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[🇵🇰] Pakistan’s political climate shaken by pro-Khan tweets from Trump’s choice for special missions envoy

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Short Summary: Grenell has held several prominent positions, including U.S. ambassador to Germany, special presidential envoy for Serbia and Kosovo peace negotiations, and acting director of national intelligence during the first Trump administration from 2017 to 2021. His pro-Khan tweets have led to speculation regarding their potential implications for Pakistan's political landscape.
Very unfortunately, such an ecosystem is created in Pakistan where you can do anything in the name of Islam. No matter whosoever comes to power, it won't work. A military general or dictator only can make Pakistan batter. The diverse fundamentalism in Pakistan can only be handled with brutal power. I do not see any hope in Pakistan though I wish Pakistan to be a prosperous country.
You take Islam out of the equation and the whole narrative collapses overnight. Its an existential issue for us.
 
You take Islam out of the equation and the whole narrative collapses overnight. Its an existential issue for us.
MBS is doing in Al Saudia

immense popularity gaining, I'm told

*&*&*& religion, man.. but paisey kamao.. holy poly sites etc le ke..

This great facade needs to fall, fuckin' nobody care for Allah, Krishna, Jesus and whatever this that bc

Paitoo @Paitoo
 
MBS is doing in Al Saudia

immense popularity gaining, I'm told

&&*& religion, man.. but paisey kamao.. holy poly sites etc le ke..

This great facade needs to fall, fuckin' nobody care for Allah, Krishna, Jesus and whatever this that bc

Paitoo @Paitoo
Bhai sawdis get $30k per year free money just sitting around like a warm body. Their population is absolutely no threat to the western installed and run state apparatus.

However, here we are bhai, one payment short on the quarterly IMF/WB installment and the wheels come off the rickety carriage. Throw in 200 million bhookay nungay surviving on daal roti chutney only and it would be a disaster.

If we collapse, god forbid……it will become a massive headache for India. Xenophobc Iran do minatt main border seal kar day ga and afghani will do the same.
 
Pakistan is the most dangerous collapse imaginable... those aatmi ones, breh ! aiaiyaaa!!!

I read somewhere ki US super duper secret special forces are ready to storm and takeover things if things get weird.

Those 1st-SFOD and DEVGRU lot actually train with these sorts of scenarios in mind.

mind it

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Nehru laid down a solid foundation for yous no?.....He set yous up for success.

In our case we never had a Nehru no? All we got after Ayub Khan were a bunch of mofo's who didn't give a fukk! except for their bank balance.......

This is correct. Ayub Khan did have a modernized vision for Pakistan (personally I am an admirer). However on the foreign policy side, his blunders did not spell well - leading to involvement of Bhutto and Yahya Khan in power (and we all know where that led). But Ayub Khan's economic policies were highly visible in many projects even in East Pakistan. He was no less a reformer than Nehru.

"One of the major milestones of Ayub Khan’s presidency was the promulgation of the Constitution of Pakistan in 1962. The new constitution, while respecting Islam, did not declare it as the state religion and provided for the election of the president by a select group of Basic Democracy under Ayub’s control. Additionally, Ayub Khan introduced the Muslim Family Law Ordinance in 1961, which aimed to reform marriage and divorce laws, reflecting his vision of modernization and progress.

Economically, Ayub Khan’s era is remembered for successful industrialization and rural development, with a strong emphasis on capitalism and foreign direct investment. The “Decade of Development” under his rule saw the establishment of various mega projects and hydroelectric dams, contributing to significant GDP growth. However, despite the economic progress, his policies led to a concentration of wealth in the hands of a few influential families, raising concerns about income inequality."

This was the case with Nehru's license Raj as well, his friends (people like Jumnalal Bajaj, Raghunandan Saran of Ashok Motors and business families like the Hindujas) all benefitted from friendships with Nehru.

These are a few of Ayub Khan Saab's projects in East Pakistan that comes to mind. Which were five/six decades ahead of their time.

1. Dhaka Int'l Airport (currently known as Hazrat Shahjalal Int'l Airport) was started in 1966, the new 3rd terminal in the forefront was added recently. "Aeroports de France" was the main contractor in 1966 but this continued after 1971 by the Bangladesh govt.
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2.National Parliament House, Dhaka, Bangladesh designed by renowned architect Louis Kahn: One of the Largest Legislative Complexes globally. Project started in 1961.​

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3. Kaptai Dam and hydroelectric project (construction started in 1957 and completed in 1962)
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4. Khulna Shipyard was founded in 1957 as a German-designed shipyard where most of Bangladesh' advanced semi-stealth LPCs are made and fitted for sensors now (Frigate construction are planned at some point). The shipyard has the capacity to build steel / aluminum ships up to 90 m length and 5000 DWT. It is the primary contractor for all govt. specialized vessels such as Submarine and Buoy tenders, ASW patrol craft, High Bollard power Fleet coastal tugs, Hydrographic survey vessels, Inshore and Offshore patrol vessels, dredgers and self-propelled floating cranes of various capacities. It is one of the three largest shipbuilding yards in Bangladesh.

So - Ayub Khan as a visionary did his level best for Pakistan and Pakistanyat. I hope Imran Khan hopefully does the same.
 
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This is correct. Ayub Khan did have a modernized vision for Pakistan (personally I am an admirer). However on the foreign policy side, his blunders did not spell well - leading to involvement of Bhutto and Yahya Khan in power (and we all know where that led). But Ayub Khan's economic policies were highly visible in many projects even in East Pakistan. He was no less a reformer than Nehru.

"One of the major milestones of Ayub Khan’s presidency was the promulgation of the Constitution of Pakistan in 1962. The new constitution, while respecting Islam, did not declare it as the state religion and provided for the election of the president by a select group of Basic Democracy under Ayub’s control. Additionally, Ayub Khan introduced the Muslim Family Law Ordinance in 1961, which aimed to reform marriage and divorce laws, reflecting his vision of modernization and progress.

Economically, Ayub Khan’s era is remembered for successful industrialization and rural development, with a strong emphasis on capitalism and foreign direct investment. The “Decade of Development” under his rule saw the establishment of various mega projects and hydroelectric dams, contributing to significant GDP growth. However, despite the economic progress, his policies led to a concentration of wealth in the hands of a few influential families, raising concerns about income inequality."

This was the case with Nehru's license Raj as well, his friends (people like Jumnalal Bajaj, Raghunandan Saran of Ashok Motors and business families like the Hindujas) all benefitted from friendships with Nehru.

These are a few of Ayub Khan Saab's projects in East Pakistan that comes to mind. Which were five/six decades ahead of their time.

1. Dhaka Int'l Airport (currently known as Hazrat Shahjalal Int'l Airport) was started in 1966, the new 3rd terminal in the forefront was added recently. "Aeroports de France" was the main contractor in 1966 but this continued after 1971 by the Bangladesh govt.
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2.National Parliament House, Dhaka, Bangladesh designed by renowned architect Louis Kahn: One of the Largest Legislative Complexes globally. Project started in 1961.​

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3. Kaptai Dam and hydroelectric project (construction started in 1957 and completed in 1962)
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4. Khulna Shipyard where most of Bangladesh' advanced LPCs are made (Frigate construction at some point)

So - Ayub Khan as a visionary did his level best for Pakistan and Pakistanyat. I hope Imran Khan hopefully does the same.
He was the last good guy we had.
 
He was the last good guy we had.

A true patriot, he tried to keep the country together - and was active against all the traitors and corrupt people, some of them Bengalis too. He was heartbroken when Bhutto crossed him. Allah unko Jannat naseeb karey.

Whenever he visited Dacca, his sensitivity for our culture was paramount. It was at his direction, after 1954, that Bengali was introduced on banknotes, on the side of airplanes and at most govt. buildings, yes some even in West Pakistan.

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Indian Bengalis have no such parallel in New Delhi - no respect for Bengali there, or any other regional Indian language. Hindi supremacists everywhere in Delhi NCR.

I am glad Imran Khan seems to show much more sensitivity toward regional ethnicities, this (IMHO) is the only way to preserve unity in Pakistan.
 
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A true patriot, he tried to keep the country together - and was active against all the traitors and corrupt people, some of them Bengalis too. He was heartbroken when Bhutto crossed him. Allah unko Jannat naseeb karey.

Whenever he visited Dacca, his sensitivity for our culture was paramount. It was at his direction, after 1954, that Bengali was introduced on banknotes, on the side of airplanes and at most govt. buildings, yes some even in West Pakistan.

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Indian Bengalis have no such parallel in New Delhi - no respect for Bengali there, or any other regional Indian language. Hindi supremacists everywhere in Delhi NCR.

I am glad Imran Khan seems to show much more sensitivity toward regional ethnicities, this (IMHO) is the only way to preserve unity in Pakistan.
It all fell apart after him......he was the last one holding it all together with a vision like Nehru had for his country......

After him, all we got was basturds!
 
No, you will open them for your own peepal!

Irani Afghani are totally alien to this. They're very hardcore xeno's! Historical intolerance for Indian muslims. Don't you know?

V @Vsdoc .......iss ko samjha bhai......
Indian, and desi mulls, includes you 2 breakaway provinces.. are treated very poorly by pure Arbis.

Pjeets too, but being gair mazhabi, its just a regular look down.. you lot are lesser musalmans for them. :P
 
A true patriot, he tried to keep the country together - and was active against all the traitors and corrupt people, some of them Bengalis too. He was heartbroken when Bhutto crossed him. Allah unko Jannat naseeb karey.

Whenever he visited Dacca, his sensitivity for our culture was paramount. It was at his direction, after 1954, that Bengali was introduced on banknotes, on the side of airplanes and at most govt. buildings, yes some even in West Pakistan.

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Indian Bengalis have no such parallel in New Delhi - no respect for Bengali there, or any other regional Indian language. Hindi supremacists everywhere in Delhi NCR.

I am glad Imran Khan seems to show much more sensitivity toward regional ethnicities, this (IMHO) is the only way to preserve unity in Pakistan.
East Bengal is full of commies and ultra mazhabi mulls. that place need to fall off into the Bay. Ek solid cat 5 cyclone mangta to scrub and wash.
 

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