Americas' Tesla recalls almost all US vehicles in largest-ever such move, Concerns over 2.2 million vehicles due to warning lights problems which increase the

[Hamartia Antidote]

My brother in da UK bought a used (two years old) Nissan Leaf a few years ago and it takes twice as long to charge and the battery depletes much faster now. He used to be able to get about 210 miles per charge on it, but now its more like 170 within the last 2 years or so, and declinin. Total ownership is just under 4 years. Gradual battery depletion/ performance is the culprit more than anything else. Honda N-box, Suzuki mini me Hustlers and the Daihastsu Taft are all the craze here in Japan. All under 1000cc and cheap and petrol is cheap here in Japan. Anything under 1000cc engine gets a yellow number plate and you get a discount on your annual emissions/ rego etc. Must be a Japanese gubment/ promotion policy.

Well the Tesla Model 3 started being mass produced in 2017 and while there are stories about Uber drivers seeing huge range decreases (likely from close to 100% high voltage supercharger usage) in general their isn't much chatter from normal consumers (who primarily use low voltage home charging) seeing a drastic decrease.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

carnewschina.com

BYD’s YangWang U8 is a plug-in hybrid SUV that costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD) in China.

 

[Old School]

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

carnewschina.com

America is not yet ready to go full EV. The necessary infrastructure is not yet there. We have to wait. Of course, EVs are the future, but without Tesla.

 

[Bilal9]

I personally regard these EVS as really, really nice golf carts.

You got to admit though - the Tesla Y has excellent seats, the softest leather I have seen, better than Lexus anyday.

I am pulling the trigger on one soon - hopefully.

 

[Bilal9]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

Tesla 3's are selling for mid to high 30's in US, and high 40's well equipped. Any EV will cost that much today, even Chinese ones. New version of Tesla 3 is called "Highland". Zero to 60 MPH in 3 seconds.

Plus Chinese EVs (or even other EVs made in the US with Chinese batteries) will not get you any special rebates. The US govt. is dead set to prevent entry of Chinese EVs in US market. :-(

 

[VCheng]

You got to admit though - the Tesla Y has excellent seats, the softest leather I have seen, better than Lexus anyday.

I am pulling the trigger on one soon - hopefully.

Hey if it serves your needs on the golf cou….. I mean your needs it is great indeed.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

America is not yet ready to go full EV. The necessary infrastructure is not yet there. We have to wait. Of course, EVs are the future, but without Tesla.

The infrastructure isn't there for those who don't have a simple 3-pronged electrical outlet access where they live...

which is only like 20% of the US population. The vast majority of EV owners charge at home making the need for public chargers less of a requirement than it is for other countries. Public charging is critical for cheaper cars which have very very limited ranges or for 200+ mile cars like Tesla when people take long road trips. The Tesla supercharger placement is focused mostly on highway rest stops to handle these cases.

I have a 2023 Tesla Model Y and charge at home.

 

[Bilal9]

Well the Tesla Model 3 started being mass produced in 2017 and while there are stories about Uber drivers seeing huge range decreases (likely from close to 100% high voltage supercharger usage) in general their isn't much chatter from normal consumers (who primarily use low voltage home charging) seeing a drastic decrease.

I have dozens of friends who own Tesla Y's and 3's. They all charge at home. You hop on the freeway in LA westside, over 30% of the cars will be these.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I have dozens of friends who own Tesla Y's and 3's. They all charge at home. You hop on the freeway in LA westside, over 30% of the cars will be these.

My entire workplace is on a Tesla buying craze. That tax writeoff sent everybody all in.

U.S. electric vehicle sales soar into ‘24 - International Council on Clean Transportation

That more than 1 million light-duty electric vehicles were sold in the United States in just the first three quarters of 2023, 58% higher than the same period in 2022, signals a strong positive trend for EV adoption in the country.

theicct.org

Additionally, state-level data shows that several states are far ahead of the national averages shown in Figure 1. California leads the country and EVs were nearly 27% of sales in the state through September 2023; this means that more than one in every four new light-duty vehicles sold were battery electric or plug-in hybrid electric.

Another 12 states—Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Hawaii, Connecticut, Virginia, Vermont, and Arizona—and the District of Columbia had EV sales shares between 10% and 20% through Q3 2023.

Before 2023 there was a noticeable amount driving around the highways but now it's just insane...they are all over the place like multiplying rabbits...except in the average streets of Boston itself where there are noticeably fewer. My guess due to lack of electrical outlet access as people aren't going to be running wires across sidewalks.