[🇵🇰-✈JF-17] Azerbaijan Air Force Becomes Fourth Operator of JF-17 Fighter Aircraft

[C4llM3Pi]

Source : https://www.PKDefense.com

 

[Lulldapull]

I just hope this is true. We need da money so bad! I hope we export our shaheen missiles to Armenia next and thwart the whole Indian game at its root!

 

[C4llM3Pi]

I think the news might be true with the way the channel is advertising it

 

[C4llM3Pi]

More information from BOL News

 

[TheNewb77]

Maybe @LegionnairE may have some more info.

 

[LegionnairE]

Maybe @LegionnairE may have some more info.

This has been going on for years. Here's an article from 2018:

Azerbaycan ve Pakistan'ın JF-17 görüşmeleri son aşamada

Azerbaycan'ın bir süredir ilgilendiği Pakistan ve Çin tarafından ortaklaşa geliştirilen JF-17 Thunder savaş uçağı ile ilgili müzakerlerde sona gelindi.

www.defenceturk.net

Here it says Pakistan already bought ASELPOD for their own JF-17s, many other Turkish avionics and weapons could be integrated into Azerbaijani planes.

 

[LegionnairE]

I just hope this is true. We need da money so bad! I hope we export our shaheen missiles to Armenia next and thwart the whole Indian game at its root!

That's not going to happen due to Pakistan's close relations with Turkey. Armenia will not buy anything from Pakistan.

 

[Old School]

This news was originally published by UK-based "Air Operations Syndicate". There is no confirmation from the Pakistani official sources.

 

[LegionnairE]

This news was originally published by UK-based "Air Operations Syndicate". There is no confirmation from the Pakistani official sources.

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I have no confirmation from any Turkish source either.

 

[Old School]

I have no confirmation from any Turkish source either.

Bear in mind that this "Air Operations Syndicate" is run by Indians in the UK. As you know, Indians are pushing their Akash Air defense system to Armenia. Therefore, the ultimate target buyers of this news seem to be the Armenians !!

 

[Old School]

Given the deteriorating relationship between Russia and Armenia and Armenia's increasing closeness to NATO, China is unlikely to approve this JF-17C Block-III export to Azerbaijan. So do the Western backers of the upcoming Pakistani government, as the Western backers are also supportive of the Armenians.

 

[LegionnairE]

Given the deteriorating relationship between Russia and Armenia and Armenia's increasing closeness to NATO, China is unlikely to approve this JF-17C Block-III export to Azerbaijan. So do the Western backers of the upcoming Pakistani government, as the Western backers are also supportive of the Armenians.

Interesting. Doesn't make much difference. It seems Hürjet is just around the corner and it's not that far off from JF-17. We could give Azerbaijan that. But I'll wait and see if Pakistan confirms or denies the sale anyway.

1.6 Billion $ is a good amount of money for Pakistan and should amount to a nice number of planes for Azerbaijan.

 

[C4llM3Pi]

Last time I checked the price of a JF-17 was around 30~40 million per unit , Block III would be ~50~60 million so , if the deal is true 1 squadron plus weaponry and training would be good for the amount .
But still let's wait for official confirmation from either party

 

[Lulldapull]

A JF-17 or an F-16 life expectancy over let’s say the Donbas or Lughansk or Donets can be counted in minutes or maybe hours at best. Same same for Su-35 or F-35. I don’t see neither the western NATO nor the Russians using any military aircraft at all since the last year straight. All warplanes are grounded because it’s pretty clearly understood what happens if they fly……..I believe that warfare has radically changed over the last few years and almost all legacy weaponry is on serious borrowed time.

 

[LegionnairE]

A JF-17 or an F-16 life expectancy over let’s say the Donbas or Lughansk or Donets can be counted in minutes or maybe hours at best. Same same for Su-35 or F-35. I don’t see neither the western NATO nor the Russians using any military aircraft at all since the last year straight. All warplanes are grounded because it’s pretty clearly understood what happens if they fly……..I believe that warfare has radically changed over the last few years and almost all legacy weaponry is on serious borrowed time.

failure of the Russian Air Force really warped your minds

 

[Lulldapull]

failure of the Russian Air Force really warped your minds

I don't see western planes in the air either. They'd be shot down in minutes. That's why we don't see them in Ukraine at all.

 

[LegionnairE]

Last time I checked the price of a JF-17 was around 30~40 million per unit , Block III would be ~50~60 million so , if the deal is true 1 squadron plus weaponry and training would be good for the amount .
But still let's wait for official confirmation from either party

I would expect 24-30 planes along with some spare parts to be procured

I don't see western planes in the air either. They'd be shot down in minutes. That's why we don't see them in Ukraine at all.

Because they haven't been delivered and Ukrainian pilots haven't been trained to a sufficient point?

 

[Lulldapull]

I would expect 24-30 planes along with some spare parts to be procured


Because they haven't been delivered and Ukrainian pilots haven't been trained to a sufficient point?

Ukraine's entire AF was destroyed early in the war within weeks of it starting. RuAF lost about 50 'advanced' jets also withing the first few months. After that almost no AF activity on either side. Attack helo's did even worse and basically withdrawn from front line duties. We see the same for naval warships and much much worse for armor/ APC's. I honestly believe that looking at this Ukraine war, most countries must be thinking that all they got is cannon fodder in equipment. Only think that works today are ATGM's, drones and laser guided artillery. Almost everything else (legacy weapons) have largely been rendered obsolete. If you paid me a million bucks right now and ask me to fly an F-16 over Donbas, or go sit in a Leopard tank, I would refuse to do it. There's almost a 100% chance of me not coming back alive.

 

[ghazi]

Not confirm from any Quarter. So at this point only a feeler.

 

[Old School]

There is no official word yet from the Azeri/Pakistani responsible people. This news is still spreading like an inferno in social media, and online portals are picking it up. We only know that UK-based 'Desi' people run X channel "Air Operations Syndicate" first reported this news two days ago.