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This is 2024. Get rid of the caste mindset.
im just taking the piss, yaar.

I thought this forum allowed non politically correct thought to be aired freely, without fear of mod chewtiapa and reprisal.

is forum pe 'behind closed doors' waali baatein hoti hain.

high level skorti cabinet meeting type.
 
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im just taking the piss, yaar.

I thought this forum allowed non politically correct thought to be aired freely, without fear of mod chewtiapa and reprisal.

is forum pe 'behind closed doors' waali baatein hoti hain.

high level skorti cabinet meeting type.

Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.
 
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Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.

The Caste and Varna system is a key plinth of Hinduism dogun bhai.

Why should any Hindu "get over it"?

You (Muslims) have your faith and beliefs and rules.

Hindus have theirs.
 
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The Caste and Varna system is a key plinth of Hinduism dogun bhai.

Why should any Hindu "get over it"?

You (Muslims) have your faith and beliefs and rules.

Hindus have theirs.

But seeing others as a 'lower form'... are you fine with that? That's all I question.
 
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Free speech isn't the issue here, this forum allows it.

I asked you, in particular, to get over the caste system and move into the 21st century.
I AM over it

never been a consideration for me, ever, so never been under the influence of it either

sadly, but, it remains a consideration for politicians.. and its almost always the LEFT who are trying to cash in on it, that's how they operate, globally.

caste, varna etc max aapko shaadion ki ceremonies, new baby ka 'naamkaran' (naming) etc me nazar aayega.

as a Cypriot in Algeria (wtf?) .. we don't expect you to have a grasp on the whole scene here.

India is NOT EASY to understand.
 
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But seeing others as a 'lower form'... are you fine with that? That's all I question.

Well I am a Zoroastrian. From an ancient Aryan faith. We have (had) a very similar structure in Persian society.

The Athoran (Athrvan) were the hereditary line of priesthood (the Dasturs and Mobeds, descendants of the ancient Magii).

The other classes were similar and in fact even more specialized than the Hindus. Artisans, traders, farmers, etc.

Unlike Hindus, there was no specialist warrior caste/class, as Persian Zoroastrian society in size was a lot smaller, a ways more militaristic and expeditionary, cross continent, and everyone fought. Even our women. Including our monarchy and nobility and (especially) the priests.

When we came to India, over the next 500-600 years (22-28 generations) the other classes, for ease and the simple fact that there were too few of us remaining for so many classes, were all coalesced into a single class of Behdin (the Faithful). These are the commoners.

The Athrvan class with its very strict bloodline rules, and hereditary training of priests by word of mouth from father to son, was left untouched.

There was an additional class that came about, that of the pall bearers. The Khandias. Who carry the dead body into the Dakhmas (Towers of Silence). No one else is allowed beyond its gates. They are the untouchables, so to speak. They marry within themselves. And a whole lot of other rules.

These are the descendants of the children of Persian men and Indian women unions when we first landed here. Absorbed by a one-time decree and Navjote (investiture) ceremony into the faith.

Centuries later in Bombay in the early 19th century a similar ceremony was done to mass formalize children of Parsi seths and their non Parsi concubines.

Cheers, Doc
 
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fascinating stuff, doc.

zyada logon ko idea nahi hai, about the inner workings of Parsi society.. good stuff.
 
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fascinating stuff, doc.

zyada logon ko idea nahi hai, about the inner workings of Parsi society.. good stuff.

We prefer to keep it that way. Private.
 
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