[🇵🇰] Everything about latest Kashmir attack

[Lulldapull]

Maybe so, but Bajwa and IK and rest were the old guard..

Hafiz Munir and Pak fauj under him are running the show now.

but theys got da same paymaster in DC.......trump ka ulla no?.......lol

 

[Lulldapull]

That may be true for few well up brought guy like you but most of subcontinent (Yes, Indian Muslims as well) Muslims supports terrorism. Whenever Hindus, Jews and Christian are killed in terrorist attack, they celebrate it and give all sort of irrational arguments in favor of terrorist.

Those are all jahil people.......madarsa people.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Those are all jahil people.......madarsa people.

Yes bro but they are very big portion of Muslim population.

 

[Sharma Ji]

but theys got da same paymaster in DC.......trump ka ulla no?.......lol

In a sense, yes. The US still holds enormous sway over the establishment in Pak.. bhai, bacchon ki tareh paal pos k grow up and groom kara hai for DECADES.

China is relatively new in this game, WoT ka double game and dhoka after bloody dhoka caused the US to step back, ching chongs swooped right in to sell em gear and as new sugar daddy, mostly with an eye on India, I think.

Also, till some years back, though talk about it has quietened down by now.. there were reports of these China vs USA camps within the Pak fauj.. dunno ab kya scene hai but all the oldies and those senior officers who have retired relatively recently, around WoT.. unke bacchay, families sab west me enjoying the good life, plus zameen jayazaad back in Pak..

You know the score better than me, @Lulldapull


@Krishna with Flute @Vsdoc @Guru Dutt

 

[Lulldapull]

In a sense, yes. The US still holds enormous sway over the establishment in Pak.. bhai, bacchon ki tareh paal pos k grow up and groom kara hai for DECADES.

China is relatively new in this game, WoT ka double game and dhoka after bloody dhoka caused the US to step back, ching chongs swooped right in to sell em gear and as new sugar daddy, mostly with an eye on India, I think.

Also, till some years back, though talk about it has quietened down by now.. there were reports of these China vs USA camps within the Pak fauj.. dunno ab kya scene hai but all the oldies and those senior officers who have retired relatively recently, around WoT.. unke bacchay, families sab west me enjoying the good life, plus zameen jayazaad back in Pak..

You know the score better than me, @Lulldapull


@Krishna with Flute @Vsdoc @Guru Dutt

bilkul! the US camp won the debate and China left and got relegated to second fiddle status. Just an arms supplier to Pak to ensure an anti-India consensus, in consultation with the US.

We know dis bhai, but we are powerless to change the paradigm.

 

[Sharma Ji]

bilkul! the US camp won the debate and China left and got relegated to second fiddle status. Just an arms supplier to Pak to ensure an anti-India consensus, in consultation with the US.

We know dis bhai, but we are powerless to change the paradigm.

Yup, the US got a bigger market in India, and the Sino-Pak threat helps them sell even more to us.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

 

[Saif]

Residents stockpile food, rush to bunkers as conflict rattles India and Pakistan

Residents across Pakistan and India rushed to stockpile foods and other essential supplies, while families living near the border fled to safer areas, as armed clashes between the nuclear-armed nations escalated on Friday. India and Pakistan accused each other of launching new military attacks, us

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Residents stockpile food, rush to bunkers as conflict rattles India and Pakistan
REUTERS
Published :
May 09, 2025 21:50
Updated :
May 09, 2025 21:50

People who were evacuated from an area near the Line of Control (LoC) between India and Pakistan following cross-border shelling stand in queues to receive food at a college that was turned into a temporary shelter on the outskirts of Jammu, May 8, 2025. Photo : Reuters

Residents across Pakistan and India rushed to stockpile foods and other essential supplies, while families living near the border fled to safer areas, as armed clashes between the nuclear-armed nations escalated on Friday.

India and Pakistan accused each other of launching new military attacks, using drones and artillery for the third day, in the worst fighting between the two countries in nearly three decades.

The conflict erupted after India struck multiple locations in Pakistan on Wednesday that it said were “terrorist camps”, in retaliation for a deadly attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last month.

In the Indian state of Punjab, Amanpreet Dhillon, 26, said many families in his village — just 13km (8.08 miles) from the border with Pakistan — have already sent women and children to safer areas.

“I am also contemplating it... I’m afraid my village could be next,” he said.

In Indian-administered Kashmir’s Uri district, residents said many fled overnight after several houses were struck by shelling, some taking shelter behind rocks or in bunkers.

“We have never seen such intense shelling in our life. The majority of the people fled the town and other villages as soon as shelling started last night with some taking shelter in underground bunkers,” said Bashir Ahmad, 45, in the town of Baramulla in Uri. “It was a nightmare for us.”

In the Pakistani city of Lahore, which lies near the border, residents were shaken on Thursday by drones that Pakistan said were launched by India and were shot down in the city, setting off sirens and leading the US consulate to tell its staff to shelter in place.

Schools were closed on Friday and residents and shopkeepers said Lahoris were stocking up on food, gas cylinders for cooking and medicine, prompting authorities to issue a notice warning businesses not to artificially increase prices.

“I have stocked grocery for a month: we got meat, flour, tea, oil lentils etc and also drew extra cash from bank,” said Aroosha Rameez, 34, a Lahore resident.

Muhammad Asif, 35, said his pharmacy had seen an influx of customers.

“People in Lahore have started stocking medicines as well, which may lead to shortages of paracetamol, anti-allergies, antibiotics, blood pressure and diabetes medicines,” he said.

Food delivery app FoodPanda, popular in Pakistan, said it had seen a surge in grocery orders nationwide.

Across the border, India’s Consumer Affairs, Food, and Public Distribution minister warned against panic buying of food grains.

“We currently have stocks many times higher than the normal requirement—whether it is rice, wheat, or pulses...There is absolutely no shortage,” he said.

Pankaj Seth, a resident of Amritsar in India’s Punjab state, said people felt they had no choice: “We do not know if the markets will open tomorrow or not...I have children and grandchildren at home so I have to stock up.”

Some residents of border regions were also requesting relatives to bring them supplies as prices rose.

“My aunt lives in Attari and has asked me to get some flour for her as supplies are getting expensive there,” said Navneet Kaur, a nurse in Amritsar, 30km (19 miles)away, who was travelling to the town with a sack of flour.

FLEEING AT NIGHT

Residents of Kashmir near the line of control that divides the region faced a more stark and immediate threat.

Residents said they were starting to leave their villages and spend the nights, when shelling and firing roars through the valleys, in bunkers.

The prime minister’s office in Pakistan-administered Kashmir said over 400 people had been evacuated by authorities in two areas near the line of control.

“Ever since the attack (Indian strike) in Muzaffarabad, we have been living in our bunker, which we carved into a nearby rocky mountain,” said Manzoor Ahmed, 43, a resident of Jura Bandi village in the Neelum Valley, where local police confirmed most people were spending the night in bunkers.​

 

[Saif]

Trump says he hopes India and Pakistan stop now after going 'tit-for-tat'

President Donald Trump said on Wednesday Washington's partner India and US ally Pakistan have "gone tit-for-tat," and that he hoped the two nuclear-armed Asian neighbours could stop further escalations. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio separately discussed efforts to de-escalate tensions between

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Trump says he hopes India and Pakistan stop now after going 'tit-for-tat'
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Published :
May 08, 2025 10:45
Updated :
May 08, 2025 10:45

US President Donald Trump speaks during a swearing-in ceremony for the new US ambassador to China, former US Senator David Perdue, at the White House in Washington, DC, US, May 7, 2025. REUTERS/Leah Millis

President Donald Trump said on Wednesday Washington's partner India and US ally Pakistan have "gone tit-for-tat," and that he hoped the two nuclear-armed Asian neighbours could stop further escalations.

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio separately discussed efforts to de-escalate tensions between India and Pakistan with his Saudi Arabian counterpart in a Wednesday call, the State Department said.

KEY QUOTES

"They've gone tit-for-tat, so hopefully they can stop now," Trump said at the White House on Wednesday, adding he knew both sides "very well" and wanted "to see them work it out."

He added: "And if I can do anything to help, I will be there."

Trump has termed the rising tensions a shame.

WHY IT'S IMPORTANT

India hit Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir with missiles on Wednesday and Pakistan said it shot down some Indian aircraft and vowed to retaliate, in their worst clash in over two decades.

India is an important US partner for Washington, which aims to counter China's rising influence, while Pakistan remains an ally despite its diminished importance after Washington's withdrawal from neighboring Afghanistan in 2021.

US TALKS

In recent days, Washington has been in touch with both nations. Rubio has held calls with both, including after India's Wednesday strikes.

CONTEXT

India said it struck "terrorist infrastructure" sites, some linked to an Apr 22 attack by Islamist militants who killed 26 people in India-administered Kashmir. India blamed April's attack on Pakistan, which dismissed the accusations and called for a neutral probe. Washington expressed support for India at the time but did not directly criticize Pakistan.

Pakistan said over 30 people were killed in India's strikes on Wednesday.

Analysts say US involvement to achieve diplomatic goals in Russia's war in Ukraine and Israel's war in Gaza may make Washington leave India and Pakistan on their own in the early days of the tensions.​

 

[Saif]

Pakistan military spokesman says ‘we will not de-escalate’ with India

Pakistan’s military spokesman said on Friday it would not “de-escalate” with India, after days of missile, artillery and drone attacks. “We will not de-escalate -- with the damages India did on our side, they should take a hit,” Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry told media at a briefing. “So far we have...

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Pakistan military spokesman says ‘we will not de-escalate’ with India
AFP Rawalpindi, Pakistan
Published: 09 May 2025, 21: 21

Security personnel stands guard near the Karachi Port in Karachi on 9 May 2025, amid the ongoing border tensions between India and Pakistan after the Kashmir tourist attack AFP

Pakistan’s military spokesman said on Friday it would not “de-escalate” with India, after days of missile, artillery and drone attacks.

“We will not de-escalate -- with the damages India did on our side, they should take a hit,” Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry told media at a briefing.

“So far we have been protecting ourselves but they will get an answer in our own timing.”​

 

[Saif]

Pakistan says India has brought neighbours ‘closer to major conflict’

Pakistan charged India Friday with bringing the nuclear-armed neighbours “closer to a major conflict”, as the death toll from three days of missile, artillery and drone attacks passed 50. The bloody escalation comes after an attack on tourists last month in the Indian-run part of disputed...

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Pakistan says India has brought neighbours ‘closer to major conflict’
AFP Islamabad
Published: 09 May 2025, 21: 19

Supporters of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Fazal (JUI-F) shout slogans during an anti-India protest in Islamabad on 9 May 2025 AFP

Pakistan charged India Friday with bringing the nuclear-armed neighbours “closer to a major conflict”, as the death toll from three days of missile, artillery and drone attacks passed 50.

The bloody escalation comes after an attack on tourists last month in the Indian-run part of disputed Kashmir that killed 26 people and which New Delhi accused Islamabad of backing -- an allegation Pakistan denied.

India responded with air strikes Wednesday on what it called “terrorist camps” in Pakistan, fuelling the worst clashes between the two in decades.

On a third day of tit-for-tat exchanges since, the Indian army said it “repulsed” waves of Pakistani attacks using drones and other munitions overnight, and gave a “befitting reply”.

India also accused Pakistani forces on Thursday of targeting three military stations -- two in Kashmir and one in the neighbouring state of Punjab.

Pakistan’s Information Minister Ataullah Tarar said Pakistan had “not targeted any locations in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu & Kashmir, or across international border, so far”.

The two countries have fought several wars over Kashmir since their independence from Britain in 1947.

‘War hysteria’

Pakistan’s foreign ministry spokesman said Friday that India’s “jingoism and war hysteria” should be a source of serious concern for the world.

“It is most unfortunate that India’s reckless conduct has brought the two nuclear-armed states closer to a major conflict,” Shafqat Ali Khan told a briefing in the capital, Islamabad.

Pakistani security and government officials said five civilians -- including a two-year-old girl -- were killed by Indian shelling overnight in areas along the heavily militarised Line of Control (LoC), which divides Kashmir.

“In response, the Pakistan Army carried out a strong counterattack, targeting three Indian posts,” police official Adeel Khan, told AFP from Kotli district, where four of the deaths occurred.

Pakistani military sources, meanwhile, said that its forces had shot down 77 Indian drones in the last two days, claiming they were Israeli-made.

In Indian-administered Kashmir, a police official said one woman was killed and two men wounded by heavy overnight shelling in Uri, some 100 kilometres (60 miles) from the state capital Srinagar.

“The youth of Kashmir will never forget this act of brutality by India,” said 15-year-old Muhammad Bilal in Muzaffarabad, the main city in Pakistan-administered Kashmir where a mosque was hit in Wednesday’s strikes.

In Jammu, also under Indian administration, 21-year-old student Piyush Singh said: “Our [attack] is justified because we are doing it for whatever happened to our civilians.”

Schools closed

Pakistan has rejected claims by New Delhi that it was behind last month’s attack in Pahalgam, Indian-administered Kashmir, when gunmen killed 26 people, mainly male Hindu tourists.

India blamed the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba -- a UN-designated terrorist organisation -- for the attack.

Militants have stepped up operations in Muslim-majority Kashmir since 2019, when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu-nationalist government revoked its limited autonomy and took the state under direct rule from New Delhi.

On Friday schools were closed on both sides of the Pakistan and Indian border in Kashmir and Punjab, affecting tens of millions of children.

India has also closed 24 airports, but according to local media the suspension on civilian flights may be lifted on Saturday morning.

The conflict has caused major disruption to international aviation, with airlines having to cancel flights or use longer routes that don’t overfly the Indian-Pakistan frontier.

The mega Indian Premier League (IPL) cricket tournament was on Friday suspended for a week, the Indian cricket board announced, a day after a fixture was abandoned in Dharamsala, less than 200 kilometres (125 miles) from Jammu, where explosions had been reported.

The Pakistan Super League, meanwhile, was moved to the United Arab Emirates, after an Indian drone struck Rawalpindi stadium on Thursday.

Calls for de-escalation

American Vice President JD Vance has called for de-escalation, while underlining that Washington was “not going to get involved in the middle of a war that’s fundamentally none of our business”.

Several countries have offered to mediate, and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi met his Indian counterpart Subrahmanyam Jaishankar in New Delhi on Thursday, days after visiting Pakistan.

Diplomats and world leaders have pressured both countries for restraint.

However, the International Crisis Group said “foreign powers appear to have been somewhat indifferent” to the prospect of war, despite warnings of possible escalation.

“A combination of bellicose rhetoric, domestic agitation and the remorseless logic of military one-upmanship have heightened the risks of escalation, particularly because for some time there was no diplomatic communication between the sides,” it said.

Amnesty said the warring sides “must take all necessary measures to protect civilians and minimise any suffering and casualties”.​

 

[Saif]

Global militaries to study Indo-Pak fighter jet battle

A dogfight between Chinese-made Pakistani jets and French-made Indian Rafale fighters will be closely scrutinised by militaries seeking insights that could offer an edge in future conflicts, reports DAWN.com.

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Global militaries to study Indo-Pak fighter jet battle
New Age Desk 09 May, 2025, 22:52

Journalists film missile fragments at the compound of an Islamic seminary after Indian strikes in Ahmedpur Sharqia in Pakistan's Punjab province, on May 7, 2025. | AFP photo

A dogfight between Chinese-made Pakistani jets and French-made Indian Rafale fighters will be closely scrutinised by militaries seeking insights that could offer an edge in future conflicts, reports DAWN.com.

A Chinese-made Pakistani fighter plane shot down at least two Indian military aircraft on Wednesday, two US officials told Reuters, marking a potential major milestone for Beijing’s advanced fighter jet.

The aerial clash is a rare opportunity for militaries to study the performance of pilots, fighter jets and air-to-air missiles in active combat, and use that knowledge to prepare their own air forces for battle.

Experts said the live use of advanced weapons would be analysed across the world, including in China and the United States which are both preparing for a potential conflict over Taiwan or in the wider Indo-Pacific region.

One US official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters there was high confidence that Pakistan had used the Chinese-made J-10 aircraft to launch air-to-air missiles against Indian fighter jets.

Social media posts focused on the performance of China’s PL-15 air-to-air missile against the Meteor, a radar-guided air-to-air missile produced by European group MBDA. There has been no official confirmation these weapons were used.

‘Air warfare communities in China, the US, and a number of European countries will be extremely interested to try and get as much ground truth as they can on tactics, techniques, procedures, what kit was used, what worked and what didn’t,’ said Douglas Barrie, senior fellow for military aerospace at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.

‘You have arguably China’s most capable weapon against the West’s most capable weapon, if indeed it was being carried; we don’t know that,’ Barrie said. The French and Americans would likely be hoping for similar intelligence from India, Barrie said.

‘The PL-15 is a big problem. It is something that the US military pays a lot of attention to,’ a defence industry executive said.

Rafale manufacturer Dassault Aviation declined comment and the MBDA consortium could not immediately be reached for comment on a French public holiday.

Western analysts and industry sources said crucial details remained unclear including whether the Meteor was carried and the type and amount of training the pilots had received. Arms firms would also be anxious to separate technical performance from operational factors, analysts said.

‘There will be audits of what works and what doesn’t work, but I think the other overlay is the proverbial fog of war,’ said Byron Callan, a Washington-based defense expert and managing partner of Capital Alpha Partners.

US arms companies are getting constant feedback about how their products are working in the war in Ukraine, he said.

‘So I absolutely expect the same to be the case with India’s European suppliers, and Pakistan and China are probably sharing the same feedback. If the PL-15 is working as advertised or better than expected, the Chinese would like to hear that.’

A defence industry source from a Western country operating the Meteor said an online picture of a seeker appeared to feature the component of a missile that had missed its target.

There are conflicting reports on whether Pakistan has the domestic version of the PL-15 from the PLAAF, China’s air force, or the lower-range export version publicly unveiled in 2021.

Barrie, who has written extensively on the missile, said he believed that Pakistan most likely has the export version.

A Western industry source dismissed claims that the rocket-powered PL-15 had longer range than the air-breathing Meteor but acknowledged that its capability ‘may be greater than was thought.’ The Meteor’s range has not been officially published. ‘At the moment it’s not possible to judge anything. We know so little,’ the industry source said.

The PL-15’s range and performance have been a focus of Western interest for years. Its emergence was seen as one of many signals that China had moved well beyond reliance on Soviet-era derivative technology.

The United States is developing the AIM-260 Joint Advanced Tactical Missile via Lockheed Martin partly in response to the PL-15 and its beyond-visual-range performance — part of a broader reset of Western priorities toward China.

European nations are exploring a mid-life upgrade for Meteor, which specialist publication Janes says could involve propulsion and guidance, but analysts say progress has been slow.

US president Donald Trump in March awarded Boeing the contract to build the US Air Force’s most sophisticated fighter jet yet, which would likely include stealth, advanced sensors and cutting-edge engines.​