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I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

This post is written with the help of ChatGPT. Thank you
او بھائی ہم نے آج تک ایک میزائیل نہیں چلایا ہے جنگ مین۔ اور نہ کبھی انڈیا نہ کبھی کبھی چین نہ۔

اسرائیل کے اے بی ایم دفاع کو شکست دینا کوئی آسان کام نہیں ہے۔

اس میزائل یا ڈرون شوبے مین ہمارا کوئی تاجوربہ نہیں ہے۔

ایران ڈیلی ہملے کرتا ہے ڈرون اور میزیل سے۔ ایران کا بوہت تاجوربہ ہے اور اپنا تمم میزیل اور ڈرون خود بناتا ہے۔
 
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I must respectfully disagree with you, Sir LullDaPull.

I fail to understand why you consider Iran to be a "Tees Maar Khan." I am sorry but Iran is nothing more than a force of resistance. As a realistic person, I am surprised by your comparisons of Iran with Pakistan, India, and China. Your assessment of Iran's technological capabilities seems flawed, and I urge you to please reconsider your opinion.

Pakistan and India, despite being adversaries, recognise each other's strengths and weaknesses. As a Pakistani, I cannot dismiss the effectiveness of the Agni ballistic missiles, and Indians similarly acknowledge the capabilities of Ababeel and Shaheen.

Both Pakistan and China possess battle-proven aircraft such as the JF-17s and F-16s, while Iran has struggled to modernise its arsenal. Their primary focus is on proxy wars, as they are aware of their limitations in direct conflict. Please reconsider your stance, as countries like China are now competing on par with technologically advanced nations like the US and Europe, while Iran, despite its advancements in the tech industry, can barely upgrade its four-decade-old jets, which can still fly, albeit surprisingly. So when you make statements like Iran is ahead of China and Chinese hardware is junk, it is not true

The fear factor of Iran’s technological improvements is the same as the one for North Korea. Both are not battle proven and claim to be a lot. But it is more likely to be exaggeration. But it is difficult choice to make because most likely their technology is not as par with other countries but what if it is? That question mark demotivates nations like US and Israel.

Countries like Pakistan and India on the other hand has a history of tests and the whole world knows the capabilities and even countries like America cannot refuse to acknowledge this strength. For example when Pakistan conducted nuclear tests in 1998, after a couple of minutes, Americans had acknowledged successful nuclear test by Pakistan. The only question was the severity, the size of the nuclear bomb but the test itself was immediate recognise by the Europe. On the other hand, Koreans did the test several times but the west refused to acknowledge it as they considered the test was failed. Iran on the other hand never tried otherwise it would have been known.

I love Iran and wish them goodwill but it doesn’t mean you compare them with proven technologies of Pakistan, India or China. It’s embarrassing and then I can’t thank your post

This post is written with the help of ChatGPT. Thank you

Not a a bad assessment. Might I add that, unlike the Pakistanis, Iranians do not have strong battle tactics. I commend Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran and other resistance groups like the Houthis for playing smart long-term gameplay and making critical decisions in the grand scheme of things - but I do not see them as battle hardened and wise as the Pakistani military in battle tactics. Pakistan can outwit many opponents in the ground-to-ground battlefield. While, if Iran went for a full fledged war with Israel, it would be outclassed in battle tactics (also due to the fact that the Israelis play dirty).
 
Check this out folks........I believe Iran's planning some sort of a repeat of Oct 7th. An operation that will kill thousands of Israeli's. If this works, Israel's back will be broken:

 

Iran, allies ready Israel response as funerals held for militant leaders
AFP Tehran, Iran
Published: 02 Aug 2024, 08: 52

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Water mist is sprayed as Iranians take part in a funeral procession for late Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran, on 1 August, 2024, ahead of his burial in QatarAFP

Iran and its regional allies vowed retaliation on Thursday for the deaths of Hamas and Hezbollah leaders, raising regional tensions as mourners filled Tehran's city centre calling for revenge.

A public funeral was held for Hamas's political chief Ismail Haniyeh in the Iranian capital where he was killed early Wednesday in an attack which Israel has not commented on.

Haniyeh's body was then flown to Qatar, where he had resided and where he is to be laid to rest on Friday, when his group called for a "day of furious rage" in the Palestinian territories and across the region.

Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, addressing the funeral of the Lebanese group's top military commander, said Israel and "those who are behind it must await our inevitable response" to Fuad Shukr's and Haniyeh's killings within hours of each other.

"You do not know what red lines you crossed," Nasrallah said, addressing Israel, a day after Shukr was killed in a strike in south Beirut.

Israel, which said Shukr's assassination was a response to deadly rocket fire last week on the annexed Golan Heights, warned its adversaries on Thursday they would "pay a very high price" for any "aggression".

"Israel is at a very high level of preparation for any scenario, both defensive and offensive," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement.

"Those who attack us, we will attack in return."

A source close to Hezbollah told AFP that Iranian officials met in Tehran on Wednesday with representatives of the so-called "axis of resistance", a loose alliance of Tehran-backed groups hostile to Israel, to discuss their next steps.

"Two scenarios were discussed: a simultaneous response from Iran and its allies or a staggered response from each party," said the source who had been briefed on the meeting, requesting anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The leader of Yemen's Iran-backed Huthi rebels vowed a "military response" to Israel's "major escalation".

Analysts told AFP that the retaliation would be measured to avoid a wider conflagration.

Iran and the groups it backs "will more than likely try to avert a war, while also strongly deterring Israel from continuing with this new policy, this targeted shock and awe," said Amal Saad, a Hezbollah researcher and lecturer at Britain's Cardiff University.

In Tehran, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei led prayers for Haniyeh having earlier threatened "harsh punishment" for his killing.

'Roaring marches'

Crowds, including women shrouded in black, carried posters of Haniyeh and Palestinian flags in a procession and ceremony that began at Tehran University, an AFP correspondent reported.

Senior Iranian officials, including President Masoud Pezeshkian and Revolutionary Guards chief General Hossein Salami, attended the ceremony, state television images showed.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards announced the day before that Haniyeh and a bodyguard were killed in a pre-dawn strike Wednesday on their accommodation in Tehran.

The New York Times however reported, citing anonymous sources including two Iranian officials, that the blast was caused by an explosive device planted several months ago.

When asked about the report, Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters "there was no other Israeli aerial attack... in all the Middle East" on the night of Shukr's killing.

Qatar-based Haniyeh had been visiting Tehran for Pezeshkian's swearing-in on Tuesday.

Pezeshkian said Iran "will continue to support with firmer determination the axis of resistance", the official IRNA news agency said.

Qatar-based network Al Jazeera reported that the plane carrying Haniyeh's body had landed in Doha, where the Palestinian leader is to be buried following prayers at the Qatari capital's largest mosque.

Hamas called in a statement for a day of protests on Friday.

"Let roaring anger marches start from every mosque," it said.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called Haniyeh a "martyr" and announced a national day of mourning on Friday "in solidarity with the Palestinian cause". Pakistan too announced a national day of mourning.

300-day war

The international community has called for calm and a focus on securing a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip -- which Haniyeh had accused Israel of obstructing.

United Nations chief Antonio Guterres said the strikes in Tehran and Beirut represented a "dangerous escalation".

In a phone call, the foreign ministers of Jordan and Egypt blamed Israel for rising tensions and called for "de-escalation", Jordan's official Petra news agency reported.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken reiterated appeals for an end to fighting and said achieving peace "starts with a ceasefire".

But the prime minister of key ceasefire broker Qatar said Haniyeh's killing had thrown the whole Gaza war mediation process into doubt.

"How can mediation succeed when one party assassinates the negotiator on the other side?" Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al-Thani said on social media site X.

US President Joe Biden will speak to Netanyahu later on Thursday, the White House said.

The killings are the latest of several major incidents that have inflamed regional tensions during the Gaza war which has drawn in Iran-backed militant groups in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen.

Beyond Gaza, clashes continued on Thursday with Lebanese authorities reporting four Syrians killed in an Israeli strike, followed by Hezbollah announcing a barrage of "dozens" of rockets at Israel.

Israel has vowed to destroy Hamas in retaliation for its October 7 attack that resulted in the deaths of 1,197 people, mostly civilians, according to an AFP tally based on official Israeli figures.

Militants also seized 251 hostages, 111 of whom are still held captive in Gaza, including 39 the military says are dead.

Concern over the fate of those still held has grown among Israelis, who demonstrated demanding a deal to free them in Tel Aviv on Thursday, marking the war's 300th day.

Israel's retaliatory campaign against Hamas has killed at least 39,480 people in Gaza, according to the Hamas-run territory's health ministry, which does not give details of civilian and militant deaths.​
 
also Sir,

If Iran had MIRV missiles in its arsenal, it would have been helpful to engage the Iron Dome. I am talking about the technology which Iran does not have in 2024 and Pakistan has been using it for the last 15 years and China has had that technology since 1965.
Paa G China chickunn da aik weapon aaj tak kamyaab ne hoya dushmana de khilaaf!

I believe our jharrnail now figuring this out too.

All wes been sold over da last 50 years is not war winning technology you know?

Our armed forces are weak......because we have largely untested chinese weapons.

If we fire our Abdali or Shaheen missile at Israel right now, it will 100% get intercepted. And our small nuke warhead will be wasted.

You understand me, don't you?

Taanu samajh ne aata k Irani battle these harami Israheeli kuttiyaan daily, and we have no such experience no? All we got is third class chinese obsolete weapons from 1990/ 2000 era vintage.

We are in serious trouble bhai, our nuke deterrent and strategic forces and pretty much everything else is an untested/ unproven laughable joke!
 
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