Americas' Tesla recalls almost all US vehicles in largest-ever such move, Concerns over 2.2 million vehicles due to warning lights problems which increase the

[Beijingwalker]

Source : https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/02/02/tesla-recalls-almost-all-us-vehicles-in-largest-ever-such-move/

Tesla recalls almost all US vehicles in largest-ever such move​

Concerns over 2.2 million vehicles due to warning lights problems which increase the risk of crashes​

Tesla is recalling 2.2 million vehicles in the US. Photograph: Getty Images

Fri Feb 2 2024 - 11:37
Tesla is recalling 2.2 million vehicles, or nearly all of its electric vehicles in the US, due to incorrect font sizes on warning lights, which increases the risk of a crash, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said on Friday.

This is more than the 2.03 million vehicles Tesla recalled in the US two months ago, its biggest-ever such move at the time, to install new safeguards in its Autopilot advanced driver-assistance system.

Tesla has been under the NHTSA's scanner for its autonomous driving aid that is intended to enable cars to steer, accelerate and brake automatically within their lane.

The latest recall includes vehicles across Tesla's various models, including the Model S, Model X, 2017-2023 Model 3, Model Y, and 2024 Cybertruck vehicles, the NHTSA said.

"Warning lights with a smaller font size can make critical safety information on the instrument panel difficult to read, increasing the risk of a crash," the NHTSA said.

Tesla began releasing an over-the-air software update on January 23rd, free of charge, to fix the issue, the regulator said.

The software update will increase the font size of the visual warning indicators for the brake, park and antilock brake system (ABS).

A Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard requires warning indicators for vehicles equipped with hydraulic brakes to be at least 3.2 millimeters, or an eighth of an inch, high.

The standard also requires contrasting colors for the written, visual warning and the background, with one of them being red.

Tesla's Cybertruck started receiving a software update to fix the issue for the units in production, the report added.

The recall is also the first for the new electric pickup truck model that Tesla started handing over to customers last November.

The Austin, Texas-based automaker’s stores and service centers will be notified after January 31st and owners will get notification letters through mail, the report said. – Reuters

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

LOL!

They say the font size in images for some warning lights is too small. Pushing over-the-air software update to increase size.

old on left with small fonts..new on right with easier to read ones.


No big deal.

 

[Lulldapull]

All this EV drama is just another fad......it'll all fade away down da road, just like da Toyota Prius has drifted into obscurity today. Poor commercial people get so excited on commercial propaganda and then get caught out with their pants down.....lol.......buss kuchh bhee......Here in Japan people hate EV's!

 

[VCheng]

All this EV drama is just another fad......it'll all fade away down da road, just like da Toyota Prius has drifted into obscurity today. Poor commercial people get so excited on commercial propaganda and then get caught out with their pants down.....lol.......buss kuchh bhee......Here in Japan people hate EV's!

I personally regard these EVS as really, really nice golf carts.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

All this EV drama is just another fad......it'll all fade away down da road, just like da Toyota Prius has drifted into obscurity today. Poor commercial people get so excited on commercial propaganda and then get caught out with their pants down.....lol.......buss kuchh bhee......Here in Japan people hate EV's!

It's here whether we like it or not. Already around 25% of car sales in China are EVs and in some European countries it is even higher. That loss of combustion engine marketshare is either going to be made up by higher prices for the rest of us (due to efficiencies of scale declining) or a switch to EVs.

25% of New Car Sales in China Were 100% Electric in 2023! - CleanTechnica

Plugin vehicles in China once again ended the year with a record month, growing by 46% year over year (YoY) in the last month of the year to a record 980,000 units. Interestingly, full electric vehicles (BEVs) grew at a slower pace, growing just 31% to 618,000 units. They were ... [continued]

cleantechnica.com

 

[Lulldapull]

It's here whether we like it or not. Already around 25% of car sales in China are EVs and in some European countries it is even higher. That loss of combustion engine marketshare is either going to be made up by higher prices for the rest of us (due to efficiencies of scale declining) or a switch to EVs.

25% of New Car Sales in China Were 100% Electric in 2023! - CleanTechnica

Plugin vehicles in China once again ended the year with a record month, growing by 46% year over year (YoY) in the last month of the year to a record 980,000 units. Interestingly, full electric vehicles (BEVs) grew at a slower pace, growing just 31% to 618,000 units. They were ... [continued]

cleantechnica.com

Bro here in Japan, EV's are just regarded as anathema. I don't know what the issue is but people refuse to buy em. Very strange.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Bro here in Japan, EV's are just regarded as anathema. I don't know what the issue is but people refuse to buy em. Very strange.

It seems to me those boxy little Wuling-mini type Kei cars have most of the sales.

Honda Kei car.

Tiny boxy cars popular in China and Japan.

Chinese Wuling Mini

 

[Lulldapull]

It seems to me those boxy little Wuling-mini type Kei cars have most of the sales.

These little EV's start having battery issue few years down da road. Maintenance gets expensive and the charging mileage declines exponentially with age. Replacing da battery is totally not economically feasible.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

These little EV's start having battery issue few years down da road. Maintenance gets expensive and the charging mileage declines exponentially with age. Replacing da battery is totally not economically feasible.

Maybe they are using lead-acid batteries to keep costs down. Those things aren't great for high usage.

 

[Lulldapull]

Maybe they are using lead-acid batteries to keep costs down.

My brother in da UK bought a used (two years old) Nissan Leaf a few years ago and it takes twice as long to charge and the battery depletes much faster now. He used to be able to get about 210 miles per charge on it, but now its more like 170 within the last 2 years or so, and declinin. Total ownership is just under 4 years. Gradual battery depletion/ performance is the culprit more than anything else. Honda N-box, Suzuki mini me Hustlers and the Daihastsu Taft are all the craze here in Japan. All under 1000cc and cheap and petrol is cheap here in Japan. Anything under 1000cc engine gets a yellow number plate and you get a discount on your annual emissions/ rego etc. Must be a Japanese gubment/ promotion policy.

 

[Old School]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

 

[Lulldapull]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

After 4-5 years owning a petrol/ diesel car here in Japan the emissions testing/ compliance here gets prohibitive because of catalytic converter declining in NOX performance. Hundreds of thousands of used Japanese vehicles then must be exchanged at the dealerships for newer vehicles and all these Japanese vehicles get reconditioned and sold all over the world in South Asia and Africa. You can keep your older vehicle but then you get railroaded with an emissions tax which increases with the vehicles age. What a badmash monopoly no?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

My brother in da UK bought a used (two years old) Nissan Leaf a few years ago and it takes twice as long to charge and the battery depletes much faster now. He used to be able to get about 210 miles per charge on it, but now its more like 170 within the last 2 years or so, and declinin. Total ownership is just under 4 years. Gradual battery depletion/ performance is the culprit more than anything else. Honda N-box, Suzuki mini me Hustlers and the Daihastsu Taft are all the craze here in Japan. All under 1000cc and cheap and petrol is cheap here in Japan. Anything under 1000cc engine gets a yellow number plate and you get a discount on your annual emissions/ rego etc. Must be a Japanese gubment/ promotion policy.

Well the Tesla Model 3 started being mass produced in 2017 and while there are stories about Uber drivers seeing huge range decreases (likely from close to 100% high voltage supercharger usage) in general their isn't much chatter from normal consumers (who primarily use low voltage home charging) seeing a drastic decrease.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

carnewschina.com

BYD’s YangWang U8 is a plug-in hybrid SUV that costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD) in China.

 

[Old School]

He wanted to bring back two of the $150,000 BYD YangWang U8s...that's what expensive toys are.

BYD's YangWang U8 received 4,000 orders in China

Pre-sales started in September. BYD YangWang U8 costs 1,089,000 yuan (150,000 USD).

carnewschina.com

America is not yet ready to go full EV. The necessary infrastructure is not yet there. We have to wait. Of course, EVs are the future, but without Tesla.

 

[Bilal9]

I personally regard these EVS as really, really nice golf carts.

You got to admit though - the Tesla Y has excellent seats, the softest leather I have seen, better than Lexus anyday.

I am pulling the trigger on one soon - hopefully.

 

[Bilal9]

Tesla is an expensive toy. I'll buy a Chinese EV once it accesses the US market. The California governor, Newsom, went to China and brought back two Chinese EVs.

Tesla 3's are selling for mid to high 30's in US, and high 40's well equipped. Any EV will cost that much today, even Chinese ones. New version of Tesla 3 is called "Highland". Zero to 60 MPH in 3 seconds.

Plus Chinese EVs (or even other EVs made in the US with Chinese batteries) will not get you any special rebates. The US govt. is dead set to prevent entry of Chinese EVs in US market. :-(

 

[VCheng]

You got to admit though - the Tesla Y has excellent seats, the softest leather I have seen, better than Lexus anyday.

I am pulling the trigger on one soon - hopefully.

Hey if it serves your needs on the golf cou….. I mean your needs it is great indeed.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

America is not yet ready to go full EV. The necessary infrastructure is not yet there. We have to wait. Of course, EVs are the future, but without Tesla.

The infrastructure isn't there for those who don't have a simple 3-pronged electrical outlet access where they live...

which is only like 20% of the US population. The vast majority of EV owners charge at home making the need for public chargers less of a requirement than it is for other countries. Public charging is critical for cheaper cars which have very very limited ranges or for 200+ mile cars like Tesla when people take long road trips. The Tesla supercharger placement is focused mostly on highway rest stops to handle these cases.

I have a 2023 Tesla Model Y and charge at home.

 

[Bilal9]

Well the Tesla Model 3 started being mass produced in 2017 and while there are stories about Uber drivers seeing huge range decreases (likely from close to 100% high voltage supercharger usage) in general their isn't much chatter from normal consumers (who primarily use low voltage home charging) seeing a drastic decrease.

I have dozens of friends who own Tesla Y's and 3's. They all charge at home. You hop on the freeway in LA westside, over 30% of the cars will be these.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I have dozens of friends who own Tesla Y's and 3's. They all charge at home. You hop on the freeway in LA westside, over 30% of the cars will be these.

My entire workplace is on a Tesla buying craze. That tax writeoff sent everybody all in.

U.S. electric vehicle sales soar into ‘24 - International Council on Clean Transportation

That more than 1 million light-duty electric vehicles were sold in the United States in just the first three quarters of 2023, 58% higher than the same period in 2022, signals a strong positive trend for EV adoption in the country.

theicct.org

Additionally, state-level data shows that several states are far ahead of the national averages shown in Figure 1. California leads the country and EVs were nearly 27% of sales in the state through September 2023; this means that more than one in every four new light-duty vehicles sold were battery electric or plug-in hybrid electric.

Another 12 states—Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Nevada, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, Hawaii, Connecticut, Virginia, Vermont, and Arizona—and the District of Columbia had EV sales shares between 10% and 20% through Q3 2023.

Before 2023 there was a noticeable amount driving around the highways but now it's just insane...they are all over the place like multiplying rabbits...except in the average streets of Boston itself where there are noticeably fewer. My guess due to lack of electrical outlet access as people aren't going to be running wires across sidewalks.