[🇮🇳] India Eyes Customized Two-Seat Variant of Russia’s Su-57 Stealth Fighter for Local Production: Russian Media

[Bilal9]

Cant say for certain but I doubt the J 20 will be made available even to friendly nations by China.

Capabilities aside, its a prestige project, the queen of the stable (and maybe a hangar queen too, no idea lol)

They want to project it's mystique, the pinnacle of Chinese military fighter aviation. Packed with bleeding edge electronics and weaponry too sensitive to be trusted with anyone else.

As usual, and is is the case with almost anything that comes out of China, all this drama about J 20 is also a cheap COPY of the F 22.

Unki mentality hi aisi hai, sab kuch copy marne ka.

One can diss a product saying its a copy, but at least they made an attempt. Very few countries can claim creation of a fifth generation fighter. China has at least two on tap.

Not whitewashing their moral standing, but to Chinese (and even Japanese) folks, copying something is not morally wrong. It is flattery. Japanese did copy stuff forty or fifty years ago, ditto with Koreans and of course Taiwanese. Gen Z people do not know this.

If the Chinese J-20 has a canard and is unique - then is it a copy?

Chinese will have their own jet engines to power these soon (WS-15 and WS-20), what other non-western country except Japan can claim that honor?

Bad mouthing Chinese achievements has become a disease nowadays. I think there are lessons we can learn from them instead of offering them pointless jealousy.

 

[Bilal9]

[IMG alt="Bilal9"]https://pkdefense.com/data/avatars/s/0/6.jpg?1726690204[/IMG] @Bilal9 bro, Do you believe in Americans or Indians? Do you believe in Su-30 or F-35?

Well that link you posted - seems rather legit in any case...

 

[Jiangnan]

Well that link you posted - seems rather legit in any case...

How's AMCA doing now? Is its airframe already complete? What do you think of Indian carbon fiber technology？

Why does India suddenly want to buy SU-57?

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Woah lot of strong claims.

I would be glad if you can provide some proof or links to support your claims.

This topic was discussed in depth on old PDF. This is very old news. I will try to get those links and post here. Meanwhile, I have provided all other references you and Saif had asked for. I hope you have gone through them.

 

[Krishna with Flute]

J-20 has engaged in multiple battles with F-35. The US Air Force Commander did not say that they detected the J-20 from radar

F-35s have encountered J-20s over East China Sea: USAF general

A top US Air Force (USAF) general says that Lockheed Martin F-35s have had at least one encounter with Chengdu J-20s, and that the Shaanxi KJ-500 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft has a key role in long-range air-to-air kill chains.

www.flightglobal.com

But the Indians said. They detected the J-20 with SU-30 radar...

@Bilal9 bro, Do you believe in Americans or Indians? Do you believe in Su-30 or F-35?

Fine. You want to believe Americans? Ok. If I quote what Americans have said about J 20 and Su 57 than you promise you will believe that without any arguments and Ifs and Buts. Do agree to that and I will start posting about what Americans have said about J 20. Let us begin.

@Vsdoc , @Sharma Ji , @Bilal9

 

[Krishna with Flute]

Um... But who proved to me that China deployed J-20 on the China India border in 2018? And the Su-30 radar? What jokes are Indians making?

Reminder again. This is an international forum. Not an Indian forum. Don't let Indian jokes spread here. Indian Su-30? What kind of garbage is that! It crashes every day.

Sukhoi Fighter Jet Crashes In Nashik, Pilot, Co-Pilot Eject Safely

A Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jet crashed in a field in Maharashtra's Nashik today. The pilot and the co-pilot managed to eject safely but have suffered injuries.

www.ndtv.com

I think you are a poor reader. Read it again. Su 30 Detected it over the sky of Tibet. i.e far away from Indian border. Afterall, J 20 is Chinese fifth generation plane and Chinese quality is invariably attached to that. It is like China copied BMW but it scored in crash rating. Chinese quality is synonym to flimsy stuff.

 

[Jiangnan]

This topic was discussed in depth on old PDF. This is very old news. I will try to get those links and post here. Meanwhile, I have provided all other references you and Saif had asked for. I hope you have gone through them.

Fine. You want to believe Americans? Ok. If I quote what Americans have said about J 20 and Su 57 than you promise you will believe that without any arguments and Ifs and Buts. Do agree to that and I will start posting about what Americans have said about J 20. Let us begin.

@Vsdoc , @Sharma Ji , @Bilal9

Although I want to believe in you. But when I think about it. India has been tracking Venus as a spy for China for 6 months....

India: Army 'mistook planets for spy drones'

India's army spent six months watching "Chinese spy drones" violating its air space, only to find out they were actually Jupiter and Venus, it's reported.

www.bbc.com

India, just India.

 

[Jiangnan]

I think you are a poor reader. Read it again. Su 30 Detected it over the sky of Tibet. i.e far away from Indian border. Afterall, J 20 is Chinese fifth generation plane and Chinese quality is invariably attached to that. It is like China copied BMW but it scored in crash rating. Chinese quality is synonym to flimsy stuff.

You just need to tell me. How does the Su-30 use its outdated radar to detect the J-20? Just because it's an Indian Su-30? How many planes did it crash this year?

India! Assemble a qualified rifle first!