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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India
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Short Summary: The remarks come two days after India and Pakistan announced halting of military action from both sides, following the Indian DGMO being approached his Pakistani counterpart amid the intensifying conflict between the two nuclear-powered countries.
Oh sure, we did a full presser here with BDA sat pics clearly showing collapsed hangar domes and radar sites hit, uska no doubt.

but ye, itne saare f16s + mirages + tanker + awacs <- inka saboot wala hisab baaki hai.

like I said, I'd really really love to believe but am choosing to err on the side of caution and not celebrate those, not just yet anyway.

baaki you're right, navy no action, army also limited arty exchange.

All of that are movable assets. Consumable. Replenishable.

This is war. Industry needs to be in top gear to fight it. Look at Russia and Ukraine. At the volume and scale of damage

Our India Pak is like kiddies in a sand pit in comparison.

India Pakistan wars have rarely if ever been felt in the cities. Where people actually live.

In that sense, 2025 was many scales more demoralising for Pakistan than 1971. Which was fought largely a continent away.
 
I can tell you what my parents told me of 1971. The fear was palpable. I was a few months old. My dad was at work. Mum was at home alone with me. Complete blackout. Windowpanes with paper/cardboard stuck on them. Air raid sirens.

Now imagine what goes theough the mind of Pakistanis when they see fire from the sky, and the final terminal scream of a missile, and then the spectacular detonation on their most guarded high value sites.

Sites which 99% of them must never have been allowed into.

And here the enemy is reaching out and touching you.

Again and again. Loud. Bright. At night.

No amount of propaganda is going to defeat the viral fear on the ground. Fear helplessness.

A d soon anger and resentment.

When their internal enemies keep hitting them.

And failed generals become Field Marshals .
I've also heard from my mum and masi, those stories of blackouts and sirens. 65 too, I think. Dilli.
 
I can tell you what my parents told me of 1971. The fear was palpable. I was a few months old. My dad was at work. Mum was at home alone with me. Complete blackout. Windowpanes with paper/cardboard stuck on them. Air raid sirens.

Now imagine what goes theough the mind of Pakistanis when they see fire from the sky, and the final terminal scream of a missile, and then the spectacular detonation on their most guarded high value sites.

Sites which 99% of them must never have been allowed into.

And here the enemy is reaching out and touching you.

Again and again. Loud. Bright. At night.

No amount of propaganda is going to defeat the viral fear on the ground. Fear helplessness.

A d soon anger and resentment.

When their internal enemies keep hitting them.

And failed generals become Field Marshals .
I've also heard from my mum and masi, those stories of blackouts and sirens. 65 too, I think. Dilli.
WOW!!!!! This story rings a faint bell!! I too have heard this story at home but very few times - probably only once or twice.
 

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