوئی تاجوربہ نہیں ہے۔

ایران ڈیلی ہملے کرتا ہے ڈرون اور میزیل سے۔ ایران کا بوہت تاجوربہ ہے اور اپنا تمم میزیل اور ڈرون خود بناتا ہے۔

 

[TheNewb77]

I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

This post is written with the help of ChatGPT. Thank you

Not a a bad assessment. Might I add that, unlike the Pakistanis, Iranians do not have strong battle tactics. I commend Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and other resistance groups like the Houthis for playing smart long-term gameplay and making critical decisions in the grand scheme of things - but I do not see them as battle hardened and wise as the Pakistani military in battle tactics. Pakistan can outwit many opponents in the ground-to-ground battlefield. While, if Iran went for a full fledged war with Israel, it would be outclassed in battle tactics (also due to the fact that the Israelis play dirty).

 

[Lulldapull]

Check this out folks........I believe Iran's planning some sort of a repeat of Oct 7th. An operation that will kill thousands of Israeli's. If this works, Israel's back will be broken:

Iran’s Revenge Plan Surprising, Unknown to Israel: Ex-IRGC Intelligence Chief - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s retaliatory response to the Israeli regime in revenge for the assassination of the Hamas chief in Tehran is going to surprise the Zionist regime, the former head of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps Intelligence Organization said.

www.tasnimnews.com

 

[Saif]

Iran, allies ready Israel response as funerals held for militant leaders

Iran and its regional allies vowed retaliation on Thursday for the deaths of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders, raising regional tensions as mourners filled Tehran's city centre calling for revenge

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Iran, allies ready Israel response as funerals held for militant leaders
AFP Tehran, Iran
Published: 02 Aug 2024, 08: 52

Water mist is sprayed as Iranians take part in a funeral procession for late Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran, on 1 August, 2024, ahead of his burial in QatarAFP

Iran and its regional allies vowed retaliation on Thursday for the deaths of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders, raising regional tensions as mourners filled Tehran's city centre calling for revenge.

A public funeral was held for Hamas's political chief Ismail Haniyeh in the Iranian capital where he was killed early Wednesday in an attack which Israel has not commented on.

Haniyeh's body was then flown to Qatar, where he had resided and where he is to be laid to rest on Friday, when his group called for a "day of furious rage" in the Palestinian territories and across the region.

Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, addressing the funeral of the Lebanese group's top military commander, said Israel and "those who are behind it must await our inevitable response" to Fuad Shukr's and Haniyeh's killings within hours of each other.

"You do not know what red lines you crossed," Nasrallah said, addressing Israel, a day after Shukr was killed in a strike in south Beirut.

Israel, which said Shukr's assassination was a response to deadly rocket fire last week on the annexed Golan Heights, warned its adversaries on Thursday they would "pay a very high price" for any "aggression".

"Israel is at a very high level of preparation for any scenario, both defensive and offensive," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

"Those who attack us, we will attack in return."

A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that Iranian officials met in Tehran on Wednesday with representatives of the so-called "axis of resistance", a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel, to discuss their next steps.

"Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party," said the source who had been briefed on the meeting, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The leader of Yemen's Iran-backed Huthi rebels vowed a "military response" to Israel's "major escalation".

Analysts told AFP that the retaliation would be measured to avoid a wider conflagration.

Iran and the groups it backs "will more than likely try to avert a war, while also strongly deterring Israel from continuing with this new policy, this targeted shock and awe," said Amal Saad, a Hezbollah researcher and lecturer at Britain's Cardiff University.

In Tehran, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei led prayers for Haniyeh having earlier threatened "harsh punishment" for his killing.

'Roaring marches'

Crowds, including women shrouded in black, carried posters of Haniyeh and Palestinian flags in a procession and ceremony that began at Tehran University, an AFP correspondent reported.

Senior Iranian officials, including President Masoud Pezeshkian and Revolutionary Guards chief General Hossein Salami, attended the ceremony, state television images showed.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards announced the day before that Haniyeh and a bodyguard were killed in a pre-dawn strike Wednesday on their accommodation in Tehran.

The New York Times however reported, citing anonymous sources including two Iranian officials, that the blast was caused by an explosive device planted several months ago.

When asked about the report, Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters "there was no other Israeli aerial attack... in all the Middle East" on the night of Shukr's killing.

Qatar-based Haniyeh had been visiting Tehran for Pezeshkian's swearing-in on Tuesday.

Pezeshkian said Iran "will continue to support with firmer determination the axis of resistance", the official IRNA news agency said.

Qatar-based network Al Jazeera reported that the plane carrying Haniyeh's body had landed in Doha, where the Palestinian leader is to be buried following prayers at the Qatari capital's largest mosque.

Hamas called in a statement for a day of protests on Friday.

"Let roaring anger marches start from every mosque," it said.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called Haniyeh a "martyr" and announced a national day of mourning on Friday "in solidarity with the Palestinian cause". Pakistan too announced a national day of mourning.

300-day war

The international community has called for calm and a focus on securing a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip -- which Haniyeh had accused Israel of obstructing.

United Nations chief Antonio Guterres said the strikes in Tehran and Beirut represented a "dangerous escalation".

In a phone call, the foreign ministers of Jordan and Egypt blamed Israel for rising tensions and called for "de-escalation", Jordan's official Petra news agency reported.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken reiterated appeals for an end to fighting and said achieving peace "starts with a ceasefire".

But the prime minister of key ceasefire broker Qatar said Haniyeh's killing had thrown the whole Gaza war mediation process into doubt.

"How can mediation succeed when one party assassinates the negotiator on the other side?" Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani said on social media site X.

US President Joe Biden will speak to Netanyahu later on Thursday, the White House said.

The killings are the latest of several major incidents that have inflamed regional tensions during the Gaza war which has drawn in Iran-backed militant groups in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen.

Beyond Gaza, clashes continued on Thursday with Lebanese authorities reporting four Syrians killed in an Israeli strike, followed by Hezbollah announcing a barrage of "dozens" of rockets at Israel.

Israel has vowed to destroy Hamas in retaliation for its October 7 attack that resulted in the deaths of 1,197 people, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally based on official Israeli figures.

Militants also seized 251 hostages, 111 of whom are still held captive in Gaza, including 39 the military says are dead.

Concern over the fate of those still held has grown among Israelis, who demonstrated demanding a deal to free them in Tel Aviv on Thursday, marking the war's 300th day.

Israel's retaliatory campaign against Hamas has killed at least 39,480 people in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run territory's health ministry, which does not give details of civilian and militant deaths.​

 

[Lulldapull]

also Sir,

If Iran had MIRV missiles in its arsenal, it would have been helpful to engage the Iron Dome. I am talking about the technology which Iran does not have in 2024 and Pakistan has been using it for the last 15 years and China has had that technology since 1965.

Paa G China chickunn da aik weapon aaj tak kamyaab ne hoya dushmana de khilaaf!

I believe our jharrnail now figuring this out too.

All wes been sold over da last 50 years is not war winning technology you know?

Our armed forces are weak......because we have largely untested chinese weapons.

If we fire our Abdali or Shaheen missile at Israel right now, it will 100% get intercepted. And our small nuke warhead will be wasted.

You understand me, don't you?

Taanu samajh ne aata k Irani battle these harami Israheeli kuttiyaan daily, and we have no such experience no? All we got is third class chinese obsolete weapons from 1990/ 2000 era vintage.

We are in serious trouble bhai, our nuke deterrent and strategic forces and pretty much everything else is an untested/ unproven laughable joke!

 

[Lulldapull]

Sir tussi sachay ho

Mujhe Lagta hai ke jo Banda aap ke ghar akhbaar phainknay aata tha wo baad main mere ghar akhbaar phainkne se pehle front page ghayab kar leta tha

Is liye jo khabar aap ke ghar pohanchi hai wo meri akhbar main nahi likhi hoti thee

Sir G seedhi seedhi gal hae gee no? The ones who fight with opponents who are advanced nations, then you get real world useful experience no?

We don’t have any such experience and we not getting any either.

Our weapons are from a second rate supplier, who himself has no war experience.

What more can I say bhai? Chinese drones have a very poor combat record in the Middle East and their missiles have even worse record.

I can post articles here, if you like? China drones koi ne khareed ra! Na koi Chinese jahaz khareedta hae aur na koi Indian weapons khareedta hae.



Sub nu pata hae that these are all second and third rate weapons which won’t work during war. They might work against talibunny or baloch insurgents, but they will never work against a near peer power.

 

[Lulldapull]

Guys check da news. FBI's arrested some Karachi gujju memon bhai going by the name of Asif Merchant in a plot to kill Trump. And he's sayin that Iranis hired him to do it......

 

[Saif]

Israel-Iran: Hell on earth

The US’ need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

www.thedailystar.net

Israel-Iran: Hell on earth
Israel can injure Iran, but it cannot beat Iran. It would even be a tough shot for the US.

Illustration: Salman Sakib Shahryar

Iran's retaliatory attacks in the weekend on Israeli soil, had brought the world to a standstill, as Israel's allies rushed to take down hundreds of drones and missiles. It was the US, not Israel, that shot down most of Iran's drones; the Pentagon coordinated a multinational region-wide defense from northern Iraq to the southern Persian gulf. Had merely one missile gotten through to kill Israelis, the war clouds darkening the skies over the Middle East would've caused a black-out in the region. While parallels with World War I may seem contrived, Iran's attacks on Israel have shifted the strategic reality in the region.

The media is filled with debates about whether the attack was a success or a failure, and who won and who lost. Iran managed to hit two military targets on the ground in Israel, including Nevatim Air Base. Scott Ritter, a former United Nations Special Commission (UNSC) inspector analysing the attack, has said, "There is no other place on the planet, not the White House, not the Kremlin, that has the level and density of sophisticated anti-ballistic missiles than Nevatim Air Field. My understanding is that Iran launched 7 missiles, 2 of them were probably shot down but 5 hit despite all of this." He further added, "This should prove to everybody, Israeli and American alike, that there is no defense against Iranian missiles."

While assessing the historic attack, Iran's domestic political factors must also be factored into the geopolitical equation. Recently, there has been a resurgence of Shia supremacists in Iran such as the Paydari Front, similar to the Zionists sitting in the Israeli cabinet. The head of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), Major General Hossein Salami, has also said the regime is now moving away from "strategic patience," and working with "a new equation." It is unclear whether Iran would risk a full-blown costly war, and whether their bellicose rhetoric will be another warning, steering clear of casualties, like their salvo of hundreds of drones was. But an emotional Israel that crosses the line has the potential to unleash catastrophe.

On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it. The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both. — Ramisa Rob

Israel's allies are now scrambling, working around the clock, to convince Israel to restrain after cleaning up its mess all weekend. The road ahead, that we are looking at, could potentially lead to a war that every world power is looking to avoid, but one that could be inevitable if there is any miscalculation on either side testing the tolerance of the other. To note: when we speak about Israel's response, we must also factor in the US fully, and the rest of the West to an extent. And when we speak about Iran, we are also talking about Russia—which exports Iran's Shahed drones and has used it to great effect in Ukraine—and consider China, as demonstrated by Iran's BRICS membership last year.

Iran's retaliation to Israel's deadly attack on its Consulate shares an eerie similarity to its response to the assassination of its top general, Qassim Soleimani, in 2020, by the US. Iran attacked two US air bases in Iraq, avoiding casualties, and received no further retaliation from the US. While the optics of Iran's attacks on Israel seem disproportionate, its actual toll with one serious injury, compared to 110 injured troops in 2020 is far less. The Western media at the time, took to rebuking Trump for escalating tensions with Iran; New York Times published reports that loudly declared, "Seven days in January: How Trump Pushed US and Iran to the Brink of War." By contrast, on Tuesday, April 17, a leaked memo from the NYT, obtained by The Intercept, shows that the paper's editors and deputies handed out directives to their journalists, restricting them to use words like "genocide," and "ethnic cleansing," and avoid using the phrase "occupied land" when describing Palestinian land.

Other previously credible, liberal outlets—or perhaps it's more accurate to describe them now as pro-Biden or pro-Dem—such as Vox, ran analyses in 2020, interviewed defence experts, to establish that a war between the US and Iran would look like "hell on earth." Where are those punchy articles now though? Where's the rebuke for Netanyahu that they had so emphatically extended to Trump? The same Vox, at the aftermath of an-edge-of-the-cliff-situation provoked by Netanyahu's government, has concluded, "Israel beat Iran—for now."

If Donald Trump is a threat to US national security—which he surely is—why isn't Netanyahu and Israel not being called as one, especially by the New York Times? It's important to learn from the history of the Trump-Iran face-off in January 2020, and understand that the restraint from the US to not further retaliate avoided what could've been "hell on earth." Netanyahu and the Israeli government which provoked this paradigm shift from a shadow war to a direct conflict, for the worse, is a grave threat to US national security. Iran sent a message in their attacks on Israel: "Control." The message was clearly intended to the US too, because Tehran's long-held strategic aim has been to end the US presence in a region it seeks to dominate. The US' backing of Israel in its genocide in Gaza has created the perfect excuse for Iran to advance that strategy, and it shows.

According to analysts, Netanyahu has two options that serve his political interest, that of perpetual war as the minute the war ends in Gaza, so does his political career. On one end, Netanyahu may be tempted to bargain with Biden, and hold off on Iran, provided that Washington supports its planned offensive against Rafah. The other option is pretty straightforward: a direct airstrike on Iran, which would inevitably drag the US into it.

The Israeli government, in their own words, has claimed they are a "nation of lions," and vowed to "exact a price." That price comes either at the cost of the Biden administration or the US security itself or both. Joe Biden's choices are either to back Israel's advance on Rafah and ruin his 50-years of a career to Trump, or risk his nation being dragged into a war with Iran. Whether he realises it—or is willing to admit it—or not, Netanyahu played Biden like a fiddle.

Biden's confusing actions in the aftermath of the Iran attacks reflect the tremendous pressure he is under. After announcing that the US would not participate in any counteroffensive against Iran, later on Sunday, Biden pushed the House of Representatives and Senators to pass additional wartime funding and military aid to Israel. The Biden administration is in a geopolitical mess created by Israel, as well as its own deplorable sponsorship of Israel's genocide on Gaza—the root of this mess.

Let's elaborate further on the dilemmas hovering over Biden's head. On one hand, he has an election to win soon, and further backing Israel's genocide in Gaza would highly increase the chances of his lengthy political tenure ending with the label "Genocide Joe." On the other hand, the US directly engaging in Israel's war with Iran would be disastrous, both geopolitically and strategically. Economically, it would cause a hike in oil prices and lead to a further global economic downturn. If the US chooses to isolate Israel, it would risk a divorce with its biggest ally. And if the US chooses to back Israel's conflagration with Iran, it runs the risk of isolating itself with Western democracies who might pursue sensible diplomatic outreach to Iran to not entangle themselves in a costly and deadly war, with the exception of the UK, of course.

Biden's best option is to engage in dialogue with Tehran. And that includes a compromise with Israel, or bending down to Israel. Either way, Biden loses.

Iran will not capitulate from retaliation; it will only accelerate the current spiral. This is all leaving morality aside. The best course of action is what Biden should've done a long time ago: demanded a halt in Israel's bombardment in Gaza, and forced Israel to normalise with Arab nations with whom it shares animosity against Iran, and recognise Palestinian statehood. But that ship has sailed far out of reach.

In a way, Israel's selfish Netanyahu has been a gift for Iran, and Biden's first mistake was handing out a carte blanche to Netanyahu's Israel—which simply, and immensely, does not care about the US. Further US military aid to Israel now, will undoubtedly aggravate the genocide in Gaza and even give ammunition to Israel to poke Iran more and find an excuse to divert the war to a wider conflict. Giving Israel weapons right now will be another big mistake by Biden. Does one give guns to serial killers and expect them to be peaceful with them?

Aside from Israel's response to Iran directly, the tensions brewing between Israel and Hezbollah, Iran's proxy in Lebanon—which is also the most strongly armed non-state actor, with 150,000 missiles and rockets—is another front that has the potential to erupt into a wider war between Iran and Israel. After more than six months of near-daily attacks between the armed group and Israel, on Monday, April 15, Hezbollah for the first time, claimed responsibility for detonating planted explosives when a group of Israeli soldiers crossed into Lebanon. Four Israeli soldiers have reportedly been injured.

Militarily, Israel can severely injure Iran, particularly with its world's most potent Air Force, but it cannot necessarily "beat" Iran in war. Aside from Iran's vast network of proxies, it also has the numbers: more than half a million active-duty military personnel. Iran has built a long-range air defense system, Bavar-373. Its claimed capabilities are reportedly on par or better than those of the Russian S-300 or the US Patriot.

In the naval front, Iran has armed its recent Revolutionary Guards' navy with drones and its 600 mile range missiles. Russia, which possessed few drones at the start of its invasion of Ukraine, began using two types of Iran-made Shahed drones: the long-ranging Shahed-131 and Shahed-136. Furthermore, Iran's strengthening ties with Russia give the secretive nation a significant military edge and render it a more formidable enemy to defeat as Israeli leaders debate military retaliation, experts say. According to a recent report by the Washington Post, a delegation of Iranian officials visited a Russian factory last March, which has "anti-aircraft batteries—including Russia's S-400, which analysts assess to be capable of detecting and destroying stealth fighter jets flown by Israel and the United States."

Though Israel has significant missile stockpiles, Iran possesses the "largest and most diverse missile arsenal in the Middle East," according to the CSIS Missile Defense Project. The nation's longest-range platforms are ballistic missiles—Sejjil, Ghadr and Khorramshahr—which can reach targets to around 1,240 miles, including all of Israel.

And then there's the question of Iran's nuclear programme, which Iran denies while also arguing that it has the right to access "civil" nuclear energy. According to a report on US foreign policy on Iran, published this January by Congressional Report Service, Iran "reportedly increased its nuclear activities in the context of heightened regional tensions in late 2023." Regardless of whether the nation has a covert fortress of a nuclear programme, Iran's close ties with Russia, and China—with whom the US is entangled in a Cold War—provide the nation with heavyweight backers. An eruption of the conflict has the possibility to unite Russia and China on the Iran axis with their common interest to destroy US hegemony. The US' need for a highly measured, or even lack of response from Israel cannot be overstated.

Even for the US, engaging in a war with Iran would exhaust its resources. Pentagon officials in 2019, estimated that a strategy to destroy Iranian nuclear weapon facilities would require a minimum of 120,000 troops throughout the Middle East. The US would not be able to overwhelm the Iranian military capacity with a strategy reliant on air and naval power, even more so now that Iran has increased its military spending.

The US has clearly expressed it does not want war with Iran, which has also sent the same message. Israeli President Herzog has also said they are not seeking war but there's no predicting the leadership of Netanyahu and his cabinet with the likes of its Finance Minister Bezazel Smotrich who called for a retaliation that "resonates through the Middle East," and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir who said Israel should "go crazy." The truth is, no one truly knows what lies ahead. Geopolitics is playing like a nail-biting game of chess, and if the action and reaction cycle continues, a slightly wrong move from any key player could tip the world over the edge.

Ramisa Rob is a journalist, in-charge of Geopolitical Insights at The Daily Star.​

 

[Saif]

Iran’s attacks on Israel: Bark, not bite

If Iran had truly intended to cause serious damage, then it would have done so.

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Iran’s attacks on Israel: Bark, not bite
Now the problem is, Israel likes to bite.

US President Joe Biden meeting with members of the National Security team regarding the unfolding missile attacks on Israel from Iran, in Washington, DC on April 13, 2024. PHOTO: AFP

Between April 13 and 14, almost seven months into the genocidal war in Gaza, Iran launched a historic attack on Israel. Contrary to the narrative pushed forward by Israel and the West, Tehran's attack was not "unprovoked," but rather "retaliatory." Earlier this month, Israel hit the Iranian consulate in Damascus and killed two Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) generals and five officials. Iran's argument for the attack rests on the same premise that Israel has been (mis)using in its war in Gaza: the "inherent right" to self-defence, as enshrined in Article 51 of the UN Charter.

The scale of Iran's attack, however, was unprecedented. It was the single largest drone attack carried out by a country in global history. The tit-for-tat threats that have been exchanged between Iran and Israel-US laid the groundwork for this weekend's retaliatory strikes. Iranian proxies, the Houthis in Yemen and Hezbollah in Lebanon, have been in direct confrontation with Israel. Just last month, Israel carried out more airstrikes in Lebanon, taking the death toll to more than 240. Israel's airstrikes on Damascus were undoubtedly an escalation of its ongoing confrontation with Hezbollah. The reckless attack on a diplomatic site, in breach of the Vienna Convention, shows that Israel severely misjudged Iran's willingness to attack directly instead of through its proxies. Inadvertently, Israel forced Tehran to make the decision; if it had not responded and instead relied on its proxies, Tehran would have risked weakening itself and its allies against the threat of Israel. On the other hand, if Tehran had gone in too aggressively by utilising its maximum military capacity, Israel would have had the opportunity to leverage the damage to coerce the US into a regional war. In the end, Iran's response seems to have struck the right diplomatic balance, for now. Only time will tell if Tel Aviv is willing to breach Iran's newly drawn red lines.

There was plenty of warning for the aerial attacks, and even the nature of the attack. Both US intelligence officials and Iranian officials had told The New York Times on April 12, that Iran is expected to mount an attack on Israel soon, but they will steer clear of attacking US military forces in the Middle East to avoid inciting a direct conflict with the US—which is exactly what materialised.

The hundreds of ballistic missiles did not reach their target; in fact, they had little chance of success to begin with. When Iran launched its attack on Israel, from 1,000 miles away, it gave the Israeli defence system and the US forces in Jordan and Iraq more than enough time to prepare a fend-off. While the world held its breath as videos of Iranian drones and terrifying fireworks surfaced on social media, the attack seemed to have been designed to do just that: ignite fear, create a spectacle, and show symbolic muscle power.

If Iran had intended to cause more than the little damage that its attacks have done, they would've strategically targetted Israel through Hezbollah by unleashing the group's deadly arsenal reach. The geographical proximity of Lebanon and Israel would've also exhausted Israel's extensive air defence system. Tehran wanted to respond to the direct attacks on its consulate in order to reinstate itself as a threat, but it evidently did not want to escalate tensions further. Iran's attacks seem to have been choreographed to bark, not bite. Their significance lies in the symbolism of the country's first-ever direct attack on Israeli soil, after decades of being arch-enemies.

The US'diplomatic efforts, which have shaped the parameters and outcomes of the war in Gaza, conveyed two contrasting messages. The US publicly reassured Israel of its "ironclad commitment." On the other hand, Biden directed a warning to Netanyahu—who, at this point, appears as though he is Biden's errant, disobedient son—that the US will not participate in any Israeli counter-offensive against Iran. The Biden Administration cautioned Netanyahu against continuing the game of implicating the US in his personal wars. By doing so, the US has planted wedges between itself and its closest ally in the region. But this warning itself, when juxtaposed with the high degree of US intelligence on Iran's operation, suggests that the possibility of a back-channel engagement between Iran and Western leaders prior to the attacks cannot be completely ruled out. The US and Iran often exchange big resounding words, and mostly the word "don't." But so far, both seem withdrawn to drag Israel's genocidal war on Gaza into a Third World War. Even before Iran's drones had reached Israel on Saturday night, its mission to the United Nations mysteriously announced on X (formerly Twitter) that "the matter can be deemed concluded."

Though it caused little physical damage, one of the most significant damages of Iran's actions is leaving the world to again brace itself for a response from Israel, the magnitude of which will soon unfold. It's up to Israel now, and that phrase is more dangerous for the world than anything else; even for the US president, who has privately expressed concern that Netanyahu is trying to drag the world into a broader, wider conflict, according to top US officials. It is also worth noting that Netanyahu has clashed with previous US administrations over Iran, openly lobbying against former President Barack Obama's nuclear deal with Iran in 2015, before gaining success with the Trump administration.

"De-escalation," has been echoed by Saudi Arabia, the Arab states, the UN, and Israel's Western allies. But the response is up to the Israeli war cabinet, which is characteristically and catastrophically escalatory. Put simply, Israel likes to bite. The Biden administration has utterly failed to influence and de-escalate Israel's genocidal response to the October 7 Hamas attacks. This brotherly dialogue from the US to Israel, which can be summed up with the phrase "don't do something you'll regret," has not yet worked as Israel has shown no ounce of regret over their bloody campaign in Gaza. Israel has not abided by the UNSC ceasefire—where the US abstained—and the death toll of Gazans has now crossed 33,000 since October 7.

Israel's defence minister has stated, "It's not over yet." An Israeli official also told CNN that Israel is yet to determine whether to try and "break all the dishes" or do something more measured. As the United Nations Security Council met to discuss Iran's attack, Israeli forces again bombed the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, killing five and wounding dozens on Monday. So, the biggest damage that Iran's aerial attacks have done is taking the world's attention away from the genocide in Gaza. The world is now preoccupied to contain a wider spillover, while innocent Palestinians are being killed by raining Israeli bombs and starvation, because no world power has been able to stop the ruthless Israeli regime.

Ramisa Rob is a journalist at The Daily Star.

Afia Ibnat is a political analyst and executive member of Shorolota Foundation.​

 

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Only Gaza ceasefire can delay Iran’s Israel response

Only a ceasefire deal in Gaza stemming from hoped-for talks this week would hold Iran back from direct retaliation against Israel for the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh on its soil, three senior Iranian officials said. Iran has vowed a severe response to Haniyeh’s killing, whic

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Only Gaza ceasefire can delay Iran’s Israel response
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People walk past a banner with a picture of late Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in a street in Tehran, Iran, August 12, 2024. Photo : Majid Asgaripour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via Reuters

Only a ceasefire deal in Gaza stemming from hoped-for talks this week would hold Iran back from direct retaliation against Israel for the assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh on its soil, three senior Iranian officials said.

Iran has vowed a severe response to Haniyeh’s killing, which took place as he visited Tehran late last month and which it blamed on Israel. Israel has neither confirmed or denied its involvement. The U.S. Navy has deployed warships and a submarine to the Middle East to bolster Israeli defenses.

One of the sources, a senior Iranian security official, said Iran, along with allies such as Hezbollah, would launch a direct attack if the Gaza talks fail or it perceives Israel is dragging out negotiations. The sources did not say how long Iran would allow for talks to progress before responding.

With an increased risk of a broader Middle East war after the killings of Haniyeh and Hezbollah commander Fuad Shukr, Iran has been involved in intense dialogue with Western countries and the United States in recent days on ways to calibrate retaliation, said the sources, who all spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.

In comments published on Tuesday, the U.S. ambassador to Turkey confirmed Washington was asking allies to help convince Iran to de-escalate tensions. Three regional government sources described conversations with Tehran to avoid escalation ahead of the Gaza ceasefire talks, due to begin on Thursday in either Egypt or Qatar.

“We hope our response will be timed and executed in a way that does not harm a potential ceasefire,” Iran’s mission to the U.N. said on Friday in a statement. Iran’s foreign ministry on Tuesday said calls to exercise restraint “contradict principles of international law.”

Iran’s foreign ministry and its Revolutionary Guards Corps did not immediately respond to questions for this story. The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office and the U.S. State Department did not respond to questions.

“Something could happen as soon as this week by Iran and its proxies... That is a U.S. assessment as well as an Israel assessment,” White House spokesperson John Kirby told reporters on Monday.

“If something does happen this week, the timing of it could certainly well have an impact on these talks we want to do on Thursday,” he added. At the weekend, Hamas cast doubt on whether talks would go ahead. Israel and Hamas have held several rounds of talks in recent months without agreeing a final ceasefire.

In Israel, many observers believe a response is imminent after Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Iran would “harshly punish” Israel for the strike in Tehran.

Iran’s regional policy is set by the elite Revolutionary Guards, who answer only to Khamenei, the country’s top authority. Iran’s relatively moderate new president Masoud Pezeshkian has repeatedly reaffirmed Iran’s anti-Israel stance and its support for resistance movements across the region since taking office last month.

Meir Litvak, a senior researcher at Tel Aviv University’s Alliance Center for Iranian Studies, said he thought Iran would put its needs before helping its ally Hamas but that Iran also wanted to avoid a full-scale war.

“The Iranians never subordinated their strategy and policies to the needs of their proxies or protégées,” Litvak said. “An attack is likely and almost inevitable but I don’t know the scale and the timing.”

Iran-based analyst Saeed Laylaz said the Islamic Republic’s leaders were now keen to work towards a ceasefire in Gaza, “to obtain incentives, avoid an all-out war and strengthen its position in the region.”

Laylaz said Iran had not previously been involved in the Gaza peace process but was now ready to play “a key role.”

Iran, two of the sources said, was considering sending a representative to the ceasefire talks, in what would be a first since the war started in Gaza.

The representative would not directly attend the meetings but would engage in behind-the-scenes discussions “to maintain a line of diplomatic communication” with the United States while negotiations proceed. Officials in Washington, Qatar and Egypt did not immediately respond to questions about whether Iran would play an indirect role in talks.

Two senior sources close to Lebanon’s Hezbollah said Tehran would give the negotiations a chance but would not give up its intentions to retaliate.

A ceasefire in Gaza would give Iran cover for a smaller “symbolic” response, one of the sources said.

Israel launched its assault on Gaza after Hamas fighters stormed into southern Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and capturing more than 250 hostages, according to Israeli tallies.

Since then, nearly 40,000 Palestinians have been killed in the Israeli offensive in Gaza, according to the health ministry.

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Iran has not publicly indicated what would be the target of an eventual response to the Haniyeh assassination.

On April 13, two weeks after two Iranian generals were killed in a strike on Tehran’s embassy in Syria, Iran unleashed a barrage of hundreds of drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles towards Israel, damaging two airbases. Almost all of the weapons were shot down before they reached their targets.

“Iran wants its response to be much more effective than the April 13 attack,” said Farzin Nadimi, senior fellow with the Washington Institute for Near East policy.”

Nadimi said such a response would require “a lot of preparation and coordination” especially if it involved Iran’s network of allied armed groups opposing Israel and the United States across the Middle East, with Hezbollah the senior member of the so-called “Axis of Resistance,” that along with Iraqi militias and Yemen’s Houthis have harried Israel since Oct. 7.

Two of the Iranian sources said Iran would support Hezbollah and other allies if they launched their own responses to the killing of Haniyeh and Hezbollah’s top military commander, Fuad Shukr, who died in a strike in Beirut the day before Haniyeh was killed in Tehran.

The sources did not specify what form such support could take.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran's fatally wounded Israel and Zionism. Israel's economy has collapsed!

 

[Lulldapull]

Its the last throw of the dice here folks by the western powers to save Israel from annihilation. Iran's been holding back from making any big or sudden moves cuz the guerilla war is on like Donkey Kong! And why disturb a perfectly good attrition strategy. Same same in Ukraine by Imam Putin......Anybody jonesing for instant gratification/ or lack thereof is falling for the narrative.

Iran is systematically dismantling Israel:

 

[Saif]

Israel losing its deterrent power

Iran yesterday praised the drone and missile assault by Lebanon’s Hezbollah group on Israel, saying its arch-foe had lost the ability to prevent such attacks amid heightened regional tensions.

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Israel losing its deterrent power
Says Iran amid heightened regional tensions, praises drone and missile assault by Lebanon’s Hezbollah group

Iran yesterday praised the drone and missile assault by Lebanon's Hezbollah group on Israel, saying its arch-foe had lost the ability to prevent such attacks amid heightened regional tensions.

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on Sunday said the group, which is backed by Tehran, had launched a large-scale attack on Israel, targeting "the Glilot base -- the main Israeli military intelligence base".

Israel's military said the installation was not hit.

Iran's Parliament Speaker compared the attack to the "defeat" of Israeli forces in 2006 war with Hezbollah

"The Zionist regime may be able to hide, distort or censor some facts regarding Lebanese Hezbollah operations, but it knows very well that the existing facts will not change," Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Nasser Kanani posted on X.

"The Israeli terrorist army has lost its effective offensive and deterrent power and now must defend itself against strategic strikes."

Kanani noted that the Hezbollah attack "extended deep into the occupied territories", and said the "strategic balance has undergone fundamental changes" to the detriment of Israel.

He also criticised the United States for its "comprehensive" support for Israel, which had failed to "predict the time and place" of Hezbollah's actions.

Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf on Sunday compared the attack to the "defeat" of Israeli forces in the 2006 war with Hezbollah.

"Today's defeat of the regime was on a par with the defeat in the 2006 operation, and they cannot hide this defeat," he posted on X.

Israel on Sunday launched air strikes into Lebanon, saying it had destroyed "thousands" of Hezbollah rocket launchers and thwarted a major attack.

In a televised address, Nasrallah said his group had carried out a two-phased attack, first launching "340 Katyusha rockets" at 11 military positions in northern Israel and the annexed Golan Heights.

Hezbollah militants have traded near daily cross-border fire with Israel since the offensive began in Gaza on October 7.

Fears grew of a wider regional conflagration after the killing of Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran and Hezbollah commander Fuad Shukr in Beirut.

Iran and its allies Hamas and Hezbollah have accused Israel of being behind both killings and vowed to seek revenge.

Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi posted on X late Sunday that Tehran's reaction to Haniyeh's death would be "definitive, and will be measured & well calculated".

"We do not fear escalation, yet do not seek it -- unlike Israel," he added.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Israel's future is uncertain now. Hezbollah's last attack to avenge its leader was a measured success. Many analysts have quipped over the last few days that targets deep inside Israel were accurately hit bypassing all the IDF defenses.

Like I say, only a 50km incursion into northern Israel/ Golan/ Sheeba farms would be a fatal move by Iran.

It will end the Zionist state.

 

[Lulldapull]

Gents it’s almost over no? There is no question about what Iran has done to Israel. It’s been a fatal blow. They can’t even defeat Hamas, what to speak of hezb or houthi or kataib or Syrians or PFLP or PIJ or ten other outfits each with tens of thousands of fighters. Many around the world will be very upset, but it’s already too late. Israel won’t survive this:

 

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Iran president warns of 'irreversible' consequences of wider regional war

Israel wants to drag the Middle East into a full-blown war by provoking Iran to join the nearly year-old conflict between Israel and Tehran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran's President said. Masoud Pezeshkian, speaking to journalists after his arrival in New York to attend the United Nations Gene

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Iran president warns of 'irreversible' consequences of wider regional war
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Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian in Basra, Iraq, September 13, 2024. REUTERS/Essam al-Sudani

Israel wants to drag the Middle East into a full-blown war by provoking Iran to join the nearly year-old conflict between Israel and Tehran-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon, Iran's President said.

Masoud Pezeshkian, speaking to journalists after his arrival in New York to attend the United Nations General Assembly, said: "We do not wish to be the cause of instability in the Middle East as its consequences would be irreversible".

"We want to live in peace, we don't want war," he added. "It is Israel that seeks to create this all-out conflict."

He added: "We will defend any group that is defending its rights and itself" after being asked whether Iran will enter the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. He did not elaborate.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran's dismantling Israel folks.......but this new moderate prez. has put this dismantling on hold pending a political solution.

Hard to believe how weak Israel's turned out to be. Iran's just waaaaaaaaaay too powerful now vs Israel.

There's only one solution now left doc. Persian Jews go back home to their motherland and Iran's already announced it to them. They are Persian citizens and have been there for 2,500 years and have totally earned their keep. The other one's (Jews), god help them.

About 200k Persian Jews in Israel gotta go back home now. And be safe over there. Iran's totally supporting them and encouraging them to return.

@Vsdoc

 

[Lulldapull]

 

[Saif]

No place in Iran' that Israel can't reach: Netanyahu

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Iran on Friday that Israel will strike if it is hit first and warned that his country can reach any part of the cleric-run state as he vowed to fight on in Gaza.

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No place in Iran' that Israel can't reach: Netanyahu
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Published: 27 Sep 2024, 22: 05

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu holds maps as he speaks during the 79th Session of the United Nations General Assembly at the United Nations headquarters in New York City on 27 September, 2024. AFP

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned Iran on Friday that Israel will strike if it is hit first and warned that his country can reach any part of the cleric-run state as he vowed to fight on in Gaza.

"I have a message for the tyrants of Tehran. If you strike us, we will strike you," Netanyahu told the UN General Assembly.

"There is no place in Iran that the long arm of Israel cannot reach, and that's true of the entire Middle East."

Delegates, including from Lebanon and the Palestinian territories, exited the room as Netanyahu took the rostrum for his address amid a mix of cheers and angry yells.

"After I heard the lies and slanders leveled at my country by many of the speakers at this podium, I decided to come here and set the record straight," Netanyahu said at the start of his speech.

Ahead of his speech, protesters gathered outside Netanyahu's hotel in New York to demand an end to the violence in Gaza and Lebanon.

'Deadliest period'

On Wednesday, the United States, France and other allies unveiled a 21-day truce proposal, after President Joe Biden and his French counterpart, Emmanuel Macron, met on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York.

The White House has said that the call for a ceasefire had been "coordinated" with Israel, but Netanyahu's office on Thursday said that the prime minister has not responded to the proposal.

"It is an American-French proposal, which the prime minister has not even responded to," said a statement from Netanyahu's office, adding that he had ordered the army "to continue the fighting with full force."

Hezbollah and Israel have been locked in a deadly exchange of cross-border fire since the Iran-backed group's Palestinian ally, Hamas, attacked Israel on 7 October.

Netanyahu vowed Friday that "Hamas has got to go" and would have no role in the reconstruction of Gaza as he vowed to fight until "total victory."

Since Monday, Israel has shifted its focus from Gaza to its northern front with Lebanon where heavy bombing has killed 700 people and sparked an exodus of around 118,000 people.

Netanyahu said Israel would continue Lebanon strikes "until we meet our objectives."

The UN said Friday that a "catastrophic" intensification of Israeli attacks targeting Hezbollah militants had left Lebanon facing its "deadliest period... in a generation."

The Israeli strikes have brought the overall death toll in Lebanon to more than 1,500 people killed in nearly a year of clashes, according to Lebanese authorities.

That toll surpasses the 1,200 mostly civilians killed during the 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, which also killed around 160 people in Israel, most of them soldiers.​

 

[Lulldapull]

No place in Israel that Iran can’t reach. The wars inside Israel…..not inside Iran!

Iran is winning and it’s not funny. All the worthless do ttakkay k loser neighbors looking on in awe. Totally helpless. They can’t do shiit or the west cuts off their funding.

@Vsdoc

 

[Ghazi52]

Most probable chain of events which led to the assassination of Hassan Nasrullah.

Supply chain sabotage
pager attack/device explosions
communications cut-off /1000's KIA/injured
Hezbullah was forced to switch to other means
Mossad got into their new comm network
IDAF did the rest

 

[Ghazi52]

Hezbollah fires 65 rockets at Israel after Hassan Nasrallah's martyrdom in Beirut​

In response to the rocket fire from Lebanon, IDF fighter jets struck several Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon.

 

[Saif]

Iran vows response to Guards deputy commander killing in Lebanon

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi said on Sunday that the killing by Israel of an Iranian Revolutionary Guards deputy commander in Beirut was a “horrible crime” that would not go unanswered. Brigadier General Abbas Nilforoushan was killed in the Israeli strikes on Beirut on F

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Iran vows response to Guards deputy commander killing in Lebanon
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Sep 29, 2024 16:51
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Sep 29, 2024 16:51

Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a parliamentary candidate, casts his vote at a mosque in downtown Tehran, Iran February 21, 2020. Hamed Malekpour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/FilesMohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a parliamentary candidate, casts his vote at a mosque in downtown Tehran, Iran February 21, 2020. Hamed Malekpour/WANA (West Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf, a parliamentary candidate, casts his vote at a mosque in downtown Tehran, Iran February 21, 2020. Photo : Hamed Malekpour/WANA (West Asia News Agency) via REUTERS/FilesAsia News Agency) via REUTERS/Files

Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi said on Sunday that the killing by Israel of an Iranian Revolutionary Guards deputy commander in Beirut was a “horrible crime” that would not go unanswered.

Brigadier General Abbas Nilforoushan was killed in the Israeli strikes on Beirut on Friday in which Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah also died.

“There is no doubt that this horrible crime committed by the Zionist regime (Israel) will not go unanswered,” Araqchi said in a statement addressed to the commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Major General Hossein Salami.

Earlier on Sunday, Iran’s parliament speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf said that Iran-alligned armed groups would carry on confronting Israel with Tehran’s help following the killing of Nasrallah, Iranian state media reported.

An alliance known as the Axis of Resistance, built up over decades with Iranian support, includes the Palestinian group Hamas, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Yemen’s Houthis, and various Shi’ite Muslim armed groups in Iraq and Syria.

“We will not hesitate to go to any level in order to help the resistance,” Qalibaf said.

He also issued a warning to the United States.

“The US is complicit in all of these crimes and...has to accept the repercussions,” he said.

Iran’s Vice-President for Strategic Affairs Mohammad Javad Zarif, asked about Nasrallah’s assassination, told state media on Sunday Iran would react at an appropriate time of its choosing against Israel.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Most probable chain of events which led to the assassination of Hassan Nasrullah.

Supply chain sabotage
pager attack/device explosions
communications cut-off /1000's KIA/injured
Hezbullah was forced to switch to other means
Mossad got into their new comm network
IDAF did the rest

Its a temp setback. The initiative is always with Iran and its resistance proxies. Iran will be there for the next 2500 years, no problem. We can't say the same for Israel.

 

[Sharma Ji]

inke bas ki nahi hai

kitni beizzati karvange apni aakhir ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Lulldapull]

inke bas ki nahi hai

kitni beizzati karvange apni aakhir ?

What beizzati? Iran has killed more than 5,000 Israelis using its proxies. It’s sitting 1200 kms away from ijhh-raheel safe n sound. US or Israel make one wrong move Iran will take thousands of US troops hostage in the Sy-Raaq, without a problem. And destroy GCC oil wells and refineries/ export terminals. Shut down the Persian Gulf aur phir teri cheekhain niklain gee. Cuz Iran will shut you down too.

Your economy will collapse if Iran shuts down da gulf.

And Iran can target you very effectively, but you don't got the weapons to retaliate.

We know dis.

 

[Lulldapull]

@Vsdoc @Sharma Ji

Look at this. Trump ka ulla thinks Iran is like Sawdi Judea or Al-turkiya....lol

 

[Saif]

Israel vows response after Iran hits it with salvo of ballistic missiles

Israeli military says attacks serious, will have consequences

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Israel vows response after Iran hits it with salvo of ballistic missiles

Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile system intercepts rockets, as seen from Ashkelon, Israel, October 1, 2024 Photo: Reuters/Amir Cohen
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• Iran says attack is retaliation for deaths of militant leaders​
• Washington promises severe consequences​
• US fired about a dozen interceptors, it says​

Iran fired a salvo of ballistic missiles at Israel on Tuesday in retaliation for Israel's campaign against Tehran's Hezbollah allies in Lebanon, drawing vows of a sharp response from both Israel and the United States.

Alarms sounded across Israel and explosions could be heard in Jerusalem and the Jordan River valley. Israelis piled into bomb shelters and reporters on state television lay flat on the ground during live broadcasts.

Israel said more than 180 missiles were launched into Israel from Iran and Israeli air defences were activated to intercept them. US Navy warships fired about a dozen interceptors against Iranian missiles headed toward Israel, the Pentagon said.

Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps said the assault was in retaliation for recent Israeli killings of militant leaders and aggression in Lebanon and Gaza. Its forces used hypersonic Fattah missiles for the first time, and 90% of its missiles successfully hit their targets in Israel, the Revolutionary Guards said.

No injuries were reported in Israel, but one man was killed in the occupied West Bank, authorities there said.

Rockets fly in the sky, amid cross-border hostilities between Hezbollah and Israel, as seen from Tel Aviv, Israel, October 1, 2024. Photo: Reuters/Ammar Awad

Israeli officials promised consequences for the onslaught. Israeli Major General Herzi Halevi said in a statement: "We will choose when to collect the price, and prove our precise and surprising attack capabilities, in accordance with the guidance of the political leadership."

Washington backed up its longtime ally. "We have made clear that there will be consequences, severe consequences, for this attack, and we will work with Israel to make that the case," spokesman Jake Sullivan said at a White House briefing.

Sullivan did not specify what those consequences might be, but he stopped short of urging restraint by Israel as the US did in April when Iran carried out a drone and missile attack on Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and a few other ministers were meeting in a bunker near Jerusalem, where the security cabinet was due to convene shortly, two Israeli officials said.

Iran said if Israel retaliated Tehran's response would be "more crushing and ruinous". Tehran targeted three Israeli military bases in its attack, Iran's state news agency said.

People take shelter during an air raid siren, amid cross-border hostilities between Hezbollah and Israel, in central Israel October 1, 2024. Photo: Reuters/Ronen Zvulun

Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian said in a social media post: "This is just part of our capability. Do not get into a confrontation with Iran."

A senior Iranian official told Reuters the order to launch missiles at Israel had been made by the country's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Khamenei remains in a secure location, the senior official added.

Oil prices shot up 5% on the news of the Iranian missile strikes, which raise the prospect of a wider war between the two arch enemies.

The previous round of Iranian missiles fired at Israel in April - the first ever - were shot down with the help of the US military and other allies. Israel responded at the time with airstrikes in Iran, but wider escalation was averted.

The Pentagon said the scope of Tuesday's airstrikes was about twice the size of April's assault.

ESCALATION IN LEBANON

Iran had vowed to retaliate following Israeli strikes that killed the top leadership of its ally Hezbollah in Lebanon, including the group's leader Hassan Nasrallah, a towering figure in Iran's network of fighters across the region.

Hamas, the Iran-backed militant group in Gaza, praised the Iranian missile strikes, saying they avenged Israeli assassinations of three militant leaders, including Nasrallah.

In Washington, US President Joe Biden said the United States was prepared to help Israel defend itself from Iranian missile attacks, and Sullivan said the president was tracking developments "minute by minute."

UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres condemned what he called "escalation after escalation", saying: "This must stop. We absolutely need a ceasefire."

Israel in a post on X criticised Guterres for not holding "Iran responsible for firing 181 ballistic missiles at 10 million Israeli civilians."

Israel said overnight that its troops had launched ground raids into Lebanon, though it described the forays as limited.

In Beirut, Israeli strikes killed the commander of the Imam Hussein division, Israel's military said, referring to a Hezbollah-linked group based in Syria.

Nearly 1,900 people have been killed and more than 9,000 wounded in Lebanon in nearly a year of cross-border fighting, most in the past two weeks, according to Lebanese government statistics on Tuesday.

But a ground campaign into Lebanon for the first time in 18 years pitting Israeli soldiers against Hezbollah, Iran's best-armed proxy force in the Middle East, would be a major regional escalation.​

 

[Saif]

Iran fires 180 missiles at Israel

Iran launched around 180 missiles at Israel last night in response to the killings of Tehran-backed militant leaders, prompting alarm across the region and vows of retaliation.

www.thedailystar.net

Iran fires 180 missiles at Israel
IDF says the attack will have consequences

Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile system intercepts rockets fired by Iran, as seen from Ashkelon, Israel, yesterday. Photo: Reuters

Iran launched around 180 missiles at Israel last night in response to the killings of Tehran-backed militant leaders, prompting alarm across the region and vows of retaliation.

Most of the missiles were intercepted by Israeli air defences or by allied air forces before they reached Israel.

"Missiles were launched from Iran towards the State of Israel," the Israeli military said in a statement, as sirens sounded nationwide, announcing after about an hour that the attack was over with a "large number" of missiles intercepted.

Israeli medics reported two people were lightly injured by shrapnel in the country's centre, while in the occupied West Bank, a Palestinian was killed in Jericho "when pieces of a rocket fell from the sky and hit him", the city's governor Hussein Hamayel told AFP.

It was Iran's second direct attack on Israel after a missile and drone attack in April in response to a deadly Israeli air strike on the Iranian consulate in Damascus.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards said they had launched a missile attack on "three military bases" around Israel's commercial hub Tel Aviv.

They said the attack was in response to Israel's killing of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah last week as well as the death of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in a Tehran bombing widely blamed on Israel.

UN chief Antonio Guterres condemned the "broadening conflict in the Middle East", saying in a statement: "This must stop. We absolutely need a ceasefire."

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the Iranian attack was "unacceptable" and called on the whole world to condemn it.

Israeli airspace was closed for several hours with all flights diverted, a spokesman for the airport authority said.

Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan, which lie between Iran and Israel, closed their airspace too.

As the missiles made their way to Israel from the east, blasts were heard over the Jordanian capital Amman, as Israel's allies moved to intercept them, an AFP correspondent said.

Jordan said its air defences responded to missiles and drones.

US President Joe Biden ordered the military to "aid Israel's defence" and shoot down Iranian missiles, the White House said.

While Iran-backed groups across the region had already been drawn into the Gaza war, sparked by Palestinian group Hamas's October 7 attack on Israel, Tehran had largely refrained from direct attacks on its regional foe.

- 'Direct conflict' -

Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said the latest Iranian "attack will have consequences. We have plans, and we will operate at the place and time we decide".

Iran's Revolutionary Guards said that "If the Zionist regime reacts to Iranian operations, it will face crushing attacks", according to a statement carried by the Fars news agency.

French Prime Minister Michel Barnier said he was concerned about "a direct conflict that seems to be underway between Iran and Israel".

Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said on social media platform X that the attack was "leading the region further towards the abyss".

Iran-backed group Hamas praised the Iranian attack, saying it was "in revenge for the blood of our heroic martyrs".

And Tehran-aligned armed factions in Iraq threatened to target "all" US forces in the country if Iran comes under attack.

The escalation came after the Israeli military early Tuesday said troops had started "targeted ground raids" in south Lebanon, across Israel's northern border.

The Israeli ground offensive came despite growing calls for de-escalation after a week of air strikes that killed hundreds in Lebanon, including Hassan Nasrallah, the powerful leader of Iran-backed militant group Hezbollah.

Iran has said Nasrallah's killing will bring about Israel's "destruction", though the foreign ministry said Monday that Tehran would not deploy any troops to confront Israel.

The Pentagon said the United States was boosting its forces in the Middle East by a "few thousand" troops.

- 'Greater suffering' -

In Lebanon, the UN peacekeeping mission said the Israeli offensive did not amount to a "ground incursion" and Hezbollah denied any troops had crossed the border.

There was no way to immediately verify the claims, which came as Israel struck south Beirut, Damascus and Gaza, despite international calls for restraint to avoid a regional conflagration.

"We fear a large-scale ground invasion by Israel into Lebanon would only result in greater suffering," said UN human rights office spokeswoman Liz Throssell.

Israel's defence minister warned the fight was far from over, even after a massive strike on Beirut killed Nasrallah on Friday.

Israel seeks to dismantle Hezbollah's military capabilities and restore security to the north, where tens of thousands have been displaced by nearly a year of cross-border fire.

The Iran-backed group, which suffered heavy losses in a spate of attacks last month, said it targeted Israeli army bases on Tuesday.

Separately, a suspected shooting attack in Tel Aviv on Tuesday evening killed at least four people, police said.

Lebanon's Health Minister Firass Abiad said more than 1,000 people have been killed since September 17.

Lebanese Prime Minister Najib Mikati and the UN humanitarian agency appealed for more than $400 million in aid for the displaced, estimating there could be as many as one million.

- Gaza strikes -

Hezbollah began low intensity strikes on Israeli troops a day after its Palestinian ally Hamas staged its unprecedented attack on Israel on October 7, which triggered Israel's devastating assault on Gaza.

In central Beirut, Youssef Amir, displaced from southern Lebanon, said: "I have lost my home and relatives in this war, but all of that is a sacrifice for Lebanon, for Hezbollah".

Beirut resident Elie Jabour, 27, told AFP that despite opposing Hezbollah "politically... I support them defending the border".

Later, as Iran launched missiles, celebratory gunfire erupted from Hezbollah's bastion in Beirut's southern suburbs.

In Gaza, the civil defence agency said Israeli bombing killed 19 people on Tuesday.

Hamas's October 7 attack on Israel resulted in the deaths of 1,205 people, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally based on Israeli official figures that include hostages killed in captivity.

Israel's retaliatory military offensive has killed at least 41,638 people in Gaza, most of them civilians, according to figures provided by the Hamas-run territory's health ministry. The UN has described the figures as reliable.​

 

[Saif]

Iran threatens 'crushing attacks' if Israel responds

Palestinians investigate a projectile, after Iran fired a salvo of ballistic missiles, in Tubas, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, October 1, 2024. Photo: Reuters/Raneen Sawafta

Iran's Revolutionary Guards threatened to carry out "crushing attacks" against arch-foe Israel if it retaliates for a missile attack by the Islamic republic on Tuesday.

"If the Zionist regime reacts to Iranian operations, it will face crushing attacks," the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said in a statement carried by the Fars news agency.

The IRGC said the attack was "in accordance with the United Nations Charter".

It said the missile attack came "after a period of restraint" following an "attack on the sovereignty" of Iran -- a reference to the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran in late July.

The IRGC said the missile attacks targeted "three military bases" around Tel Aviv as well as air and radar bases, adding that "90 percent" of the missiles "hit their targets".

The United States had earlier warned of an imminent Iranian ballistic missile attack on Israel, and said it would have "severe" consequences for Tehran.

Iran's President Masoud Pezeshkian hailed the country's "decisive response" to what he called the Israeli "aggression".

Iranian media carried online footage of what they said were missiles being fired at Israel.

State television played upbeat music over the footage as its newscaster spoke of "the brave Iranian people".

It broadcast images of residents of Iran's second city Mashhad celebrating the missile attack in the streets, waving the yellow flag of Hezbollah and portraits of the Lebanese group's slain chief Hassan Nasrallah.

Gaza ceasefire efforts

Similar celebrations also took place in the capital Tehran and in several provincial cities.

Tuesday's attack was Iran's second on Israel, after a missile and drone attack in April in retaliation for a deadly Israeli air strike on Iran's consulate in Damascus.

Nearly all of the missiles and drones fired in that attack were intercepted by Israel or its allies.

An Israeli air strike on Beirut on Friday killed Nasrallah, whose militant group has been armed and financed by Iran for years.

Nasrallah was killed alongside General Abbas Nilforoushan, a top commander of the Quds Force, the IRGC's foreign operations arm.

Iran vowed that Nilforoushan's killing would "not go unanswered".

At last month's UN General Assembly in New York, Pezeshkian accused Israel of warmongering as Iran exercised restraint.

He suggested Tehran had held back retaliation for Haniyeh's killing, fearing that it could derail US-backed efforts for a ceasefire in the Gaza war.

"We tried to not respond. They kept telling us we were within reach of peace, perhaps in a week or so," he said.

On Sunday, Pezeshkian said promises by the United States and its allies of a "ceasefire in exchange for Iran's non-reaction to Haniyeh's killing were completely false".

He added that "giving these criminals (Israel) a chance would only encourage them to commit more crimes".

Iran does not recognise Israel, and has made support for the Palestinian cause a centrepiece of its foreign policy since the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

Tehran hailed its ally Hamas's October 7 attack on Israel, which triggered the Gaza war, but denied any involvement.

Regional tensions have soared since the outbreak of the Gaza war, drawing in Iran-aligned groups from Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.​

 

[Saif]

Iran launched twice as many missiles as in last attack on Israel: Pentagon

Iran launched about twice as many ballistic missiles Tuesday as it did in its previous direct attack on Israel earlier this year, the Pentagon said

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Iran launched twice as many missiles as in last attack on Israel: Pentagon

Palestinians investigate a projectile, after Iran fired a salvo of ballistic missiles, in Tubas, in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, October 1, 2024. Photo: Reuters/Raneen Sawafta

Iran launched about twice as many ballistic missiles Tuesday as it did in its previous direct attack on Israel earlier this year, the Pentagon said.

The attack was "about twice as large in terms of the number of ballistic missiles that they launched," Pentagon spokesman Major General Pat Ryder told journalists.

"Initial reports indicate that Israel was able to intercept the majority of incoming missiles and that there was minimal damage on the ground," Ryder said, noting that two American destroyers fired about a dozen interceptors as part of the defensive effort.

Iran said its latest attack on Israel was in response to the killing of Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah last week and Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in late July.

It followed another wave of drones and missiles launched by Iran in April in the wake of an air strike blamed on Israel that hit Tehran's diplomatic mission in Damascus.​

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran's totally trashed trillion dollar western ABM systems and defenses. The vids online are very bad and have totally destroyed Israeli and the western military industry's reputation.

@Vsdoc .......bhai in Iranio ko aap samjhao to let Israel live as a nobody. In key 'gaand maarna' aur vo bhee sub k saamnay? is very bad behavior of Iran. Iss tarha sub k saamnay putloon utaar dena is unacceptable behavior of Iran.

Can the Parsi's talk to the IRGC and the Zionists to put the Zionists under Irani control and end this jahil drama?

Doc, the Al-Yahuday got no where to go. 60% Ijh-raheeli are coluddz......They'd be treated like bhungi in the EU and the arabs won't take em back after all the bad blood. Their only hope now is to suck up to Iran and come under Irani protection vurna the arabs will eat them alive. The hillbillay don't care and want to get rid of them.

I'm talking to my irani yahudi phraandzz and this is their suggestion. Just come under Irani protection, vurna bohot bura ho ga!

Persian Jews gotta go home bhai.

 

[Vsdoc]

Iran's totally trashed trillion dollar western ABM systems and defenses. The vids online are very bad and have totally destroyed Israeli and the western military industry's reputation.

@Vsdoc .......bhai in Iranio ko aap samjhao to let Israel live as a nobody. In key 'gaand maarna' aur vo bhee sub k saamnay? is very bad behavior of Iran. Iss tarha sub k saamnay putloon utaar dena is unacceptable behavior of Iran.

Can the Parsi's talk to the IRGC and the Zionists to put the Zionists under Irani control and end this jahil drama?

Doc, the Al-Yahuday got no where to go. 60% Ijh-raheeli are coluddz......They'd be treated like bhungi in the EU and the arabs won't take em back after all the bad blood. Their only hope now is to suck up to Iran and come under Irani protection vurna the arabs will eat them alive. The hillbillay don't care and want to get rid of them.

I'm talking to my irani yahudi phraandzz and this is their suggestion. Just come under Irani protection, vurna bohot bura ho ga!

Persian Jews gotta go home bhai.

For that there needs to be another Cyrus and Darius.

Let's see what the US does now.

400 is like a small percent of Iran's stockpile.

And the Iron Dome was completely exposed. Hope Indian phull sapport fanbois were/re watching.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Lulldapull]

For that there needs to be another Cyrus and Darius.

Let's see what the US does now.

400 is like a small percent of Iran's stockpile.

And the Iron Dome was completely exposed. Hope Indian phull sapport fanbois were/re watching.

Cheers, Doc

Yaar I get the feeling that behind the scenes Netanyahu is talking to Khamenei and negotiating for his life. Iran's got em totally surrounded and put under siege and if Israel's gotta rely on the west for survival then that ain't a life worth living.

You do realize the other far more sinister development here that if a sanctioned Iran can absolutely demolish the best western ABM systems easily, then what do we say about all these India/ Pakistan/ China/ Russian defense industries? These guys are all hopeless bhai.

Irans not only trashed the western defense industry but its done far more reputational damage to Russia/ China/ India/ Pakistan......

Pakistan needs to immediately get Irans hypersonics and their newer weapons and drones ASAP. All we got is junk. Bewaquff Pakistani generals got no clue on what's going on here.

I'm telling you doc after this ass beating delivered to Israel, Iran's right behind the US in military ranking. Pretty darn obvious now.

oh bhai forget all this, hamara kya banay ga ab? All we got is junk military's. Scrap heap?

We got nothing like these iranis? hum kya karain ab?

 

[Vsdoc]

Yaar I get the feeling that behind the scenes Netanyahu is talking to Khamenei and negotiating for his life. Iran's got em totally surrounded and put under siege and if Israel's gotta rely on the west for survival then that ain't a life worth living.

You do realize the other far more sinister development here that if a sanctioned Iran can absolutely demolish the best western ABM systems easily, then what do we say about all these India/ Pakistan/ China/ Russian defense industries? These guys are all hopeless bhai.

Irans not only trashed the western defense industry but its done far more reputational damage to Russia/ China/ India/ Pakistan......

Pakistan needs to immediately get Irans hypersonics and their newer weapons and drones ASAP. All we got is junk. Bewaquff Pakistani generals got no clue on what's going on here.

I'm telling you doc after this ass beating delivered to Israel, Iran's right behind the US in military ranking. Pretty darn obvious now.

oh bhai forget all this, hamara kya banay ga ab? All we got is junk military's. Scrap heap?

We got nothing like these iranis? hum kya karain ab?

Was just having morning chai with a buddy, after his morning ride (put on weight and trying to lose some of it).

Discussing the same ...

India is making and testing hypersonics now. And we have access to all the world's technology. Western or Russian.

Very impressive. And sobering.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Why are you guys talking up Iran ? They are fuss tech wise.. saturation attack mein a few slip through.. and being the ekdum unguided rubbish projectiles they are, some end up hitting an apartment block or something

where/what is the achievement here ?

Israel continue to act with impunity and remain unchallenged.. Ayatullah saaley ki fati hui hai, he been taken to some undisclosed safe house

 

[Sharma Ji]

Ayatulleh ke safe house me bhi Yahudis ATGM chala denge... wait for it.

khomeni is next

 

[Lulldapull]

Why are you guys talking up Iran ? They are fuss tech wise.. saturation attack mein a few slip through.. and being the ekdum unguided rubbish projectiles they are, some end up hitting an apartment block or something

where/what is the achievement here ?

Israel continue to act with impunity and remain unchallenged.. Ayatullah saaley ki fati hui hai, he been taken to some undisclosed safe house

Few got thru? Oh bhai vidz dekh bicharay Israel ko kutta bana diya Iran nay.

I’m telling you now…..next time you open world power index or rankings, US k baad it will be irani’s sitting there.

They just trashed the whole western MIC hands down! Trillions of dollar k western ABM systems kon khareeday ga ab? After this humiliating defeat?

Don’t you see the implications of this event on western arms industry?

All these bitches will run to Iran now for their gadgets no?

Hell I wouldn’t accept iron dome or Arrow or David sling even for free I won’t take em now.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Few got thru? Oh bhai vidz dekh bicharay Israel ko kutta bana diya Iran nay.

I’m telling you now…..next time you open world power index or rankings, US k baad it will be irani’s sitting there.

They just trashed the whole western MIC hands down! Trillions of dollar k western ABM systems kon khareeday ga ab? After this humiliating defeat?

Don’t you see the implications of this event on western arms industry?

All these bitches will run to Iran now for their gadgets no?

Hell I wouldn’t accept iron dome or Arrow or David sling even for free I won’t take em now.

bhai, there is no fail safe anywhere. impossible, really, to stop a barrage.. that way toh even Hamas crude katushya and fateh whatever rockets used to get through.

if shite gets bad, like if the jews get in srs trouble.. fatt se US ne couple carrier groups bhej dene hai... already their Arleigh Burkes been intercepting houthi missiles for a year now.

there is no winning this war for Iranis, only losing honi hai unki.. it matters little ki they end up landing a punch or two.

 

[Sharma Ji]

@Vsdoc uddin sahab kahan hain ?

 

[Vsdoc]

Iran is getting closer to a test. This whole drama is for that watershed moment.

The world will not be the same after that.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran is getting closer to a test. This whole drama is for that watershed moment.

The world will not be the same after that.

abhi ek do mahiney ruk jao

US is in limbo.. udhar some clarity aayegi, then only mamla will further going.. one way or the other.

 

[Lulldapull]

abhi ek do mahiney ruk jao

US is in limbo.. udhar some clarity aayegi, then only mamla will further going.. one way or the other.

Oh bhai they’re just a few screw turns and switches away from going nuke. Happened so long ago. They’re now the only ones with a proven capability to penetrate the best ABM defense in the world. You guys or China chickunn or Russian sub saalay humbled big time yesterday…..it’s a defining moment this event from yesterday.

Here in Japan people are talking about reviving the long dormant Japanese defense complex because relying on the US is chutiappa.

Do you understand the reputation damage to Raytheon, Lockheed Martin or to Elbit, Elta or Raphael or Boeing this ass beating of Israel is generating?

Would India even consider purchasing western technology now?

 

[Vsdoc]

Cheers, Doc