[🇮🇷] Iranian Chill Corner

[Lulldapull]

Gents that MBS is pretty smart. He figured it out after a good decade or so that he's being played by the US like a gullible tribal. It took him a couple hundred billion wasting money in Yemen and another few hundred billion wasting it in the Sy-Raaq that he ain't goin win and the best thing to do is to not do what the US is telling him to do..... .......It's rare that leaders learn from their mistakes, but he seems to have done the impossible. Now there is no more drama between him and Irani's. MBS has basically told Biden, that you wanna go fight da Irani mulla, bhai......you are most welcome, but you go do it yourself and don't involve us.......lol

 

[Ario]

Israel is the key to that. By supporting Israel in defeating the Ayatollah regime, Iran will be free and a revolution there might inspire Pakistanis to do the same. And maybe even others.

Another Middle Eastern spring.

it Is typical of a Turks to side with Israel the same way Erdogan helping Israel to kill Palestinian. If anything the Iranian people need to standup and take the land without any foreign intervention. We Iranian have a different mindset and mentality when it comes to some random strangers trying to teach us how to live our life than you are wrong arkadaš but seems Turks are ok of having some foreigners dictating to them about what do or not. Having a foreign military bases in the country is big shame for us Iranian and I guess it is not much for the Turks. Your response to lulldapull reagarding being something else was very arrogant. I went to Turkey and found majority of people being superficial and money grabber.. if there is a country in the ME that you should not trust It is Turkey. When a spring in Turkey to get rid of Erdogan and his son?

 

[Lulldapull]

it Is typical of a Turks to side with Israel the same way Erdogan helping Israel to kill Palestinian. If anything the Iranian people need to standup and take the land without any foreign intervention. We Iranian have a different mindset and mentality when it comes to some random strangers trying to teach us how to live our life than you are wrong arkadaš but seems Turks are ok of having some foreigners dictating to them about what do or not. Having a foreign military bases in the country is big shame for us Iranian and I guess it is not much for the Turks. Your response to lulldapull reagarding being something else was very arrogant. I went to Turkey and found majority of people being superficial and money grabber.. if there is a country in the ME that you should not trust It is Turkey. When a spring in Turkey to get rid of Erdogan and his son?

Bro Iran is totally on a different level than Pakistan or Turkey who depend on da west for survival. I mean if the ECB/ IMF/ WB stop da funding.....both those countries wouldn't last a few months. We all know this......The same if not worse for their military's. Look at Ukraine.....$250 billion and counting later and da Russians have turned their entire country into a pile of smoldering rubble. All conventional warfare that we knew has been turned on its head. No body wants F-35 or Su-35 or F-22 anymore and they don't want de Leopard tank or da Abrams or da PAC-2/3 nor da THAAD, cuz everyone's figured out its all billion dollar junk. Russia/ China/ Iran have shamelessly dismantled da west and its very sad. I'm scared for my poor country Pakistan because now we are in financial ruin and millions of our good/ simple/ humble people are in the crossfire. I just want my poor people to survive this 5th gen hybrid warfare.

 

[ThunderCat]

it Is typical of a Turks to side with Israel the same way Erdogan helping Israel to kill Palestinian. If anything the Iranian people need to standup and take the land without any foreign intervention. We Iranian have a different mindset and mentality when it comes to some random strangers trying to teach us how to live our life than you are wrong arkadaš but seems Turks are ok of having some foreigners dictating to them about what do or not. Having a foreign military bases in the country is big shame for us Iranian and I guess it is not much for the Turks. Your response to lulldapull reagarding being something else was very arrogant. I went to Turkey and found majority of people being superficial and money grabber.. if there is a country in the ME that you should not trust It is Turkey. When a spring in Turkey to get rid of Erdogan and his son?

I don't entirely disagree. I have always opposed bombing Iran as that would de-stabilize the whole region and even the world. Not to mention innocent civilians could be hurt/killed. It could even result in World War III.

The solution is to support Iranian freedom fighters inside Iran and help them overthrow the mullah regime and terminate the nuclear weapons program.

Such a revolution would also inspire Pakistanis and maybe even Arab states.

 

[ThunderCat]

Afghanistan needs to become secular first either by multifront invasion or another way. Once there is a revolution in Iran, it will also trigger a domino effect in Pakistan. First, We need to support MBS to crack down hard on the Wahabis in Saudi and then pressure Qatar to stop spending petrodollars behind all foreign fundamentalist groups and Pakistani madrassas. Fixing Qatar will also help Turkey to overthrow Erdogan and install a secular regime while cutting ties to all foreign fundamentalists. Then India must have a socialist/secular government. Russia/China must stop supporting Ayatullah too.

I don't see the Russian Federation ending support to the Ayatollahs anytime soon. They are long-term allies and they are dependent on Iran now more than ever.

 

[Aryobarzan]

Another day, another F*cking corrupt mullah ..Stole $100 million dollars property from the state and receives $ 33K monthly bribes from Regime related friends!!! Tehran's fu*king Friday prayer imam of Islamic Republic stable ..Iranians are now reporting these corrupt mullahs to the International reporting organizations since Iranian Reporters go to jail if they report on corruption of the regime.

Ayatollah Kazem Seddiqi, Friday prayer Imam of #Tehran & his son are now involved in one of the largest financial corruption cases in #Iran's history. Not only he accepted 4000 meters of land worth millions of dollars as a bribe in the best part of Tehran, but he also has received $33,000 USD per month in bribes from Naghsheh-Jahan Hotel in Mashhad!His friend, dictator suprem,e leader Ali Khamanei has ordered state media of Iranian regime to censor the new about corruption of Seddiqi and his son who is about to immigrate to Canada with his family.

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[Ario]

Another day, another F*cking corrupt mullah ..Stole $100 million dollars property from the state and receives $ 33K monthly bribes from Regime related friends!!! Tehran's fu*king Friday prayer imam of Islamic Republic stable ..Iranians are now reporting these corrupt mullahs to the International reporting organizations since Iranian Reporters go to jail if they report on corruption of the regime.

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Ayatollah Kazem Seddiqi, Friday prayer Imam of #Tehran & his son are now involved in one of the largest financial corruption cases in #Iran's history. Not only he accepted 4000 meters of land worth millions of dollars as a bribe in the best part of Tehran, but he also has received $33,000 USD per month in bribes from Naghsheh-Jahan Hotel in Mashhad!His friend, dictator suprem,e leader Ali Khamanei has ordered state media of Iranian regime to censor the new about corruption of Seddiqi and his son who is about to immigrate to Canada with his family.

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And they preach about haram and halal bs, no wonder Iranian are less religious now. I think this is a good thing for Iranian society to the true nature of religion. To me all Abrahmic religions are the same, very dangerous and manipulative.

 

[Old School]

And they preach about haram and halal bs, no wonder Iranian are less religious now. I think this is a good thing for Iranian society to the true nature of religion. To me all Abrahmic religions are the same, very dangerous and manipulative.

All Abrahamic religions were founded and consolidated by imperialist Kings. They wanted one religion, one people, and one rule. When you study them critically, you will see that they are all based on half-cooked fiction with little creativity. However, Abrahamic religions still retained some of the old-fashioned violent tribal nature. The more Abraham you pour in, the more corrupted society you get. Look at statistics. One doesn't need a religion to remain a law-abiding and peaceful person. Many other religions, such as Hinduism and Buddhism, now also operate more like Abrahamic religions by shifting from their historical heterodoxy. Lastly, all Abrahamic religions copied ideas from the Old Persian religions and many of their founding scholars were actually opportunists Persian converts.

 

[ThunderCat]

And they preach about haram and halal bs, no wonder Iranian are less religious now. I think this is a good thing for Iranian society to the true nature of religion. To me all Abrahmic religions are the same, very dangerous and manipulative.

I would agree how manipulatable they are. But at the end religion also brings a social order, something human have needed since the dawn of their existence.

 

[Lulldapull]

I don't see the Russian Federation ending support to the Ayatollahs anytime soon. They are long-term allies and they are dependent on Iran now more than ever.

Exactly! there was an article recently that with just the SCO nations alone Iran's doing $37 billion in annual business. And I bet you money they are under reporting that figure. My estimate tells me Iran's easily making a $100 billion annually (quite possible $130 billion or so), despite sanctions. Just with UAE/ Iraq/ Turkey/ Afghanistan/ Pakistan they are doing another $40 to $50 billion annually or so. And then the Mashad Ziarat business bhai.......That's all bonus! Keeping roughly a couple hundred thousand armed militia's on standby is big bucks! Israel is in a lot of trouble and Iran's basically laid siege on it. Daily 10 or 20 Israeli are getting killed/ injured in a country with only 7 million hollywood population.....lol.......I don't even believe Iran's lifted its finger yet. Mr Khamenei probably understands that if he dismantles the cosmopolitan/ metrosexual hably bably Al-Yahuda Star Wars/ Soopurr man/ Batman state of Israel, no hillbilly would ever talk to the Iranians again. They'd treat Iran worse than they treat North Korea or Talibunnies.

 

[Nevsky]

The solution is to support Iranian freedom fighters inside Iran and help them overthrow the mullah regime and terminate the nuclear weapons program.

Such a revolution would also inspire Pakistanis and maybe even Arab states.

A civil war in a country of 90 million people is a solution for what exactly?

 

[ThunderCat]

A civil war in a country of 90 million people is a solution for what exactly?

An overthrow of tyrannical regime that needs to be destroyed.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

I would like to visit Iran. But the Iranian foreign policy is so messed up. Their government is also very sectarian.

 

[Old School]

I would agree how manipulatable they are. But at the end religion also brings a social order, something human have needed since the dawn of their existence.

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

Personally I believe Pakistan should be an Islamic country, otherwise what was the point of partition?
If you want to live in a "secular" country you can go right to India then.

 

[ThunderCat]

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

There was no partition since the British Raj was not a country, just a mere colony. Nobody calls the desolation of British North America, which included Canada & America as "partition."

The other thing is religion is a part of human psyche. People tend to confuse it with theism, not realizing it is just a mere example of religion.

For example Marxism is also a religion, just not theistic. Many communist countries persecuted and killed people suspected of being affiliated with theism or simply being opposed to Marxist ideology.

Now in Western countries we can see with the decline of Christianity, new religions such as environmentalism, veganism and holocaust worship are taking it's place.

None of them seem to be progressive and even counter beneficial. So religion is here to stay.

To understand the effects of religion, we have to study human psychology, sociology and related topics. Theology does not help in this regard.

It's a common belief system shared amongst humans. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong or particularly right or wrong does not matter.

Humans as a social species are driven by a common set of values and habits and held together on these basis, wheather right or wrong.

That has defined our social/psychological characteristics as a species since probably the dawn of our existence.

 

[Old School]

There was no partition since the British Raj was not a country, just a mere colony. Nobody calls the desolation of British North America, which included Canada & America as "partition."

The other thing is religion is a part of human psyche. People tend to confuse it with theism, not realizing it is just a mere example of religion.

For example Marxism is also a religion, just not theistic. Many communist countries persecuted and killed people suspected of being affiliated with theism or simply being opposed to Marxist ideology.

Now in Western countries we can see with the decline of Christianity, new religions such as environmentalism, veganism and holocaust worship are taking it's place.

None of them seem to be progressive and even counter beneficial. So religion is here to stay.

To understand the effects of religion, we have to study human psychology, sociology and related topics. Theology does not help in this regard.

It's a common belief system shared amongst humans. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong or particularly right or wrong does not matter.

Humans as a social species are driven by a common set of values and habits and held together on these basis, weather right or wrong.

That has defined our social/psychological characteristics as a species since probably the dawn of our existence.

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

It should be practiced in balance, including minimizing or even eliminating it's role in politics.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

 

[Old School]

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

Those non- deity religions like woke cultures do not subjugate societies like ours. There are strong oppositions in the western societies to keep them at bay. We don't have any critical opposition in Pakistan against religious extremism. People will simply die if they do it. Even Imran Khan made alliances with extreme religious elements. Religion is a business and power tool in our country.