[🇮🇷] Iranian Navy

[LegionnairE]

Another question is why Iran chose to build the flight deck so low. The ship seems to be much lighter than what the hull was designed for. For efficiency that bulbous bow should be submerged underwater but it looks like it'll remain outside water

if we imagined the red painted part of the hull submerged, we could start to see how low this flight deck really is compared to TCG Anadolu.

The more I look at it, the more it bothers me.

1) couldn't they raise the flight deck?
2) what's inside that superstructre? couldn't it be moved to below decks?
3) where are the elevators?
4) if there are no elevators where's the Hangar?

 

[Lulldapull]

Another question is why Iran chose to build the flight deck so low. The ship seems to be much lighter than what the hull was designed for. For efficiency that bulbous bow should be submerged underwater but it looks like it'll remain outside water

if we imagined the red painted part of the hull submerged, we could start to see how low this flight deck really is compared to TCG Anadolu.

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The more I look at it, the more it bothers me.

1) couldn't they raise the flight deck?
2) what's inside that superstructre? couldn't it be moved to below decks?
3) where are the elevators?
4) if there are no elevators where's the Hangar?

The vessel is empty! its under construction. When the food/ fuel/ cargo/ munitions/ drones/ and thousands of tons of equipment are on board/ installed, the water line would be where its painted anti-rust. And that nose bulb will also be submerged.

 

[Aryobarzan]

The vessel is empty! its under construction. When the food/ fuel/ cargo/ munitions/ drones/ and thousands of tons of equipment are on board/ installed, the water line would be where its painted anti-rust. And that nose bulb will also be submerged.

@LegionnairE
If you look at the TEU ships Silhouette..They are designed to stack up high large number of TEU on the deck (6 below and 8 above deck) . That means low CG for the ship is a design criteria and hence the low flight deck (my best guess)..These are ocean going vessels so they can withstand high "sea states" even with low CG architecture.

The Twitte you copied does mention addition of three major items: "elevators" for below deck access, addition of Flight control tower on the main superstructure and alteration of rear deck (possibly for Helo landing)

Will have to wait for more info but I recall I read somewhere they bought this ship for only $30 million ..If we add $100 million to fully redo the ship (engines too)and another $ 70 million for the add-on alteration we get a total of $200 million price tag..not bad considering that TCG Anadolu probably is somewhere around $ 1 billion dollars..(just guessing).. In any case these ship are just power projection vessels and will be NO 1 target for an enemy because sinking them has a very bad effect on moral..

 

[Lulldapull]

If you look at the TEU ships Silhouette..They are designed to stack up high large number of TEU on the deck (6 below and 8 above deck) . That means low CG for the ship is a design criteria and hence the low flight deck (my best guess)..These are ocean going vessels so they can withstand high "sea states" even with low CG architecture.

The Twitte you copied does mention addition of three major items: "elevators" for below deck access, addition of Flight control tower on the main superstructure and alteration of rear deck (possibly for Helo landing)

Will have to wait for more info but I recall I read somewhere they bought this ship for only $30 million ..If we add $100 million to fully redo the ship (engines too)and another $ 70 million for the add-on alteration we get a total of $200 million price tag..not bad considering that TCG Anadolu probably is somewhere around $ 1 billion dollars..(just guessing).. In any case these ship are just power projection vessels and will be NO 1 target for an enemy because sinking them has a very bad effect on moral..

I believe what that HI Sutton on covert shores is saying that these huge vessels are all FOB's. He suspects the Saviz and that Roudaki are also submarine tenders, where they have a flooding compartment underneath the hull to take a small sub or two along for long range activity, deep in the Indian ocean, far away from Persian gulf for surprise attacks. This thing can carry a hundred drones, FAC's, missiles and a full battalion of troops anywhere and carry a couple of anti-sub warfare choppers too. It's a good initiative.

 

[Lulldapull]

A good 10 minute read:

The 100,000 Ton US Navy Ship That Iran Is Copying - Naval News

The US Navy's gigantic Expeditionary Sea Base (ESB) ships are among the largest naval vessels afloat. They are part of America's unrivalled global reach, but they are no longer unique. Iran is testing a similar Forward Base Ship which is comparable in size.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Aryobarzan]

A good 10 minute read:

The 100,000 Ton US Navy Ship That Iran Is Copying - Naval News

The US Navy's gigantic Expeditionary Sea Base (ESB) ships are among the largest naval vessels afloat. They are part of America's unrivalled global reach, but they are no longer unique. Iran is testing a similar Forward Base Ship which is comparable in size.

www.navalnews.com

Iam a big fan of taking commercial ship and repurpose them for military applications..FOBs or Carriers are good examples..with today's weapons surface ships do not last very long so keep them at lowcost and make lots of them instead of one big expensive all military vessels.

 

[LegionnairE]

thousands of tons of equipment are on board/ installed, the water line would be where its painted anti-rust.

I'm just curious what thousands of tons of equipment would be on this ship.

Drones aren't that heavy, in fact they are very light, As far as I can tell, she'll take fuel, and that's it.

 

[LegionnairE]

The Twitte you copied does mention addition of three major items: "elevators" for below deck access, addition of Flight control tower on the main superstructure and alteration of rear deck (possibly for Helo landing)

Will have to wait for more info but I recall I read somewhere they bought this ship for only $30 million ..If we add $100 million to fully redo the ship (engines too)and another $ 70 million for the add-on alteration we get a total of $200 million price tag..not bad considering that TCG Anadolu probably is somewhere around $ 1 billion dollars..(just guessing).. In any case these ship are just power projection vessels and will be NO 1 target for an enemy because sinking them has a very bad effect on moral..

Ok, so there's a hangar deck below the flight deck, that will also be mostly empty space and very light so how they are going to optimize the hull is a bit of a curiosity for me.

And yes 100M$ is incredibly cheap, TCG Anadolu costed around 600 Million $ partially thanks to the fact that it has almost all the systems of an İstif class frigate aside from missiles. GENESIS/ADVENT combat management system, radars, EW systems etc. are all included.

Still, despite being so cheap, I'd prefer if they broke up the superstructure and rebuilt it in a way that would allow for a longer flight deck. It could be 220-230 meters of runway instead of 170 meters. That would allow for heavier UAVs. and wider margins of error for take-off and landing.