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China’s DeepSeek AI a ‘wakeup call’ for US tech firms
Warns Trump, takes aim at DEI, Covid expulsions, transgender troops

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  • Trump orders planning for 'Iron Dome' missile shield for US​
  • His admin fires justice dept lawyers who investigated him​
US President Donald Trump said on Monday that Chinese start-up DeepSeek's technology should act as spur for American companies and said it was good that companies in China have come up with a cheaper, faster method of artificial intelligence.

"The release of DeepSeek, AI from a Chinese company should be a wakeup call for our industries that we need to be laser-focused on competing to win," Trump said in Florida.

"I've been reading about China and some of the companies in China, one in particular coming up with a faster method of AI and much less expensive method, and that's good because you don't have to spend as much money. I view that as a positive, as an asset," Trump said.

"I view that as a positive because you'll be doing that too, so you won't be spending as much, and you'll get the same result, hopefully," he said.

Trump also signed a series of executive orders on Monday to remove diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) from the military, reinstate thousands of troops who were kicked out for refusing Covid-19 vaccines during the pandemic, and take aim at transgender troops.

Earlier on Monday, Pete Hegseth, who narrowly secured enough votes to become defence secretary, referred to the names of Confederate generals that were once used for two key bases during his remarks to reporters as he entered the Pentagon on his first full day on the job.

Trump signed the executive orders while flying back from Miami to Washington DC.

One of the executive orders signed by Trump said that expressing a "gender identity" different from an individual's sex at birth did not meet military standards.

While the order banned the use of "invented" pronouns in the military, it did not answer basic questions including whether transgender soldiers currently serving in the military would be allowed to stay and, if not, how they would be removed.

Trump's plans have been heavily criticised by advocacy groups, which say his actions would be illegal.

"President Trump has made clear that a key priority for his administration is driving transgender people back into the closet and out of public life altogether," Joshua Block, with the ACLU, said earlier on Monday.

Trump also signed an executive order that "mandated a process to develop an 'American Iron Dome'."

The short-range Iron Dome air defense system was built by Israel's Rafael Advanced Defense Systems with US backing, and was built to intercept rockets fired by the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas in Gaza towards Israel.

Trump's administration on Monday fired more than a dozen Justice Department lawyers who brought two criminal cases against him, an official said.

The officials were fired after Acting Attorney General James McHenry, a Trump appointee, concluded they "could not be trusted to faithfully implement the President's agenda because of their significant role in prosecuting the President," a Justice Department official said.​
Evidently the Chinese are graduating three times as many people in STEM than the US annually for the last generation now. You can see its results today.

The entire tech sector in the US too is full of colored peepal bhai, mostly Chinese and Indians.

There is not much else left to say on this.

The US has to get along with China and eventually admit and accept that China's ascendancy in tech/ innovation is a reality.
 
Evidently the Chinese are graduating three times as many people in STEM than the US annually for the last generation now. You can see its results today.

The entire tech sector in the US too is full of colored peepal bhai, mostly Chinese and Indians.

There is not much else left to say on this.

The US has to get along with China and eventually admit and accept that China's ascendancy in tech/ innovation is a reality.
I concur with you.:)
 

China 'firmly opposes' new US tariffs, vows 'countermeasures'
AFP
Beijing
Published: 02 Feb 2025, 10: 18

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In this file China`s president Xi Jinping (R) shakes hands with US president Donald Trump before a bilateral meeting on the sidelines of the G20 Summit in Osaka on 29 June. Asian investors await for a US-China trade deal details.AFP

China said Sunday it "firmly opposes" new tariffs imposed on Beijing by US President Donald Trump, vowing to take "corresponding countermeasures to resolutely safeguard our own rights and interests".

Unveiling sweeping measures against major trade partners on Saturday, Trump announced an additional 10 per cent tariff on Chinese imports on top of existing duties.

In a statement on Sunday, China's commerce ministry slammed Washington's "erroneous practices", saying Beijing was "strongly dissatisfied with this and firmly opposes it".

The ministry said Beijing would file a lawsuit at the World Trade Organization, arguing that "the unilateral imposition of tariffs by the United States seriously violates WTO rules".

It added that the duties were "not only unhelpful in solving the US's own problems, but also undermine normal economic and trade cooperation".

"China hopes that the United States will objectively and rationally view and deal with its own issues like fentanyl, rather than threatening other countries with tariffs at every turn," the ministry said.

It said Beijing "urges the US to correct its erroneous practices, meet China halfway, face up to its problems, have frank dialogues, strengthen cooperation and manage differences on the basis of equality, mutual benefit and mutual respect".

In a separate statement, China's foreign ministry said "there are no winners in a trade war or tariff war".

"The practice of imposing additional tariffs is not constructive and will inevitably affect and damage future bilateral cooperation on drug control," a ministry spokesperson said.​
 

China holds out hope last-minute deal can avert US trade war

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The aerial photo shows cars for export parked at a port in Lianyungang, in eastern China’s Jiangsu province. Photo: AFP
1China's new tariffs on US imports like oil, coal and cars are relatively modest in scale, suggesting that Beijing is hoping for a last-minute deal but also giving them the option to inflict more pain if needed, analysts say.

China on Tuesday fired a return salvo in its escalating trade war with the United States, slapping fresh tariffs on everything from American crude oil to agricultural machinery.

The moves hit roughly $20 billion worth of US goods per year -- roughly 12 percent of total American imports into China, according to calculations by Capital Economics.

Over a third of that is energy: according to Beijing customs data, imports of oil, coal and LNG totalled more than $7 billion last year.

Beijing has also slapped fresh export controls on rare metals and chemicals including tungsten, tellurium, bismuth, indium and molybdenum, used in everything from mining to phone screens.

China dominates global supply chains for rare metals.

The countermeasures came as a surprise to some -- analysts at UBS this week told AFP they had expected Beijing to keep its powder dry.

But they are a far cry from the 10 percent tariffs slapped on all Chinese imports by US President Donald Trump this week that will affect some $450 billion worth of goods.

"The measures are fairly modest, at least relative to US moves," Capital Economics's Julian Evans-Pritchard said.

They "have clearly been calibrated to try to send a message to the US (and domestic audiences) without inflicting too much damage," he added.

That restraint can in part be explained by China's reliance on many US imports for its industries and its longstanding economic woes at home, Agatha Kratz at the Rhodium Group told AFP.

"Given the current economic downturn, China cannot afford -- and does not want -- to impose excessive trade barriers," she said.

"China's economy is in a fragile state, and this limits its ability to act freely," she explained.

"Beijing cannot afford to take reckless actions, and I don't think it wants to."

Far from inflicting deep pain, analysts say Beijing's goal is to send a message to Washington: that China can and will retaliate to swingeing tariffs.

"These tariffs are structured to signal China's capacity to endure prolonged economic confrontation while forcing the US to deal with internal economic pressures," Mingzhi Jimmy Xu, an assistant professor at Peking University, to AFP.

And Beijing can do "serious damage" to the United States should it decide to, Shehzad Qazi from China Beige Book told AFP.

The US remains heavily reliant on China for critical minerals needed to produce electric vehicles, their batteries and other key industrial applications.

Washington has had a flavour of this. In December, Beijing banned exports of metals gallium, antimony and germanium, key components in semiconductors.

That it had chosen not to, analysts say, suggests Beijing is keen to leave the door open to negotiations with Washington that could see the tariffs reversed.

Trump on Monday indicated a call with Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping could be imminent, hinting that a similar volte-face could be in the works.

But he later rolled back that claim, saying he was in "no rush" to speak with the Chinese leader.

Both Mexico and Canada -- hit with 25 percent tariffs over the weekend -- succeeded in securing a 30-day stay in last-minute deals with the US.

Beijing may be hoping for the same kind of agreement -- likely tied to a further commitment to crack down on the trafficking of fentanyl and the ownership of social media app TikTok.

"The Chinese tariffs do not go into effect until five days from now, a long time in Trump world," Wendy Cutler, a former US trade official, said in a note.

But "the question is whether Trump will react in the same way to such threats" from China, Alicia Garcia Herrero at Natixis told AFP.

"If he doubles down, China will have a problem."​
 
How can there be a trade war without over turning the whole apple cart?

Everything is made in China bhai! Who will fill up millions of those Walmarts and Targets and TJ Max's and Dollar Stores? How will 250 million Americans survive without cheap trinkets and gadgets and consumer goods?
 

Renewed US-China trade war is about tech supremacy too

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FILE VISUAL: REUTERS

The year was 1993. Chinese cargo ship Yinhe, sailing across the Indian Ocean, found its GPS equipment jammed, which depended on the US global satellite navigation system. Soon enough, US Navy ships appeared and wanted to search the vessel. Why? Because Washington suspected it was carrying chemical weapon materials for Iran. After a humiliating three-week standoff with food and water running out, the ship was searched, but no such cargo was found. Deeply humiliated, Beijing resolved that it must have its homegrown technology so such an incident would never be repeated. The outcome is BeiDou—better, bigger, and more advanced than any other satellite navigation system available today.

A similar spirit drives China's ambitions in the satellite broadband race, as ventures like Qianfan (also known as Thousand Sails or G60 Starlink), Guowang, and Geespace (developed by the automotive giant Geely) challenge the dominance of SpaceX's Starlink.

Launched in 2019, Starlink began with the ambitious goal of providing high-speed, low-latency internet coverage to even the most remote corners of the globe. It has steadily grown into a formidable network, with nearly 7,000 satellites already in orbit, and plans to deploy thousands more. It has proven to be of strategic value by providing crucial internet services in the Ukraine war. When terrestrial internet infrastructure was disrupted, Starlink terminals enabled Ukrainian forces to maintain communication, coordinate operations, and gather intelligence. This has highlighted the potential of satellite broadband networks to provide resilient communication channels in conflict zones, a capability that China undoubtedly recognises and seeks to achieve.

China's determination to become a major player in this field is evident. Qianfan, for instance, aims to create a constellation of 13,000 satellites, while Guowang has similar aspirations with its "national-level satellite internet constellation" plan. Geespace focuses on providing services to both the Chinese domestic market and international clients, with a constellation designed to support autonomous driving and other data-intensive applications. These ventures could provide high-speed internet access to underserved and remote areas of China and the world, bridging the digital divide and fostering economic growth. They could also be crucial to China's military and strategic ambitions, providing secure and reliable communications for its armed forces and intelligence agencies. This competition also encompasses the development of satellite jamming technology. Both players are investing in capabilities to disrupt each other's satellite networks while protecting their own.

Despite their ambitions and resources, Chinese ventures face significant technological hurdles. Developing and deploying a massive satellite constellation requires advanced technology in areas like satellite manufacturing, launch capabilities, and network management. The United States Space Command (USSC) reported that Qianfan scattered hundreds of space debris while launching 18 satellites in August last year.

The escalating trade war between Washington and Beijing has made this technological competition more complex. The US's restriction on tech exports to China, specifically designed to hinder the latter's progress in the space race, has continued since Trump's first presidency, followed by Biden's and then Trump's. The crucial role of artificial intelligence adds another layer of complexity to this race, and companies like DeepSeek, at the forefront of AI innovation in China, are poised to become key players. It also raises question about the effectiveness of US's tech sanctions on China: are they spurring China's innovations? Their sophisticated AI algorithms can analyse vast amounts of satellite imagery, enabling enhanced navigation, environmental monitoring, and even national security applications.

Innovative Chinese researchers and companies possess several advantages in the satellite broadband race, including robust government support and substantial financial and policy backing for their ventures. Additionally, China benefits from lower labour and manufacturing costs than the US, providing a significant economic edge. The country also boasts the world's largest internet market, offering a vast potential customer base. Furthermore, China's satellite broadband ambitions align with its military and strategic goals, enabling secure communication for its armed forces and intelligence agencies.

However, China must also overcome several crucial technological barriers, such as designing and manufacturing fast and efficient two-nanometre semiconductors, which Taiwan's TSMC already produces with Washington's active support (in comparison, China's SMIC is making five-nanometre chips for Huawei.) Washington's export controls on sensitive technology could hinder Beijing's progress. Still, such situations often stimulate innovations, as the development of DeepSeek without NVIDIA's most advanced chips has shown (it has recently been questioned, though.)

The implications of this competition are far-reaching. It's not just a commercial contest between companies; it's a strategic rivalry between two superpowers vying for technological supremacy. The outcome will shape the future of communication, global commerce and access to information, and redefine the balance of power in the 21st century.

Dr Sayeed Ahmed is a consulting engineer and the CEO of Bayside Analytix, a technology-focused strategy and management consulting organisation.​
 

China condemns Trump's 'tariff shocks' at WTO, US hits back
REUTERS
Published :
Feb 19, 2025 21:30
Updated :
Feb 19, 2025 21:30

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A logo is seen at the World Trade Organization (WTO) headquarters before a news conference in Geneva, Switzerland, October 5, 2022. Photo : REUTERS/Denis Balibouse/Files

China condemned tariffs launched or threatened by US President Donald Trump at a World Trade Organization meeting on Tuesday, saying such "tariff shocks" could upend the global trading system in a warning dismissed as hypocritical by Washington.

Trump has announced sweeping 10 per cent tariffs on all Chinese imports, prompting Beijing to respond with retaliatory tariffs and to file a WTO dispute against Washington in what could be an early test of Trump's stance towards the institution.

"These 'Tariff Shocks' heighten economic uncertainty, disrupt global trade, and risk domestic inflation, market distortion, or even global recession," China's ambassador to the WTO Li Chenggang said at a closed-door meeting of the global trade body, according to a statement sent to Reuters.

"Worse, the US unilateralism threatens to upend the rules-based multilateral trading system."

US envoy David Bisbee took the floor in response, calling China's economy a "predatory non-market economic system".

"It is now more than two decades since China joined the WTO, and it is clear that China has not lived up to the bargain that it struck with WTO Members when it acceded," he said. "During this period, China has produced a long record of violating, disregarding, and evading WTO rules," he added.

Only a handful of other states joined the debate, according to two trade sources who attended the meeting. Some of them expressed deep concern that tariffs pose a risk to the stability of the global trading system while others criticised China for alleged market distortions, the sources said.

WTO Director-General Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala also addressed the room and reiterated a call for calm. "The WTO was created precisely to manage times like these - to provide a space for dialogue, prevent conflicts from spiralling, and support an open, predictable trading environment," she said.

The WTO discussion, which began late on Tuesday and continues Wednesday, is the first time that mounting trade frictions were formally addressed on the agenda of the watchdog's top decision-making body, the General Council.

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Less than being a swipe at Washington, some delegates said they considered China's intervention more as an effort to show itself as supporting WTO rules - a posture that can help China win allies in ongoing global trade negotiations.

Disputes between the two top economies at the WTO long pre-date Trump's arrival. Beijing has accused Washington of breaking rules while Washington says Beijing does not deserve its "developing country" status which entitles it to special treatment under WTO rules.

As the Trump administration has announced plans to withdraw or disengage from other global organisations, the WTO has not yet been a major focus for the White House.

However, incoming US Trade Representative Jamieson Greer has called the WTO "deeply flawed".​
 

Trump says trade deal with China ‘possible’
Agence France-Presse . Washington 20 February, 2025, 23:48

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Donald Trump. | AFP file photo

US president Donald Trump suggested on Wednesday that a trade deal was ‘possible’ with China — a key target in the US leader’s tariffs policy.

In 2020, the United States had already agreed to ‘a great trade deal with China’ and a new deal was ‘possible,’ Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One.

Asked about the comments, Beijing’s foreign ministry said Thursday the two countries should handle trade tensions with ‘mutual respect.’

One month into his second term in office, Trump has threatened sweeping tariffs on allies and adversaries alike — targeting China as well as neighbours Canada and Mexico, and the European Union — and using levies as his main policy tool for lowering the massive US trade deficit.

At the beginning of February, he slapped additional customs duties of 10 per cent on all products imported from China.

Beijing’s foreign ministry said Thursday that China and the United States ‘should resolve their concerns through dialogue and consultation based on equality and mutual respect.’

‘Trade and tariff wars have no winners and only serve to damage the interests of people all over the world,’ ministry spokesman Guo Jiakun said at a regular press briefing.

At a separate news conference, China’s commerce ministry said Beijing ‘urges the US side not to wield the big stick of tariffs at every turn, using tariffs as a tool to engage in coercion all around.’

Trump is also threatening to impose 25 per cent tariffs on all imported cars, and similar or higher duties on pharmaceuticals and semiconductors as he turns up the heat on some of the biggest US trading partners.

He also told journalists aboard Air Force One on Wednesday that his administration was considering lumber tariffs of ‘maybe 25 per cent’ in the coming months.

The president initially announced tariffs of 25 per cent on all Canadian and Mexican imports, before U-turning hours before they were due to come into effect, granting a one-month reprieve in principle until March 1.

And he signed executive orders last week imposing new 25 per cent tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, due to come into effect on March 12.

Experts have warned it is often Americans who pay the costs of tariffs on US imports — not the foreign exporter.

Between Washington and Beijing, ‘there’s a little bit of competitiveness, but the relationship I have with president Xi (Jinping) is, I would say, a great one,’ Trump told reporters on Wednesday.

In addition to the leaders of France and Britain, Trump said Xi would also eventually be coming to Washington to meet with him.

Beijing has responded to the US tariffs with customs duties of 15 per cent on coal and liquefied natural gas and 10 per cent on oil and other goods, such as agricultural machinery and vehicles.

China is the country with the largest trade surplus with the United States in goods — $295.4 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, which reports to the US Department of Commerce.

US ally Japan last week said it had asked the United States to be exempt from Trump’s tariffs on steel and aluminium exports, and has underlined the importance of its auto industry.

Tokyo’s trade minister is arranging a visit to the United States in the coming weeks to further push for exemptions, Japanese media reported Thursday.

Yoji Muto was expected to meet US officials including new commerce secretary Howard Lutnick before March 12, when the 25 per cent tariffs on steel and aluminium imports were set to come into effect, Kyodo News said.

Trump’s latest remarks on tariffs came as the European Union’s trade chief vowed Wednesday that the bloc would respond ‘firmly and swiftly’ to protect its interests if Washington imposes tariffs on EU goods.

Maros Sefcovic rejected Trump’s claim that US-EU trade ties were unfair, calling them the ‘very definition of a win-win partnership.’

But he signalled the EU’s willingness for dealmaking, such as the possibility of reducing or eliminating tariffs on autos and other products.

‘If we are going to talk about lowering the tariffs, even eliminating the tariffs, let’s say for industrial products, this would be something which we are ready to discuss,’ he said.

Within the 27-nation EU, Germany has by far the largest trade surplus with the United States, largely thanks to its automobile industry and chemical giants such as Bayer and BASF, according to the European statistics agency, Eurostat.​
 

China vows response to latest US tariffs
Agence France-Presse . Beijing 28 February, 2025, 23:30

China on Friday vowed to take ‘all necessary countermeasures’ after US president Donald Trump said he would impose an additional 10 per cent tariff on Chinese imports — a decision Beijing warned would ‘seriously impact dialogue’.

Trump’s latest move will come into effect on Tuesday alongside sweeping 25 per cent levies on Canadian and Mexican imports, intensifying a brewing trade war between the world’s two largest economies.

The 10 per cent tariff on Chinese imports will come on top of an existing levy of the same rate imposed by Trump on China earlier this month.

Trump had announced — then halted — sweeping 25 per cent levies on Canadian and Mexican imports this month over illegal immigration and deadly fentanyl, with Canadian energy to face a lower rate.

But the month-long pause ends Tuesday.

Following reporters’ questions on whether he planned to proceed on the tariffs next week, Trump wrote on social media Thursday that until the problem of fentanyl stops ‘or is seriously limited’, the proposed levies will happen as scheduled.

‘China will likewise be charged an additional 10 per cent Tariff on that date,’ he added, referring to March 4.

In response to Trump’s allegations that Beijing is contributing to the fentanyl crisis in the United States, a spokesperson for China’s commerce ministry said Friday that Washington was ‘shifting the blame’.

‘China is one of the countries with the strictest and most thorough anti-narcotics policy in the world,’ the statement read.

‘But the US side has always ignored these facts,’ it said.

‘If the US side insists on going its own way, the Chinese side will take all necessary countermeasures to defend its legitimate rights and interests,’ it said.

The statement also said that the tariff hike ‘is not conducive to solving (the United States’) own problems’, adding that it would ‘increase the burden on American companies and consumers, and undermine the stability of the global industrial chain’.

Shortly after the statement was published, China’s foreign ministry warned that the new tariffs would ‘seriously impact dialogue’ between the two countries on narcotics control, accusing Washington of ‘blackmail’.

‘Pressure, coercion and threats are not the correct way to deal with China. Mutual respect is the basic premise,’ foreign ministry spokesman Lin Jian said at a daily press conference.

China’s leadership will convene next week to hammer out plans to shield its economy from Trump’s threats.

Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum on Thursday said she hoped to speak with Trump to avoid being hit by his threatened tariffs.

A high-level Mexican delegation is in Washington in search of an agreement.

And Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau said officials are working around the clock to avert US levies but would have an ‘immediate’ response if measures were imposed next week.

Trudeau has repeatedly stressed that less than one per cent of the fentanyl and undocumented migrants that enter the United States come through the Canadian border.

Trump’s threats have sent shivers through major exporter countries.

Asian markets were all well in the red early Friday, with Tokyo briefly shedding three per cent.

Besides levies over fentanyl, Trump added on his Truth Social platform that an April 2 date for so-called reciprocal tariffs ‘will remain in full force and effect’.

These will be tailored to each US trading partner, with details to come after government agencies complete studies on trade issues which Trump has called for.

In a letter this week by Chinese commerce minister Wang Wentao to newly confirmed US trade representative Jamieson Greer, Wang noted that Trump has called for many trade investigations ‘aimed at China’ and urged both sides to resolve their differences via dialogue.

Beijing has pushed back against US fentanyl concerns, saying Washington has to solve the issue itself rather than taking aim at other countries with levies.

Rather than the drugs being supplied directly to the United States, a Congressional Research Service report noted last year that US-bound fentanyl appears to be made in Mexico using chemical precursors from China.

While some precursors face international controls, others may be made and exported legally from countries like China.

In early February, China’s foreign ministry warned that fresh tariffs could hurt counter-narcotics cooperation.​
 

China’s foreign minister criticizes US tariffs and accuses the country of ‘meeting good with evil’
REUTERS
Published :
Mar 07, 2025 19:54
Updated :
Mar 07, 2025 19:54

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Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said China will continue to retaliate to the United States' "arbitrary tariffs" and accused Washington of "meeting good with evil" in a press conference Friday on the sidelines of the country's annual parliamentary session.

Wang said China's efforts to help the U.S. contain its fentanyl crisis have been met with punitive tariffs, which are straining the ties between the countries.

"No country should fantasize that it can suppress China and maintain a good relationship with China at the same time," Wang said. "Such two-faced acts are not good for the stability of bilateral relations or for building mutual trust."

The two countries have been reengaging in tit-for-tat retaliatory tariffs since U.S. President Donald Trump's return to office in January. The U.S. has imposed flat tariffs of 20% of all Chinese imports, while Beijing has countered with additional 15% duties on U.S. imports including chicken, pork, soy and beef, and expanded controls on doing business with key U.S. companies.

Regarding the Trump administration's policy of safeguarding U.S. interests above international cooperation, Wang said such an approach, if adopted by every country in the world, would result in the "law of the jungle."

"Small and weak countries will get burnt first, and the international order and rules will be under severe shock," Wang said. "Major countries should undertake their international obligations ... and not seek to profit from and bully the weak."​
 

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