World Chinese planned, funded and executed international Chinese humiliation. Backfiring of Proxy war with India through Pakistan.

[Lulldapull]

Countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan cannot do without cheap Chinese weapons. Western equipment are expensive. As for reliability, Chinese weapons are no less reliable than its Russian counterparts. India procures Russian weapons profusely.

Saif bhai we need to talk to da Iranis cuz theys making cheap asymmetric weapons which actually work no?

Russian buying Irani weapons Saif bhai........

Aik bhee China weapon nahi khareeda Russia nay!

Why?

 

[Saif]

So far as cheap weapons are concerned, I can agree with you, but putting Chinese and Russian weapons same category is absolutely foolish. We saw the performance of HQ 9, HQ 16 and S400 in this conflict where the S400 emerged as a conclusive winner shooting down Pakistani AWA&C 315 kilometres away. HQ 9 could not intercept anything including low cost drones and got destroyed in drone strike. so your comparison is of without any basis. Now there are real life examples to prove that.

There is an explosion in inquiries of Indian weapons because of batter than western quality at Chinese price.

We are boosting the range and speed of Brahmos from 2.8 mach to 4.5 mach. We have atleast one dozen hypersonic missiles programs almost all in final stage of complications. Half of them are purely scramjet based cruise missiles. We are undisputed king of hypersonic missiles technology.

We are the only country who is working on hypersonic interceptor
It will be operational within next 2 years.

You guys had a lot to gain from Indian friendship but you choose the Path of Pakistan and as a result will have the future of Pakistan.

I could compare Russian weapons with their Chinese counterparts for the fact that Bangladesh armed forces use weapons made both in China and Russia. We use Russian aircraft like MIG-29, YAK-130, BTR-80 APC, MI-17 Helicopters and also air defense radars. Russian weapons are not that great. They suffer from the same reliability problems as their Chinese counterparts do.

 

[Bilal9]

PL 15 data sharing with friendly nations begun.

I find it hard to believe that the Chinese have not considered the possibility of the PL-15 data falling into the wrong hands and taken precautions - in the event if it did.

Easy to convince Whatsapp-educated people on this though...

 

[Lulldapull]

I find it hard to believe that the Chinese have not considered the possibility of the PL-15 data falling into the wrong hands and taken precautions - in the event if it did.

Easy to convince Whatsapp-educated people on this though...

Hmmm

Ample evidence that in the two weeks between pehlgaam and the first Indian strike on the night of May 6th thousands of AL-Turkiyan drones and Chinese HQ-9/16 specialists were flown in along with China J-10C pilots to launch those PL-15E’s.

Everything failed!

There was no evidence of PL-15E being used by Pakistan let alone proficiency training and all the loitering munitions and quadcopter AL-Turkiya drones were rushed in along with their crew.

Both China and AL-Turkiya eating humble pie now.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

I could compare Russian weapons with their Chinese counterparts for the fact that Bangladesh armed forces use weapons made both in China and Russia. We use Russian aircraft like MIG-29, YAK-130, BTR-80 APC, MI-17 Helicopters and also air defense radars. Russian weapons are not that great. They suffer from the same reliability problems as their Chinese counterparts do.

The flaw in your comparison is that the Russian planes your using is very old, at least 5 decades old. The Chinese weapons are relatively new still both faces same problem. This means that China technology is at the same level of 5 decade old Russian technology.

 

[Vsdoc]

Bohot bura haal hae sharma.......in ka aik bhee weapon na Russia nay khareeda aur na Iranndd nay......

Toba toba toba!

Kyun bhai kyun?........

Bolo na aaapp?

Ghareeb Pakistan chutiya bana aur ab saari dunya k saamnay zaleel!.....

Ye kya bukvaas hae bhai?

@Vsdoc

Dis unacceptable doc, and what dis means is we pendu don't got no real war experience nor a gauge to even test/ approve/ reject junk weaponry no?

Real whulldd scenario main kya huwa doc?

Ghudd ghaadddh no?

You did not have a choice after the US interest waned. Osama was found.

What manufacture base do you have. Forget research.

You dont even make your own cars and bikes .

You dont makes your own medicines.

You are an agrarian feudal tribal society hopped up on religion and wanting to wage war in 2025. While you people live out of an international begging bowl.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

 

[Vsdoc]

Hmmm

Ample evidence that in the two weeks between pehlgaam and the first Indian strike on the night of May 6th thousands of AL-Turkiyan drones and Chinese HQ-9/16 specialists were flown in along with China J-10C pilots to launch those PL-15E’s.

Everything failed!

There was no evidence of PL-15E being used by Pakistan let alone proficiency training and all the loitering munitions and quadcopter AL-Turkiya drones were rushed in along with their crew.

Both China and AL-Turkiya eating humble pie now.

Not to mention US crews at the nukes.

Who became bone curry.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

This conflict conclusively proved that India is the Big Daddy of Asia. What India is going to commission in next 5 years will be the futuristic technology.

We have dozens of hypersonic missile projects including glide vehicle and scramjet powered hypersonic vehicles with ultra long range starting from 300 km to 3000 km.

We can shoot down Chinese aircraft carrier in South China Sea from the soil of India any time. The most beautiful part of that is that neither China nor any other country in the world can intercept it. The only country which is working on the intersection of hypersonic glide vehicle is India. We are going to do that through our project Kusha. We are going to operationalise 300 kilowatt powered laser and we are working on the system to shoot down 200 drones at a time.

Our engineering is very frugal, low cost and most effective. We proved that in operation sindoor. We are going to deploy our systems on the coast of India, on the Iceland control by us including Andaman Nicobar and Lakshadweep.

The only nations will have the access to Indian ocean to whom we permit. We shall chock Malacca Strait anytime and declared no entry. We are Big Daddy of Asia. Salute us and say us daddy please let us pass through this area and we will give you the permission.

4 feet Chinese, read this carefully. Until you consider your real dead India your daddy and stop arming our spoiled Child Pakistan, you will encounter same humiliation which you faced in Chumar, Doklam, Galwan and now through your proxy Pakistan.

 

[Saif]

The flaw in your comparison is that the Russian planes your using is very old, at least 5 decades old. The Chinese weapons are relatively new still both faces same problem. This means that China technology is at the same level of 5 decade old Russian technology.

Bangladesh doesn't operate latest Chinese J-10. They operate F-7 which is 50 years old technology. MIG-29 is an old plane but YAK-130 is the newest light combat aircraft of Russian origin. YAK-130 is unreliable and has become a headache for BAF. Russian BTR-80 has design flaws and is unable to protect the troops inside against RPG or anti tank missiles.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

The most beautiful part of this incident is that Turkish Baryaktar drone, which was hyped a lot was shown its place. Along with Chinese weapons, the market of Turkish drones also finished.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

This was a war like never fought before. World's 12 most powerful country fought with world's 4 th most powerful country and third most powerful airforce. This war was unique in many ways and Pakistan was bought down on knees within just less than 4 days. World saw a war fought with modern warfare principles. Massive numbers of drones were used. An unimaginable precessions strike was demonstrated. World saw an unimaginable counter drone offensive with an accuracy never seen before over a very large theatre. This war changed the balance of power in Asia completely. Low cost frugal weapons displayed unimaginable accuracy which amazed many military think tanks across the world. World witnessed a rise of peaceful yet very powerful nation called India. We proved that our advocacy of peace has come from our confidence in our capabilities not from our weakness. World witnessed the real power and the fake power made out of paid propaganda. Many nations in the world are now in queue to buy Indian weapons and collaborate with India in weapons manufacturing.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Made In China, Failed In Pakistan: From Missiles, Radars To Air Defence System, How Operation Sindoor Exposed Dragon-Backed Weapons​

Written By Tarique Anwar|Last Updated: May 19, 2025, 09:28 PM IST|Source: Bureau

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New Delhi: Operation Sindoor not only marked a decisive military and strategic victory for India but also exposed vulnerabilities within Pakistan’s armed forces, particularly linked to their heavy reliance on Chinese-supplied military hardware. This conflict, according to reports, served as a real-world test for Chinese defense technology against a combination of Indian and Western platforms that revealed a pattern of system failures and underperformance.


With nearly 82% of Pakistan’s defense imports originating from China, the operation put these systems to the test under intense combat conditions. Indian forces successfully targeted key Pakistani military and terror infrastructure, overcoming or bypassing Chinese-origin air defense systems such as the HQ-9 – which failed to intercept Indian missile strikes, including those delivered BrahMos missiles system.



Ranging from PL-15 air-to-air missiles to J-10C fighter jets and naval frigates, other Chinese-supplied systems were also reported to have malfunctioned or underperformed during the conflict. It left Pakistani defenses compromised and unable to effectively respond to India’s offensive.

The operational setbacks experienced by these Chinese weapons have had broader repercussions beyond the immediate battlefield. The inability of these systems to deliver under combat conditions has impacted China’s reputation as a global arms exporter and reinforced longstanding concerns about the quality and reliability of Chinese military equipment.

Analysts said these failures validate earlier skepticism regarding Chinese defense technology and may accelerate the decline in China’s arms exports, which had already been shrinking due to quality issues. The credibility gap exposed by ‘Operation Sindoor’ also provides a strategic opening for other arms manufacturers, including India, to emphasise their own combat-proven reliability.

Observations, Incidents of Failure

Air Defense Systems (HQ-9, HQ-16/LY-80): The reports indicate the complete failure of Pakistan’s Chinese-made air defense systems to intercept Indian aircraft or missiles effectively. Indian forces successfully bypassed and jammed Pakistani air defense units, including those protecting important military installations. Questions have been raised about these systems’ detection and response capabilities – particularly against advanced Indian and Western technology.

Some Chinese nationals too reportedly criticised the Pakistani operators on social media, attributing failures to inadequate training and operational inefficiencies.

Air-to-Air Missiles (PL-15): Marketed as a rival to Western systems like the American AIM-120D, the Chinese PL-15 beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile reportedly failed to hit targets or malfunctioned mid-flight. Indian military officials displayed recovered fragments of a PL-15 missile in Hoshiarpur that had missed its target, casting doubt on its combat effectiveness.

While some pro-Chinese media sources attempted to claim PL-15 successes, these claims lacked independent verification and were largely dismissed as propaganda.

CM-400AKG Air-to-Surface Missile: The CM-400AKG air-to-surface missile, touted as a “carrier killer”, was detected early by Indian surveillance systems such as Netra and AWACS. Despite its speed, it lacks stealth features and terminal maneuverability – making it vulnerable to spoofing and jamming.

Fighter Jets (J-10C, JF-17): Pakistan deployed Chinese-made J-10C and JF-17 Block III fighter jets equipped with PL-15 missiles during the operation. However, these jets reportedly failed to significantly impede or deter Indian airstrikes.

Claims by Pakistani and Chinese sources, cited in media reports, that J-10C aircraft downed multiple Indian jets, including Rafales, remain unverified with no debris or evidence presented. Analysts generally regarded the Chinese jets’ performance against Indian aircraft – a mix of Russian and Western platforms – as ineffective.

Radar Systems: An Indian Air Force strike reportedly destroyed a Chinese-supplied YLC-8E anti-stealth radar at the Chunian Air Base in Punjab – exposing further vulnerabilities in China’s air defense offerings to Pakistan.

AR-1 Guided Missile (Deployed via Wing Loong-II Drones): The AR-1 is a Chinese laser-guided air-to-surface missile typically deployed from unmanned aerial vehicles like the Wing Loong-II drone.

Pakistan utilised these drones during the conflict, but Indian air defenses successfully intercepted or neutralised AR-1 missiles before they could hit targets. The missile’s failure highlights deficiencies against well-established Indian defense networks.

Chinese-Origin Drones: Pakistan employed various Chinese-origin drones for reconnaissance and offensive roles during the conflict. Indian forces intercepted and neutralised several drones, with wreckage displayed at official briefings.

These interceptions raise questions about the drones’ stealth capabilities and operational effectiveness in contested airspace.

Reliability and Quality Concerns

The conflict exposed fundamental vulnerabilities in the reliability and combat effectiveness of Chinese military technology despite Beijing’s aggressive marketing as a credible alternative to Western and Russian arms suppliers. Reports indicate frequent defects in critical components, poor quality control and inadequate after-sales support.

Past instances of malfunctioning Chinese military equipment sold to other countries – including faulty frigates for the Pakistan Navy and issues with fighter jets in Nigeria and Myanmar – point to a recurring pattern of quality problems.

Netizens’ Reactions

Across social media, netizens from China and other regions displayed mixed reactions. Some blamed Pakistani operational shortcomings rather than the hardware itself, while others expressed frustration over the exposed failures.

The debate highlighted how the weapons’ poor performance has become a sensitive topic, with some attempts to spin or downplay the deficiencies.

Meanwhile, Indian observers and analysts have pointed to the conflict as a proof point for India’s growing defense manufacturing capabilities and the reliability of its own systems.
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