Krishna with Flute
Senior Member
- Messages
- 5,490
- Likes
- 2,983
- Axis Group

So far as J 10 is concern, MWF with Uttam MK2 with 980 TR module will be be able to detect J 10 from about 170 to 200 k.m of range. MWF with 0.1 Sq meter frontal RCS can be detected by KLJ 7A from a distance of 60 k.m. In case loaded with 6 to 8 missiles both planes can detect each other from a longer distance say above 200 k.m. by MWF and about 120 K.M by J 10. In that scenario, MWF will have atleast 60 to 100 K.M. Advantage of first see an first shoot. There is no competition here. MWF Shall be an out right winner.
If the planes are managed to come closer, say less than 80 k.m. (With load) , J10 can fire PL-15. MWF will have multiple options of firing R 37, R27, I derby, Astra Mk1 and Astra MkII (Not Astra Mk III as it would have been fire when J 10 was 150 to 200 k.m. away) and detected by MWF radar Uttam. Here both the planes will have some chance to fire missile but because of lower RCS and superior EW, chances of survival of MWF are far batter. However, here J 10 will have some chances unlike when they were 120 k.m apart where J10 had no chance.
WVR combat: If both the planes are managed to come closer, to say 25 k.m. distance or bellow, both the planes can fire WVR missile. India does not have its own WVR missile yet but India operates world's top class WVR missiles including ASRAAM, MICA, Python V, and R73. however, both the planes will have some chances but MWF has far superior WVR missile and batter EW to dodge PL -8 (outdated)and PL-10 (Good one). MWF has batter chances of survival.
If both the planes comes further close to a dog fight distance, MWF will prevail over J10 A and B because of superior maneuverability.
However, with J10 C with TVC can change the equation. J10 C with superior maneuverability can prevail over MWF in dog fight. J 10 C will have an edge.
Whatever I have written for J 10 C is by and large true for J 11.
Overall , MWF will dominate by a big margin. J 10 and J11 will have a little chance to survive against MWF. It will be batter for China to not send J10 and J11 to mess against MWF. The only option China will have shall be J20. I shall discuss that later.
If the planes are managed to come closer, say less than 80 k.m. (With load) , J10 can fire PL-15. MWF will have multiple options of firing R 37, R27, I derby, Astra Mk1 and Astra MkII (Not Astra Mk III as it would have been fire when J 10 was 150 to 200 k.m. away) and detected by MWF radar Uttam. Here both the planes will have some chance to fire missile but because of lower RCS and superior EW, chances of survival of MWF are far batter. However, here J 10 will have some chances unlike when they were 120 k.m apart where J10 had no chance.
WVR combat: If both the planes are managed to come closer, to say 25 k.m. distance or bellow, both the planes can fire WVR missile. India does not have its own WVR missile yet but India operates world's top class WVR missiles including ASRAAM, MICA, Python V, and R73. however, both the planes will have some chances but MWF has far superior WVR missile and batter EW to dodge PL -8 (outdated)and PL-10 (Good one). MWF has batter chances of survival.
If both the planes comes further close to a dog fight distance, MWF will prevail over J10 A and B because of superior maneuverability.
However, with J10 C with TVC can change the equation. J10 C with superior maneuverability can prevail over MWF in dog fight. J 10 C will have an edge.
Whatever I have written for J 10 C is by and large true for J 11.
Overall , MWF will dominate by a big margin. J 10 and J11 will have a little chance to survive against MWF. It will be batter for China to not send J10 and J11 to mess against MWF. The only option China will have shall be J20. I shall discuss that later.
Last edited:

