World Breaking news: Iran will buy J-10C fighter jets to enhance military power | Khamenei (Indian News)

[Krishna with Flute]

J-10C, China's fourth class fighter jet.

Not against anyone. just. J-10C will tell everyone. The hopelessly suffocating disparity in strength between the agrarian and industrial countries



Once again. Not targeting anyone. It's time for some agricultural country jokes to end.

NATO won't sell. Russia is in war. India is not yet producing in big numbers. The only Choice that remains China.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Iran is working on this Q-313 as an autonomous AI interceptor.

No pilot needed:

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By seeing the design of this plane, I can say that it will have long combat radius. It is designed to to fly long distance because of high fuel efficiency because of design.

 

[Lulldapull]

By seeing the design of this plane, I can say that it will have long combat radius. It is designed to to fly long distance because of high fuel efficiency because of design.

Its optimized as a 500 knot cruise speed loyal wingman on AI.

Irans on the right track here Krishna.......always thinks out of the box and makes do with little investments with very smart people at the helm and end up with big results!

World class BM/ drone programs already in the top 3 on this planet.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Its optimized as a 500 knot cruise speed loyal wingman on AI.

Loyal wingman to what exactly ?

LW concept is to fly alongside and under control of a manned platform, isn't it ?

 

[Lulldapull]

Loyal wingman to what exactly ?

LW concept is to fly alongside and under control of a manned platform, isn't it ?

Well, I should have said solo birdman.......Totally on AI bhai........

Iran will pull this off Sharma, just watch.

X-58 'Valkyrie' is going to be the first AI fighter.......and hopefully Iran's 313 will be the second.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Well, I should have said solo birdman.......Totally on AI bhai........

Iran will pull this off Sharma, just watch.

X-58 'Valkyrie' is going to be the first AI fighter.......and hopefully Iran's 313 will be the second.

They NEED a proper air force, manned ka zamana khatam nahi hua hai, not just yet. So I'd say ki drone program jaari rakhein, by all means, but also fill the capability gaps.

They should get the SU35 or J10c or anything else they can asap to plug the capability gaps for now.

 

[Lulldapull]

They NEED a proper air force, manned ka zamana khatam nahi hua hai, not just yet. So I'd say ki drone program jaari rakhein, by all means, but also fill the capability gaps.

They should get the SU35 or J10c or anything else they can asap to plug the capability gaps for now.

I totally disagree!

Irans not just any other but a pioneer in warfare.

Iran should never accept any technology from anyone, but develop its own using its own scientific institutions and the huge numbers of doctorate graduate students coming into the market every year.

We've already put up the global IQ rankings here and seen who stands where in 'aqal' and the numbers of graduates in STEM majors.

In educated circles in Iran.......aap key shadi bhee nahi hoti ab unless you have a phd and a good job.

Iran must rely on itself.

 

[Vsdoc]

NATO won't sell. Russia is in war. India is not yet producing in big numbers. The only Choice that remains China.

India will never sell to Iran.

 

[Lulldapull]

India will never sell to Iran.

And neither would China......

 

[steppeWolff]

Even if the news of J10CE induction in IRIAF is true, it still would take them years to effects utilise them effectively.

Iranian military woud have to first integration itself with the Beidou SatNav system.

Their pilots have no experience with modern planes and modern aerial warfare.

They will have to induct a whole gamut of Chinese weaponry ecosystem to fully realise the J10CEs potential. Induction of AWACS, data transfer TDLs, integration of entire warmachine into a net centric web.

In short, it would take them years before they alter the aerial mismatch, even a few degrees in their favor.

 

[Vsdoc]

And neither would China......

Because of Pakistan?

 

[Vsdoc]

Even if the news of J10CE induction in IRIAF is true, it still would take them years to effects utilise them effectively.

Iranian military woud have to first integration itself with the Beidou SatNav system.

Their pilots have no experience with modern planes and modern aerial warfare.

They will have to induct a whole gamut of Chinese weaponry ecosystem to fully realise the J10CEs potential. Induction of AWACS, data transfer TDLs, integration of entire warmachine into a net centric web.

In short, it would take them years before they alter the aerial mismatch, even a few degrees in their favor.

But still many degrees better off than where they are now.

Naked and defenceless under their own skies.

For a country that is so good in drones and decoys and rockets and missiles, they should at the very least have a good multi layered air defence.

Turkey and Pakistan are the Muslim countries that have the manufacturing knowhow and could help.

But will not.

Western countries (Germany, Sweden, France, Poland) will not.

India will not.

Russia has not. Can. But has not.

That only leaves China.

And Iran holds China's balls in its hands ....

 

[steppeWolff]

But still many degrees better off than where they are now.

Naked and defenceless under their own skies.

Considering the deep infestation of western intelligence apparatus in Iran and Iranian military apparatus, I dont think Chinese would be willing to sell Iranians anything apart from watered down J10s. And without AWACS to vector to J10s, it would be a turkey shoot.

I think its time for Iran to pick a side. They are not Russia, US or China that they can play this game alone.

 

[Lulldapull]

Because of Pakistan?

No, because China is a US toady.......whatever the US says, China listens. US china trade $600 billion.......

 

[Vsdoc]

Considering the deep infestation of western intelligence apparatus in Iran and Iranian military apparatus, I dont think Chinese would be willing to sell Iranians anything apart from watered down J10s. And without AWACS to vector to J10s, it would be a turkey shoot.

I think its time for Iran to pick a side. They are not Russia, US or China that they can play this game alone.

But western intelligence infestation and control holds even more true for Pakistan.

You are literally a US base man.

Come on!

 

[steppeWolff]

For a country that is so good in drones and decoys and rockets and missiles, they should at the very least have a good multi layered air defence.

Doc, from my limited reads into the Iranian MIC, they are way ahead of both Pakistan and Turkiye in Air Defence and Missiles. Their IADS failure is attributed to subversion and sabotage. Their own people have been more than willing to hurt Iran.

Turkey and Pakistan are the Muslim countries that have the manufacturing knowhow and could help.

But will not.

Pakistan and Turkiye can help Iran in aerial warfare, EW, joint ops etc but tell me this, since decades Iran has been a hostile force against them both, why would they help Iran substantially? The limited help would come just so Tehran doesn't fall and we dont get a Zionist stooge on our borders. Pure strategic necessity. Nothing more.

 

[Vsdoc]

No, because China is a US toady.......whatever the US says, China listens. US china trade $600 billion.......

Steppewolff ko reply kiya.

Dekho ...

 

[steppeWolff]

But western intelligence infestation and control holds even more true for Pakistan.

You are literally a US base man.

Come on!

Yes but its a Chinese base too. Pakistan is a conduit for both sides to learn about each other. And both doesn't want that to change.

 

[Lulldapull]

I personally believe looking at china weaponry performance over the years that Iran is better off not getting anything from China at all.

Bilkul fuzool hathyaar.......They just don't work at all.

This is also why Russian gaanddu don't buy anything from China. They'd rather buy irani weapons no?

 

[steppeWolff]

I personally believe looking at china weaponry performance over the years that Iran is better off not getting anything from China at all.

Bilkul fuzool hathyaar.......They just don't work at all.

Chinese would surely take into account your feedback. Dont you worry.

 

[Lulldapull]

Chinese would surely take into account your feedback. Dont you worry.

Bhai other than us ghareeb, who is their customer?........bolo na?

 

[Vsdoc]

Yes but its a Chinese base too. Pakistan is a conduit for both sides to learn about each other. And both doesn't want that to change.

Interesting.

So then why not Iran?

Because nothing is coming from the opposite side (American)?

 

[Lulldapull]

Russian gaanddu didn't buy anything from China......3 saal honay ko aaey hain ukraine war ko?

Only thing Russia buying from China is printed circuit boards and chips for its FPV's......

buss......

 

[Vsdoc]

Russian gaanddu didn't buy anything from China......3 saal honay aaey hain.

Only thing Russia buying from China is printed circuit boards and chips for its FPV's......

buss......

Loads and mega loads of artillery shells bro.

 

[Lulldapull]

Few years ago the Sawdis, AL-Jordanians and AL-Iraqis bought a whole bunch of CH-4/5 UCAVs from China......they have performed so poorly that they have been put up for sale long ago and nobody wants to buy them as used (failed) equipment.

Iraq bought Chinese long track radars (SW) for tracking Daesh drones in AL-Anbar province and ground tracking radars for detecting infiltration.......vo bhee failure!

In k hathyaar no good bhai......I can provide sources and no bullshit.

 

[Lulldapull]

Loads and mega loads of artillery shells bro.

Maybe from fat kim......not China........

China wouldn't upset the US now would it?

 

[Vsdoc]

Maybe from fat kim......not China........

China wouldn't upset the US now would it?

Yes I think you are right. But weren't Chinese troops caught by the Ukrainian forces?

 

[Vsdoc]

To fir itni baar Putin aur Xi mile kyun?

What was that pact announcement for during the early to mid days of the war.

 

[Lulldapull]

Yes I think you are right. But weren't Chinese troops caught by the Ukrainian forces?

yes mercenaries. They were fed pig food in buckets......

 

[Lulldapull]

To fir itni baar Putin aur Xi mile kyun?

What was that pact announcement for during the early to mid days of the war.

China gets cheap oil.......thats all......thats the entire basis for their 'partnership'

Its the same for Iran........

otherwise no basis for nothing bhai......

 

[Vsdoc]

China gets cheap oil.......thats all......thats the entire basis for their 'partnership'

Its the same for Iran........

otherwise no basis for nothing bhai......

Yes. But what does China GIVE.

Iran aur Russia chtye to nahin hain? Just money main nahin maanta.

Maybe for Iran yes.

90% of Chinese oil comes from Iran.

But not for Russia.

 

[Lulldapull]

bukvaas chinese/ DPRK military.......captured and imprisoned Chinese mercenaries in Ukraine.....hundreds of them and thousands killed. Do rupay k chinese fauji. I bet most are convicted felons signing up no?

 

[Mainerik]

bukvaas chinese/ DPRK military.......captured and imprisoned Chinese mercenaries in Ukraine.....hundreds of them and thousands killed. Do rupay k chinese fauji. I bet most are convicted felons signing up no?

@Krishna with Flute @Jiangnan

 

[Lulldapull]

Yes. But what does China GIVE.

Iran aur Russia chtye to nahin hain? Just money main nahin maanta.

Maybe for Iran yes.

90% of Chinese oil comes from Iran.

But not for Russia.

Printed circuit boards, IC chips, consumer electronics, big oil n gas customer, chemicals pharma precursors.......a long laundry list......

 

[Vsdoc]

bukvaas chinese/ DPRK military.......captured and imprisoned Chinese mercenaries in Ukraine.....hundreds of them and thousands killed. Do rupay k chinese fauji. I bet most are convicted felons signing up no?

They are called penal battalions.

A favourite Soviet/Russian warfighting tactic.

 

[Jiangnan]

@Krishna with Flute @Jiangnan

so?

 

[Lulldapull]

They are called penal battalions.

A favourite Soviet/Russian warfighting tactic.

I saw them in Karachi during the CPEC peak........saaray lower level workers were convicts from chinese jails......quickly trained in the basic trades and sent over.

 

[Jiangnan]

中国也不会......

Oh no. As long as you kneel down and beg me now. And give me cash. I will consider selling J-10C to you.

 

[Jiangnan]

 

[Jiangnan]

Iran and India. As the two major poor and backward agricultural countries in the world. Their bodies are clearly more honest than their mouths.

 

[Jiangnan]

And neither would China......

It's true? Do you really want to buy Tejas？

 

[Jiangnan]

I saw them in Karachi during the CPEC peak........saaray lower level workers were convicts from chinese jails......quickly trained in the basic trades and sent over.

As long as you kneel down and beg me now. And give me cash. I will consider selling J-10C to you.

 

[Jiangnan]

Iran is a major poor and backward agricultural country in the world. Their bodies are clearly more honest than their mouths.



Not looking down on Iran and India. Just. The joke of an agricultural country is to keep it in the agricultural country.