[🇵🇰] Will Pakistan ever function as a secular state?

[Mustafa.Iq]

You should go to Saudi Arabia, it's more muslim. Because the guy who used to drink Whiskey definitely didn't intend to create an extremist nation full of people like you. Saudi Arabia is best suited for you, but you'll be seen as racially inferior there.

You have proof Quaid-e-Azam drank alcohol? Doesn't matter what Mr. Jinnah wanted anyways. He's dead now.
As a Muslim I follow what Islam says.

 

[MuHayMin]

oh bhai, some of us here actually know Pakistan's history rather well. We went to good schools in Karachi and went on out west 30 years ago and have made millions of dollars......No issue there at all. Our problem is that we couldn't bring prosperity to our country overall. This is our failure! We followed the bad UK class based/ elitist system and we've hurt our nation in doing so.

Irani's did away with a class based aristocratic order 45 years ago now. Their engineers that I've worked with overseas are world class! Same same with the Chinese engineers. Both nations highly capable.

We are not total idiots......we just need good leadership. Problem with us is we don't believe in ourselves bhai. The Iranis, Chinese and the Russians do!......already the BRICS controls 33% of the world GDP. The G-7 the other 27%.......Things are changing.....

You know a little too much about iran 🤔

 

[Lulldapull]

Hey why don't you go to Saudi Arabia?

oh bhai you living in dubai you telling Iqbal bhai to go to sawdi?.......come on bro?

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

You should go to Saudi Arabia, it's more muslim. Because the guy who used to drink Whiskey definitely didn't intend to create an extremist nation full of people like you. Saudi Arabia is best suited for you, but you'll be seen as racially inferior there. That's the one setback there.

By the way I am not Saudi citizen, nor do I speak Arabic. Don't talk nonsense, lol.

 

[MuHayMin]

You have proof Quaid-e-Azam drank alcohol? Doesn't matter what Mr. Jinnah wanted anyways. He's dead now.
As a Muslim I follow what Islam says.

Do you know alcohol was quite common in the Muslim World? Either way keep your mindset out of politics because that's why we're so bad of a nation. People like you who live in the west but want a state based on values you know nothing about. That's hypocrisy!

 

[MuHayMin]

By the way I am not Saudi citizen, nor do I speak Arabic. Don't talk nonsense, lol.

No your worse, your like a desert Arab. Imagine living in the west and having the views you do.

 

[MuHayMin]

oh bhai you living in dubai you telling Iqbal bhai to go to sawdi?.......come on bro?

Your point is?

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

Do you know alcohol was quite common in the Muslim World? Either way keep your mindset out of politics because that's why we're so bad of a nation. People like you who live in the west but want a state based on values you know nothing about. That's hypocrisy!

Hypocrisy? Muslims can live anywhere in the world. Many go to the West for higher education and economic reasons.

I see no hypocrisy. If I was calling for Islamic laws in Canada, then yes that would be hypocrisy. But I am calling for Islamic laws in Pakistan.

That is right.

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

No your worse, your like a desert Arab

I am a Pakistani, not an Arab. Nice try though, for a pea-sized brain such as yours.

 

[MuHayMin]

Hypocrisy? Muslims can live anywhere in the world. Many go to the West for higher education and economic reasons.

I see no hypocrisy. If I was calling for Islamic laws in Canada, then yes that would be hypocrisy. But I am calling for Islamic laws in Pakistan.

That is right.

You have no right to call for laws in my country

 

[Mustafa.Iq]

You have no right to call for laws in my country

I am also a Pakistani citizen. How are you more Pakistani than me? I am a Pakistani citizen, and I too have a right to have a say in it.

And who the hell are you to tell me what Pakistan should be or not should be? I am a Pakistani citizen and I have a right to form an opinion and have a right to have a say in it.

 

[Lulldapull]

You know a little too much about iran 🤔

I used to work 10 years down unda. When the China driven resource projects started in Australia, thousands of Irani skilled migrants came in on 457 visas. So we saw them running the show down unda. They would just run circles around pendu Aussies. Irani's got the $400k per year contract jobs. The Aussies were on half that remuneration, if lucky. You just had to be there to see it bhai. No bullshit.

Some of us you know, been around.

 

[MuHayMin]

I am a Pakistani, not an Arab. Nice try though, for a pea-sized brain such as yours.

Lol, whatever

 

[MuHayMin]

I used to work 10 years down unda. When the China driven resource projects started in Australia, thousands of Irani skilled migrants came in on 457 visas. So we saw them running the show down unda. They would just run circles around pendu Aussies. Irani's got the $400k per year contract jobs. The Aussies were on half that remuneration, if lucky. You just had to be there to see it bhai. No bullshit.

Some of us you know, been around.

Do you ever stop talking about Iranians, jeez

 

[MuHayMin]

I am also a Pakistani citizen. How are you more Pakistani than me? I am a Pakistani citizen, and I too have a right to have a say in it.

And who the hell are you to tell me what Pakistan should be or not should be? I am a Pakistani citizen and I have a right to form an opinion and have a right to have a say in it.

You have a right to it, but don't force it upon others or change Jinnahs speeches for you agenda