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Made In China, Failed In Pakistan: From Missiles, Radars To Air Defence System, How Operation Sindoor Exposed Dragon-Backed Weapons​

Nearly 82% of Pakistan’s defense imports originate from China.​

Written By Tarique Anwar|Last Updated: May 19, 2025, 09:28 PM IST|Source: Bureau

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Made In China, Failed In Pakistan: From Missiles, Radars To Air Defence System, How Operation Sindoor Exposed Dragon-Backed Weapons
Wreckage of Chinese-made Pakistani defence displayed at an official military briefing
New Delhi: Operation Sindoor not only marked a decisive military and strategic victory for India but also exposed vulnerabilities within Pakistan’s armed forces, particularly linked to their heavy reliance on Chinese-supplied military hardware. This conflict, according to reports, served as a real-world test for Chinese defense technology against a combination of Indian and Western platforms that revealed a pattern of system failures and underperformance.


With nearly 82% of Pakistan’s defense imports originating from China, the operation put these systems to the test under intense combat conditions. Indian forces successfully targeted key Pakistani military and terror infrastructure, overcoming or bypassing Chinese-origin air defense systems such as the HQ-9 – which failed to intercept Indian missile strikes, including those delivered BrahMos missiles system.



Ranging from PL-15 air-to-air missiles to J-10C fighter jets and naval frigates, other Chinese-supplied systems were also reported to have malfunctioned or underperformed during the conflict. It left Pakistani defenses compromised and unable to effectively respond to India’s offensive.

The operational setbacks experienced by these Chinese weapons have had broader repercussions beyond the immediate battlefield. The inability of these systems to deliver under combat conditions has impacted China’s reputation as a global arms exporter and reinforced longstanding concerns about the quality and reliability of Chinese military equipment.

Analysts said these failures validate earlier skepticism regarding Chinese defense technology and may accelerate the decline in China’s arms exports, which had already been shrinking due to quality issues. The credibility gap exposed by ā€˜Operation Sindoor’ also provides a strategic opening for other arms manufacturers, including India, to emphasise their own combat-proven reliability.

Observations, Incidents of Failure

Air Defense Systems (HQ-9, HQ-16/LY-80): The reports indicate the complete failure of Pakistan’s Chinese-made air defense systems to intercept Indian aircraft or missiles effectively. Indian forces successfully bypassed and jammed Pakistani air defense units, including those protecting important military installations. Questions have been raised about these systems’ detection and response capabilities – particularly against advanced Indian and Western technology.

Some Chinese nationals too reportedly criticised the Pakistani operators on social media, attributing failures to inadequate training and operational inefficiencies.

Air-to-Air Missiles (PL-15): Marketed as a rival to Western systems like the American AIM-120D, the Chinese PL-15 beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile reportedly failed to hit targets or malfunctioned mid-flight. Indian military officials displayed recovered fragments of a PL-15 missile in Hoshiarpur that had missed its target, casting doubt on its combat effectiveness.

While some pro-Chinese media sources attempted to claim PL-15 successes, these claims lacked independent verification and were largely dismissed as propaganda.

CM-400AKG Air-to-Surface Missile: The CM-400AKG air-to-surface missile, touted as a ā€œcarrier killerā€, was detected early by Indian surveillance systems such as Netra and AWACS. Despite its speed, it lacks stealth features and terminal maneuverability – making it vulnerable to spoofing and jamming.

Fighter Jets (J-10C, JF-17): Pakistan deployed Chinese-made J-10C and JF-17 Block III fighter jets equipped with PL-15 missiles during the operation. However, these jets reportedly failed to significantly impede or deter Indian airstrikes.

Claims by Pakistani and Chinese sources, cited in media reports, that J-10C aircraft downed multiple Indian jets, including Rafales, remain unverified with no debris or evidence presented. Analysts generally regarded the Chinese jets’ performance against Indian aircraft – a mix of Russian and Western platforms – as ineffective.

Radar Systems: An Indian Air Force strike reportedly destroyed a Chinese-supplied YLC-8E anti-stealth radar at the Chunian Air Base in Punjab – exposing further vulnerabilities in China’s air defense offerings to Pakistan.

AR-1 Guided Missile (Deployed via Wing Loong-II Drones): The AR-1 is a Chinese laser-guided air-to-surface missile typically deployed from unmanned aerial vehicles like the Wing Loong-II drone.

Pakistan utilised these drones during the conflict, but Indian air defenses successfully intercepted or neutralised AR-1 missiles before they could hit targets. The missile’s failure highlights deficiencies against well-established Indian defense networks.

Chinese-Origin Drones: Pakistan employed various Chinese-origin drones for reconnaissance and offensive roles during the conflict. Indian forces intercepted and neutralised several drones, with wreckage displayed at official briefings.

These interceptions raise questions about the drones’ stealth capabilities and operational effectiveness in contested airspace.

Reliability and Quality Concerns

The conflict exposed fundamental vulnerabilities in the reliability and combat effectiveness of Chinese military technology despite Beijing’s aggressive marketing as a credible alternative to Western and Russian arms suppliers. Reports indicate frequent defects in critical components, poor quality control and inadequate after-sales support.

Past instances of malfunctioning Chinese military equipment sold to other countries – including faulty frigates for the Pakistan Navy and issues with fighter jets in Nigeria and Myanmar – point to a recurring pattern of quality problems.

Netizens’ Reactions

Across social media, netizens from China and other regions displayed mixed reactions. Some blamed Pakistani operational shortcomings rather than the hardware itself, while others expressed frustration over the exposed failures.

The debate highlighted how the weapons’ poor performance has become a sensitive topic, with some attempts to spin or downplay the deficiencies.

Meanwhile, Indian observers and analysts have pointed to the conflict as a proof point for India’s growing defense manufacturing capabilities and the reliability of its own systems.
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Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality. Quality humiliation is normal in China.

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China is always very famous for quality. They made the car and announced that it is amongst the top car of the catagory. When put to test, It scored 0/5 in crash test. Normal for China. Chinese quality. Humiliation is consider a great honor in China. Unless they are humiliated, they feel abnormal.

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3 years old news. Chinese are not good enough to make Good car. They are good for low cost parts only. China copied BMW. When car was sent for crash test, it scored 0/5 in crash test like their HQ9 and HQ16 and PL 15.

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3 years old news. Chinese are not good enough to make Good car. They are good for low cost parts only. China copied BMW. When car was sent for crash test, it scored 0/5 in crash test like their HQ9 and HQ16 and PL 15.
Don't be angry. I'm just humiliating you anytime, anywhere.

We humans ask. Can Indian made Tejas fly now?

Your joke does not affect the J-10C shot down the Rafale.

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Different from Indian propaganda. In the real world. Indians are very clever in not trusting 'Made in India'.


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What is' Made in India '

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Don't be angry. I'm just humiliating you anytime, anywhere.

We humans ask. Can Indian made Tejas fly now?

Your joke does not affect the J-10C shot down the Rafale.
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J 10 and JF 17 couldn't even airborne on 9 th and 10th to counter massive Indian Air attack which demolished 11 Pakistani air bases. Pakistan shift them far away and hide them to save them from the attack of mighty Indian planes. On 7th, What J10c could target was sand of Rajasthan. PL 15 is dismantled and data is share with Japan and US. China has requested to return it citing UN convention. Great humiliation of China as usual.

We have successfully tested long range anti ship hyper sonic cruise missile. We shall target Chinese ships in South China sea from Indian soil.

Stop making those jumk ships. We shall require only one missile to send them to the bottom of the see like your nuke submarine which is resting in the bottom of the sea. Don't message with your daddy India you 4 feeters.
 
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Russian bike enthusiast test drives Bajaj pulsar 200 and Chinese Lifan 200.

He Says that if Chinese bike improves breaking, handling and engine performance, it can be a bike for beginners.

He said that pulsar is highly maneuverable. It is a dream bike. If a thought comes in your mind to turn the bike, it takes turn. Excellent breaking. This bike is for hooliganism. The only issue with the bike is that you crash it in enthusiasm of fast driving. No comparison between the two. He said Pulsar 200 has Japanese and German quality at Chinese price.

The difference between substandard Chinese quality and world beating Indian quality. Quality humiliation is normal in China.

Chinese bike vs pulsar Indiworld - Search Videos


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China is always very famous for quality. They made the car and announced that it is amongst the top car of the catagory. When put to test, It scored 0/5 in crash test. Normal for China. Chinese quality. Humiliation is consider a great honor in China. Unless they are humiliated, they feel abnormal.

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China makes up 30 per cent of India’s auto component import

NEW DELHI: China still accounts for the majority of automotive component imports in India with its share coming at 30% in the financial year 2022-23, according
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3 years old news. Chinese are not good enough to make Good car. They are good for low cost parts only. China copied BMW. When car was sent for crash test, it scored 0/5 in crash test like their HQ9 and HQ16 and PL 15.

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Don't be angry. I'm just humiliating you anytime, anywhere.

We humans ask. Can Indian made Tejas fly now?

Your joke does not affect the J-10C shot down the Rafale.

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Due to the lack of technical support from China. Indian made fighter jets cannot fly.


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Different from Indian propaganda. In the real world. Indians are very clever in not trusting 'Made in India'.


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Can Indians convince the Indian Air Force to believe in 'Made in India' in the real world?


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What is' Made in India '

If there is Chinese technical support. It works...

If there is no Chinese technical support. It doesn't work....

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J 10 and JF 17 couldn't even airborne on 9 th and 10th to counter massive Indian Air attack which demolished 11 Pakistani air bases. Pakistan shift them far away and hide them to save them from the attack of mighty Indian planes. On 7th, What J10c could target was sand of Rajasthan. PL 15 is dismantled and data is share with Japan and US. China has requested to return it citing UN convention. Great humiliation of China as usual.

We have successfully tested long range anti ship hyper sonic cruise missile. We shall target Chinese ships in South China sea from Indian soil.

Stop making those jumk ships. We shall require only one missile to send them to the bottom of the see like your nuke submarine which is resting in the bottom of the sea. Don't message with your daddy India you 4 feeters.
make in india

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Indian height.

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The toad croaks yet again guys.......Ye dono milay huway hain........Iran aur India.........bilkul khamoshi say chup chaap kaam ho ra hae. Actually I'm not surprised at all. Its not some holy grail revelation k India nay tang aa kar US/ China dono k assets tabah kar diye hain Pakistan main:



@Vsdoc @Krishna with Flute @Sharma Ji @Guru Dutt @Bilal9 @Saif @Bagheera0084 @Mainerik

This can have far reaching consequences folks.......aur ye India/ Iranndd secret alliance ager discover howee, to iss k far reaching consequences hongay!.........Dis can't come out in de open.

Pata nahi kitna khaam tail/ gas India chup chaap Iran say lay ra hae paying in barter (anaaj/ chai etc). Both India n Iran are very slick........bewquff to hum hain sucking the Hillbilly provided ISPR lollypop.

So foolish we pakistani are no?


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Where did you get the courage to label me?🤣🤣🤣

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Does your bunch of nonsense make any sense?🤣

If India loses one fighter plane, it is bad news but after losing a dozen Chinese planes, half a dozen Chinese air defence, jamming of Chinese supplied Radars, loosing of 100s of Chinese Drones, there is no bad news for China. Even on the 9th and 10th, no Chinese planes airborned to intercept Indian planes which hit 11 Pakistani air base nor Pakistan could counter Indian Navy.

That is not bad news for China as it is normal to get humiliated for Chinese. They are used to humiliation because of substandard goods they supplied across the world.
 
The toad croaks yet again guys.......Ye dono milay huway hain........Iran aur India.........bilkul khamoshi say chup chaap kaam ho ra hae. Actually I'm not surprised at all. Its not some holy grail revelation k India nay tang aa kar US/ China dono k assets tabah kar diye hain Pakistan main:



@Vsdoc @Krishna with Flute @Sharma Ji @Guru Dutt @Bilal9 @Saif @Bagheera0084 @Mainerik

This can have far reaching consequences folks.......aur ye India/ Iranndd secret alliance ager discover howee, to iss k far reaching consequences hongay!.........Dis can't come out in de open.

Pata nahi kitna khaam tail/ gas India chup chaap Iran say lay ra hae paying in barter (anaaj/ chai etc). Both India n Iran are very slick........bewquff to hum hain sucking the Hillbilly provided ISPR lollypop.

So foolish we pakistani are no?


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Israel has attacked Iran.

Top ranking military chiefs killed.

Nuclear sites hit?
 

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