[🇮🇷] Iran has a new president and new hope

[Lulldapull]

Gents our region going thru huge turmoil. My gut feel is this pezeshkian has been brought in as a soothe sayer and prevent total chaos in the wider region.

The entire Muslim world is on the cusp of total collapse!

Pata ne kya banay ga hamari qaumon da. Unbelievable what’s going on in our region these days.

One thing is for sure……the west is after a soft velvet hand regime change in Iran without huge catastrophe. This the west has been working on for decades as a project.

If Iran falls, it will expose the soft Russian underbelly for jihadist exploitation and it will totally open up Xinjiang for covert infiltration.

It would be a huge setback for both Russia and China.

Make no mistake……seeing Iran fall would suck the remaining mojo we got left. Hamari phatt jaey gee if Iran falls to the west. We will be like oh paancho what da hell do we do now. We’re goin be surrounded on two sides by the US again.

 

[Old School]

No Sir

They couldn’t find their own President for days before seeking help from Turkey. Turkey found it within 2-3 hours, it explains the false perception that Iran is light years ahead of everyone else.

Iran is an important nation because it indirectly controls the Shia community beyond the borders of Sunni-majority Muslim countries. The Shia populations in Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon heed Iran and can create turmoil within their own countries at Iran's behest. This influence was granted due to the caliphate-like system they established in 1979. If not a caliphate, it certainly presents an alternative to Western democracy and people buy anti-west system of governance.

Similar to other Islamic countries, Iran too has a secular community, most of them are living abroad and Muslim for name-sake but it does not change the perception of hardline Iran who in reality is a victim of western terror. It is unbelievable that most of their top scientists are killed by Israelis/West, many of their government officials and even Generals are killed by the west and yet Iran couldn’t do much besides random fires for publicity stunt.

Do you really believe that they could not find their president ? You can check here in this forum timeline that Western sources declared him dead 8 hours before Irani government did. I posted it within a very short time of the “crash’. We are in a defense forum. We can do little better than copy paste from third degree newspapers. I know it is asking too much.

 

[Lulldapull]

Saudi Arabia is ahead of Iran in many areas.

I disagree with you. How is being secular supposed to be civilized.

Secular societies or irreligious societies have the most homicides, rapes, suicides, drug abuse.

So you are wrong there.

Iqbal bhai Irani now helping Sawdi get away from da US. Both are in a working relationship now and it is giving panic attacks to da west and the Zionists.

This is why the west wants regime change in Iran right away.

 

[Aryobarzan]

At the Pakistani military intelligence school, all officers must learn the difference between a coup and a revolution and history in depth in their curriculum. They are not the same regular forum people (whose guns are bigger !) or journalists you have seen in the last 15-20 years.
I have never seen any religious Iranian outside Iran in the last 40 years in Europe, America, and elsewhere. There are fake Iranian asylum seekers ( Afghani), of course.
I also have to correct you because Iran never had an Islamic revolution in 1979 in the real sense. Technically, it was a coup in which communists were also involved. Later, Khomenei killed his communist partners and hijacked the power on behalf of the mollahs. A coup never becomes a revolution by just claiming it. Real revolutions have some different characteristics. @Aryobarzan can confirm it.

Good day. Yes you are 100% correct about the events of 1979..I had just arrived back in Iran 1.5 years from Canada and working in maintaining some of the US supplied equipments for the military.I was not political but had a keen eye to observe the events ...Iranian "revolution" or "uprising" indeed started by young and highly educated and left leaning people against Shah's excessive reliance on the US...religious guys came in late but they brought more crowds out on the streets and hijacked the "uprising" from other groups..Like a cancer that spreads they eliminated communists first and then the nationalists were eliminated .The number of executions in those days will make Stalin to look like a nice guy.....The executions and the imposition of harsh Islamic system on a "western leaning" population turned the uprising from a happy event into a dark cloud over the nation...They also arranged for a quick "engineered" referandom and the only Question allowed was.."do you want Islamic Republic or do U want shah"..no one knew what "Islamic Republic" is but they all knew they do not want Shah.. so here we go the "Revolution" was stolen from Iranian people and this dark Islamic system came to be.
Note: The Shah military was able to put down the uprising in 3 days but shah did not want the bloodshed (he had cancer by then).Military was ordered to stand down and out of the streets ..many Iranians now scold shah for so easily giving up the nation to these mullahs who knew nothing about running a country . Interesting these days many many mullahs in Iran also say we should never have attempted to take over the government because by mixing religion and politics we managed to destroy both....Future of Iran will have no mullah in it...lol I am sure of that.

 

[Malang]

Do you really believe that they could not find their president ? You can check here in this forum timeline that Western sources declared him dead 8 hours before Irani government did. I posted it within a very short time of the “crash’. We are in a defense forum. We can do little better than copy paste from third degree newspapers. I know it is asking too much.

Sir when the news is developing, many news channels speculate and try to go ahead of the facts to claim “reported first” tag. When the bomb blasts used to happen in Pakistan every week, sometimes the televisions used to report 150 people died and later on review the number to 70 people died because they had overestimated the number of deaths.

I was closely monitoring the incident of the Shaheed ex-President. The timeline was as follows

Iran reports they lost contact with the helicopter accompanying the Iranian president.

Speculation begins with some Iranian and western sources claim he is likely to be dead

Iran reports that they found the helicopter

Reports denied

West reports that he is likely to be dead

Iran at one stage claims that they found the helicopter and the president is probably hiding in the caves

Reports denied

Time passes and they finally seek help from Turkey to locate the helicopter

Helicopter found > confirmed death

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

Saudi Arabia is not a banana republic. They are catching up. They are also light years ahead of other begging countries who work there or always ask for money.
Religious people always live in denial, in a parallel universe. There is no point in talking about religious people. Let them all go to paradise in the afterlife.

I've seen some religious people who are very well educated. Especially in Saudi Arabia.

But I believe Pakistan needs a revolution like the Meiji period in Japan. The Nationalists in Pakistan need to get up and fix our country.

 

[Malang]

I've seen some religious people who are very well educated. Especially in Saudi Arabia.

But I believe Pakistan needs a revolution like the Meiji period in Japan. The Nationalists in Pakistan need to get up and fix our country.

Sir the problem with Pakistan is a clueless vision. Even the founders of Pakistan did not know what they are aiming for. The nation is born and then its left to the mercy of powerful elite because the nation lacks vision and will not progress unless we have one.

We need to build our own identity, when someone says Pakistan he must know who we are and not associate us with wanna be Arabs, Indians, Afghans etc.

 

[Deleted due to Error (Muji Iqbal)]

Sir the problem with Pakistan is a clueless vision. Even the founders of Pakistan did not know what they are aiming for. The nation is born and then its left to the mercy of powerful elite because the nation lacks vision and will not progress unless we have one.

We need to build our own identity, when someone says Pakistan he must know who we are and not associate us with wanna be Arabs, Indians, Afghans etc.

We are South Asian Muslims of the North West who wanted independence from British Empire. What else? Yes those wannabe Arabs are idiots too.
We are Muslims and Pakistanis and we are proud of that.