[🇧🇩] BDR Mutiny---An Irreparable Damage to Bangladesh's First Line of Defense

[Saif]

However, you need a critical mind and solid information to think independently.

Solid information on BDR revolt cannot be found on the Internet. Researchers need access to inside information which I don't have. I also know that General Shakil was pro-India. Sheikh Hasina propagated the lies that all the murdered officers were pro-India. She did that to put the blame on BNP.

 

[Old School]

I also know that General Shakil was pro-India.

How do you know that ? Did you talk to him personally, or did someone tell you? If you can not come out from the BNP/BAL binary and give India credit for everything that you can not solve, you will never understand the dynamics of Bangladesh.
There are more powerful forces in Bangladesh than BNP/BAL. You have to know who they are, and they are not "do takke ka" officers as you may presume. You saw how "do takke ka" officers died in Pilkhna. It is the same In Pakistan.
I am telling you this because you have joined this defense forum to discuss things more critically than people in the tea stalls do based on hearsay. You will learn only when you acknowledge what you are missing.

 

[Saif]

How do you know that ? Did you talk to him personally, or did someone tell you?

I also read his article where he had advocated for giving transit facilities to India. No army officers with anti India bias would advocate for giving transit facilities to India because they knew India would use this transit facilities for military purpose. I don't discuss things based on hearsay. Please don't insult me. I rely on media and books/magazines for information. Researchers who don't have access to inside information use media and books/magazines to collect information. I am telling you the BDR revolt was masterminded by India. Thank you.

 

[Old School]

I also read his article where he had advocated for giving transit facilities to India. No army officers with anti India bias would advocate for giving transit facilities to India because they knew India would use this transit facilities for military purpose. I don't discuss things based on hearsay. Please don't insult me. I rely on media and books/magazines for information. Researchers who don't have access to inside information use media and books/magazines to collect information. I am telling you the BDR revolt was masterminded by India. Thank you.

Don’t take it personally. It is not facebook and nothing to feel insulted. Researchers don’t come to conclusions based on propaganda materials either. I already mentioned if read in my earlier posts that the so called BDR revolt was a reaction only. But what was the original action which prompted Indian government to get involved? What actually happened ? There was something serious going on and it has nothing to with revenge of previous hostilities . Your BD media is fully silent on it because they are not allowed to tell it you guys are also satisfied with India theory while closing the case. And BNP is no less pro-Indian than BAL. We know their founder Zia killed unarmed Pak officers while they were sleeping in 1971 including his commanding officer.

 

[Saif]

AL govt behind BDR mutiny: Rizvi

Responding to Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud’s comment that BNP was involved in the BDR mutiny, BNP Senior Joint Secretary General Ruhul Kabir Rizvi yesterday said the incident occurred under the patronage of the Awami League government.

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AL govt behind BDR mutiny: Rizvi​

Responding to Foreign Minister Hasan Mahmud's comment that BNP was involved in the BDR mutiny, BNP Senior Joint Secretary General Ruhul Kabir Rizvi yesterday said the incident occurred under the patronage of the Awami League government.

He made the remarks at a press conference at the party's Nayapaltan central office.​

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"The absence of the army operation in Pilkhana, the hospitality offered to the killers, the announcement of general amnesty, and allowing many to flee abroad raised many questions. Many people lost their jobs for raising those questions," he said.

"Secret information leaked by WikiLeaks published on August 30, 2011, testimonies of those involved in the incident, their trial process, partial report of the investigation committee, investigative reports of local and foreign newspapers and media, clearly prove that 57 army officers and many of their family members were brutally killed in the name of BDR mutiny in cold blood under the patronage of the Awami League government. And behind them were this government's foreign lords," he alleged.

Hasan Mahmud on Monday said it is clear as daylight that BNP was behind the BDR mutiny and killed the country's smart officers.​

 

[Saif]

And BNP is no less pro-Indian than BAL. We know their founder Zia killed unarmed Pak officers while they were sleeping in 1971 including his commanding officer.

Ask any Indian politicians, they will tell you that BNP is the only political party that spread anti India sentiment throughout Bangladesh. As for zia killing Lt. Colonel Janjua, do you even know how many Bengali army officers were killed by the Pakistani army?

You are going offtopic by discussing the events of Bangladesh's liberation war. I think you should stop bringing 1971 war in a thread opened to discuss BDR revolt. Thank you.

 

[Old School]

Ask any Indian politicians, they will tell you that BNP is the only political party that spread anti India sentiment throughout Bangladesh. As for zia killing Lt. Colonel Janjua, do you even know how many Bengali army officers were killed by the Pakistani army?

You are going offtopic by discussing the events of Bangladesh's liberation war. I think you should stop bringing 1971 war in a thread opened to discuss BDR revolt. Thank you.

BD army themselves killed their own rogue officers in Pilkhna 2009, but their intelligence set up a propaganda to divert people's attention to India ( most convenient) and elsewhere.
Nothing is off-topic when you discuss about India/Pakistan/Bangladesh military. Your BD army has a long track record of killing their officers, which was started by BNP founder Ziaur Rehman in 1971 ( most likely also by RAW?). You do not have the honesty to blame your own Army, and then you blame India, Pakistan, and everyone else. Unlike your Facebook page, everything you post here in this forum must go through public scrutiny. Accept it.

 

[Saif]

BD army themselves killed their own rogue officers in Pilkhna 2009, but their intelligence set up a propaganda to divert people's attention to India ( most convenient) and elsewhere.
Nothing is off-topic when you discuss about India/Pakistan/Bangladesh military. Your BD army has a long track record of killing their officers, which was started by BNP founder Ziaur Rehman in 1971 ( most likely also by RAW?). You do not have the honesty to blame your own Army, and then you blame India, Pakistan, and everyone else. Unlike your Facebook page, everything you post here in this forum must go through public scrutiny. Accept it.

Your claim that Bangladesh army killed their own officers in 2009 is bulls*hit. My thread has nothing to do with Bangladesh army. It has everything to do with Bangladesh Rifles (border security force). So you gone offtopic when you brought up president zia and our liberation war in the discussion. In 1971 there was no Bangladesh army. It was Pakistan army who started the killing of Bengali army and police officers in 25th March 1971. Do you have the honesty to blame your own Pakistan army for the killing and raping in East Pakistan? Don't teach me about public scrutiny of my post. I have been posting on the internet for 30 years. So, please go give your advice to someone else.