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The People's Liberation Army Navy(also known as People's Navy, Chinese Navy, or PLA Navy) is the maritime service branch of the People's Liberation Army, and the largest navy per number of ships in the world.

The PLAN traces its lineage to naval units fighting during the Chinese Civil War and was established on 23 April 1949.

Until the late 1980s, the PLAN was largely a riverine and littoral force (brown-water navy). In the 1990s, following the fall of the Soviet Union and a shift towards a more forward-oriented foreign and security policy, the leaders of the Chinese military were freed from worrying overland border disputes. Traditionally subordinated to the PLA Ground Force, PLAN leaders were now able to advocate for renewed attention toward the seas.

Chinese military officials have outlined plans to operate in the first and second island chains, and have worked towards blue water capability.[8] Chinese strategists talk about the development of the PLAN from a green-water navy into "a regional blue-water defensive and offensive navy."[9] As the PLAN has expanded into a blue-water navy, regular exercises and naval patrols have increased in the South China Sea within the Nine-dash line, the Senkaku Islands/Diaoyutai in the East China Sea, and the island of Taiwan, which it all claims as its territory.

The People's Republic of China (PRC) along with the Republic of China (ROC), Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia, and the Philippines claims a significant amount of maritime boundary located within the South China Sea. Some exercises and patrols of the PLA NAVY in recent years went as close as the coastline of Japan, Taiwan, and Alaska within their EEZ although undisputed territorial waters have been not been crossed except in cases of innocent passage.

A huge navy but lacks the blue water capabilities. Their aircraft carriers can not go high sea far away from shore to perform operations. Their DF21D more hyped than successfully tested. One Russian expert had said that China will loose 40% of of ite naval fleet in trying to sink one aircraft carrier US. India has tested HGV which is nothing but a variant of India's LRASM missile which is being made to target Chinese ship in south China sea. China is building numbers rapidly but it is far away from being a blue water navy or an effective naval power in Indian Ocean.
 
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A huge navy but lacks the blue water capabilities. Their aircraft carriers can not go high sea far away from shore to perform operations. Their DF21D more hyped than successfully tested. One Russian expert had said that China will loose 40% of of ite naval fleet in trying to sink one aircraft carrier US. India has tested HGV which is nothing but a variant of India's LRASM missile which is being made to target Chinese ship in south China sea. China is building numbers rapidly but it is far away from being a blue water navy or an effective naval power in Indian Ocean.

Are you sure?

They have destroyers, quite a few (more in number than the Indian Navy).

China has approximately 42 destroyers in its navy, while India operates 12 guided-missile destroyers. The Chinese navy is rapidly expanding, which contributes to a significant numerical advantage over India's destroyer fleet.

In fact they are rivaling the US right now.

 
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Are you sure?

They have destroyers, quite a few (more in number than the Indian Navy).

China has approximately 42 destroyers in its navy, while India operates 12 guided-missile destroyers. The Chinese navy is rapidly expanding, which contributes to a significant numerical advantage over India's destroyer fleet.

In fact they are rivaling the US right now.


I agree.

They are No 1 in number. However, so far as sophistication is concerned, we are far ahead. Our destroyers have world's best attack and defence missiles. Brahmos and MRSAM are best in class. Our destroyers have torpedo decoy, best in class radar mounted high to track sea skimming missiles. Our air defence missiles can stop a sea skimming missiles just a half k.m. away. We are far ahead in missile technology compared to China.We have just tested ram jet powered 340 k.m. BVR .
 
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China's navy commissions new-generation frigate as competition rises with US and others
AP
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Jan 22, 2025 17:49
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Jan 22, 2025 17:49

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China's navy has commissioned a new-generation frigate as competition rises with the US and other regional powers, saying the ship will "play a vital role in enhancing the overall combat effectiveness" of its forces.

China already has the world's largest navy in terms of number of hulls, although its technology is sometimes seen as lagging. Its largest competitor, the US, has warned its Navy could be outnumbered and has called for a building program as well as reforms to put damaged ships into action sooner.

China's People's Liberation Army Navy operates mainly in waters off the Chinese east coast and in the huge and strategically crucial South China Sea, which China claims almost in its entirety. A key mission also remains backing up the army in any attack on Taiwan, the self-governing island democracy about 160 kilometers (100 miles) off the Chinese coast that Beijing has vowed to annex by force if necessary.

The first Type 054B frigate, christened the Luohe, was commissioned Wednesday in Qingdao, a port city in northern China where the PLAN's northern fleet is based.

The ship has a displacement of approximately 5,000 tons and includes stealth technology, combat command systems and firepower integration, "significantly enhancing overall performance," the navy said.

"With strong capabilities for comprehensive combat operations and diverse military missions, the warship will play a vital role in enhancing the overall combat effectiveness of naval task forces," it added.

The Luohe's armaments include a variety of machine guns for close combat and anti-air and anti-ship missiles, according to defense publications, some of which say the ship could become the backbone of the Chinese navy.

The statement said nothing about future 054Bs, but at least two more are believed to have been launched and another is under construction. China has around 234 warships compared to the US Navy's 219, including around 50 frigates and the same number of destroyers. China has two operating aircraft carriers and another undergoing sea trials, along with a massive and powerful coast guard.

Recent wargames have shown China would lose many more vessels in a simulated clash with the US, but would be able to absorb the losses and continue fighting.

The PLAN has also sent ships further abroad including the Mediterranean Sea and the Caribbean in its attempts to use its navy as an extension of its growing economic and diplomatic clout. PLAN and Chinese coast guard ships have also patrolled in the East China Sea, where China claims a group of uninhabited islands controlled by Japan. While planes and ships from both sides have come into contact, no shots have been fired during such incidents.

The US and other nations have deliberately sailed close to islands, some of them human-made, to challenge China's claim to them. Beijing has ignored a UN-backed court's ruling that threw out most of China's territorial claims.​
 
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China accuses Australia of ‘hyping’ naval drills
Agence France-Presse . Beijing, China 23 February, 2025, 22:20

Beijing on Sunday said Canberra had ‘deliberately hyped’ recent Chinese naval exercises near the Australian coast and confirmed its forces had used live fire in an incident that rattled Australian policymakers.

Authorities in Australia and close ally New Zealand have been monitoring three Chinese navy vessels spotted in recent days in international waters of the nearby Tasman Sea.

Canberra said Saturday it had not yet received a satisfactory explanation from Beijing for Friday’s drill, which saw the Chinese ships broadcast a live-fire warning that caused commercial planes to change course.

China’s defence ministry hit back on Sunday, saying the ‘relevant remarks of the Australian side are completely inconsistent with facts’, while also confirming the use of live ammunition.

‘During the period, China organised live-fire training of naval guns toward the sea on the basis of repeatedly issuing prior safety notices,’ Wu Qian, a spokesman for the defence ministry, said in a statement.

Wu added that China’s actions were ‘in full compliance with international law and international practices, with no impact on aviation flight safety’.

‘Australia, while well aware of this, made unreasonable accusations against China and deliberately hyped it up,’ said Wu, adding that Beijing was ‘astonished and strongly dissatisfied’.

The altercation threatens to complicate the relationship between Beijing and Canberra, which has gradually warmed under Australia’s Labor government.

Ties were derailed nearly a decade ago due to concerns in Australia about Chinese influence in local politics, followed by a 2018 ban on tech giant Huawei from Australia’s 5G network.

Earlier this month, Canberra rebuked Beijing for ‘unsafe’ military conduct, accusing a Chinese fighter jet of dropping flares near an Australian air force plane patrolling the South China Sea.

China said at the time that the Australian plane had ‘deliberately intruded into the airspace around China’s Xisha Islands’, using Beijing’s name for the Paracel Islands, adding that its ‘measures to expel the aircraft were legitimate, legal, professional and restrained’.​
 
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