[🇮🇷] Iran VS Israel

[Saif]

Source : https://www.newagebd.net/post/Middle%20East/241057/iran-warns-of-consequences-of-israeli-attacks-on-lebanon

Iran warns of 'consequences' of Israeli attacks on Lebanon
Agence France-Presse . Tehran 28 July, 2024, 13:56

Israeli security forces gather near a site where a reported strike from Lebanon fell in Majdal Shams village in the Israeli-annexed Golan area on July 27, 2024. | AFP photo
Iran on Sunday warned Israel that any new military 'adventures' in Lebanon could lead to 'unforeseen consequences'.

Israel blamed Tehran-backed Hezbollah for a deadly rocket strike in the Israel-annexed Golan Heights.

'Any ignorant action of the Zionist regime can lead to the broadening of the scope of instability, insecurity and war in the region,' said foreign ministry spokesman Nasser Kanani.

He added that Israel will be responsible for 'the unforeseen consequences and reactions to such stupid behaviour'.

Hezbollah, which on Saturday claimed multiple attacks on Israeli military positions following a deadly raid on southern Lebanon, has denied responsibility for the rocket fire that Israeli authorities said killed 12 people including children in the Druze town of Majdal Shams.

Kanani accused Israel of pinning the blame on Hezbollah 'to divert public opinion and world attention from its massive crimes' in the Gaza Strip, where war has raged since October 7.

He added that Israel 'does not have the least moral authority to comment' on the deaths in Majdal Shams, on the Golan Heights which the country seized from Syria in 1967 and later annexed in a move not recognised by the United Nations.

Iran does not recognise Israel and has made support for the Palestinian cause a centrepiece of its foreign policy since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

The Islamic republic has hailed Hamas's October 7 attack on Israel that sparked the Gaza war but denied any involvement.​

 

[Saif]

Iran, allies plan joint retaliation against Israel

Iran and armed groups backed by it are preparing coordinated action meant to deter Israel but avert all-out war, sources and analysts said, after the killings of top Hamas and Hezbollah figures.

www.thedailystar.net

Iran, allies plan joint retaliation against Israel
Say sources, analysts

Iran and armed groups backed by it are preparing coordinated action meant to deter Israel but avert all-out war, sources and analysts said, after the killings of top Hamas and Hezbollah figures.

On Wednesday, Iranian officials met in Tehran with representatives of the so-called "axis of resistance" -- a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel -- to discuss retaliation for the deaths of Hamas's leader and Hezbollah's top military commander, said a source close to Lebanese group.

"Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party," the source who had been briefed on the meeting told AFP, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei threatened a "harsh punishment" for the killing of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran, which the group blamed on Israel, also vowing revenge.

Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah was speaking yesterday at the funeral of Fuad Shukr, the group's top commander leading operations in Lebanon's south, where the group has been exchanging near-daily fire with Israel since the Gaza offensive began in October.

"There is a very strong likelihood that the response will be coordinated... among other resistance actors," said Amal Saad, a Hezbollah researcher and lecturer at Britain's Cardiff University.​

 

[Saif]

US announces deployment of more warships in Mideast

The United States will bolster its military presence in the Middle East, deploying additional warships and fighter jets to protect US personnel and defend Israel amid...

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US announces deployment of more warships in Mideast
Agence France-Presse . Washington 03 August, 2024, 22:11

| AFP file photo

The United States will bolster its military presence in the Middle East, deploying additional warships and fighter jets to protect US personnel and defend Israel amid soaring tensions in the region, the Pentagon said Friday.

The announcement comes after Iran and its regional allies vowed retaliation for the killings of a Hamas leader in Tehran and a Hezbollah commander in Beirut, fueling fears of a broader Middle East conflict.

'The Department of Defense continues to take steps to mitigate the possibility of regional escalation by Iran or Iran's partners and proxies,' deputy Pentagon Press Secretary Sabrina Singh said in a statement.

'Since the horrific Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, the Secretary of Defense has reiterated that the United States will protect our personnel and interests in the region, including our ironclad commitment to the defense of Israel.'

The aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS Abraham Lincoln will replace one helmed by the USS Theodore Roosevelt in the region, Singh said.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has also ordered additional ballistic missile defense-capable cruisers and destroyers to the Middle East and areas under US European Command, as well as a new fighter squadron to the Middle East.

Israel killed Hezbollah commander Fuad Shukr in Beirut on Tuesday, a move it said was a response to deadly rocket fire last week on the annexed Golan Heights.

Hours later, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was killed in the Iranian capital—an attack on which Israel has not yet commented.

A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that Iranian officials met in Tehran on Wednesday with representatives of the so-called 'axis of resistance,' a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel, to discuss their next steps.

'Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party,' said the source, who had been briefed on the meeting, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

In April, Iran carried out its first direct attack on Israeli soil, firing a barrage of drones and missiles after a strike blamed on Israel killed Revolutionary Guards at Tehran's consulate in Damascus.

American forces helped defend Israel against the attack.

'As we have demonstrated since October and again in April, the United States' global defense is dynamic and the Department of Defense retains the capability to deploy on short notice to meet evolving national security threats,' Singh said.

'The United States also remains intently focused on de-escalating tensions in the region and pushing for a ceasefire as part of a hostage deal to bring the hostages home and end the war in Gaza.'​

 

[Lulldapull]

The reports from many sources suggest Irans given its proxies downgraded weaponry on purpose. If the actual anti ship ballistic missile gets used on a nuke carrier, that carrier would be no more!

More importantly if the nuke core of that carrier gets compromised, it will be an ecological and environmental disaster for the Houthis or Hezbollah or kataib or PMUs or even the Israeli.

Iran can’t be held responsible if a missile finds a bad target and there is a catastrophe.

Most Iranian missiles ‘miss’ da targets because of the likelihood of global condemnation.

 

[Lulldapull]

I’ve initiated a discussion on our other forum that if Iran is having one hell of a time penetrating IDF defenses, what hope in hell do other chumps like India or China have in trying to emulate Iran?

There generally is silence but the Indians get unnerved because of the seriousness of this question.

Facts are that countries like India or even China with third class weaponry have sweet fukk all chance of beating the worlds strongest ABM and anti drone defenses. It’s fairly obvious. They don’t got jack shiit!

All of Chinese and Indian weaponry don’t even got the reach let alone the capability to penetrate western ABM defenses installed in Israel.

The silence is quite telling on our other forum.

It’s a sad reminder of how far behind Iran we all are in conducting modern warfare.

Iran penetrates IDF defenses on a daily basis. Our jharrnail need to get a reality check on how pathetic our situation will be if we are asked to do what the Iranians doing daily.

Does anyone understand the seriousness of this reality?

We need a conference in Pakistan on how warfare is changing and how far behind we actually are from the leading global powers.

 

[Lulldapull]

I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

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او بھائی ہم نے آج تک ایک میزائیل نہیں چلایا ہے جنگ مین۔ اور نہ کبھی انڈیا نہ کبھی کبھی چین نہ۔

اسرائیل کے اے بی ایم دفاع کو شکست دینا کوئی آسان کام نہیں ہے۔

اس میزائل یا ڈرون شوبے مین ہمارا کوئی تاجوربہ نہیں ہے۔

ایران ڈیلی ہملے کرتا ہے ڈرون اور میزیل سے۔ ایران کا بوہت تاجوربہ ہے اور اپنا تمم میزیل اور ڈرون خود بناتا ہے۔

 

[TheNewb77]

I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

This post is written with the help of ChatGPT. Thank you

Not a a bad assessment. Might I add that, unlike the Pakistanis, Iranians do not have strong battle tactics. I commend Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and other resistance groups like the Houthis for playing smart long-term gameplay and making critical decisions in the grand scheme of things - but I do not see them as battle hardened and wise as the Pakistani military in battle tactics. Pakistan can outwit many opponents in the ground-to-ground battlefield. While, if Iran went for a full fledged war with Israel, it would be outclassed in battle tactics (also due to the fact that the Israelis play dirty).

 

[Lulldapull]

Check this out folks........I believe Iran's planning some sort of a repeat of Oct 7th. An operation that will kill thousands of Israeli's. If this works, Israel's back will be broken:

Iran’s Revenge Plan Surprising, Unknown to Israel: Ex-IRGC Intelligence Chief - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s retaliatory response to the Israeli regime in revenge for the assassination of the Hamas chief in Tehran is going to surprise the Zionist regime, the former head of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps Intelligence Organization said.

www.tasnimnews.com