Lulldapull
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umma chumma is dead in de water guys. There is no such thing and never will be.
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umma chumma is dead in de water guys. There is no such thing and never will be.
Inko bhi ye patta hai ki BJP inki parfah nahi karti inki issi raviyye ki wajah se to abb ye log chahtte bhi hain ki BJP ke saath jurre per ye bhee chahtte hain ki jaise so called secular parties inke sehlaati hain BJP walle bhi wo karre per BJP wo harkatte kartee nahi hain uspe se JOGI BABA time time per inko inki aukaat dikhatte rehtte hain so alag ... KIRPA YAHIN ATKI HUI HAIAbe pata to hai ki vote nahi Dene Wale hai. Jamakar thoko. Salo me jitani battamiziya aur baimaniya ki hai, sab ulta kar ke nikalvao.
Well this is subjective i guess ....
Muslims of India never really wanted Develpoment or Progress in so called WERSTERN METIRIALISTIC STANDARDS like
Democratic rights to all citizens of state without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
Eduction for all without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
Equality Before Law without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
thats cause they always thought themselfs superior to Non Muslims and this shows about how they treat Hindus / Sikhs /Bhudists or christians like non Muslim religious minorities or even non sunni muslim sects like Shias or ahmedies in Pakistan or Bangladesh
funniest part is even education dose not helps rather those who made Pakistan or proposed Idea of Pakistan were mostlyShiekh Muslims and Shia muslim feudals on UP & MP & Bengal presidency and Ahmedies in Punjab province
just look at education %age of Muslims Vs Hindus in 1931 for expample
please share your thoughts @Saif @Lulldapull @Bilal9 @Bagheera0084 @Vsdoc
First thing First .... the so called Muslim feudal elite /Mansabdaar's or Nawabs or Subedaar's type later who under British became Zameendaar's dint just invited British against Marathas but had earlier even called Nadir shah Nd then same delhi clergy likes of waliullah dehelvi called ahmed shah abdali against marathas again and before that there ancesstors had called Babbar against Pathan Ibrahim Lodhi who they thought was a bif too soft towards Rajpoots and even had Hindu Hemu as his Army chiefI think you are painting with too broad a brush and don't understand the underlying dynamics.
Educated Middle class Indian Muslims rejected Western education as a protest against the British Raj starting in the mid 1700s (Company Raj) following Bangla Nawab's defeat at Palashi (Plessey), they were not going to lick British boots. Which is why the lower rate of education for Muslims in British India and why they did not feature widely as administrative servants under Company and British Raj.
Upper class Indian Muslims got educated in Western Universities any way.
Middle class Indian Muslims got Aligarh Renaissance later (and similar opportunities).
Well this is subjective i guess ....
Muslims of India never really wanted Develpoment or Progress in so called WERSTERN METIRIALISTIC STANDARDS like
Democratic rights to all citizens of state without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
Eduction for all without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
Equality Before Law without discrimination based on Gender/ caste /religion/Race
thats cause they always thought themselfs superior to Non Muslims and this shows about how they treat Hindus / Sikhs /Bhudists or christians like non Muslim religious minorities or even non sunni muslim sects like Shias or ahmedies in Pakistan or Bangladesh
funniest part is even education dose not helps rather those who made Pakistan or proposed Idea of Pakistan were mostlyShiekh Muslims and Shia muslim feudals on UP & MP & Bengal presidency and Ahmedies in Punjab province
just look at education %age of Muslims Vs Hindus in 1931 for expample
please share your thoughts @Saif @Lulldapull @Bilal9 @Bagheera0084 @Vsdoc
well cnt say about then but today when i go drop my child to AKAASH for medical coaching there yu see many burke waliyan they are 10% of female students and 20% of male students prepairing for medical and same is with engineering and UPSCNumbers speak for themselves.
There are how many Indians here?
6?
How many Muslims do each of us remember in our school class or college batch?
Remember the total number of Muslims as a percentage of our population.
One should normally see near about the same mix in school, if not college (especially professional degrees).
i had my graduation from Dr Zakir Hussain College oppsite Ram Lila Maidan adjecent to Turkman Gate Old Delhi and it was Muslim Majority College ... per maine teen saal wahan bhee Navratro me Havan karayaAnd then ask yourselves, how many of those Muslims you remember were girls.
I think you are painting with too broad a brush and don't understand the underlying dynamics.
Educated Middle class Indian Muslims rejected Western education as a protest against the British Raj starting in the mid 1700s (Company Raj) following Bangla Nawab's defeat at Palashi (Plessey), they were not going to lick British boots. Which is why the lower rate of education for Muslims in British India and why they did not feature widely as administrative servants under Company and British Raj.
Upper class Indian Muslims got educated in Western Universities any way.
Middle class Indian Muslims got Aligarh Renaissance later (and similar opportunities).