[🇵🇰] Pakistan's options now after the Operation Sindoor debacle

[Lulldapull]

Date of Event: May 27, 2025

Source : https://www.PKDefense.com

I'm creating this thread to gain insight and research into what our options are now with the evident defeat and no doubt failure of Chinese and Turkish weaponry used by Pakistan, going on downstream?

Who can we approach besides the usual suspects in the US and the EU?

Any comments and suggestions welcome as this seems to be the only way out for an embattled Pakistan now.

 

[Lulldapull]

Who do wes go to now gents?......

So what do we do now guys?

Is there a way out here?

@Mainerik @Vsdoc @Sharma Ji @Krishna with Flute @PakistanProud @RayKalm @Bilal9 @Saif @Israel Person

 

[Sharma Ji]

Who do wes go to now gents?......

So what do we do now guys?

Is there a way out here?

@Mainerik @Vsdoc @Sharma Ji @Krishna with Flute @PakistanProud @RayKalm @Bilal9 @Saif @Israel Person

Pravin Sawhney waali vibes you giving, man.

ekdum doom and gloom me pust ho

wtf

littel bit Paxtan jindabad bhi karo, c'mon man.

dekho.. mulk dono mostly dalit potty cleaners hain

but we're cheering for ours, me and doc and guru and krishna and even mysore ki bagheeran.. all of us

aap log bhi cheer karo Munir Whisky sahab ko.. bande ko promotion of lifetime mili hai !

bechara Raheel.. he shoulda got it imo

 

[Lulldapull]

Pravin Sawhney waali vibes you giving, man.

ekdum doom and gloom me pust ho

wtf

littel bit Paxtan jindabad bhi karo, c'mon man.

dekho.. mulk dono mostly dalit potty cleaners hain

but we're cheering for ours, me and doc and guru and krishna and even mysore ki bagheeran.. all of us

aap log bhi cheer karo Munir Whisky sahab ko.. bande ko promotion of lifetime mili hai !

bechara Raheel.. he shoulda got it imo

What? Praveenhd Swaaheendy sahb on da Modi gubment bhatta tryin desperately to placate 20% of ghareeb muzloom hendu-pak converts in India no?

India nay hamari gaand maar dee hae in front of everyone......khulay aam......

Saari dunya nay hum say niga utthha lee hae no?

Ab kya izzat reh gaee hae hamari.......

@Vsdoc aaap dekh re ho kya anjaam huwa hae hamara? Iran huns ra hae hum per doc you can just about totally sense it no? Aur abhee Shebaaz Sharif Tehraand gya hae hathyaar mangnay. Whiskey nay uss ko bheja hae Pezeshkian ko makkhan lugganay to somehow bail us out with their proven hathyaar no?.......Chup chaap maang ra hae k bhai aap kuchh to day do, saadda haal vekho.....

Aur karo bharosa Humreeka k pitthu Chaindda per!........hamain third class junk hathyaar baichay aur vo sub fail ho gaey hain.....

toba toba toba hum zaleel ho gaey......

 

[Lulldapull]

@Vsdoc

Wes fukkin found out da hard way doc k ab kuchh aur sochna parray ga.....totally zaleel honay k baad!

Its a do or die now no? If Iran don't give us their hypersonics and drones and quasi ballistic/ cruise missiles no?

Hamara koi bhalla nahi phir.......Pata nahi kya karay ga ab Iran hamaray baray main?

If Irani weapons can punch thru US and Israeli defenses easily bhai (proven)......then who da fukk else do we go to no?



caption says wazir e azam sahb Iran k doray per Tehraand pohonch gaey!

 

[Paitoo]

I'm creating this thread to gain insight and research into what our options are now with the evident defeat and no doubt failure of Chinese and Turkish weaponry used by Pakistan, going on downstream?

Who can we approach besides the usual suspects in the US and the EU?

Any comments and suggestions welcome as this seems to be the only way out for an embattled Pakistan now.

I don't know why you are so despondent. What has changed negatively for Pakistan after this skirmish? As far as I am concerned, it is status quo. Both sides have confirmed that they cannot defeat the other side. Indians have confirmed that despite possessing the arsenal, they lack the will to escalate, because we care too much about ekanamy. By sending diplomatic delegations we are making a mockery of ourselves. No one gives a *&*&*&*& about the squabble between two bhikari countries.

 

[Paitoo]

When I heard about the ceasefire I was stunned. It was as KLPD as KLPD gets. This is not the action of someone who claims to be extremely angry and extremely full of vengeance as our govt was claiming. This is the action of someone who just wanted to let off steam, and having done that, was looking for an exit asap.

 

[Vsdoc]

What? Praveenhd Swaaheendy sahb on da Modi gubment bhatta tryin desperately to placate 20% of ghareeb muzloom hendu-pak converts in India no?

India nay hamari gaand maar dee hae in front of everyone......khulay aam......

Saari dunya nay hum say niga utthha lee hae no?

Ab kya izzat reh gaee hae hamari.......

@Vsdoc aaap dekh re ho kya anjaam huwa hae hamara? Iran huns ra hae hum per doc you can just about totally sense it no? Aur abhee Shebaaz Sharif Tehraand gya hae hathyaar mangnay. Whiskey nay uss ko bheja hae Pezeshkian ko makkhan lugganay to somehow bail us out with their proven hathyaar no?.......Chup chaap maang ra hae k bhai aap kuchh to day do, saadda haal vekho.....

Aur karo bharosa Humreeka k pitthu Chaindda per!........hamain third class junk hathyaar baichay aur vo sub fail ho gaey hain.....

toba toba toba hum zaleel ho gaey......

Biggest low IQ move of the sanghi brigade was to cosy up to a nation that once threatened to nuke us.

To actually buy hardware from a nation that has its intelligence deeply linked and embedded in our enemy nation and arms and keeps it afloat financially.

It should be clear it every nation's mind and political calculus that you cannot tango with both India and Pakistan.

They are oil and water. They will never mix.

You can be friend of only one.

And at a time like rhis, when you are friend to one, the other you automatically make your enemy.

I hope Iran realizes this.

 

[Vsdoc]

When I heard about the ceasefire I was stunned. It was as KLPD as KLPD gets. This is not the action of someone who claims to be extremely angry and extremely full of vengeance as our govt was claiming. This is the action of someone who just wanted to let off steam, and having done that, was looking for an exit asap.

You voted for BJP no?

Don't be stunned.

Develop some rage. Make your vote talk the one time it counts.

 

[Paitoo]

You voted for BJP no?

Don't be stunned.

Develop some rage. Make your vote talk the one time it counts.

BJP is baniya sarkar. Inn ke buss ki nahi hai escalation. Lekin congress mei kaun se dhurandhar baithay hain sir?

 

[Vsdoc]

BJP is baniya sarkar. Inn ke buss ki nahi hai escalation. Lekin congress mei kaun se dhurandhar baithay hain sir?

Party DNA.

Not personalities please.

You bamman. You read my recent posts to Sharma.

You not manchild. Aside from that, they hold good for you too.

 

[Lulldapull]

I don't know why you are so despondent. What has changed negatively for Pakistan after this skirmish? As far as I am concerned, it is status quo. Both sides have confirmed that they cannot defeat the other side. Indians have confirmed that despite possessing the arsenal, they lack the will to escalate, because we care too much about ekanamy. By sending diplomatic delegations we are making a mockery of ourselves. No one gives a &&&& about the squabble between two bhikari countries.

Nahi bhai, iss duffa hum waqaee nungay ho gaey hain........Dis a 1971 moment for us now, all over again.

Carefully crafted image of our military supremacy after Afghanistan and whatnot, sub mitti main mill gya.

Had Trump not intervened on our behalf Paitoo bhai.......hum to gaey thay!

 

[Vsdoc]

@Sharma Ji please @Paitoo ji ko directings. Helpings.

 

[Lulldapull]

Biggest low IQ move of the sanghi brigade was to cosy up to a nation that once threatened to nuke us.

To actually buy hardware from a nation that has its intelligence deeply linked and embedded in our enemy nation and arms and keeps it afloat financially.

It should be clear it every nation's mind and political calculus that you cannot tango with both India and Pakistan.

They are oil and water. They will never mix.

You can be friend of only one.

And at a time like rhis, when you are friend to one, the other you automatically make your enemy.

I hope Iran realizes this.

Mujhay pata hae doc ye taqreeban fuzool trip hae........Iran even secretly hamain day ga nahi kuchh bhee, kyun k India will severely object.

Smuggling shayed increase kar day hopefully.

 

[Paitoo]

Party DNA.

Not personalities please.

You bamman. You read my recent posts to Sharma.

You not manchild. Aside from that, they hold good for you too.

Sir ji, me borderline atheist and no believe in caste system. My banter with @Sharma Ji about dalits is only about low class people bringing shame to the country, whether bammans or otherwise. It's all for fun.

I believe any govt, whether Congi or BJP, would have been pressurized to act in haste due to the relentless media and social media war mongering. In defence of the govt (not any party), it's options were limited. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. You can't pulverize a well prepared enemy like Pak after a few days planning. At the same time you can't wait for the fizz to die out. Itnay paisay mei itna hi milega wala scene tha.

 

[Vsdoc]

Mujhay pata hae doc ye taqreeban fuzool trip hae........Iran even secretly hamain day ga nahi kuchh, kyun k India will severely object.

My confidence in Islamic bonds is stronger than yours.

I'm watching this space.

I'm sure all Indians are.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I'm creating this thread to gain insight and research into what our options are now with the evident defeat and no doubt failure of Chinese and Turkish weaponry used by Pakistan, going on downstream?

Who can we approach besides the usual suspects in the US and the EU?

Any comments and suggestions welcome as this seems to be the only way out for an embattled Pakistan now.

Best way for Pakistan is to stop terrorism, go back to its roots of Hinduism, disolve it's useless coward army, Ban close marriages, make society spiritual and focus on education and development. I can't see any other way for the well-being of Pakistan.

 

[Vsdoc]

Sir ji, me borderline atheist and no believe in caste system. My banter with @Sharma Ji about dalits is only about low class people bringing shame to the country, whether bammans or otherwise. It's all for fun.

I believe any govt, whether Congi or BJP, would have been pressurized to act in haste due to the relentless media and social media war mongering. In defence of the govt (not any party), it's options were limited. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. You can't pulverize a well prepared enemy like Pak after a few days planning. At the same time you can't wait for the fizz to die out. Itnay paisay mei itna hi milega wala scene tha.

Even Sharma claims he borderline atheist and does Dalit baaji only in jest.

I am dead serious.

Read my posts. Sharma had the benefit of similar double dises on WhatsApp too.

You have your foot on the neck of the enemy, you press down harder. Crush the cartilaginous trachea to block his breath.

Not take your foot off the first phone call you get.

Party DNA.

In 1971 had the sanghis been in power, a new nation would never have been birthed.

And our enemy never been broken in two.

 

[Lulldapull]

My confidence in Islamic bonds is stronger than yours.

I'm watching this space.

I'm sure all Indians are.

Assad ko kuchh nahi diya (asli maal) Hezb aur Hoosi ko bhee B grade deta hae (high tech guidance kits/ sensitive gyroscopes for precision INS targetting/ GPS bricks and its high value assets in AD/ hypersonic/ drones).......deta nahi hae doc.....

They don't even trust their closest proxies no? kaheen US/ Israel don't get their hands on it.

Iran is just like da US on transfer of sensitive tech.

 

[Vsdoc]

Assad ko kuchh nahi diya (asli maal) Hezb aur Hoosi ko bhee B grade deta hae (high tech guidance kits/ sensitive gyroscopes for precision INS targetting/ GPS bricks and its high value assets in AD/ hypersonic/ drones).......deta nahi hae doc.....

They don't even trust their closest proxies no? kaheen US/ Israel don't get their hands on it.

You are neither Assad nor Houthis.

You are not Afghanistan either.

You are a nuclear neighbour.

A pact of the devil is not unthinkable to my brain at least.

Remember, you are also a source of easy readymade nukes ....

 

[Paitoo]

Best way for Pakistan is to stop terrorism, go back to its roots of Hinduism, disolve it's useless coward army, Ban close marriages, make society spiritual and focus on education and development. I can't see any other way for the well-being of Pakistan.

Sir ji, woh sab nahi honay wala. Sab wishful thinking hai. Pakistan's only locus standi in the world is it's leverage on terrorist groups, created and sheltered by itself. It's like a thug who asks for protection money from the west for not bombing the west. Without this raison d'etre there is no Pakistan.

As regards spiritualism, who is going to teach them? Indians themselves are becoming more and more ritualistic.

 

[Suresh Naresh]

I'm creating this thread to gain insight and research into what our options are now with the evident defeat and no doubt failure of Chinese and Turkish weaponry used by Pakistan, going on downstream?

Who can we approach besides the usual suspects in the US and the EU?

Any comments and suggestions welcome as this seems to be the only way out for an embattled Pakistan now.

BEST ADVICE:

Sit back, relax, watch a movie / television show you like, as you watch, eat / drink something you like and go to sleep on the same sofa you were sitting on. Not everyone is Fortunate to have A Good Night's Sleep after putting all the Personal Family affairs in order.

 

[Vsdoc]

Remember, you are also a source of easy readymade nukes ....

And what you suck at ... Miniaturisation and Delivery ...

Guess who excels at.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Sir ji, woh sab nahi honay wala. Sab wishful thinking hai. Pakistan's only locus standi in the world is it's leverage on terrorist groups, created and sheltered by itself. It's like a thug who asks for protection money from the west for not bombing the west. Without this raison d'etre there is no Pakistan.

As regards spiritualism, who is going to teach them? Indians themselves are becoming more and more ritualistic.

I said what was required. I have not narrated the mechanism to put it on practice.

 

[Vsdoc]

BEST ADVICE:

Not everyone is Fortunate to have A Good Night's Sleep after putting all the personal family affairs in order.

Word.

 

[Paitoo]

@Sharma Ji please @Paitoo ji ko directings. Helpings.

@Sharma Ji please sharing details asap

 

[Lulldapull]

You are neither Assad nor Houthis.

You are not Afghanistan either.

You are a nuclear neighbour.

A pact of the devil is not unthinkable to my brain at least.

Remember, you are also a source of easy readymade nukes ....

Doc Iran hum say 100 saal agay hae bhai in technology. And its their own proprietary tech.

Saara hamara nuke program under US/ China lock n key.

Aaj takk aik bhee world famous weapon nahi banaya hum nay (exportable/ commercialized).......Irans has made dozens of em in the last two decades alone and they are game changers.

US aur Israel k aagay Iran aesay hee nahi kharra huwa hum ghareebon key tarha nunga against India on rhetoric alone, which India has just trashed ours in front of everyone aur hum expose ho gaey.

 

[Vsdoc]

Doc Iran hum say 100 saal agay hae bhai in technology. And its their own proprietary tech.

Saara hamara nuke program under US/ China lock n key.

Aaj takk aik bhee world famous weapon nahi banaya hum nay (exportable/ commercialized).......Irans has made dozens of em in the last two decades alone and they are game changers.

US aur Israel k aagay Iran aesay hee nahi kharra huwa hum ghareebon key tarha nunga against India on rhetoric alone, which India has just trashed ours in front of everyone aur hum expose ho gaey.

Bro I keep having this dirty suspicion of a deep underground bunker. Housing just 5 F16s and 5 nukes.

Even if we get all the rest.

Even if one of these 5 detonate over any part of India,

Our population density will do the rest.

One last chaddi banyan kamikaze mission.

 

[Paitoo]

Bro I keep having this dirty suspicion of a deep underground bunker. Housing just 5 F16s and 5 nukes.

Even if we get all the rest.

Even if one of these 5 detonate over any part of India,

Our population density will do the rest.

One last chaddi banyan kamikaze mission.

It is pathetic how Indian defence enthusiasts are rejoicing as if we have neutralized the threat from Pak. Underestimating enemies has been our centuries old bimari. We think only we have brains, and others are idiots. Katju was right, 80% Indians are idiots. Probably more.

 

[Vsdoc]

It is pathetic how Indian defence enthusiasts are rejoicing as if we have neutralized the threat from Pak. Underestimating enemies has been our centuries old bimari. We think only we have brains, and others are idiots. Katju was right, 80% Indians are idiots. Probably more.

I told our guys here.

Tom Cooper has morphed from expert to paid shill.

Going on to a dozen Indian channels. Milking the fat milch cow.

I do not buy the absurd claim that Pakistan is no longer a nucler power.

That it can no longer deliver.

Sorry man.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Even Sharma claims he borderline atheist and does Dalit baaji only in jest.

I am dead serious.

Read my posts. Sharma had the benefit of similar double dises on WhatsApp too.

You have your foot on the neck of the enemy, you press down harder. Crush the cartilaginous trachea to block his breath.

Not take your foot off the first phone call you get.

Party DNA.

In 1971 had the sanghis been in power, a new nation would never have been birthed.

And our enemy never been broken in two.

you do realize Raul's granny been dead a whiles now, don't you ?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Assad ko kuchh nahi diya (asli maal) Hezb aur Hoosi ko bhee B grade deta hae (high tech guidance kits/ sensitive gyroscopes for precision INS targetting/ GPS bricks and its high value assets in AD/ hypersonic/ drones).......deta nahi hae doc.....

They don't even trust their closest proxies no? kaheen US/ Israel don't get their hands on it.

Iran is just like da US on transfer of sensitive tech.

oh please, bad as they are, US and co got the tech edge.. BIGLY TREMENDOUS edge

 

[Vsdoc]

you do realize Raul's granny been dead a whiles now, don't you ?

Rahul has his granny's DNA.

Rahul is not a buzdil banya.

Rahul will not let dhando and ekanami come in the way of crushing our enemies.

Rahul has breeding and class and no dalit deficiencies.

 

[Vsdoc]

oh please, bad as they are, US and co got the tech edge.. BIGLY TREMENDOUS edge

Keep sucking.

He wont even come in your mouth.

Thats sanghi 101 for you.

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Ye leyo. Ek zabardast scene enjoy karo:





@Sharma Ji @Vsdoc @Paitoo @Guru Dutt @Lulldapull @Krishna with Flute @Dogun18 @Mrloveday @Cryptonian

 

[Vsdoc]

Ye leyo. Ek zabardast scene enjoy karo:





@Sharma Ji @Vsdoc @Paitoo @Guru Dutt @Lulldapull @Krishna with Flute @Dogun18 @Mrloveday @Cryptonian

Tune love day ko bhaga diya.

Dogun bhayya in extreme depression.

 

[Suresh Naresh]

Tune love day ko bhaga diya.

Dogun bhayya in extreme depression.

Maine tujhe bhagaya tha. Lavde ke baal ko nahi. Usko toh JC forum ke mods/admins ne bhagaya perma ban karke.

 

[Lulldapull]

oh please, bad as they are, US and co got the tech edge.. BIGLY TREMENDOUS edge

No they don’t and we see it now. India destroyed 8 eff-sola and 2 AWACS and causing not less than $5 billion in damage using Russian S-400’s and Russian brahmos. Used the French scalp to great effect no? Pakistan aur China dono key putloon utaar dee by cleverly using its own designed weapons and jamming systems. It’s no small feat. Paralyze ker diya Pakistan ko, along with exposing Turkish junk maal we’ve been buying.

Likewise the iranis have totally intimidated the whole GCC and bhattay ka Israel, with their US supplied multi trillion dollar defense complexes. Push comes to shove, Iran in sub ko rond k rakh day ga.

Doodh ka peshaab aur daaru all has come gushing out from everyone’s ass in public now…..

Aaaaahahahahaaaaa

 

[Sharma Ji]

No they don’t and we see it now. India destroyed 8 eff-sola using Russian S-400’s and Russian brahmos. Used the French scalp to great effect no? Pakistan aur China dono key putloon utaar dee by cleverly using its own designed weapons and jamming systems. It’s no small feat.

Likewise the iranis have totally intimidated the whole GCC and bhattay ka Israel, with their US supplied multi trillion dollar defense complexes. Push comes to shove, Iran in sub ko rond k rakh day ga.

Doodh ka peshaab aur daaru all has come gushing out from everyone’s ass in public now…..

Aaaaahahahahaaaaa

Iran have no air force

they have made effective use of conventional ballistic SRBMs though

they also barely have a navy to speak of

 

[Paitoo]

Maine tujhe bhagaya tha. Lavde ke baal ko nahi. Usko toh JC forum ke mods/admins ne bhagaya perma ban karke.

What is JC forum??

 

[Sharma Ji]

amriki commie types discuss

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran have no air force

they have made effective use of conventional ballistic SRBMs though

they also barely have a navy to speak of

Iran is decades ahead of 99% of de whulld!

Russian AF aur navy ka aaj haal dekh lo aap.



You don’t need them anymore! Both are obsolete no?

 

[Sharma Ji]

What is JC forum??

jihad central, defencepk.com

 

[Vsdoc]

What is JC forum??

Jihad Central

Mera coining

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran is decades ahead of 99% of de whulld!

Russian AF aur navy ka aaj haal dekh lo aap.



You don’t need them anymore! Both are obsolete no?

no

fir toh bus ghar pe ak47 le kar intezaar karo, ki kab SEAL team ayegi aapko hello bolne

 

[Lulldapull]

Iran have no air force

they have made effective use of conventional ballistic SRBMs though

they also barely have a navy to speak of

If Iran was weak bhai, the US and Israel woulda long fukked it up no? Just like these other do rupaay key Middle East countries no?

Day n night dhamkian buss…..karna Kuchh nahi hae west nay.

 

[Lulldapull]

no

fir toh bus ghar pe ak47 le kar intezaar karo, ki kab SEAL team ayegi aapko hello bolne

Is any combatant using navy or AF in Ukraine?

The most high tech jang out there?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran is decades ahead of 99% of de whulld!

Russian AF aur navy ka aaj haal dekh lo aap.



You don’t need them anymore! Both are obsolete no?

huge ass coastline, of course they need a navy.. they have a fuss type navy with some fast boats and that ridiculous carrier where they play make belief about storming the Carl Vinson or something.. its quite comical, kinda sad even.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Is any combatant using navy or AF in Ukraine?

The most high tech jang out there?

woh ladai mostly land pe hai, bhai

and Russia have a famously fuss Navy

 

[Sharma Ji]

in fact that whole DOnbass (now whole of Ukraine) jung is mostly about Russia's only warm water port, Crimea/Sevastopol.

 

[Lulldapull]

huge ass coastline, of course they need a navy.. they have a fuss type navy with some fast boats and that ridiculous carrier where they play make belief about storming the Carl Vinson or something.. its quite comical, kinda sad even.

Iran has hypersonic anti ship missiles Sharma! They can strike anything, anywhere with pinpoint accuracy. They showed just a fraction of this capability with the hoosi.

Teri much vaunted USN bhaag gaee Red Sea say no?

 

[Sharma Ji]

If Iran was weak bhai, the US and Israel woulda long fukked it up no? Just like these other do rupaay key Middle East countries no?

Day n night dhamkian buss…..karna Kuchh nahi hae west nay.

they have their strengths, but navy and air force aren't in their list of strengths.

asymmetric proxy warfare ke masters hain.. fight al qaeda and others in Syria, Lubnaan, Iraq .. and some missile forces

 

[Lulldapull]

in fact that whole DOnbass (now whole of Ukraine) jung is mostly about Russia's only warm water port, Crimea/Sevastopol.

Russian AF is junk! And so is Russia navy. Both grounded no? 3 saal ho gaey bhai.

Only drones and missiles now bhai…..buss….

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran has hypersonic anti ship missiles Sharma! They can strike anything, anywhere with pinpoint accuracy. They showed just a fraction of this capability with the hoosi.

Teri much vaunted USN bhaag gaee Red Sea say no?

the way haanthi ko makkhi tang karti hai waali baat

 

[Vsdoc]

Russian AF is junk! And so is Russia navy. Both grounded no? 3 saal ho gaey bhai.

Only drones and missiles now bhai…..buss….

Too simplistic.

Artillery is the Russian way of war.

Followed by mechanized infantry advances to take and hold ground.

Terrain dictates the war and systems used.

 

[Lulldapull]

they have their strengths, but navy and air force aren't in their list of strengths.

asymmetric proxy warfare ke masters hain.. fight al qaeda and others in Syria, Lubnaan, Iraq .. and some missile forces

Iran is teaching Russians how to fight asymmetric now. Otherwise Russia will lose!

Paisay nahi hain Russia k paas to take on the might of the whole western world no?

 

[Sharma Ji]

Russian AF is junk! And so is Russia navy. Both grounded no? 3 saal ho gaey bhai.

Only drones and missiles now bhai…..buss….

yes, Russia also traditionally not a naval power, still aren't.. army hi army hai

 

[Vsdoc]

yes, Russia also traditionally not a naval power, still aren't.. army hi army hai

Terrain.

And adversaries.

And ancestral doctrine.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Iran is teaching Russians how to fight asymmetric now. Otherwise Russia will lose!

Paisay nahi hain Russia k paas to take on the night of the whole western world no?

Yes, they have made good yogdaan with suicide drones in Russia's war effort in Ukraine.. both land powers.

 

[Vsdoc]

Terrain.

And adversaries.

And ancestral doctrine.

They did not even have adequate landing craft to reach Japan.

Unka size dekho.

 

[Vsdoc]

Safe to say neither America nor Russia will be invading each other anytime soon.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Too simplistic.

Artillery is the Russian way of war.

Followed by mechanized infantry advances to take and hold ground.

Terrain dictates the war and systems used.

yes, scorched earth burn it to the ground.. grad, tos-1a, pinaka and more... arty, rocket arty etc

 

[Lulldapull]

Too simplistic.

Artillery is the Russian way of war.

Followed by mechanized infantry advances to take and hold ground.

Terrain dictates the war and systems used.

It’s thousands of miles of open flat country. Frontline army and battle tactics are all dictated by drones and attacks on the rear using drones and ballistic missiles no? AF kya karay gee ab? Or rotary aviation? They get shot down in under two minutes.

Don’t think for a second you can compare Ukraine war with a termite infested moth eaten Pakistani military peddling Chinese and Turkish junk maal.

Russia is fighting the best there is out there in technology and tactics

 

[Mainerik]

Safe to say neither America nor Russia will be invading each other anytime soon.

America and Russia are what Pakistan and India are at a much higher level. Although they share very small borders, they are still miles away from their main areas but could pinpoint one another with nuclear and missile accuracy.

Pakistan and India are similar as to that they have nuclear and missile tech capable of destroying one another, but have a very longed shared border so the skirmishes are constant.

 

[Vsdoc]

yes, scorched earth burn it to the ground.. grad, tos-1a, pinaka and more... arty, rocket arty etc

Huge respect for Ukraine bro.

Its effectively two Russian armies facing off.

4 years.

How long do you think we would have been able to sustain such a war. Hypothetically. In Ukraine shoes?

 

[TheNewb77]

Huge respect for Ukraine bro.

Its effectively two Russian armies facing off.

4 years.

How long do you think we would have been able to sustain such a war. Hypothetically. In Ukraine shoes?

Ukraine has all of NATO, including Turkish drone tech, backing it with weaponary.

Russia doesn't get much military support from China. It gets some help from Iran and some soldiers from North Korea.

 

[Lulldapull]

Yes, they have made good yogdaan with suicide drones in Russia's war effort in Ukraine.. both land powers.

Oh bhai Irani fighting the best out there too no in technology no? Of course they’ve gotten good no?

Pakistan got no modern war experience whatsoever. Just counter insurgency against jungli afghani.

 

[Vsdoc]

Ukraine has all of NATO, including Turkish drone tech, backing it with weaponary.

Russia doesn't get much military support from China. It gets some help from Iran and some soldiers from North Korea.

Ukraine still has to fight with its own men and women.

In 4 years it has ceded about 20% of its territory.

Each kilometre of advance is being fought for viciously.

A war of attrition. Russian style. That can and will have only one victor.

 

[Vsdoc]

@Lulldapull @Paitoo

Mastan Khan has gone into frank terminal senile decline at JC.

 

[Paitoo]

@Lulldapull @Paitoo

Mastan Khan has gone into frank terminal senile decline at JC.

I have just been catching up on the discussions on JC. He seemed to be a sceptic at first, didn't he? Now phull sapport types. Looks like he had his software updated by Field Marshal

 

[Lulldapull]

I have just been catching up on the discussions on JC. He seemed to be a sceptic at first, didn't he? Now phull sapport types. Looks like he had his software updated by Field Marshal

Theres a few handfull over there who need to be beaten up like pigs with a baseball bat. Itni bukvaas baatain k banda tang aajaey bhai.

Aik dum ullu k putthay hain.

Mastaand ka suar was an airhostess on philipines air.......

bhossrreeka lower caste.

 

[Paitoo]

Theres a few handfull over there who need to be beaten up like pigs with a baseball bat. Itni bukvaas baatain k banda tang aajaey bhai.

Aik dum ullu k putthay hain.

Mastaand ka suar was an airhostess on philipines air.......

bhossrreeka lower caste.

Bhai unlike Indians, Pakistanis used to be somewhat realistic and critical of their own affairs. Lekin iss dafa ek ajeeb si chillam ka asar dikh raha hai saari junta par. It is almost too good to be believed. Looks like some well planned campaign.

 

[Lulldapull]

@Lulldapull @Paitoo

Mastan Khan has gone into frank terminal senile decline at JC.

If I see him and a few others doc.......they not goin survive.......

Suar hain harami and they openly back Al-Qaeda/ Daesh and whatever is the flavor of the CIA special of the day.

 

[Lulldapull]

Bhai unlike Indians, Pakistanis used to be somewhat realistic and critical of their own affairs. Lekin iss dafa ek ajeeb si chillam ka asar dikh raha hai saari junta par. It is almost too good to be believed. Looks like some well planned campaign.

yaar we got done in bhai......ab iss main kya sharmanay key baat?

Jo hae vo hae......

Jhuttlanay say kuchh ne hona!

 

[Vsdoc]

I have just been catching up on the discussions on JC. He seemed to be a sceptic at first, didn't he? Now phull sapport types. Looks like he had his software updated by Field Marshal

He was always a disgruntled jihadist.

This latest war has pushed him irrevocably over the edge.

@Lulldapull knows him well.

Would be good to invite J_hungary (sp?) here.

He is a trained military professional. I'm a trained medical professional.

But its brilliant to see him spell out almost exactly every point I am making here, and I made earlier on the OG forum.

Please check out the Remember what Doc told the Pakistanis in 2019 thread here.

 

[Vsdoc]

Theres a few handfull over there who need to be beaten up like pigs with a baseball bat. Itni bukvaas baatain k banda tang aajaey bhai.

Aik dum ullu k putthay hain.

Mastaand ka suar was an airhostess on philipines air.......

bhossrreeka lower caste.

He is currently, in his day job, selling old cars in the US.

I'm not making this up.

And rescue ranger runs a grocery store in the UK.

Or was it windjammer ...

 

[Lulldapull]

He was always a disgruntled jihadist.

This latest war has pushed him irrevocably over the edge.

@Lulldapull knows him well.

Would be good to invite J_hungary (sp?) here.

He is a trained military professional. I'm a trained medical professional.

But its brilliant to see him spell out almost exactly every point I am making here, and I made earlier on the OG forum.

Please check out the Remember what Doc told the Pakistanis in 2019 thread here.

Jhugary ka ghantti wala (chhotti si lulli hilanay waala like mandir key ghantti) is a hispanic......migrated down unda.......

udher polciya bun gya.......then into filain ghisna and minor IT support. Phir Aussie military main low rank.......lol

Bhai, ye saaray bicharon ka lower caste tabqa doc.......

Aaaaaaaahahaahahaaaaaaa.......

kya bolain aur.......

 

[Vsdoc]

Jhugary ka ghantti wala (chhotti si lulli hilanay waala like mandir key ghantti) is a hispanic......migrated down unda.......

udher polciya bun gya.......then into filain ghisna and minor IT support. Phir Aussie military main low rank.......lol

Bhai, ye saaray bicharon ka lower caste tabqa doc.......

Aaaaaaaahahaahahaaaaaaa.......

kya bolain aur.......

Yeah, half chink half hispanic. I know his history.

 

[Paitoo]

This latest war has pushed him irrevocably over the edge.

That seems to be the case with a lot of them. They are all eating military chooran for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't know and will never know what the real score is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it. On the other hand, I see some scepticism emerging in the Indian forum, though not by a big margin.

 

[Vsdoc]

That seems to be the case with a lot of them. They are all eating military chooran for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't know and will never know what the real score is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it. On the other hand, I see some scepticism emerging in the Indian forum, though not by a big margin.

Indian forum will always remain BC (bhakt central).

You are not allowed to question Modi and the BJP narrative there.

I mean, bammans like you will get cussed and abused.

But can still hold your own if you indulge in offence and gaali galoch.

But Parsis (forget about Ms) cannot survive off the narrow line there.

And a guy like me will eventually get called a Porki and a snake and banned.

Which happened. After I sodomized them for a month.

 

[Lulldapull]

That seems to be the case with a lot of them. They are all eating military chooran for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't know and will never know what the real score is, but at least I am honest enough to admit it. On the other hand, I see some scepticism emerging in the Indian forum, though not by a big margin.

Ager haqeeqat accept ker lee, to zindagiyaan burbaad ho jaen gee Paitoo!!!!

yehee to drama hae na?

Kuchh bhee......buss kuchh bhee, mager accept mat karna, vurna existential khatra bhai.

 

[Paitoo]

Ager haqeeqat accept ker lee, to zindagiyaan burbaad ho jaen gee Paitoo!!!!

yehee to drama hae na?

Kuchh bhee......buss kuchh bhee, mager accept mat karna, vurna existential khatra bhai.

Whiskey's promotion to Field Marshal was a clear giveaway that something was not right

 

[Lulldapull]

Whiskey's promotion to Field Marshal was a clear giveaway that something was not right

Mainay doc aur sharma dono ko duss hazar duffa ye samjhaya hae k bhai hamara pyo humreeka hae. We got no say on dis matter whatsoever.

Its also true for all other coloreds no? Ye sub saalay do rupay k Al-Turkiya or Al-Jordan or Al-Egypt or this GCC......sub saalay aik lumber k lund choos chhakkay hain, there's no doubting dis no?

Irans da only one dats gone AWOL.....aur kisy tarha qabu nahi aata.

Aur US/ Israel pagal ho gaey hain to bring it back under their control.

Any which way imaginable.

 

[Lulldapull]

Bro I keep having this dirty suspicion of a deep underground bunker. Housing just 5 F16s and 5 nukes.

Even if we get all the rest.

Even if one of these 5 detonate over any part of India,

Our population density will do the rest.

One last chaddi banyan kamikaze mission.

Pakistan unfortunately got noting to fight for doc........on da record I've said it so many times.

Those 5 F-16's and three nukes will be under US control if India ever gets nuked.

Pakistan don't got a say on jack shiit no?

Saara mulk CIA k qabzay main hae. Totally controlled no? with dat Chinese rundi supplying us junk for weapons.....lol

 

[Vsdoc]

Pakistan unfortunately got noting to fight for doc........on da record I've said it so many times.

Those 5 F-16's and three nukes will be under US control if India ever gets nuked.

Pakistan don't got a say on jack shiit no?

Saara mulk CIA k qabzay main hae. Totally controlled no? with dat Chinese rundi supplying us junk for weapons.....lol

How does it matter to us who's control your nukes are in if and once we get nuked.

 

[Lulldapull]

Yeah, half chink half hispanic. I know his history.

Ye sub lund log hain doc…..if you’d see em in person you’d wish you never did…..

Bicharay do rupay k log….

 

[Lulldapull]

How does it matter to us who's control your nukes are in if and once we get nuked.

US will be to blame ager Kuchh bhee huwa!

Nobody else.

Chain of command reports to Gen Kurrila in Centcom sitting in Manama no?

Abhi Kuchh maheenay pehlay Iran nay tweet nikali thee k Gen Kurrilay, tera office in our hypersonic sights…..do minatt main well wipe yous out laurru and all your pac-3’s and THAAD and Aegis ABM is already defeated!

Aaaaaahahahahaaaaa

 

[Saif]

A West Bengali media outlet has spilled the bin. Indian navy's captain Shivkumar who is working in Indonesia as a defense attache has acknowledged that Indian air force has lost 3 RAFALES, 1 MIG-29 and 1 SU-30 aircraft in Operation Sindoor. Pakistan air force's victory came for its superior strategy. Let me post the video (the video is in Bengali).

 

[Krishna with Flute]

US is not giving any weapons to Pakistan. Europe is not interested in selling weapons to Pakistan nor it is affordable. Chinese weapons proved to be junk. Even a country like Pakistan lost the Interest in Chinese weapons. One can guess the quality of Chinese weapons. Turkey's drones failed. Russia won't sell weapons to Pakistan. Pakistan has big dilemma. Akhir hum bole to bole kya? Kare to kare kya?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

The most amazing thing that happened in this 4 day war is that Pakistani planes didn't airborne to counter Indian planes post first day. Instead of sending them to counter Indian planes, they hid them far away from Indian border. When India pounded 11 of their main are busy and another 11 other strips etc none of the Pakistani plane came to counter Indian attack. They decided to play safe and let India Bomb their airbases and another military installations. Pakistan lost the will to fight post first day. Enemy air defence was totally suppressed.