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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India

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[🇮🇳] No surprise Pakistan sounded for ceasefire’: Air war historian Tom Cooper says conflict 'clear-cut victory' for India
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They have nurtured one puppet which barks when they ask them to Bark. Pakistan foreign minister confessed that they did all dirty work on behalf of US and UK. It is a mercenary army. They only force against who they can win in unarmed civilians.
THat is what Trump wanted Imran Khan to do but he dint do that the way he was told and went ahead with supporting Tallibunnies openlly and over entho against Nawaz and his croonies and made a personal fight against Pakistani establishment when they stopped supporting him and even started abusing and bad mouthing US over fictituos "CIFER" or so called "ABSOLEUTLY NOT" rant ;) :P

but now since these PMLN guy Khwajja Asif had finally swollowed the RED PILL the US hs given him a breather asking india to calm down


while India has now made a NEW NORMAL THAT IT WILL ACT AGAINST PAKISTAN IN CASE OF ANY TERROR ATTACK JUST LIKE HOW ISRAELIES ACT AGAINST HAMAS/HEZBOLLAH IN CASE OF ANY TERROR ATTACK ON ISREAL
 
3 S**t PL 15 were recovered in intact conditions and handed over to DRDO. After preliminary examination, DRDO said that there is nothing to reverse engineer. The seeker and data link used in PL 15 are far inferior to what is used in Astra. However, study of missile will help in developing counter measures of PL 15.

I think PL 15 is more of a rocket of MBRL rather than Air to air missile. It hits surface more than flying objects. Pakistan should use it as the rocket of hatf missile rather than using it as AAM.
 
3 S**t PL 15 were recovered in intact conditions and handed over to DRDO. After preliminary examination, DRDO said that there is nothing to reverse engineer. The seeker and data link used in PL 15 are far inferior to what is used in Astra. However, study of missile will help in developing counter measures of PL 15.

I think PL 15 is more of a rocket of MBRL rather than Air to air missile. It hits surface more than flying objects. Pakistan should use it as the rocket of hatf missile rather than using it as AAM.


@Jiangnan
 
Fighter planes today are not those NOSE DIVERS of WW2 vinatge that dropped there bombs andt 2000-1500 feet and then left rather they drop glide bombs and anty bumker or anty runway bombs from STANDOFF ranges with just with a metere and half accurate to the target

not every mission uses a Scalp or bhromse its only for very very important and difficult target like main command and control bunker or main missile complex or some vital instalation of core value but glide bombs like GAURAV or SAAW or LGBs & PGMs like PAVEWAY II , GRIFFIN, Hammer Spice are the main force used by most fighters of IAF for clinical strike like Sepecat Jaguars , Mirage2000, Mig29 or Su30MKI or LCA or Dassault Rafale and these LGBs and PGMs carry thrice explosives than Bhramose or Scalp or KH-59 but cost less than 1/10th

and in this opration legacy Artilary was not even used as of yet only Carl Gustav's and 80mm &120mm mortars that too in limited area on LOC or the indian Air Defnce assets like SPYDER, AKAASH , BARAK-8, MR & LR and AAD-PAD & S400 in some casses

so the POINT IS IAF FINALLY Banged the NEUCLEAR BLUFF Pakistani estblishment and media since 1998 and when things seemd to be going into spiral USA Jumped in and brokerrd a CEASEFIRE ON INDIAN TERMS

and Pakistani was playing a diversionarry TRUCK KI BATTI and celbrating the bombing of all its Major Air Basses and terror training factories is celbrating Victory even after loss of most of its vital arial instalation and fighter aircraft and so called startegic assets ;) :P
We've been had yaar.....no doubt now no?.......sub nu pata lugya si........damn we were so complacent like tractor/ tube well channay kamad da faram gareebaan di lattry life...... :ROFLMAO:

Punjab day pendu haingay never bothered even thinking what could happen to us.

My point was dat warfare has rendered AF as near obsolete.

Far cheaper solutions available now no?
 
There are news that Kairana nuke storage facility was hammered with Brahmos and spice 2000. It was not hit intentionally deep into the bunker else it would have resulted into disaster. Spice 2000 went deep before explosion and Brahmos hit entrance of the nuke storage facility. There is a lots of radiation in area and people are asked to vacates. Three earthquakes of Rictor scale 4.1 to 5.7 are noticed.
Hain? radiation vi phail gaee hae now?

What? where dis nhewj bhai?
 
When one side is bombing nuclear weapons storage facilities of the other, and the other has no ability to retaliate left, then that's a clear-cut victory in my books. No surprise Islamabad 'sounded' for a ceasefire.”

Love this. What else they would have done. Currently, operation Sindur is on pause. It can be resumed any time. This time attack shall be from Afghanistan as well. This time our Taliban brothers will join us from the soil of Afghanistan in operation Sindoor. Our Baluch brothers will declare freedom. They too will be supplied with huge quantity of ammunition to deter occupational force. Operation Sindoor part 2 will change the geography of the nation of terror.
 
I don't doubt Cooper's assessment at all. His evidence is that India's managed to accurately put a lot of precision ordnance on target, as opposed to Pakistan.

It was almost becoming the case that India had us pinned down. Indian AD was also exposed as layered, dense and highly integrated. This was a nasty surprise for Pakistan and Pakistan as per many accounts launched the Chinese made Nasr/ Fattah artillery rockets at multiple Indian AF bases but from the evidence, they were easily intercepted because of predictable hyperbolic trajectories.

We were just not prepared for this war and Indian missiles/ drones/ AD had rendered our defenses inadequate. We were starting to take severe losses and a ceasefire was thankfully enforced, before Pakistan military's failure was fully exposed.

Nothing outrageous this Tom Cooper's claimed.
 
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I don't doubt Cooper's assessment at all. His evidence is that India's managed to accurately put a lot of precision ordnance on target, as opposed to Pakistan.

It was almost becoming the case that India had us pinned down.

We were just not prepared for this war and Indian missiles/ drones/ AD had rendered our defenses inadequate. We were starting to take severe losses and a ceasefire was thankfully enforced, before Pakistan military's failure was fully exposed.

Nothing outrageous this Tom Cooper's claimed.
who ?

vid to dikhao
 
im disappoint but

some years ago there was talk of a stealth cruise mijjile that would line up with the runway and cluster bomb the entire strip.. not this fuss ek gaddhha kar dia konay me ja ke bc
 
who ?

vid to dikhao
I warned Pakistanis so many times that our military is living a fantasy of a generation ago. Oh bhai all these Eff-sola and Jeff Thunder and all ye bachon k khilonay hain.

Iran figured dis out a generation ago Sharma, that conventional/ legacy weaponry is a waste of resources. It has all essentially become obsolete:

 
Iranian asymmetric doctrine samajh aata hae ab desi logon ko?

This is why Iran don't buy these $30 million each jets which are basically junk now in modern warfare.
 
Iranian asymmetric doctrine samajh aata hae ab desi logon ko?

This is why Iran don't buy these $30 million each jets which are basically junk now in modern warfare.

lotsa chatter about scalp missile going fuss

na yeh durandal runway denial bombs hain

ki hain ?

koi proper positive confirmation waaloi khabr ni mil ree

Scalp/ Storm Shadows are the star performers in Ukraine bhai. Expensive, but highly effective.
 
Iranian asymmetric doctrine samajh aata hae ab desi logon ko?

This is why Iran don't buy these $30 million each jets which are basically junk now in modern warfare.


Scalp/ Storm Shadows are the star performers in Ukraine bhai. Expensive, but highly effective.
There's saturation attacks, effective, but its not like a golden chaabi that you don't need vs more sophisticated defences
 

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