[🇮🇷] Iranian Chill Corner

[Nevsky]

The solution is to support Iranian freedom fighters inside Iran and help them overthrow the mullah regime and terminate the nuclear weapons program.

Such a revolution would also inspire Pakistanis and maybe even Arab states.

A civil war in a country of 90 million people is a solution for what exactly?

 

[ThunderCat]

A civil war in a country of 90 million people is a solution for what exactly?

An overthrow of tyrannical regime that needs to be destroyed.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

I would like to visit Iran. But the Iranian foreign policy is so messed up. Their government is also very sectarian.

 

[Old School]

I would agree how manipulatable they are. But at the end religion also brings a social order, something human have needed since the dawn of their existence.

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

Personally I believe Pakistan should be an Islamic country, otherwise what was the point of partition?
If you want to live in a "secular" country you can go right to India then.

 

[ThunderCat]

That was true hundreds of years ago, and there are better alternatives to religions now. Religions caused the massacre of millions all over the sub-continent on the eve of the partition in 1947. These days, religions bring more chaos, as we have seen on our western border. Jinnah was lucky that he died before his Dominion of Pakistan became an Islamic Republic run by fanatics and generals.

There was no partition since the British Raj was not a country, just a mere colony. Nobody calls the desolation of British North America, which included Canada & America as "partition."

The other thing is religion is a part of human psyche. People tend to confuse it with theism, not realizing it is just a mere example of religion.

For example Marxism is also a religion, just not theistic. Many communist countries persecuted and killed people suspected of being affiliated with theism or simply being opposed to Marxist ideology.

Now in Western countries we can see with the decline of Christianity, new religions such as environmentalism, veganism and holocaust worship are taking it's place.

None of them seem to be progressive and even counter beneficial. So religion is here to stay.

To understand the effects of religion, we have to study human psychology, sociology and related topics. Theology does not help in this regard.

It's a common belief system shared amongst humans. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong or particularly right or wrong does not matter.

Humans as a social species are driven by a common set of values and habits and held together on these basis, wheather right or wrong.

That has defined our social/psychological characteristics as a species since probably the dawn of our existence.

 

[Old School]

There was no partition since the British Raj was not a country, just a mere colony. Nobody calls the desolation of British North America, which included Canada & America as "partition."

The other thing is religion is a part of human psyche. People tend to confuse it with theism, not realizing it is just a mere example of religion.

For example Marxism is also a religion, just not theistic. Many communist countries persecuted and killed people suspected of being affiliated with theism or simply being opposed to Marxist ideology.

Now in Western countries we can see with the decline of Christianity, new religions such as environmentalism, veganism and holocaust worship are taking it's place.

None of them seem to be progressive and even counter beneficial. So religion is here to stay.

To understand the effects of religion, we have to study human psychology, sociology and related topics. Theology does not help in this regard.

It's a common belief system shared amongst humans. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong or particularly right or wrong does not matter.

Humans as a social species are driven by a common set of values and habits and held together on these basis, weather right or wrong.

That has defined our social/psychological characteristics as a species since probably the dawn of our existence.

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

It should be practiced in balance, including minimizing or even eliminating it's role in politics.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

 

[Old School]

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

Those non- deity religions like woke cultures do not subjugate societies like ours. There are strong oppositions in the western societies to keep them at bay. We don't have any critical opposition in Pakistan against religious extremism. People will simply die if they do it. Even Imran Khan made alliances with extreme religious elements. Religion is a business and power tool in our country.