[🇧🇩-Airforce] MRCA Program of Bangladesh Air Force

[Jiangnan]

Thanks for the laughs

For some common sense. I don't want to explain too much. Now let's see the J-10C flying at ultra-low altitude.

 

[Saif]

Foundation, so the same plane? Don't understand.

He means that J-35A is based on FC-31. If I am not mistaken J-35A is an improved version of FC-31.

 

[Jiangnan]

Foundation, so the same plane? Don't understand.

FC31 is independently produced by SAC. Not authorized by the Chinese government. They also did not receive support from the Chinese government. After continuous improvement at SAC. The Chinese Air Force and Navy ultimately accepted it. And renamed as J-31/35.

 

[Jiangnan]

Feeling comfortable and being effective are different things.

Just like LCA, although IAF feels uncomfortable. But the Indian government believes it is effective.

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Your response is full of logical contradictions. Please consider carefully before replying.

 

[Jiangnan]

Regarding some issues pointed out by Indian friends. Lack of factual basis.

Taiwanese military experts note that in a high-tech confrontation in the Taiwan Strait, it will be difficult for the F-16V to counter the J-10C.

https://blog.udn.com/mobile/H101094880/170640875

J-10C can fight in any environment and any climate.

As for the weapons, avionics, and other issues related to the J-10C mentioned by Indian friends. Perhaps based on the experience of the Indian Air Force in countering Pakistan's old F-16.

 

[Bilal9]

Around 2017. I was chatting with a Bangladeshi friend. I would recommend Bangladesh to consider investing in SAC. Because SAC was in dire need of financial support at that time. It lost to CAC in the PLAAF bid. Almost all the money of the Air Force was invested in the CAC. At the time, SAC even sold some factories to save FC31. If Bangladesh can invest in SAC. In the future, it is possible to get the FC-31 at cost price.

But there is no "if". It's a pity

Yeah - water under the bridge now unfortunately.

Govt. stupidity in Bangladesh is too common. They don't know how to seize a good opportunity.

Not just FC-31, but I believe F-7BGI production line (now producing the FTC-2000, or the JL-9 supersonic trainer) was offered to Bangladesh at one point from Chengdu. That could have been a nice starting point for our first fighter. But even with glass cockpit, may have been a little dated aerodynamically. But one has to start somewhere.

 

[Saif]

Bangladesh Air Force chief's visit to China J-10c discussion

 

[Jiangnan]

What a big deal if that is done with refueling? We never thum our chest on Rafal flying non stop from France to India with refueling.

Not only in Himalayas, flying J10 is dangerous anywhere because so many of them has fallen down till date.
There was an another excercise as well where Gripen scored 34 to 0 against Chinese plane in BVR combat. These are outdated Gripen C/D. Imagine what will happen to your planes when it will face Rafale or Tejas? Your technologically inferior planes are only good for chest thumping but not good enough for fight any modern warfare.

Your reply almost made me think it was "50% made in India" Tejas flying directly from India to France.

but, The Myanmar Air Force used JF-17 to bomb India.

For within 70 years. The Indian Air Force crashed a 2374 fighter jet. There is nothing braver than Indians flying Indian planes.

SHOCKING! 2,374 IAF Crashes. 1,305 Pilots Killed

During these seven decades, the IAF has lost 2,374 aircraft to crashes. They include 1,126 fighters and 1,248 non-combat aircraft. In addition, 229 trainers and 196 helicopters have crashed. These crashes have resulted in the deaths of 1,305 skilled pilots, note Ajai Shukla and Devesh Kapur.

m.rediff.com

J-10C suppresses F16V and IDF in the Taiwan Strait. But how does the Indian Air Force suppress Pakistan's F-16C/D?

Just a reminder, the Chinese Air Force engages in high-tech confrontations with the US and Japanese Air Forces almost every day.

I don't know why Tejas is here. If I could drive the J-10 Do you have the courage to drive Tejas?

btw, Reminder again, the Myanmar Air Force used JF-17 to bomb India.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Your reply almost made me think it was "50% made in India" Tejas flying directly from India to France.

but, The Myanmar Air Force used JF-17 to bomb India.

For within 70 years. The Indian Air Force crashed a 2374 fighter jet. There is nothing braver than Indians flying Indian planes.

SHOCKING! 2,374 IAF Crashes. 1,305 Pilots Killed

During these seven decades, the IAF has lost 2,374 aircraft to crashes. They include 1,126 fighters and 1,248 non-combat aircraft. In addition, 229 trainers and 196 helicopters have crashed. These crashes have resulted in the deaths of 1,305 skilled pilots, note Ajai Shukla and Devesh Kapur.

m.rediff.com

J-10C suppresses F16V and IDF in the Taiwan Strait. But how does the Indian Air Force suppress Pakistan's F-16C/D?

Just a reminder, the Chinese Air Force engages in high-tech confrontations with the US and Japanese Air Forces almost every day.

I don't know why Tejas is here. If I could drive the J-10 Do you have the courage to drive Tejas?

btw, Reminder again, the Myanmar Air Force used JF-17 to bomb India.

Tejas is designed and developed by India unlike your J10 which is substandard rejected lavi design. JF 17 is rejected Russian design. Rest are Su series aircraft copies. You don't have a single design of your own. Your WS series engines are copy of Russian AL series. Even Pakistan rejected your made in China WS series in place of Russian engine in JF17. JF 17 is such a great aircraft that China itself still uses Mig 21 but keeps itself away from JF17. China is such a great nation which makes so called fifth generation plane but imports 4th generation Su35 and Su30 from Russia.

Myanmar bombed India? Where did you get this information from?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Just like LCA, although IAF feels uncomfortable. But the Indian government believes it is effective.

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Your response is full of logical contradictions. Please consider carefully before replying.

India Airforce has full freedom to accept or reject anything. Many countries has considered buying it including US, Brazil, Malaysia, Argentina, Egypt etc. It seems that only your unsubstantiated bluff is logical and rest isn't.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

J-10 is effective air platform. Pakistan has bought 25 units of J-10. The Egyptian air force is going ahead to sign a deal with China to procure large number of J-10 in near future. Iran is also in the race.

Pakistan has bought it because Pakistan can not buy plane from any other sources. No other country has bought it. Half of China's weapon export is to a single country which is Pakistan.

 

[Jiangnan]

Tejas is designed and developed by India unlike your J10 which is substandard rejected lavi design. JF 17 is rejected Russian design. Rest are Su series aircraft copies. You don't have a single design of your own. Your WS series engines are copy of Russian AL series. Even Pakistan rejected your made in China WS series in place of Russian engine in JF17. JF 17 is such a great aircraft that China itself still uses Mig 21 but keeps itself away from JF17. China is such a great nation which makes so called fifth generation plane but imports 4th generation Su35 and Su30 from Russia.

Myanmar bombed India? Where did you get this information from?

friend. Do you know what level Tejas is?

India's Tejas vs Pakistan's JF-17 in low-cost fighter showdown - Asia Times

The recent test flight of India’s homemade Tejas Mk 1A light combat fighter jet pits it directly against Pakistan's JF-17, in a heated subcontinent

asiatimes.com

Uh. You mean. Tejas was not designed by Dassault Systemes, was it designed by an Indian? You seem to be conveying an illusion to others~Tejas' main technology from India? Including engine？Do you want to take off with Tejas equipped with Indian engines?

But I am more interested in the Indian Air Force crashing 2374 fighter jets within 70 years. Which country do these fighter jets mainly come from?

Regarding Su35 in China. I'm sorry. I can't see any news about the Chinese Air Force using Su-35. Perhaps Indian friends are very interested in the Su-35. But for China. The Su-35 has fallen behind.

The Chinese Air Force mainly uses J-20 and J-16, then J-10C.

Rumors about J-10C and Lavi. You are only correct in one thing: Lavi is an unqualified failed product. It has never been put into large-scale service. Heavy reliance on Western technology. So when the US stops providing technology. Lavi immediately failed. Just like some assembled airplanes.

Regarding China's fifth generation fighter jets.

Do you have any questions? please.

Good news for our Indian friends. Although China has 300 5th generation fighter jets. But China only has 24 Su-35s. The Chinese Air Force almost never flies Su-35. After all, u know 35 > 20. congratulate. This is good news for the Indian Air Force.

Just curious, did anyone else remind you of any logical issues?

 

[Jiangnan]

India Airforce has full freedom to accept or reject anything. Many countries has considered buying it including US, Brazil, Malaysia, Argentina, Egypt etc. It seems that only your unsubstantiated bluff is logical and rest isn't.

You mean. US wants to buy Indian fighter jets equipped with US engines.？

Egypt wants to buy Indian fighter jets equipped with Israeli radar.

Argentina wants to buy Indian fighter jets equipped with European missiles.

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i 'm sorry. I thought your logical contradiction was only temporary.

 

[Jiangnan]

I have been trying to understand the logic of my Indian friends. Indian made fighter jets: engines from the United States (but with insufficient thrust and difficult supply). The radar comes from Israel, and the missiles come from Europe. Perhaps the landing gear and ejection seats also come from Europe. It may fly once a year. It may only fly for a dozen minutes at a time.

I don't even know what Indian-made tejas have to do with India. But Indian friends are laughing at the JF-17 and J-10.

The daily flight hours of J-10 may be the total annual flight hours of ALL Tejas.

I previously mentioned that J-10C flies directly from China to Egypt. My Indian friend said it's not a big deal. Rafale fighter jets can fly directly from France to India... I thought he said Tejas flew directly from India to France.

He even thinks that the Su-35 is the best plane in China???

Su-35 no match for J-10C in China’s aerial exercises

Recently Chinese military commentator Xi Yazhou revealed that in last year's air force exercise, China’s domestic J-10C fighter could suppress imported Su-35 fighter. In respects of avionics fire control and ammunition performance, Su-35 jet’s passive phased array radar is completely suppressed...

www.china-arms.com

Indians, oh.

 

[Jiangnan]

Tejas is designed and developed by India unlike your J10 which is substandard rejected lavi design. JF 17 is rejected Russian design. Rest are Su series aircraft copies. You don't have a single design of your own. Your WS series engines are copy of Russian AL series. Even Pakistan rejected your made in China WS series in place of Russian engine in JF17. JF 17 is such a great aircraft that China itself still uses Mig 21 but keeps itself away from JF17. China is such a great nation which makes so called fifth generation plane but imports 4th generation Su35 and Su30 from Russia.

Myanmar bombed India? Where did you get this information from?

honestly. Your dream Su-35 is very outdated.

Su-35 no match for J-10C in China’s aerial exercises

Recently Chinese military commentator Xi Yazhou revealed that in last year's air force exercise, China’s domestic J-10C fighter could suppress imported Su-35 fighter. In respects of avionics fire control and ammunition performance, Su-35 jet’s passive phased array radar is completely suppressed...

www.china-arms.com