[🇮🇷] Iranian Chill Corner

[Old School]

There was no partition since the British Raj was not a country, just a mere colony. Nobody calls the desolation of British North America, which included Canada & America as "partition."

The other thing is religion is a part of human psyche. People tend to confuse it with theism, not realizing it is just a mere example of religion.

For example Marxism is also a religion, just not theistic. Many communist countries persecuted and killed people suspected of being affiliated with theism or simply being opposed to Marxist ideology.

Now in Western countries we can see with the decline of Christianity, new religions such as environmentalism, veganism and holocaust worship are taking it's place.

None of them seem to be progressive and even counter beneficial. So religion is here to stay.

To understand the effects of religion, we have to study human psychology, sociology and related topics. Theology does not help in this regard.

It's a common belief system shared amongst humans. Whether those beliefs are right or wrong or particularly right or wrong does not matter.

Humans as a social species are driven by a common set of values and habits and held together on these basis, weather right or wrong.

That has defined our social/psychological characteristics as a species since probably the dawn of our existence.

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

It should be practiced in balance, including minimizing or even eliminating it's role in politics.

 

[ThunderCat]

The present form of some religions are simply too extreme and not acceptable. Religion should be a matter of private life without a state enforcing it like in some countries. Religion has caused a lot of problems in Pakistan and created millions of zombies and illiterates who will never understand your scientific explanation of religion.

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

 

[Old School]

Even vegans, environmentalists and holocaust worshipers do not accept my scientific analysis. This was even before I discovered Micheal Crichton's article "Environmentalism is a Religion."

You should read it sometime.

Those non- deity religions like woke cultures do not subjugate societies like ours. There are strong oppositions in the western societies to keep them at bay. We don't have any critical opposition in Pakistan against religious extremism. People will simply die if they do it. Even Imran Khan made alliances with extreme religious elements. Religion is a business and power tool in our country.

 

[ThunderCat]

Those non- deity religions like woke cultures do not subjugate societies like ours. There are strong oppositions in the western societies to keep them at bay. We don't have any critical opposition in Pakistan against religious extremism. People will simply die if they do it. Even Imran Khan made alliances with extreme religious elements. Religion is a business and power tool in our country.

Denying the Holocaust is a crime in many Western countries. Denying the Holocaust in front of many Westerners sets them off easily. There clearly is dictatorship. They also visit Holocaust museums like religious pilgrims.

In Marxist countries people were imprisoned and killed for opposing the state and/or Marxist ideology. Not that I am excusing the religious extremism in our country.

 

[Old School]

Denying the Holocaust is a crime in many Western countries. Denying the Holocaust in front of many Westerners sets them off easily. There clearly is dictatorship. They also visit Holocaust museums like religious pilgrims.

In Marxist countries people were imprisoned and killed for opposing the state and/or Marxist ideology. Not that I am excusing the religious extremism in our country.

The people also overthrew and hanged Communist leaders like Chausescu. Those countries have a strong criticism of their own. Holocaust supporters are many in some society and it is not a crime to support the holocaust either. We do not have opposition in our country or any other religious countries. Nothing can be compared with our dysfunctional society, as any opposition to religious authority is brutally crushed, or public lynching takes place in front of inactive police. We should not use whataboutism to say what about that country. I am shocked to see, especially, our UK community, which is also now full of zombies in constant denial. Then, we wonder why there is a phobia.

 

[ThunderCat]

The people also overthrew and hanged Communist leaders like Chausescu. Those countries have a strong criticism of their own. Holocaust supporters are many in some society and it is not a crime to support the holocaust either. We do not have opposition in our country or any other religious countries. Nothing can be compared with our dysfunctional society, as any opposition to religious authority is brutally crushed, or public lynching takes place in front of inactive police. We should not use whataboutism to say what about that country. I am shocked to see, especially, our UK community, which is also now full of zombies in constant denial. Then, we wonder why there is a phobia.

There has been, but it hasn't been strong enough. Remember our people never elected a religious administration. But General Zia infected our country with an extreme Wahabbi ideology.

I am not defending it. But this has to be understood while taking into account human social and psychological history. Human belief systems are commonly dogmatic.

Denying the Holocaust is still taboo in most Western countries and even illegal in others. I can even provide a quote on how the Holocaust has taken a position as a religion.

The West is degrading because of political correctness and new religious dogma. People don't criticize dogmas in the West because of political correctness and that's what the problem is with us.

Many non-European migrants including Muslim extremists exploit this political correctness.

We fear our religious mobs and their massive numbers and total disregard for the law.

 

[Aryobarzan]

The sooner Pakistan becomes a "Secular" nation the faster she will walk in the path of progress. Islamic Republic as a governing idea has failed miserably both in Pakistan and Iran. There is no reason why Pakistan can not do what already has started by India. You got the brains (West Asia first nuclear power and first to start space activity when everyone else was sleep in this area).
As for Iran my prediction is that within the next decade Iran will again be a "secular " nation but more important this time around Iran will also be a non- muslim nation with a small muslim minority population.
Hopefully the mullah crowd in Iran would also disappear from Iranian landscape after them appearing in the Iranian history only 500 years ago . Mullahs have always played a negative and destructive role in Iranian history. They were always considered "parasitic" entity and tools of foreign nations to impose their will on Iran. Invented 500 years ago by the Safavid shahs to control the population and later used by British to keep Iranian population from Progress..