[🇨🇳] China vs USA

[Sharma Ji]

No they are not. The US allows China to purchase Iranian oil at a discount and that’s about it. He claims Iran relies on Chinese GPS for its drones, which is not true. He claims robotic dogs are weaponized, ok great. Never seen em on the front lines of any conflict yet. He claims that the C-802 missile was sold to Iran 25 years ago, and we know it was an incomplete/partial TOT with Iran having to do majority of the development itself. So long ago. Then he claims some drone dazzler vehicle was sold to Iran…..oh bhai there is no evidence of that either.

The only thing really Chinese in Iran besides the Walmart trinkets are 25 or so 40 year old F-7 aircraft which are not even operational now I believe because they’re so old.

The US pressure on China is such that almost anything of value is under the US microscope before it gets cleared for export.

Online Chinese, at least the ones on defence forums have a habit of being that way.

Rest of us have no shortage of yahoos indulging in our respective nationalist rhetoric blah either, but with these ching chongs, its a one way street. Kabhi khud ki galtian nahi accept karte saaley, unki training hai.. else they get thrown in gulags to be re-educated.

As for Iran's military, dunno man, not my area of expertise.. im not an out an out mil-tech guy. Geopolitics and culture is more my space.

 

[Lulldapull]

China sold its CH-4 drones to Iraq Sawdi Judea and Jordan and their performance was such that Jordan has quit using them years ago along with Iraq and put em up for sale. Sawdi Judea used CH-4’s in Yemen and set up an assy. line for them and the Wing Loongs drones and they got shot down in droves by the Houthis.

I mean it’s been pretty bad publicity for China due to the heavy losses in the ME theater for their drone industry.

Iraqi CH-4’s are derelict now due to high operating/ maintenance costs and the Jordanians have put up theirs for sale with deep discounts and still no buyers.

Happy to post links, but why rub it in……

 

[Mainerik]

That's why Israel can bomb Iran without restraint. When a backward agricultural country starts to numb itself with lies and bragging. Proof: It has lost the ability to launch large-scale wars...

of course. I don't expect a backward agricultural country to defend its airspace.

What do you mean by agricultural? Only 13% of Iranian economy is agricultural, it is more of a oil economy. In that sense China is agricultural too.

I think you mean to say that China is ions above Iran, Pakistan, etc. in tech.

 

[Lulldapull]

That's why Israel can bomb Iran without restraint. When a backward agricultural country starts to numb itself with lies and bragging. Proof: It has lost the ability to launch large-scale wars...

of course. I don't expect a backward agricultural country to defend its airspace.

And Iran doesn’t bomb Israel? FYI, Iran bombs Israel daily!

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran bombs Israel daily!

link ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Watch: Israel deploys US THAAD system for first time - what is it - Times of India

The United States' THAAD missile defense system was used in Israel for the first time to intercept a Houthi ballistic missile from Yemen. The intercep

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[Lulldapull]

link ?

Every few hours an Iranian missile lands in Tel-Aviv no?

 

[Lulldapull]

Watch: Israel deploys US THAAD system for first time - what is it - Times of India

The United States' THAAD missile defense system was used in Israel for the first time to intercept a Houthi ballistic missile from Yemen. The intercep

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

It failed, like it always does…..

 

[Sharma Ji]

Every few hours an Iranian missile lands in Tel-Aviv no?

nice !

but are they doing any damaze ?

no injuries, one person got "shock"

dum nahi hai in attackon me, building boolding girao, kill at least 20 odd al yayuddas with a single istrike.

this is fuss, only victory they can claim is they getting Ijrael to spend millions of $$s on this defence

but that's also not a problem coz note printing of federal reserve is also done by the Jew lol

 

[Jiangnan]

And Iran doesn’t bomb Israel? FYI, Iran bombs Israel daily!

Ah, yeah. You bombed Israel with love bombs. Not hitting any valuable targets. No Israeli soldiers were harmed. But Israel kills your military officials at will!

Why is Iran a backward agricultural country? No air supremacy! No electromagnetic supremacy! Hit the Israeli mound with a love bullet. Avoid greater retaliation from Israel.

 

[Jiangnan]

What do you mean by agricultural? Only 13% of Iranian economy is agricultural, it is more of a oil economy. In that sense China is agricultural too.

I think you mean to say that China is ions above Iran, Pakistan, etc. in tech.

Top Manufacturing Countries
China – 31.6% Global Manufacturing Output
United States – 15.9% Global Manufacturing Output
Japan – 6.5% Global Manufacturing Output
Germany – 4.8% Global Manufacturing Output
India – 2.9% Global Manufacturing Output
South Korea – 2.7% Global Manufacturing Output
Russia – 1.8% Global Manufacturing Output
Italy – 1.8% Global Manufacturing Output
Mexico – 1.7% Global Manufacturing Output
France – 1.6% Global Manufacturing Output

What is an industrialized country? For example, drones. It may be a very advanced weapon in your country. But it is in China. Perhaps it's just agricultural products.



In an agricultural country. It could be a goddess. But in industrialized countries. i 'm sorry. It's just a toy.

 

[Jiangnan]

China sold its CH-4 drones to Iraq Sawdi Judea and Jordan and their performance was such that Jordan has quit using them years ago along with Iraq and put em up for sale. Sawdi Judea used CH-4’s in Yemen and set up an assy. line for them and the Wing Loongs drones and they got shot down in droves by the Houthis.

I mean it’s been pretty bad publicity for China due to the heavy losses in the ME theater for their drone industry.

Iraqi CH-4’s are derelict now due to high operating/ maintenance costs and the Jordanians have put up theirs for sale with deep discounts and still no buyers.

Happy to post links, but why rub it in……

So great. That's why Iran must buy Chinese laser weapons to defend its airspace. Avoid being heavily bombed by Israel.

Hi. Khamenei, let Chinese weapons protect you!

Chinese laser weapon deployed for Khamenei’s protection? Israel intensifies ops against Hezbollah

The situation in West Asia remains tense after the killing of Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah by Israeli forces. Iran took revenge and fired a barrage of nearly 200 ballistic missiles at Israel, but Israel intercepted the majority of them. Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei on Oct 04 made 1st public...

m.economictimes.com

A backward agricultural country. He can only boast about its poor drone. isn't it?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Chaindeje vs Pakstaandi

ondly ond this forurdm

 

[Sharma Ji]

There is also the little matter of ancient contiguous (dunno if that's the right word) civilizations, non stop, but, 1000s of years..

Persia, Bharat/Hind, and China.

iss morchay ko aagey discuss kara jaye !

L @Lulldapull (your Japand too, but they not really part of here, maybe relevant to China, but we leave them out for now)

4 and biggest most great success one is the gora civilization, and can be broadly divided into Slavs and Westies for starters, but again, irrelevant to the discussion here, for now)

 

[Lulldapull]

So great. That's why Iran must buy Chinese laser weapons to defend its airspace. Avoid being heavily bombed by Israel.

Hi. Khamenei, let Chinese weapons protect you!

Chinese laser weapon deployed for Khamenei’s protection? Israel intensifies ops against Hezbollah

The situation in West Asia remains tense after the killing of Hezbollah Chief Nasrallah by Israeli forces. Iran took revenge and fired a barrage of nearly 200 ballistic missiles at Israel, but Israel intercepted the majority of them. Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei on Oct 04 made 1st public...

m.economictimes.com

A backward agricultural country. He can only boast about its poor drone. isn't it?

Irans had its own laser cannons slaved to E/O targeting systems for a decade now:

Mass Production of Laser Cannons Starts in Iran

Iran’s Defense Ministry has begun manufacturing air defense laser cannons, a deputy minister said. ...

english.almanar.com.lb

Iran Claims Deploying 'Laser Cannon' Against Aerial Targets

Iran claims it has produced a laser weapon, saying the Islamic Republic is now among the few countries in the world that can build such weapons.

www.iranintl.com