[🇧🇩] Is India trying to destabilize the current interim government of Bangladesh to bring back Hasina?

[Bilal9]

Not lies. She was India's PM.

She owed you nothing.

That you got a country gratis, be grateful.

We spent our own blood and treasure.

What treasure?

• These days Illegal Indian workers (some 26 lakh reportedly) remit almost close to 5 Billion plus from Bangladesh yearly. Real number probably a lot higher since that figure is from five years ago - according to an Indian source.
• India exports almost 15 Billion of FMCG products which we allow to be sold locally.
• Then Bangladeshis travelling to India for Medical and Retail tourism brings in almost 20 Billion to Indian coffers. This pattern has been going on for 50 years.

This equates to 40 Billion plus India nominally makes from Bangladesh every year and has been making proportionally every year for 50 plus years. Are you for real ??

Gratitude? Really?

In return,

• India restricts Bangladesh exports to its shores by imposing non-tariff barriers on all sorts of goods. I belong to the chambers in Dhaka and Chittagong, these are facts that are well-known in Bangladesh.
• India also shoots Bangladeshis dead at the border like birds, which is contrary to all Int'l border conventions. Arrests are okay - deaths are not.
• India unilaterally withdraws water from upper riparian areas, in contravention of all int'l laws. This has turned entire Northern area of Bangladesh into a desert.
• India unilaterally (without notice) opens up Dam floodgates, causing floods in Southern areas.
• Myriad other bilateral issues coming from Indian side - which is totally inept and irresponsible.
• India has no friends left in South Asia.

India milked Bangladesh for fifty two years unilaterally with exports of agri-goods, industrial products and even FMCG products of every sort imaginable. This prevented our self sufficiency and industrial capability. It set up obedient commerce ministers in every Bangladeshi administration and strong-armed them to the hilt.

Not only that, India tried to use our logistics infra for free by using Hasina. She built all these six lane freeways for use by Indians to go back and forth to the NE seven sisters and to use our ports in the last fifteen years. Thank Allah this is stopped now.

Now considering all this, the fact that some Bangladeshis consider Indian Govt. to be a friend, is the amazing part. Not well-deserved at all.

That day of India exploiting Bangladesh is now long gone. No more milking Bangladesh. Walaikum Tafaat.

 

[Saif]

You or anyone else would be mad then to believe that we would take you back.

Most of the people in Bangladesh view India as an impoverished nation. Why would anyone from Bangladesh like to join India when Bangladeshis have a much better future by being independent?

 

[Bilal9]

So what you're saying is that Bangladesh is no different to Middle Eastern or African savages.

Got it bhai.

And then you are surprised at the basket case prophecies.

It is high irony that you call Middle Eastern people (mostly Arabs) "savages" when the majority of your remittance (which your 3rd world country essentially runs on) comes from these countries.

Have some gratitude. Without Gulfie Arab money, all the RSS Shakhas would close.

Now Indians and their Godi Media have been screaming in overdrive about "predik-sun" on whether Bangladesh becomes a basket case (or likely not). Republic TV and their clowns are a treat.

I tell you guys what - no one in Bangladesh gives two $hitz about it and they already went back to business as usual, and you guys should as well.

 

[Vsdoc]

Most of the people in Bangladesh view India as an impoverished nation. Why would anyone from Bangladesh like to join India when Bangladeshis have a much better future by being independent?

Why do birds fly.

Why do fish swim.

Why does a Bangladeshi polevault.

 

[Saif]

Why do birds fly.

Why do fish swim.

Why does a Bangladeshi polevault.

There are 2.6 million Indians who work in Bangladesh's textile industry as machine operators. They send $6 billion worth of remittance to super rich India. You have your share of pole-vaulters and we have ours.

 

[Vsdoc]

There are 2.6 million Indians who work in Bangladesh's textile industry as machine operators. They send $6 billion worth of remittance to super rich India. You have your share of pole-vaulters and we have ours.

We have close to 10 million illegal Bangladeshi pole vaulters with Aadhaar card and all the benefits of an Indian citizen.

Bengali Indians can instantly make them out by the way they speak.

For the rest of us, they fly under the radar as typical checked lungi impoverished Muslims from Bihar and Bengal.

And they do menial jobs. And many of the women land up in the flesh trade.

 

[Saif]

We have close to 10 million illegal Bangladeshi pole vaulters with Aadhaar card and all the benefits of an Indian citizen.

Bengali Indians can instantly make them out by the way they speak.

For the rest of us, they fly under the radar as typical checked lungi impoverished Muslims from Bihar and Bengal.

And they do menial jobs. And many of the women land up in the flesh trade.

In my previous post I was talking about the Indians who have some sort of educational background. But in Bangladesh there are other Indians with no formal educational background who end up doing odd jobs.

 

[Sharma Ji]

India (Manekshaw) did the least possible for the best possible outcome.

There's a word for that, y'know ?

efficiency

Wiki defines it as:

.. the often measurable ability to avoid making mistakes or wasting materials, energy, efforts, money, and time while performing a task. In a more general sense, it is the ability to do things well, successfully, and without waste.

@Vsdoc

 

[Vsdoc]

There's a word for that, y'know ?

efficiency

Wiki defines it as:

.. the often measurable ability to avoid making mistakes or wasting materials, energy, efforts, money, and time while performing a task. In a more general sense, it is the ability to do things well, successfully, and without waste.

@Vsdoc

Bilal is an old hand. Read between the lines of his posts. He knows the score. He knows they are well off the rails now.

At least on the OG forum they were still stitching clothes and doing ok.

He's a Bangladeshi nationalist. Living in the west. Not a loony jamati.

Enough cause for him to be concerned.

 

[Sharma Ji]

Bilal is an old hand. Read between the lines of his posts. He knows the score. He knows they are well off the rails now.

At least on the OG forum they were still stitching clothes and doing ok.

He's a Bangladeshi nationalist. Living in the west. Not a loony jamati.

Enough cause for him to be concerned.

inki fati padi hai

 

[Vsdoc]

inki fati padi hai

No skin off his back. Hes an expat settled in and doing well in the west. Far away from the infantile madness that is currently Bangladesh.

The ones still living there though, are still flush with "revolution" fervor. Give it time. The economics will bite soon.

Till then, lashing out at Hindus is the much needed and delayed catharsis for most of them.

Remember what I told you guys about what I saw when I was there last. I had predicted this 2 years ago.

 

[Sharma Ji]

No skin off his back. Hes an expat settled in and doing well in the west. Far away from the infantile madness that is currently Bangladesh.

The ones still living there though, are still flush with "revolution" fervor. Give it time. The economics will bite soon.

Till then, lashing out at Hindus is the much needed and delayed catharsis for most of them.

Remember what I told you guys about what I saw when I was there last. I had predicted this 2 years ago.

Hmm.. anecdote bannta hai, suno

very late 80s, 89 around, just before the *&*&*&*& hit the fan in J&K, my parents decided to take a vacation to the valley, hotel deals seemed good.. hum pahunch gaye. Everything khaali khaali, mostly sannata, my mum recals vividly how the friendly taxi driver was raging about Faruq Abdullah or something "kaat denge.. etc" .. anyway, hamari kaafi uneventful and pleasant trip rahi, Gulmarg/Sonmarg (one of the 2) glaciers, lived on house boat, did a bit of idhar udhar gardens and street tours, was quite nice what little I recall.

Within a few months the scene was in full swing. We know what followed.. there was also this super cute Ms Kaul, our teacher in little school.. early 90s, and how there was this air about her, everyone would follow her around in school.. ki bechaari refugee hai.. I think she'd lost a few in the violence.. of course, I had no idea, but all these years the pieces are coming together, full matrix style

but that BD is heading to utter chaos, mujhe bhi yehi feeling hai.. plus, unki ideology.. no bullwarks anymore, creaky bulkheads, some have given way.. she listing.

Eastern command better be up to it, a Pakistan rises to our east again

*cracks knuckles and neck .. aa jao pancho !

ho jae fir

 

[Vsdoc]

Hmm.. anecdote bannta hai, suno

very late 80s, 89 around, just before the &&&& hit the fan in J&K, my parents decided to take a vacation to the valley, hotel deals seemed good.. hum pahunch gaye. Everything khaali khaali, mostly sannata, my mum recals vividly how the friendly taxi driver was raging about Faruq Abdullah or something "kaat denge.. etc" .. anyway, hamari kaafi uneventful and pleasant trip rahi, Gulmarg/Sonmarg (one of the 2) glaciers, lived on house boat, did a bit of idhar udhar gardens and street tours, was quite nice what little I recall.

Within a few months the scene was in full swing. We know what followed.. there was also this super cute Ms Kaul, our teacher in little school.. early 90s, and how there was this air about her, everyone would follow her around in school.. ki bechaari refugee hai.. I think she'd lost a few in the violence.. of course, I had no idea, but all these years the pieces are coming together, full matrix style

but that BD is heading to utter chaos, mujhe bhi yehi feeling hai.. plus, unki ideology.. no bullwarks anymore, creaky bulkheads, some have given way.. she listing.

Eastern command better be up to it, a Pakistan rises to our east again

*cracks knuckles and neck .. aa jao pancho !

ho jae fir

Yes, sadly its the religion thing thats going to ride piggyback and then rise above and engulf this post revolution largely emotionally immature nation.

We saw it in Pakistan.

We saw it Iran.

We delayed it in Bangladesh. Up until now.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Sharma Ji]

We delayed it in Bangladesh. Up until now.

Cheers, Doc

It had been licking it's wounds, refilling it's venom sacks, and regrowing those hypodermic fangs all along.

Release the nevlas, and the bobcats !

 

[Sharma Ji]

No NAVY

No Air Force

Lousy azz coastguard

...

nothing.. literally nothing

they have NO idea how much pain awaits them if ever, god forbid, hostilities were to break out.

there is no Ukraine Russia here.. they'll be dealt with in one fell conventional swoop.. jhatka

or we could do the other slowly by slowly thing too..

their play, their turn..

dekho..

 

[Bilal9]

Guys - as amusing as you guys are, please try to stay on topic.

And the topic is not "Bangladesh going down the tubes" - it is...

"Is India trying to destabilize the current interim government of Bangladesh to bring back Hasina" ?

 

[Saif]

Does India have anything to do with the following incident? I am sure India wants to destabilize our energy sector to topple the incumbent government.

Fire on vessel at Bay: LPG tanker Sophia being towed to deep sea

The LPG tanker which caught fire early today at Kutubdia anchorage was being towed to deeper sea in the Bay of Bengal

www.thedailystar.net

Fire on vessel at Bay: LPG tanker Sophia being towed to deep sea

Photo: Collected

The LPG tanker which caught fire early today at Kutubdia anchorage was being towed to deeper sea in the Bay of Bengal.

Asked about latest update, an official of CPA Marine Department told The Daily Star at 7:30pm that a CPA tugboat Kandari 4 was towing the tanker B-LPG Sophia deeper into the Bay from Kutubdia anchorage while another tugboat Kandari 3 was spraying water on it, reports our Chattogram staff correspondent.

Fire cannot be seen from the head to rear parts of the tanker but it could not be confirmed that fire has been extinguished, he said.

Fire is not visible as a firefighting tugboat was working to douse the flames but dense smoke was coming out of the vessel, the official added.

"We're cooling the vessel to stop combustion and trying to send technical experts onboard before crew can be deployed," he said.

He anticipated that fire would automatically stop if all the LPG gas is burnt.

The LPG tanker, B-LPG Sophia, caught fire around 12:55am when it was lightering liquid petroleum gas from mother vessel, Captain Nikolas.​

 

[Vsdoc]

Guys - as amusing as you guys are, please try to stay on topic.

And the topic is not "Bangladesh going down the tubes" - it is...

"Is India trying to destabilize the current interim government of Bangladesh to bring back Hasina" ?

And what does what you just posted have anything to do with that topic Bilal?

Speaking of your besieged Hindu community, apparently there is a temple in Bangladesh where the deity had a gold crown presented by the Indian PM.

That crown has been stolen now.

 

[Saif]

That crown has been stolen now.

A greedy thief may have stolen the crown. Please refrain from giving it a religious color.

 

[Vsdoc]

A greedy thief may have stolen the crown. Please refrain from giving it a religious color.

More likely a mob of Muslims out to vandalise a Hindu temple and stealing what obviously looked like gold.

Have you heard of the Somnath temple and how many times it was sacked?

The "religious" color will apply if it fits.

It is highly unlikely that a Hindu will steal the mukut of the resident deity of a mandir.

Rest assured, India is keeping tabs on the Hindus in Bangladesh and what is happening to them. The rope is long. Not infinite.

 

[Saif]

More likely a mob of Muslims out to vandalise a Hindu temple and stealing what obviously looked like gold.

Very unlikely. By the by, what happened to Babri Mosque in India?

Have you heard of the Somnath temple and how many times it was sacked?

Never heard of it.

The "religious" color will apply if it fits.

In this particular case you cannot apply religious color because it doesn't fit.

It is highly unlikely that a Hindu will steal the mukut of the resident deity of a mandir.

When did Hindu thieves become so God fearing?

Rest assured, India is keeping tabs on the Hindus in Bangladesh and what is happening to them. The rope is long. Not infinite.

Rest assured, Bangladesh is also keeping tabs on the Muslims in India and what is happening to them. The rope is long. Not infinite.

 

[Vsdoc]

Very unlikely. By the by, what happened to Babri Mosque in India?


Never heard of it.


In this particular case you cannot apply religious color because it doesn't fit.


When did Hindu thieves become so God fearing?


Rest assured, Bangladesh is also keeping tabs on the Muslims in India and what is happening to them. The rope is long. Not infinite.

Way more likely than a Hindu vandalizing and stealing from his own place of worship.

You are flailing ineffectually. Its obvious that this so-called revolution is being increasingly colored over with an Islamist tinge.

As I said, Bangladesh is playing with fire here if it thinks a Hindu pogrom will be tolerated silently by India.

 

[Saif]

Way more likely than a Hindu vandalizing and stealing from his own place of worship.

You are flailing ineffectually. Its obvious that this so-called revolution is being increasingly colored over with an Islamist tinge.

As I said, Bangladesh is playing with fire here if it thinks a Hindu pogrom will be tolerated silently by India.

Big talker...............paper tiger only roars on the internet.

 

[Bilal9]

More likely a mob of Muslims out to vandalise a Hindu temple and stealing what obviously looked like gold.

Have you heard of the Somnath temple and how many times it was sacked?

The "religious" color will apply if it fits.

It is highly unlikely that a Hindu will steal the mukut of the resident deity of a mandir.

Rest assured, India is keeping tabs on the Hindus in Bangladesh and what is happening to them. The rope is long. Not infinite.

There are plenty of Indian criminals who steal thousands if not ten thousands of entire deities (not just crown) in India from Mandirs themselves. What difference does it make if it is a Hindu or Muslim who steals it?

India’s Stolen Gods and Goddesses

The looting of India’s history continues: “We are estimating close to 10,000 major work of arts leaving India every decade.”

thediplomat.com

Again - let's bring the discussion on topic or I will be forced to close this thread.

 

[Saif]

Bangladesh rejects India’s baseless allegations

Bangladesh has responded to a statement made by the Indian government, noting that Dhaka finds such allegations baseless and assertions uncalled for. "The interim government would like to reassure the international community that it continues to do its best to uphold the long standing secular and

thefinancialexpress.com.bd

Bangladesh rejects India’s baseless allegations
UNB
Published :
Oct 14, 2024 20:10
Updated :
Oct 14, 2024 20:31

Bangladesh has responded to a statement made by the Indian government, noting that Dhaka finds such allegations baseless and assertions uncalled for.

"The interim government would like to reassure the international community that it continues to do its best to uphold the long standing secular and inclusive credentials of the people of Bangladesh," said the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Monday.

The ministry said the attention of the government has been drawn to a Statement by the spokesman of the Ministry of External Affairs of India on October 12, 2024, calling upon “….the Government of Bangladesh to ensure safety and security of Hindus and all minorities and their places of worship, especially during this auspicious festival time.”

The same statement also alleges “…a systemic pattern of desecration and damage to temples and deities…”. The Government of Bangladesh finds such allegations baseless and assertions uncalled for. Ensuring safety and security of all citizens, particularly the members of religious minorities, in Bangladesh remains a duty of the government of Bangladesh.

Upholding the rights of every citizen regardless of one’s identity, religion or faith must be recognised as an internal affair of Bangladesh," Bangladesh’s Foreign Ministry said.

There were just a handful of incidents reported on which the government authorities acted promptly in ensuring safety and security of Hindus and other minorities throughout the festival times, Dhaka said.

Communal harmony and peaceful coexistence remains a time-honoured feature of liberalism and democracy in Bangladesh uniting all people.

"The Government of Bangladesh attests in strongest terms that every individual regardless of his/her faith, religion or belief has the right to establish, maintain or perform respective religious rituals or practices, without any hindrance," the ministry said.

This was vindicated by peaceful observance of Durga Puja in over 32,000 Puja Mandaps that were spontaneously set up across Bangladesh.


On the reported theft of a golden crown at the Jeshoreshwari Kali temple in the southern Bangladesh district of Satkhira on 10th October 2024, it had been confirmed that the head priest performed his regular puja rites until 2:30 pm (afternoon) till which time the crown was intact inside the temple. Investigations are underway to determine as to why the priest and temple staff left such a precious possession unguarded and insecure, the ministry added.

Four people have already been arrested in connection with the theft case.​