World Breaking news: Iran will buy J-10C fighter jets to enhance military power | Khamenei (Indian News)

[Vsdoc]

And neither would China......

Because of Pakistan?

 

[Vsdoc]

Even if the news of J10CE induction in IRIAF is true, it still would take them years to effects utilise them effectively.

Iranian military woud have to first integration itself with the Beidou SatNav system.

Their pilots have no experience with modern planes and modern aerial warfare.

They will have to induct a whole gamut of Chinese weaponry ecosystem to fully realise the J10CEs potential. Induction of AWACS, data transfer TDLs, integration of entire warmachine into a net centric web.

In short, it would take them years before they alter the aerial mismatch, even a few degrees in their favor.

But still many degrees better off than where they are now.

Naked and defenceless under their own skies.

For a country that is so good in drones and decoys and rockets and missiles, they should at the very least have a good multi layered air defence.

Turkey and Pakistan are the Muslim countries that have the manufacturing knowhow and could help.

But will not.

Western countries (Germany, Sweden, France, Poland) will not.

India will not.

Russia has not. Can. But has not.

That only leaves China.

And Iran holds China's balls in its hands ....

 

[steppeWolff]

But still many degrees better off than where they are now.

Naked and defenceless under their own skies.

Considering the deep infestation of western intelligence apparatus in Iran and Iranian military apparatus, I dont think Chinese would be willing to sell Iranians anything apart from watered down J10s. And without AWACS to vector to J10s, it would be a turkey shoot.

I think its time for Iran to pick a side. They are not Russia, US or China that they can play this game alone.

 

[Lulldapull]

Because of Pakistan?

No, because China is a US toady.......whatever the US says, China listens. US china trade $600 billion.......

 

[Vsdoc]

Considering the deep infestation of western intelligence apparatus in Iran and Iranian military apparatus, I dont think Chinese would be willing to sell Iranians anything apart from watered down J10s. And without AWACS to vector to J10s, it would be a turkey shoot.

I think its time for Iran to pick a side. They are not Russia, US or China that they can play this game alone.

But western intelligence infestation and control holds even more true for Pakistan.

You are literally a US base man.

Come on!

 

[steppeWolff]

For a country that is so good in drones and decoys and rockets and missiles, they should at the very least have a good multi layered air defence.

Doc, from my limited reads into the Iranian MIC, they are way ahead of both Pakistan and Turkiye in Air Defence and Missiles. Their IADS failure is attributed to subversion and sabotage. Their own people have been more than willing to hurt Iran.

Turkey and Pakistan are the Muslim countries that have the manufacturing knowhow and could help.

But will not.

Pakistan and Turkiye can help Iran in aerial warfare, EW, joint ops etc but tell me this, since decades Iran has been a hostile force against them both, why would they help Iran substantially? The limited help would come just so Tehran doesn't fall and we dont get a Zionist stooge on our borders. Pure strategic necessity. Nothing more.

 

[Vsdoc]

No, because China is a US toady.......whatever the US says, China listens. US china trade $600 billion.......

Steppewolff ko reply kiya.

Dekho ...

 

[steppeWolff]

But western intelligence infestation and control holds even more true for Pakistan.

You are literally a US base man.

Come on!

Yes but its a Chinese base too. Pakistan is a conduit for both sides to learn about each other. And both doesn't want that to change.

 

[Lulldapull]

I personally believe looking at china weaponry performance over the years that Iran is better off not getting anything from China at all.

Bilkul fuzool hathyaar.......They just don't work at all.

This is also why Russian gaanddu don't buy anything from China. They'd rather buy irani weapons no?

 

[steppeWolff]

I personally believe looking at china weaponry performance over the years that Iran is better off not getting anything from China at all.

Bilkul fuzool hathyaar.......They just don't work at all.

Chinese would surely take into account your feedback. Dont you worry.

 

[Lulldapull]

Chinese would surely take into account your feedback. Dont you worry.

Bhai other than us ghareeb, who is their customer?........bolo na?

 

[Vsdoc]

Yes but its a Chinese base too. Pakistan is a conduit for both sides to learn about each other. And both doesn't want that to change.

Interesting.

So then why not Iran?

Because nothing is coming from the opposite side (American)?

 

[Lulldapull]

Russian gaanddu didn't buy anything from China......3 saal honay ko aaey hain ukraine war ko?

Only thing Russia buying from China is printed circuit boards and chips for its FPV's......

buss......

 

[Vsdoc]

Russian gaanddu didn't buy anything from China......3 saal honay aaey hain.

Only thing Russia buying from China is printed circuit boards and chips for its FPV's......

buss......

Loads and mega loads of artillery shells bro.

 

[Lulldapull]

Few years ago the Sawdis, AL-Jordanians and AL-Iraqis bought a whole bunch of CH-4/5 UCAVs from China......they have performed so poorly that they have been put up for sale long ago and nobody wants to buy them as used (failed) equipment.

Iraq bought Chinese long track radars (SW) for tracking Daesh drones in AL-Anbar province and ground tracking radars for detecting infiltration.......vo bhee failure!

In k hathyaar no good bhai......I can provide sources and no bullshit.