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Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality.
 

Made In China, Failed In Pakistan: From Missiles, Radars To Air Defence System, How Operation Sindoor Exposed Dragon-Backed Weapons​

Written By Tarique Anwar|Last Updated: May 19, 2025, 09:28 PM IST|Source: Bureau

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Made In China, Failed In Pakistan: From Missiles, Radars To Air Defence System, How Operation Sindoor Exposed Dragon-Backed Weapons

Wreckage of Chinese-made Pakistani defence displayed at an official military briefing
New Delhi: Operation Sindoor not only marked a decisive military and strategic victory for India but also exposed vulnerabilities within Pakistan’s armed forces, particularly linked to their heavy reliance on Chinese-supplied military hardware. This conflict, according to reports, served as a real-world test for Chinese defense technology against a combination of Indian and Western platforms that revealed a pattern of system failures and underperformance.


With nearly 82% of Pakistan’s defense imports originating from China, the operation put these systems to the test under intense combat conditions. Indian forces successfully targeted key Pakistani military and terror infrastructure, overcoming or bypassing Chinese-origin air defense systems such as the HQ-9 – which failed to intercept Indian missile strikes, including those delivered BrahMos missiles system.



Ranging from PL-15 air-to-air missiles to J-10C fighter jets and naval frigates, other Chinese-supplied systems were also reported to have malfunctioned or underperformed during the conflict. It left Pakistani defenses compromised and unable to effectively respond to India’s offensive.

The operational setbacks experienced by these Chinese weapons have had broader repercussions beyond the immediate battlefield. The inability of these systems to deliver under combat conditions has impacted China’s reputation as a global arms exporter and reinforced longstanding concerns about the quality and reliability of Chinese military equipment.

Analysts said these failures validate earlier skepticism regarding Chinese defense technology and may accelerate the decline in China’s arms exports, which had already been shrinking due to quality issues. The credibility gap exposed by ‘Operation Sindoor’ also provides a strategic opening for other arms manufacturers, including India, to emphasise their own combat-proven reliability.

Observations, Incidents of Failure

Air Defense Systems (HQ-9, HQ-16/LY-80): The reports indicate the complete failure of Pakistan’s Chinese-made air defense systems to intercept Indian aircraft or missiles effectively. Indian forces successfully bypassed and jammed Pakistani air defense units, including those protecting important military installations. Questions have been raised about these systems’ detection and response capabilities – particularly against advanced Indian and Western technology.

Some Chinese nationals too reportedly criticised the Pakistani operators on social media, attributing failures to inadequate training and operational inefficiencies.

Air-to-Air Missiles (PL-15): Marketed as a rival to Western systems like the American AIM-120D, the Chinese PL-15 beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile reportedly failed to hit targets or malfunctioned mid-flight. Indian military officials displayed recovered fragments of a PL-15 missile in Hoshiarpur that had missed its target, casting doubt on its combat effectiveness.

While some pro-Chinese media sources attempted to claim PL-15 successes, these claims lacked independent verification and were largely dismissed as propaganda.

CM-400AKG Air-to-Surface Missile: The CM-400AKG air-to-surface missile, touted as a “carrier killer”, was detected early by Indian surveillance systems such as Netra and AWACS. Despite its speed, it lacks stealth features and terminal maneuverability – making it vulnerable to spoofing and jamming.

Fighter Jets (J-10C, JF-17): Pakistan deployed Chinese-made J-10C and JF-17 Block III fighter jets equipped with PL-15 missiles during the operation. However, these jets reportedly failed to significantly impede or deter Indian airstrikes.

Claims by Pakistani and Chinese sources, cited in media reports, that J-10C aircraft downed multiple Indian jets, including Rafales, remain unverified with no debris or evidence presented. Analysts generally regarded the Chinese jets’ performance against Indian aircraft – a mix of Russian and Western platforms – as ineffective.

Radar Systems: An Indian Air Force strike reportedly destroyed a Chinese-supplied YLC-8E anti-stealth radar at the Chunian Air Base in Punjab – exposing further vulnerabilities in China’s air defense offerings to Pakistan.

AR-1 Guided Missile (Deployed via Wing Loong-II Drones): The AR-1 is a Chinese laser-guided air-to-surface missile typically deployed from unmanned aerial vehicles like the Wing Loong-II drone.

Pakistan utilised these drones during the conflict, but Indian air defenses successfully intercepted or neutralised AR-1 missiles before they could hit targets. The missile’s failure highlights deficiencies against well-established Indian defense networks.

Chinese-Origin Drones: Pakistan employed various Chinese-origin drones for reconnaissance and offensive roles during the conflict. Indian forces intercepted and neutralised several drones, with wreckage displayed at official briefings.

These interceptions raise questions about the drones’ stealth capabilities and operational effectiveness in contested airspace.

Reliability and Quality Concerns

The conflict exposed fundamental vulnerabilities in the reliability and combat effectiveness of Chinese military technology despite Beijing’s aggressive marketing as a credible alternative to Western and Russian arms suppliers. Reports indicate frequent defects in critical components, poor quality control and inadequate after-sales support.

Past instances of malfunctioning Chinese military equipment sold to other countries – including faulty frigates for the Pakistan Navy and issues with fighter jets in Nigeria and Myanmar – point to a recurring pattern of quality problems.

Netizens’ Reactions

Across social media, netizens from China and other regions displayed mixed reactions. Some blamed Pakistani operational shortcomings rather than the hardware itself, while others expressed frustration over the exposed failures.

The debate highlighted how the weapons’ poor performance has become a sensitive topic, with some attempts to spin or downplay the deficiencies.

Meanwhile, Indian observers and analysts have pointed to the conflict as a proof point for India’s growing defense manufacturing capabilities and the reliability of its own systems.
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How Op Sindoor exposed Pakistan air defence, Chinese armaments​

The operation serves a warning to nations relying on Chinese military hardware as India's advanced capabilities continue to reshape the regional power balance​




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Pakistan's military vehicles carrying missiles Nasr (R) and Babur (L) take part in the military parade to mark Pakistan's National Day in Islamabad on March 25, 2021. (Photo by Aamir Qureshi / AFP)

Pradip R. Sagar
Pradip R. Sagar
UPDATED: Jun 10, 2025 18:37 IST
Edited By: Ashish Mukherjee

In Short​

  • India's Operation Sindoor exposed major flaws in Pakistan's air defence systems.
  • Pakistani HQ-9 and HQ-16 missiles failed against India's BrahMos and SCALP missiles.
  • Chinese analysts criticised Pakistan's poor training and system integration.
India’s decisive strategic and operational triumph in Operation Sindoor has laid bare critical weaknesses in Pakistan’s military, which is heavily reliant on Chinese-supplied technology. A month after the conflict, which ended with Pakistan seeking a ceasefire within four days, a critical review of the operation has highlighted the inadequacy of Pakistan’s air defence systems, particularly the Chinese-made HQ-9 and HQ-16, against India’s advanced missile technology and electronic warfare capabilities.

Military observers claim Pakistan’s $3 million-per-unit HQ-9 surface-to-air missile system, touted as a cornerstone of its air defence, failed miserably to detect or intercept India’s BrahMos and SCALP missiles.

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Chinese defence analysts and social media lambasted Pakistani personnel as “mute spectators”, pointing to operational inefficiencies and lack of skill as key contributors to the debacle.

Analysis also established that Indian forces, leveraging superior missile technology, satellite intelligence and electronic warfare, penetrated Pakistan’s defences with ease, targeting key military installations. Indian loitering munitions humiliated Pakistan’s air defence network by destroying several HQ-9 batteries, exacerbating losses of fighter jets, surveillance aircraft, drones and radar sites


On May 15, Air Vice Marshal Aurangzeb Ahmed of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) admitted that the BrahMos missile’s unpredictable trajectory rendered it nearly impossible to intercept, a statement echoed by Chinese Communist Party outlets. The HQ-9’s failure stemmed from technical limitations, poor integration into Pakistan’s defence network and inadequate operator training.

Chinese analysts have criticised Pakistan's deployment of the HQ-9 air defence system, citing inadequate training, poor network integration, and lack of real-time coordination as key factors in its failure. The HQ-9's design, influenced by older Russian systems like the S-300, has raised concerns about its reliability against modern, high-speed missiles.

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Despite upgrades, the system underperformed against Indian missile technology, sparking doubts about Chinese defence exports' credibility and the HQ-9's effectiveness in high-intensity conflicts.

This critique highlights the challenges of deploying advanced defence systems, particularly when training and integration are inadequate. The HQ-9's performance has implications for China's defence export reputation and the system's viability in modern warfare scenarios.

The HQ-9B, with a reduced engagement range of 250-300 km, and the truck-mounted HQ-16, with limited mobility, proved ill-equipped to counter supersonic, low-flying missiles like the BrahMos. These shortcomings echo past failures, including India’s unopposed 2019 Balakot airstrike and a 2022 incident where a BrahMos missile, accidentally fired by India, penetrated deep into Pakistani territory undetected.

Operation Sindoor also saw India’s air defence systems and electronic warfare capabilities neutralise Pakistan’s drone fleet, crippling its offensive and surveillance operations. In response, Pakistan is planning to bolster its drone arsenal with Chinese Wing Loong series combat drones, aiming to establish a dedicated drone brigade.

Stung by the defeat, Pakistan is aggressively pursuing military modernisation, doubling down on Chinese and Turkish technology while diversifying with a $9 billion arms deal with Russia. The proposed Russian package includes tanks, air defence systems, warships, Mi-26T2 combat helicopters, and possibly MiG-35 fighter jets.

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Pakistan is also set to acquire China’s HQ-19 ballistic missile defence system and 40 J-35A stealth fighters starting 2026, alongside efforts to improve operator training and coordination to address multi-layered threats.

The HQ-9’s dismal performance has not only exposed Pakistan’s operational deficiencies but also dented China’s reputation as a reliable arms exporter. Modelled partly on Russia’s S-300, the HQ-9 and its variants have been questioned for their effectiveness against modern, high-speed, precision-guided missiles, raising doubts about their reliability in high-intensity conflicts.

India’s dominance in Operation Sindoor underscores its technological and strategic edge even as Pakistan scrambles to rebuild its shattered defences. The conflict serves as a warning to nations relying on Chinese military hardware as India’s advanced capabilities continue to reshape the regional power balance.

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Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality.


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