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BJP and RSS are so cruel to Muslim that millions of Bangladeshis who have infiltrated in India do not want to go back to their native country with 90% Muslim population. No asylum seeker Muslims goes to any Islamic country but prefer to take refuge in Dar Al Herb.

This Bangladeshi Muslim infiltration narrative has never been proven, yet every BJP/RSS bhakt will repeat this ad-infinitum.

Even Awami Leaguers have debunked this theory from India.

The per capita GDP nominal of Bangladesh is higher than India and keeps on increasing compare to India.


It seems totally against logic that people from a country like Bangladesh with plenty of low level value addition jobs for export (shoes, clothes, toys, you-name-it) would instead move to a country like India which is at the same time poorer and having no jobs for poor people. Why would they?

@Krishna with Flute - I am going to hold you to your statements to be factual, meaning please do not post or state anything, without factual proof to support it.

Otherwise, I will be forced to edit your posts.
 
This Bangladeshi Muslim infiltration narrative has never been proven, yet every BJP/RSS bhakt will repeat this ad-infinitum.

Even Awami Leaguers have debunked this theory from India.

The per capita GDP nominal of Bangladesh is higher than India and keeps on increasing compare to India.


It seems totally against logic that people from a country like Bangladesh with plenty of low level value addition jobs for export (shoes, clothes, toys, you-name-it) would instead move to a country like India which is at the same time poorer and having no jobs for poor people. Why would they?

@Krishna with Flute - I am going to hold you to your statements to be factual, meaning please do not post or state anything, without factual proof to support it.

Otherwise, I will be forced to edit your posts.

If you have the guts, discuss like a rational person without sending messages in conversation regarding rule violation to which I can not reply/Response. I have not violated any rule. Do not expose typical mindset of discussing topic in public and sending messages in conversation. I have least interest in discussing in forum like this.
 
If you have the guts, discuss like a rational person without sending messages in conversation regarding rule violation to which I can not reply/Response. I have not violated any rule. Do not expose typical mindset of discussing topic in public and sending messages in conversation. I have least interest in discussing in forum like this.

Please do not use this forum to further Godi Media propaganda (without proof from credible sources). All such posts will be removed.

Please avoid threatening and confrontational language - this is an international forum, not anyone's living room.
 

India hasn't been able to accept the fall of Hasina's govt: Badruddin Umar
Staff Correspondent
Dhaka
Published: 19 Oct 2024, 22: 51

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Badruddin UmarFile photo

Badruddin Umar, a writer, researcher, politician, and president of the Jatiya Mukti Council, said India has not been able to accept the fall of Sheikh Hasina's government.

He stated that this is due to deteriorating relationships India has with all its neighbours, with only Bangladesh being treated as a subordinate state. Now this subordinate state has slipped out of India's hands.

During a discussion titled "July Mass Uprising: We Want Power in the Hands of the People, a People's Government, Constitution, and State," held at the National Press Club on Saturday, Umar pointed out that India has done what was necessary to keep Sheikh Hasina in power. The Jatiya Mukti Council organised it.

He noted that India feels uncomfortable providing her refuge and attempted to place her elsewhere, but ended up retaining her when no other country would take her.

Umar remarked that the Awami League has completely collapsed. He expressed disbelief in the possibility of the Awami League returning to power, comparing its current state to the demise of the Muslim League in 1954.

He described the recent mass uprising as the most extensive, profound, and aggressive since the events of 1952. Umar attributed this to unprecedented levels of oppression and torture over the last 15 and half years, which have turned elections into a farce. While there was public discontent, there was no opportunity for protest.

Regarding the term "second independence" being used for the changes resulting from the uprising, Umar dismissed it as absurd. He asserted that Bangladesh gained independence in 1971, and this uprising did not create a new state.

Umar also talked about the destruction of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's statues and the burning of his home after Sheikh Hasina’s flight in the face of the uprising.

He referred a recent article by Mahfuz Anam, editor of the Daily Star, which argued that it is inappropriate to associate Sheikh Mujib with Sheikh Hasina's misrule.

Umar countered that it was Sheikh Hasina who has linked everything back to her father, including propaganda against him, leading to protests that were not solely against Hasina's government but also against Mujib.

He supported the cancellation of holidays on significant days, such as 15 August and 7 March, questioning why 15 August should remain a holiday.

He mentioned that there are no holidays in honour of leaders like Indira Gandhi and Abraham Lincoln, who were assassinated.

Umar raised questions about calling Sheikh Mujibur Rahman the "Father of the Nation," noting that the people of this country have twice voted against him. He pointed out that no one came out in his defense after his assassination on 15 August 1975.

He called for an assessment of what Sheikh Mujib accomplished in the three and a half years after independence, asserting that his true identity was revealed only when he was in power. Umar highlighted the recent public actions against Mujib's statues as a verdict against him.

Regarding the interim government led by Muhammad Yunus, Umar argued that it did not just appear all of a sudden. It was a response to the power vacuum created after Hasina's government was ousted.

He stated that without this government, the only alternative would have been military rule, questioning whether those criticizing the interim government would prefer military rule instead.

Umar advocated for a new constitution that aligns with current realities, noting the limitations of the interim government. He remarked that the class benefiting from Sheikh Hasina’s rule still exists and mentioned that both the BNP and Jamaat-e-Islami are political parties representing that class.

He expressed skepticism that the current government could bring about change in the people's conditions, stating that even if the BNP were elected, they would not have solved all problems. He emphasized that true equality cannot be achieved without class struggle.

Umar pointed out that the current government has failed to control rising commodity prices, suggesting that rationing is the only viable solution.
He criticized attempts to end student politics in educational institutions as "madness," asserting that the political violence practiced by the Awami League must cease.

Other leaders of the Jatiya Mukti Council including its secretary Faizul Hakim, also spoke at the event.​
 

India need not worry about Bangladesh's minorities, Nahid tells BBC Hindi

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BBC Hindi aired an interview today with Nahid Islam, interim government's adviser for Information and Broadcasting, where he discussed minority protection, India-Bangladesh relations, and recent communal violence. Following is an excerpt.

Question: India frequently raises concerns about the safety of your minorities. What's your view on this?

Nahid Islam:
The minorities in Bangladesh are our citizens, and it's our responsibility to ensure their safety. India doesn't need to worry about them. India should focus on the violence that took place last July-August. The question might be, what kind of support can India offer to Bangladesh in facing these challenges? This is where discussions should be focused. I would also like to mention that the Indian media has been spreading false information about our government, and India should address this. We want discussions based on facts and aimed at improving relations.

Question: You mentioned India's need to clarify its stance on what happened here in July-August. Could you elaborate?

Nahid Islam:
We would like to know how India views the July-August violence committed by the Awami League. Some countries have shown support for the people of Bangladesh, but India has remained silent. Additionally, India has provided refuge to a person who is directly linked to these incidents.

Question: Are you saying India is overlooking the recent violence in Bangladesh?

Nahid Islam:
If India genuinely empathizes with those who lost loved ones, the people of Bangladesh will see that positively. I would like India's support in ensuring that legal action is taken against those responsible for these acts of violence.

Question: In August, India urged all parties to show restraint. Meanwhile, some minority groups have reported severe mistreatment over the past three months. We've visited several areas and spoken to victims who say they can't trust the authorities. Are you aware of this, and if so, what are your thoughts?

Nahid Islam:
Yes, we are fully aware of what's happened and of the hardships people have endured. It's important to remember that without timely action, things could have been much worse. For example, during Durga Puja, there were warnings of potential violence. We deployed enough law enforcers, and the celebrations went peacefully. Our government has engaged with the minority communities and assured them of their safety.

Question: Some minority groups feel that, despite reassurances, enough action wasn't taken.

Nahid Islam:
I would argue that no previous government has worked as closely with minority communities as we have over the past three months. Past governments have used these issues for political gains, eroding the trust of minority communities. We are trying to restore this trust. However, some issues require time to resolve.

Question: There are concerns that after the Awami League government's departure, extremist groups may gain strength, posing security risks for both Bangladesh and India.

Nahid Islam:
The people of Bangladesh do not support extremist groups or violence. Bangladeshis want a democratic government. What you're saying reflects a narrative promoted by the Awami League, suggesting that without them, extremist groups would grow. The Awami League has ruled for many years, and India has supported this viewpoint. But the question is, why should Bangladesh's internal politics impact its relationship with India? If India truly built its relationship with the people of Bangladesh and not just with the Awami League, this wouldn't be an issue. For example, we don't question who is in power in India, whether it's the BJP or Congress. The same principle should apply here -- relations should not hinge on whether the Awami League is in power.

Question: The different projects undertaken between India and Bangladesh will benefit both countries and the people of Bangladesh or would it only benefit the Awami League? What's your perspective on this?

Nahid Islam:
This shouldn't be seen from the Awami League's perspective. If both countries support each other, it's possible to accomplish good work for both. We haven't cut off relations with any country or stopped any projects. Everything is proceeding as before.

Question: It has been said that Bangladesh is reviewing its investments with India. Can you update us on this review? Do you think talks between the two countries could resume?

Nahid Islam:
Yes, we are reviewing projects, but this isn't limited to India. We're evaluating projects with all countries, examining areas that may be vulnerable to corruption or areas that may not benefit Bangladesh.​
 

Dhaka urges Delhi to prevent Bangladesh’s ousted PM Hasina from making political statements
Staff Correspondent 14 November, 2024, 18:38

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Toufique Hasan, director general of Public Diplomacy Wing, speaks to the media during weekly briefing at foreign affairs ministry in Dhaka on Thursday. | BSS photo
Dhaka has conveyed to New Delhi that deposed prime minister Sheikh Hasina after fleeing to India was making political statements frequently allegedly by using cellphone and internet facilities from there and Bangladesh was not taking it well.

‘After fleeing the country to India on August 5, the ousted prime minister has been staying in India and issuing political statements from there. We have conveyed our government’s discontent over the issue to the Indian High Commissioner in Dhaka on several occasions,’ foreign ministry’s public diplomacy wing director general Toufique Hasan said.

He said that Sheikh Hasina should have been stopped from making such political statements being published in the media for maintaining a relation of mutual respect between two neighbouring countries.

Responding to a question at the weekly briefing at the ministry, he said that Bangladesh had already expressed strong discontent over deposed prime minister Sheikh Hasina’s frequent political statements while staying in India and urged the Indian government to prevent her from such activities in the perspective of historic relation between the two countries.

Asked whether there was any reply from the Indian side, the foreign ministry spokesperson said that Dhaka did not get any formal reply from New Delhi on the matter.

The Indian high commission, however, assured them that they would look into the issue, he added.

Asked about the process of extradition of Sheikh Hasina from India since she was now facing an arrest warrant from the International Crimes Tribunal on allegations of committing crimes against humanity during the July-August mass uprising, Hasan said that the foreign ministry had not yet received any request from the relevant ministry.

‘We would take necessary steps if we receive any directive from the ministry concerned to repatriate her,’ he added.

On the issue of issuance of Indian visas for Bangladeshis, Hasan said that the government had communicated with the Indian authorities on the matter, but they had said that they halted processing of visas of some categories due to shortage of manpower.

He, however, said that the foreign ministry was working to ensure that Bangladeshi students, who now need to travel to India to obtain third-country visas, could acquire their visas from alternative countries such as Vietnam, Indonesia and Pakistan.​
 

ভারত আর আওয়ামী লীগকে চায় না, হাসিনার ক'ফি'নে শেষ পেরেক দিয়েছে: মেজর জেনারেল ফজলুর রহমান


 

ভারত আর আওয়ামী লীগকে চায় না, হাসিনার ক'ফি'নে শেষ পেরেক দিয়েছে: মেজর জেনারেল ফজলুর রহমান





@Vsdoc @Bilal9

Bengali language used here. You are quick to block Hindi and Hinglish posts but will you act on this? Will you display neutrality or impartiality?

Only time will tell. We will see.
 
@Vsdoc @Bilal9

Bengali language used here. You are quick to block Hindi and Hinglish posts but will you act on this? Will you display neutrality or impartiality?

Only time will tell. We will see.

Thank you for reporting.

Please continue to do so in case I miss these. I will take it up with the admins and see that this adda culture is stamped out.
 
Misinformation campaigns and the future of Bangladesh-India relations

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VISUAL: SALMAN SAKIB SHAHRYAR

After the fall of former Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina last week, Bangladesh was thrown into a critical state of instability and uncertainty. There was no government till Dr Muhammad Yunus took oath as the chief adviser of the interim government on August 8. During this period, the country saw an outburst of violence and crime, which was the outcome of both pent-up political frustration against the ruling party of 15 years and the result of some bigotry, and the machinations of bad actors trying to take advantage of the lawlessness for personal gains. One of the most dangerous situations that can happen in a country is the chaos, crime, and destruction that take place after an authoritarian force is forced to abdicate. Unfortunately, Bangladesh is in such a situation.

However, this issue is not just a domestic phenomenon. Several influential groups inside Bangladesh's largest neighbour have taken the initiative to create a narrative that this momentary lawlessness caused by the thoughtless abdication of the former prime minister is the prelude of a Bangladesh where bigotry and religious fundamentalism are going to flare up.

The main platform where such notions are being sensationalised at the moment is X, formerly known as Twitter. Many verified accounts on X are reporting rumours as actual news and sometimes just outright propagating fake news. What's worse is that this propagation of fake news has also been noted in Indian mainstream media, as well as among popular Indian social media personalities.

It is true that there have been concerning reports of violence against minority communities. Bangladesh Hindu Buddhist Christian Oikya Parishad reported 205 incidents of persecution of members of minority communities across 52 districts. Gobinda Pramanik, general secretary of Bangladesh National Hindu Mahajot, recently made a video statement about the matter, in which he said that, after Sheikh Hasina's resignation on August 5, the Hindu community in Bangladesh thought they would be attacked in a massive way and there would be incidents of arson. According to the general secretary, houses of some Hindu leaders of the Awami League who were very active, as well as those of some Muslim leaders, were attacked. He also stated that some opportunistic people attacked a few local temples. Coordinators of the anti-discrimination student movement called for protection of the minority communities, which was answered by many. Leaders of BNP, Jamaat and other parties, too, instructed their functionaries to ensure that Hindu homes were not attacked and temples were protected.

But against this backdrop, we saw Republic TV from India spreading rumours and making strange claims.

The West Bengal Police, in a statement posted from its official Facebook page, stated that the way some local TV channels are reporting on the current situation in Bangladesh is clearly communally inflammatory and against the norms of the Press Council of India. The West Bengal Police urged viewers to exercise their own judgement when viewing this type of coverage and keep in mind that the authenticity of the footage shown by the channel is not verified by any neutral third party. They requested people not to fall into the trap of one-sided, hateful and misleading propaganda.

The sudden upsurge in misinformation and disinformation on Indian social media coincidentally aligns with a seemingly coordinated rise in criminal activities and vandalism all over Bangladesh. Inside the country, some people are also taking to social media and calling this another attempt by pro-AL forces in India, as well as RAW, to fabricate a narrative of communalism in order to plunge Bangladesh into further unrest and instability. Needless to say, there is no evidence for any of this. Rumours beget rumours. This kind of misinformation treadmill needs to be stopped immediately lest it leads to further instances of violence, and makes the people-to-people divide between Bangladesh and India even worse.

Although it seems the Indian authorities have overtly asked for people to stop propagating fake news regarding what is happening in Bangladesh, there are many in India who firmly believe that Bangladesh is about to fall under a fundamentalist rule the moment the next general elections are held. It almost feels like, with the fall of Sheikh Hasina, some elements in India are behaving as though India has suffered a great loss. It is my humble opinion that, instead of immediately choosing to take the easily monetisable culture-war talking points, the enlightened Indian cultural leaders should first push for a democratic Bangladesh where actual political discourse can take place without fear of getting killed or disappeared by security forces. The people of Bangladesh don't need to be kept "in check" by a convenient autocrat. That is the narrative of a now-disgraced political party that has proven to lie repeatedly to the people and the world to keep power. The people of India must not fall for this narrative ever again.

India must realise the shortcomings of its foreign policy regarding Bangladesh. These should be fundamental lessons from history. Never trust a dictator to keep power. A robust and mature democracy is the only reliable international partner. Right now, India needs to revamp its approach towards Bangladesh entirely. Now is the time for genuine track 2 diplomacy. It is time for genuine people-to-people relations to ensure long-term, sustainable friendship with its most significant geostrategic partner. And this kind of change must start at home.

Zillur Rahman is the executive director of the Centre for Governance Studies (CGS) and a television talk show host.​
 

Regime change in Bangladesh: The fallout for India

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Did Bangladeshs inevitable neighbour follow even a rule of its own best interest in underscoring the dynastic autocracy in Bangladesh? PHOTO: PID

Vladimir Lenin, after all, was right. Sometimes, there are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen. Glory to the martyrs and vanguards of Bangladesh who made it to a possible democracy once more!

In Bangladesh, August is apparently a month when decades happen. Karl Marx famously said, "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." If the fall of the BAKSAL (Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League) regime in August 1975 was a tragedy, the boisterous exit of the regime this August is a repetition, this time as a farce. The free fall of the regime is a relief for many; however, there are also darker clouds around in the horizon.

The odds are no less apparent. One of these concerns India, the nation-state's largest neighbour. The facts around the number one superpower, the US, are another concern. But I can't deal with the second topic in this space. Let me rather stay with only India today.

To some, the events of July-August, for all their valour and glory may tell the same old story. But it is not exactly a void in which they disgorge.

The coup d'état of 1975 was organised clandestinely. It was a civilian-military combined effort. There is good evidence that it was sustained by a Western power. The current conjuncture seems to involve a broad coalition of radical forces led by university students, sustained by the support of a cross-section of civil society, political parties and the so-called international community. The fallout now is more uncertain than ever, at least compared to what it was a half century earlier.

The Awami League regime in 1975 under Sheikh Mujibur Rahman had gone berserk with its one nation one leader "mantra". In 2024, the daughter's regime only went wilder with its sheer ruthlessness. History repeated itself.

It is perhaps too early to say what awaits us even in the not-too-distant future. A doubt pops up, nevertheless. What is the nature of the August 5 revolution? Is it a popular revolution like the French Revolution flying the banner of equality, human dignity, and social justice? Or is it to prove a coup d'etat of sorts, an 18th Brumaire of civil society, midwifed by the "international community", tailored by the armed forces? How different is it going to be from the events of January 11, 2007, events welcomed by the country's biggest neighbour, India? We hardly learn from history. That seems to be the only takeaway from history's department stores.

One does not choose from an empty set. Not a neighbour, at any rate. Nations act, as everyone knows, not as philanthropists or cynics but in their own best interest. Did Bangladesh's inevitable neighbour follow even a rule of its own best interest in underscoring the dynastic autocracy in Bangladesh? Was that the best option it had had? Will it learn a lesson, in all candour, this turnaround? These are questions best left to political pundits in India and beyond.

For us, citizens and denizens of Bangladesh, it is more of a single-payer option. India's unabashed selfishness in promoting a regime that clearly violated all rules of liberal democracy proves highly short-sighted, more now than ever.

What alternatives did India have to choose from is not apparent, or not well-known in any case. But it may even be non-transparent. In 1975, India blatantly ignored its lower riparian neighbour in claiming the Ganga-Padma as a virtually all-India domestic watercourse. That it is an international river, it apparently forgot then. India's stance on other watercourses changed little since then. The waters of the Teesta and many other common international rivers don't flow quietly anymore.

Border killings on a rhythmic scale are not simply a mystic symbol of India's political muscle but of its myopic nature. It is a bizarre thing: "India's Bangladesh Problem," as one pundit called it. Termites, they call their unhandsome neighbours.

India's China obsession, at least ever since her war with China in 1962, could have misled it to its Bangladesh policy. But a people who didn't put up with Pakistan's proto-colonial repressive regime of two and a half decades can hardly be expected (let alone taken for granted) to welcome such a proverbial "subsidiary alliance" as India desires to perpetrate on Bangladesh.

The latest regime change in the wake of a popular mass uprising should provide an occasion to rethink future relations between the two sovereign neighbours in South Asia, adorned by the common historical legacy of many centuries.

The immiseration of one neighbour for the benefit of the other can only be sustained by such regimes as the just fallen one in Bangladesh. India is a habitat, nay a breeding ground, of proverbial wise men. I am sure they will not be deluded by dreams of "Akhand Hindustan". That simply will not work.

The regime change of August 2024 may also provide an occasion to reflect on the question of national identity, a question the think tanks of national security (or regional imperialism if you like) can only ignore at their own peril.

Let history not repeat a second tragedy. The regime change in Dhaka, apparently, will enjoy the blessings of the "international community". But it is unlikely to work well if India does not think today what forces of circumstances will force it to think tomorrow.

India's best interest may perhaps lie in strengthening a new democracy in Bangladesh. At any rate, not obstructing democratic aspirations of a new generation in its eastward neighbourhood is the key point.

Dr Salimullah Khan is professor of general education at the University of Liberal Arts.​
 

Dhaka slams desecration of nat’l flag in Kolkata
Decries violent protest outside its mission

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The government yesterday strongly condemned the desecration of Bangladesh's national flag and the burning of Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus's effigy in Kolkata as "deplorable acts".

The foreign ministry in a statement decried the violent protests outside the Deputy High Commission of Bangladesh in the West Bengal capital.

Expressing "deep concern" over the incident, the ministry called upon the Indian government to take necessary measures to prevent such occurrences.

It also urged New Delhi to ensure the safety and security of all the diplomatic missions of Bangladesh in India as well as its diplomats and non-diplomatic members of staff.

A large group of protesters participated in the demonstration in the evening, organised by a Kolkata-based Hindu organisation "Bongio Hindu Jagran".

The protest turned violent as the demonstrators broke through police barricades and reached the boundaries of the Bangladesh Deputy High Commission, according to the foreign ministry statement.

"They set fire to the national flag of Bangladesh and burned the effigy of the Hon'ble Chief Adviser of the Government of Bangladesh," the statement said.

Although the situation seems to be under control at the moment, there is a prevailing sense of insecurity among all the members of the Deputy High Commission, it added.​
 

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