MiddleEast/Africa Gaza-Israel Conflict

[PakistanProud]

Date of Event: Oct 7, 2023

Source : https://web.archive.org/web/20231203210108/https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/gaza-israel-conflict-october-2023.777384/ Short Summary: Gaza-Israeli Updates

Discuss the current conflict going on between Israel & Palestine. Post tweets with a simple copy.

The source is an archived version of the Gaza-Israel thread from the previous PDF.

 

[TheNewb77]

US hopeful Hamas will agree to hostage deal, Qatar hints at 'positivity'​

A Qatari official told Reuters that Hamas indicated it viewed a proposal for a hostage deal positively.​

Israel-Hamas War Day 118: IDF takes over Khan Yunis, Hamas 'positive'

Qatar FM: Hamas gives initial approval for Gaza ceasefire, hostage deal • Israel defeats Hamas in Khan Yunis, over 10,000 Gazan terrorists killed

www.jpost.com

 

[VCheng]

What happens next in Rafah will be the key.

 

[Old School]

What happens next in Rafah will be the key.

Israel must agree with Egypt first before launching the Rafah offensive. Egyptians are always there for the highest bidders, and so are everyone else. The only beneficiary of this tragic conflict is Netanyahu's political enemies and, of course, Iran. We will see Iran and Hezbollah cheerleading on the fringes while thousands more Palestinians are dying. No one will intervene on behalf of the Palestinians.

 

[VCheng]

Israel must agree with Egypt first before launching the Rafah offensive. Egyptians are always there for the highest bidders, and so are everyone else. The only beneficiary of this tragic conflict is Netanyahu's political enemies and, of course, Iran. We will see Iran and Hezbollah cheerleading on the fringes while thousands more Palestinians are dying. No one will intervene on behalf of the Palestinians.

As I say, let us wait and see. Arabs are either sleeping or for sale, and the rest of the faithful are simply unconcerned.

 

[TheNewb77]

Israel’s war on Gaza live: Israeli captives ‘struggling for life’ – Hamas​

By Brian Osgood and Usaid Siddiqui
Published On 16 Feb 202416 Feb 2024
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• Shooting attack at a bus stop in southern Israel kills three and wounds four, Israeli forces raid Shuafat Refugee Camp, where accused shooter lives, in response.
• Israel’s incursion into Khan Younis’ Nasser Hospital has led to the deaths of at least five patients after electricity was severed and oxygen supplies cut.

Hamas warns Israeli captives ‘struggling for life’ as truce deal stalls

Loses among captives ‘very large’, says group spokesman, after PM Netanyahu declines to send team to Cairo truce talks.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[dalit]

This is not a conspiracy. This is happening as we speak.

 

[Lulldapull]

Hamaray bewquff khotay getting emotional on da israheel aleh salam vs Al-Yahuda conflict …..bewaquff idiota’s don’t understand that Iran’s playing all these arbi/yahudi/ hillbillay chumppu one against de other……Aaaahahahaaaaa….. Why is our awaam so chutiya? In ko pakarr ker koi maaray because they so gullible no?

 

[4MikeEcho]

Two observations:
1. Indians will continue to supply the world's labor workforce. Not exactly what a competitor to China (at least in eyes of US) should be doing.

2. GCC (mostly UAE, Saudi Arabia) continue to be spineless. They can't help Gazans, but given 9M indians work in GCC countries, you would think they would have the backbone to state a policy position

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/17/1229525320/india-israel-hamas-war-jobs-migrant-workers

With Palestinian laborers shut out of Israel, Indian workers line up for jobs there​

February 17, 20245:01 AM ET


Indian men line up at a registration office set up in a technical college in the northern Indian city of Lucknow, where they hope to sign up to work in Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

LUCKNOW, India — A devotional song blares from a Hindu temple as dozens of men cram in line for the chance to register for work in Israel. But mostly what the men hear are orders. An official directs them to a warehouse-style waiting room if they haven't already signed up. As the men jostle to get to the head of the line, a security guard orders them to sit down on the ground. "Do it like gentlemen," the guard orders. "No need for mischief!"


This unruly line outside a vocational training center in the northern Indian city of Lucknow is more than 2,700 miles away from Gaza — and it spotlights the many ways the war between Israel and Hamas is affecting life around the world.

Middle East crisis — explained ​

Thai farmhands in Israel face a grim choice: work in a war zone or go home to poverty​

Israel suspended the work permits of most Palestinian laborers after Hamas-backed militants attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,200 people and taking 240 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. That triggered the latest war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, where more than 27,000 Palestinians have been killed since Oct. 7, according to Gaza health officials.


Palestinian laborers formed the backbone of Israel's construction sector. After the work permit suspensions, most building sites lie idle.


"We don't bring in Arabs from Judea and Samaria because it is a security risk," said Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, using a biblical term to describe the Israeli-occupied West Bank. This is what prompted Israel to look for "alternatives," he said during a Feb. 4 news conference.


India appears to be one of those alternatives.


Haim Feiglin, the deputy president of the Israel Builders Association, told Voice of America soon after the war began that the association was hoping to bring in anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 workers from India. "Right now we are negotiating with India. We are waiting for [the] decision of the Israeli government to approve that," he said in an interview on Nov. 1.


Barely two months later, the northern Indian states of Haryana and Uttar Pradesh each advertised 10,000 jobs for skilled laborers in Israel. According to an advertisement issued by the Haryana state government, the Israeli recruiters seek carpenters, blacksmiths, tilers and plasterers.


Those selected after on-spot interviews and skill tests will receive a monthly wage of more than $1,600, more than five or six times what they would receive for the same work in India.


Among the men hopeful for jobs in Israel is Ram Kumar, a 36-year-old carpenter who traveled more than 150 miles to register in Lucknow. On a recent damp, cold morning, he tells NPR it's his third day waiting in line. "I have two kids, a wife and a father to look after," he says.


He is still at the back, with hundreds in front of him. The sheer number of job seekers over the previous two days means by the time he gets close to the registration desk, officials will call it a day, he says.


Kumar has spent nights at a cousin's home nearby. He says others are sleeping on nearby pavements, on the platform of the nearby railway station and even in an abandoned lot between buildings.




An Indian man holds up a registration form to work in Israel. He was recently at a registration office in the northern Indian city of Lucknow after two Indian states, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh, recently announced they were seeking to recruit 10,000 skilled laborers each to Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

Nearby, Bahadur Singh is also applying to work in Israel, even though he's nervous. "We've heard there are lots of bombs and missiles being thrown around," he says.


"Then don't apply if you're so worried!" snaps an eavesdropping fellow candidate.


But the promise of better compensation is too strong a draw.


"I want to give my children a better life than me," Singh says.


India's foreign ministry has not said whether the men will be sent to areas close to conflict zones, but a spokesperson noted that Israel generally has robust worker protections.


Singh says he was motivated to apply because this recruitment drive comes out of a deal between the Indian and Israeli governments, and a government-to-government deal meant he wasn't risking being fleeced by employment agents — that happened to him a few years ago. "Fraud, sir, fraud," he says, shaking his head.


He says he paid an agent his life savings, $600, on the promise of a job abroad. Then the agent disappeared. It's a common story for Indians seeking work abroad.


Israel and India inked the deal to send Indian workers last May. It was seen as a way of regulating labor between the two countries, which has been growing over the years. Indian skilled laborers and care workers in particular seek employment in Israel because of its relatively high wages. But Israel remains a small market for expatriate Indian labor compared with the Gulf region, for instance, where an estimated 9 million Indians work.


The rush for wide-scale recruitment to Israel began in earnest after the conflict erupted between Israel and Hamas.


Indian trade unions see the current recruitment as an effort to replace Palestinians who have lost their livelihoods following the outbreak of war.


"Nothing could be more immoral and disastrous," said a statement in November by 10 unions, mostly representing construction workers. "Such a step will amount to complicity on India's part with Israel's ongoing genocidal war against Palestinians."


Members of the Congress party, the chief opposition to the Hindu nationalist ruling party, also criticized the decision to allow Indian workers to be sent to Israel.


"What are we essentially saying by doing this?" asked Praveen Chakravarty, a political economist affiliated with the Congress party. "We are essentially saying, don't worry. Even if you attack Palestinians and you do not have Palestinian labor, we will supplement that. That is direct intervention."


A government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media on this subject told NPR that the recruitment drive was "never intended to replace Palestinian workers in any sector."


But he acknowledged the rushed recruitment drive could be related to the current conflict. "It is possible that some fresh recruitment is being done due to reasons completely internal to Israel," he said.


Navtej Sarna, a former Indian ambassador to Israel, says the deal demonstrates the strength of the India-Israel relationship. "It shows the two governments are comfortable working with each other, and this is something which has built up over the last 30 years," he says.


Before that, India was a prominent ally of Palestinians. It established full diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992.

 

[Old School]

Two observations:
1. Indians will continue to supply the world's labor workforce. Not exactly what a competitor to China (at least in eyes of US) should be doing.

2. GCC (mostly UAE, Saudi Arabia) continue to be spineless. They can't help Gazans, but given 9M indians work in GCC countries, you would think they would have the backbone to state a policy position

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/17/1229525320/india-israel-hamas-war-jobs-migrant-workers

With Palestinian laborers shut out of Israel, Indian workers line up for jobs there​

February 17, 20245:01 AM ET


Indian men line up at a registration office set up in a technical college in the northern Indian city of Lucknow, where they hope to sign up to work in Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

LUCKNOW, India — A devotional song blares from a Hindu temple as dozens of men cram in line for the chance to register for work in Israel. But mostly what the men hear are orders. An official directs them to a warehouse-style waiting room if they haven't already signed up. As the men jostle to get to the head of the line, a security guard orders them to sit down on the ground. "Do it like gentlemen," the guard orders. "No need for mischief!"


This unruly line outside a vocational training center in the northern Indian city of Lucknow is more than 2,700 miles away from Gaza — and it spotlights the many ways the war between Israel and Hamas is affecting life around the world.

Middle East crisis — explained​

Thai farmhands in Israel face a grim choice: work in a war zone or go home to poverty​

Israel suspended the work permits of most Palestinian laborers after Hamas-backed militants attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,200 people and taking 240 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. That triggered the latest war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, where more than 27,000 Palestinians have been killed since Oct. 7, according to Gaza health officials.


Palestinian laborers formed the backbone of Israel's construction sector. After the work permit suspensions, most building sites lie idle.


"We don't bring in Arabs from Judea and Samaria because it is a security risk," said Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, using a biblical term to describe the Israeli-occupied West Bank. This is what prompted Israel to look for "alternatives," he said during a Feb. 4 news conference.


India appears to be one of those alternatives.


Haim Feiglin, the deputy president of the Israel Builders Association, told Voice of America soon after the war began that the association was hoping to bring in anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 workers from India. "Right now we are negotiating with India. We are waiting for [the] decision of the Israeli government to approve that," he said in an interview on Nov. 1.


Barely two months later, the northern Indian states of Haryana and Uttar Pradesh each advertised 10,000 jobs for skilled laborers in Israel. According to an advertisement issued by the Haryana state government, the Israeli recruiters seek carpenters, blacksmiths, tilers and plasterers.


Those selected after on-spot interviews and skill tests will receive a monthly wage of more than $1,600, more than five or six times what they would receive for the same work in India.


Among the men hopeful for jobs in Israel is Ram Kumar, a 36-year-old carpenter who traveled more than 150 miles to register in Lucknow. On a recent damp, cold morning, he tells NPR it's his third day waiting in line. "I have two kids, a wife and a father to look after," he says.


He is still at the back, with hundreds in front of him. The sheer number of job seekers over the previous two days means by the time he gets close to the registration desk, officials will call it a day, he says.


Kumar has spent nights at a cousin's home nearby. He says others are sleeping on nearby pavements, on the platform of the nearby railway station and even in an abandoned lot between buildings.




An Indian man holds up a registration form to work in Israel. He was recently at a registration office in the northern Indian city of Lucknow after two Indian states, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh, recently announced they were seeking to recruit 10,000 skilled laborers each to Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

Nearby, Bahadur Singh is also applying to work in Israel, even though he's nervous. "We've heard there are lots of bombs and missiles being thrown around," he says.


"Then don't apply if you're so worried!" snaps an eavesdropping fellow candidate.


But the promise of better compensation is too strong a draw.


"I want to give my children a better life than me," Singh says.


India's foreign ministry has not said whether the men will be sent to areas close to conflict zones, but a spokesperson noted that Israel generally has robust worker protections.


Singh says he was motivated to apply because this recruitment drive comes out of a deal between the Indian and Israeli governments, and a government-to-government deal meant he wasn't risking being fleeced by employment agents — that happened to him a few years ago. "Fraud, sir, fraud," he says, shaking his head.


He says he paid an agent his life savings, $600, on the promise of a job abroad. Then the agent disappeared. It's a common story for Indians seeking work abroad.


Israel and India inked the deal to send Indian workers last May. It was seen as a way of regulating labor between the two countries, which has been growing over the years. Indian skilled laborers and care workers in particular seek employment in Israel because of its relatively high wages. But Israel remains a small market for expatriate Indian labor compared with the Gulf region, for instance, where an estimated 9 million Indians work.


The rush for wide-scale recruitment to Israel began in earnest after the conflict erupted between Israel and Hamas.


Indian trade unions see the current recruitment as an effort to replace Palestinians who have lost their livelihoods following the outbreak of war.


"Nothing could be more immoral and disastrous," said a statement in November by 10 unions, mostly representing construction workers. "Such a step will amount to complicity on India's part with Israel's ongoing genocidal war against Palestinians."


Members of the Congress party, the chief opposition to the Hindu nationalist ruling party, also criticized the decision to allow Indian workers to be sent to Israel.


"What are we essentially saying by doing this?" asked Praveen Chakravarty, a political economist affiliated with the Congress party. "We are essentially saying, don't worry. Even if you attack Palestinians and you do not have Palestinian labor, we will supplement that. That is direct intervention."


A government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media on this subject told NPR that the recruitment drive was "never intended to replace Palestinian workers in any sector."


But he acknowledged the rushed recruitment drive could be related to the current conflict. "It is possible that some fresh recruitment is being done due to reasons completely internal to Israel," he said.


Navtej Sarna, a former Indian ambassador to Israel, says the deal demonstrates the strength of the India-Israel relationship. "It shows the two governments are comfortable working with each other, and this is something which has built up over the last 30 years," he says.


Before that, India was a prominent ally of Palestinians. It established full diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992.

The jobseekers of all the significant labor supplier countries of the GCC would line up for work in Israel, given they have full diplomatic relations with Israel. The sub-continent has the most significant migrant labor pool in the world. People with low education, low income, and unemployment also suffer from low morals and do not have much ideological appetite. For most people in the subcontinent, paying bills for the family gets the highest priority over anything else, even if that means working in danger zones or taking dangerous routes to migrate. Socio-economic class plays the defining factor of whether a sub-continental person is ideologically inclined and how much inclined. The higher the social stature, ideological inclinations gets higher in proportion.

 

[Lulldapull]

Two observations:
1. Indians will continue to supply the world's labor workforce. Not exactly what a competitor to China (at least in eyes of US) should be doing.

2. GCC (mostly UAE, Saudi Arabia) continue to be spineless. They can't help Gazans, but given 9M indians work in GCC countries, you would think they would have the backbone to state a policy position

https://www.npr.org/2024/02/17/1229525320/india-israel-hamas-war-jobs-migrant-workers

With Palestinian laborers shut out of Israel, Indian workers line up for jobs there​

February 17, 20245:01 AM ET


Indian men line up at a registration office set up in a technical college in the northern Indian city of Lucknow, where they hope to sign up to work in Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

LUCKNOW, India — A devotional song blares from a Hindu temple as dozens of men cram in line for the chance to register for work in Israel. But mostly what the men hear are orders. An official directs them to a warehouse-style waiting room if they haven't already signed up. As the men jostle to get to the head of the line, a security guard orders them to sit down on the ground. "Do it like gentlemen," the guard orders. "No need for mischief!"


This unruly line outside a vocational training center in the northern Indian city of Lucknow is more than 2,700 miles away from Gaza — and it spotlights the many ways the war between Israel and Hamas is affecting life around the world.

Middle East crisis — explained​

Thai farmhands in Israel face a grim choice: work in a war zone or go home to poverty​

Israel suspended the work permits of most Palestinian laborers after Hamas-backed militants attacked Israel on Oct. 7, killing more than 1,200 people and taking 240 hostages, according to Israeli authorities. That triggered the latest war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, where more than 27,000 Palestinians have been killed since Oct. 7, according to Gaza health officials.


Palestinian laborers formed the backbone of Israel's construction sector. After the work permit suspensions, most building sites lie idle.


"We don't bring in Arabs from Judea and Samaria because it is a security risk," said Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, using a biblical term to describe the Israeli-occupied West Bank. This is what prompted Israel to look for "alternatives," he said during a Feb. 4 news conference.


India appears to be one of those alternatives.


Haim Feiglin, the deputy president of the Israel Builders Association, told Voice of America soon after the war began that the association was hoping to bring in anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 workers from India. "Right now we are negotiating with India. We are waiting for [the] decision of the Israeli government to approve that," he said in an interview on Nov. 1.


Barely two months later, the northern Indian states of Haryana and Uttar Pradesh each advertised 10,000 jobs for skilled laborers in Israel. According to an advertisement issued by the Haryana state government, the Israeli recruiters seek carpenters, blacksmiths, tilers and plasterers.


Those selected after on-spot interviews and skill tests will receive a monthly wage of more than $1,600, more than five or six times what they would receive for the same work in India.


Among the men hopeful for jobs in Israel is Ram Kumar, a 36-year-old carpenter who traveled more than 150 miles to register in Lucknow. On a recent damp, cold morning, he tells NPR it's his third day waiting in line. "I have two kids, a wife and a father to look after," he says.


He is still at the back, with hundreds in front of him. The sheer number of job seekers over the previous two days means by the time he gets close to the registration desk, officials will call it a day, he says.


Kumar has spent nights at a cousin's home nearby. He says others are sleeping on nearby pavements, on the platform of the nearby railway station and even in an abandoned lot between buildings.




An Indian man holds up a registration form to work in Israel. He was recently at a registration office in the northern Indian city of Lucknow after two Indian states, Haryana and Uttar Pradesh, recently announced they were seeking to recruit 10,000 skilled laborers each to Israel.
Diaa Hadid/NPR

Nearby, Bahadur Singh is also applying to work in Israel, even though he's nervous. "We've heard there are lots of bombs and missiles being thrown around," he says.


"Then don't apply if you're so worried!" snaps an eavesdropping fellow candidate.


But the promise of better compensation is too strong a draw.


"I want to give my children a better life than me," Singh says.


India's foreign ministry has not said whether the men will be sent to areas close to conflict zones, but a spokesperson noted that Israel generally has robust worker protections.


Singh says he was motivated to apply because this recruitment drive comes out of a deal between the Indian and Israeli governments, and a government-to-government deal meant he wasn't risking being fleeced by employment agents — that happened to him a few years ago. "Fraud, sir, fraud," he says, shaking his head.


He says he paid an agent his life savings, $600, on the promise of a job abroad. Then the agent disappeared. It's a common story for Indians seeking work abroad.


Israel and India inked the deal to send Indian workers last May. It was seen as a way of regulating labor between the two countries, which has been growing over the years. Indian skilled laborers and care workers in particular seek employment in Israel because of its relatively high wages. But Israel remains a small market for expatriate Indian labor compared with the Gulf region, for instance, where an estimated 9 million Indians work.


The rush for wide-scale recruitment to Israel began in earnest after the conflict erupted between Israel and Hamas.


Indian trade unions see the current recruitment as an effort to replace Palestinians who have lost their livelihoods following the outbreak of war.


"Nothing could be more immoral and disastrous," said a statement in November by 10 unions, mostly representing construction workers. "Such a step will amount to complicity on India's part with Israel's ongoing genocidal war against Palestinians."


Members of the Congress party, the chief opposition to the Hindu nationalist ruling party, also criticized the decision to allow Indian workers to be sent to Israel.


"What are we essentially saying by doing this?" asked Praveen Chakravarty, a political economist affiliated with the Congress party. "We are essentially saying, don't worry. Even if you attack Palestinians and you do not have Palestinian labor, we will supplement that. That is direct intervention."


A government official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media on this subject told NPR that the recruitment drive was "never intended to replace Palestinian workers in any sector."


But he acknowledged the rushed recruitment drive could be related to the current conflict. "It is possible that some fresh recruitment is being done due to reasons completely internal to Israel," he said.


Navtej Sarna, a former Indian ambassador to Israel, says the deal demonstrates the strength of the India-Israel relationship. "It shows the two governments are comfortable working with each other, and this is something which has built up over the last 30 years," he says.


Before that, India was a prominent ally of Palestinians. It established full diplomatic relations with Israel only in 1992.

yaar my friends in Toronto tell me that there are so many Indians now in the city that when you go to the mall, you feel like you are in Delhi or Bombay. Log parshaan ho gaey hain seeing this situation. You'd have a 1000 Indians at any given mall vs 10 Pakistani's. It is like that.

 

[TheNewb77]

yaar my friends in Toronto tell me that there are so many Indians now in the city that when you go to the mall, you feel like you are in Delhi or Bombay. Log parshaan ho gaey hain seeing this situation. You'd have a 1000 Indians at any given mall vs 10 Pakistani's. It is like that.

Mostly Sikhs. Around 75% of Canadian-Indians are Sikhs and most support Khalistan and dislike Hindutva controlled India.

 

[Lulldapull]

Mostly Sikhs. Around 75% of Canadian-Indians are Sikhs and most support Khalistan and dislike Hindutva controlled India.

Yaar mager kitnay ho gaey hain there's like millions of dem now over there, banda ghabra jande hae looking at so many indians out in Canada. I've seen pics he posts on FB it looks like India or Dubai you know. I'm surprised Canadian gubment don't stop their immigration. Our population is nothing in front of theirs in Canada.

 

[Old School]

Yaar mager kitnay ho gaey hain there's like millions of dem now over there, banda ghabra jande hae looking at so many indians out in Canada. I've seen pics he posts on FB it looks like India or Dubai you know. I'm surprised Canadian gubment don't stop their immigration. Our population is nothing in front of theirs in Canada.

Unless we have Caucasian/ Middle Eastern-like color and face, as many of us do, most American-Canadians assume us to be Indian. The voice/tone is especially difficult to hide. There was a time when we Pakistanis used to be clean-shaven ( still I am). Many of our young folks now look like Indian soap actors with beards. Just have a look at any random new wedding photo.

 

[Lulldapull]

Unless we have Caucasian/ Middle Eastern-like color and face, as many of us do, most American-Canadians assume us to be Indian. The voice/tone is especially difficult to hide. There was a time when we Pakistanis used to be clean-shaven ( still I am). Many of our young folks now look like Indian soap actors with beards. Just have a look at any random new wedding photo.

Hamaray log aattay main namak k brabar hain gay in front of these Indian hordes now running helter skelter around in both the US and Canada. The facts are there’s like a thousand hindu/sikh/gujju to our ten people everywhere. We are totally outnumbered! Jitthay vekho Indian kharra honda ae.

 

[TheNewb77]

Hamaray log aattay main namak k brabar hain gay in front of these Indian hordes now running helter skelter around in both the US and Canada. The facts are there’s like a thousand hindu/sikh/ gujju to our ten people everywhere. We are totally outnumbered!

The Sikhs in Canada & the UK are generally pro-Pakistanis and vice-versa. I've seen many Pakistanis help Sikhs start businesses in Canada and I've seen Sikhs be generous towards Pakistanis.

There are a lot of international Sikh students who act like wild animals, however, and they paint a bad picture of them for everyone.

Canadians are very well fed up of this. They cannot generally separate a Sikh, Hindu, etc. Indian person. When the Indian-Canada spat happened over India's killing of a Sikh in Canada, the Canadians at vehemently supported Canada's stance as they were sick of India (no pun intended) with their mass migration and scams calls, etc. But the irony is that most of the reason for that is due to the massive Sikh migration in Canada and the Hindutva attempt to control Canada for it. So Canada ends up being this weird place where it is an outbranch of a 'Sikh empire' of sorts but the people of the country dislike India because of the actions of the Indian Sikhs in Canada while at the same time India dislikes Canada because of its lenient stance towards Khalistan (which is far more than even Pakistan's support).

 

[4MikeEcho]

Saddens me: never have leaders of 2BN Muslims stood by as this devastation occurs. From Turkey to Morocco to the GCC.

How is this possible? My friends in a GCC country, when I sent them a picture of a pro-Gaza march, they didn’t even respond. Everybody been suppressed by their leaders.

Social media was supposed to make information and action more visible. The opposite seems to be happening.

Is this what Hamas had in mind: signing the death warrant of a million Gaza’s (I consider the ones that are live to be the living dead)

Hamas says Israel ‘not serious’ about reaching Gaza truce and captives deal

Senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya tells Al Jazeera that Netanyahu only wants to prolong the war to remain in power.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel’s war on Gaza live: Food trucks surrounded as hunger spreads in Gaza​

By Lyndal Rowlands and Alastair Mccready
Published On 19 Feb 202419 Feb 2024
Click here to share on social media

• Footage verified by Al Jazeera shows hundreds of Palestinians in Gaza City rushing towards aid trucks before fleeing after Israeli forces open fire at them.
• Gaza’s Health Ministry says an eighth person has died at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis after the Israeli military cut electricity and oxygen supplies.
• The State of Palestine will address the International Court of Justice (ICJ) as hearings on Israel’s occupation of Palestine start on Monday.
• At least 127 people have been killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza in the past 24 hours. Israeli bombardment has killed at least 28,985 Palestinians and wounded 68,883 since October 7. The death toll in Israel from the October 7 Hamas-led attacks stands at 1,139.

 

[Lulldapull]

Saddens me: never have leaders of 2BN Muslims stood by as this devastation occurs. From Turkey to Morocco to the GCC.

How is this possible? My friends in a GCC country, when I sent them a picture of a pro-Gaza march, they didn’t even respond. Everybody been suppressed by their leaders.

Social media was supposed to make information and action more visible. The opposite seems to be happening.

Is this what Hamas had in mind: signing the death warrant of a million Gaza’s (I consider the ones that are live to be the living dead)

Hamas says Israel ‘not serious’ about reaching Gaza truce and captives deal

Senior Hamas official Khalil al-Hayya tells Al Jazeera that Netanyahu only wants to prolong the war to remain in power.

www.aljazeera.com

Israel’s war on Gaza live: Food trucks surrounded as hunger spreads in Gaza​

By Lyndal Rowlands and Alastair Mccready
Published On 19 Feb 202419 Feb 2024
Click here to share on social media

• Footage verified by Al Jazeera shows hundreds of Palestinians in Gaza City rushing towards aid trucks before fleeing after Israeli forces open fire at them.
• Gaza’s Health Ministry says an eighth person has died at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis after the Israeli military cut electricity and oxygen supplies.
• The State of Palestine will address the International Court of Justice (ICJ) as hearings on Israel’s occupation of Palestine start on Monday.
• At least 127 people have been killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza in the past 24 hours. Israeli bombardment has killed at least 28,985 Palestinians and wounded 68,883 since October 7. The death toll in Israel from the October 7 Hamas-led attacks stands at 1,139.

Sir G our ghareeb can't say much on line vurna jobain jaanay da khatra ho jaanda ne. You know these hillbillay boss/ co-worker read your comments on fb or Insta or X, then you lose your job! For da love of god please don't put comments on social media on your accounts, itthay no problem. Here we all largely anonymous. Jo vhee kenha ne itthay keh lo buss. Be very careful folks.......Trump nay 100% vaapas aana hae ga just watch. He's already threatened to deport anyone seen on Gaza marches in da US using facial recognition AI software, Homeland security already has the recordings. Harami da putter trump just waiting to act on his rhetoric. He coming back big time aur saadday vilayeti ghareeban de shammat aani ae. Friend of mine working at meta told me k bhai be very careful what you post online or visit online now. The new policy which will be unveiled within da decade or so will be an AI bot generated profile of you when you go apply for a job/ intend to purchase property or go try putting up your kid in some school district or apply for credit/ loan......Tuwaddi saari IP online website visit/ comment history will be part of the job interview/ review process associated with your online IP history. They are moving toward this now.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Sir G our ghareeb can't say much on line vurna jobain jaanay da khatra ho jaanda ne. You know these hillbillay boss/ co-worker read your comments on fb or Insta or X, then you lose your job! For da love of god please don't put comments on social media on your accounts, itthay no problem. Here we all largely anonymous. Jo vhee kenha ne itthay keh lo buss. Be very careful folks.......Trump nay 100% vaapas aana hae ga just watch. He's already threatened to deport anyone seen on Gaza marches in da US using facial recognition AI software, Homeland security already has the recordings. Harami da putter trump just waiting to act on his rhetoric. He coming back big time aur saadday vilayeti ghareeban de shammat aani ae. Friend of mine working at meta told me k bhai be very careful what you post online or visit online now. The new policy which will be unveiled within da decade or so will be an AI bot generated profile of you when you go apply for a job/ intend to purchase property or go try putting up your kid in some school district or apply for credit/ loan......Tuwaddi saari IP online website visit/ comment history will be part of the job interview/ review process associated with your online IP history. They are moving toward this now.

This may fly in the US (till the law suits start rolling in), but in the EU this will be never permitted. European standard for digital privacy is much higher.

As for social media: certainly if one lives in a country where the Govt is supporting Israel, it is understandable that some won't respond. But these people are living in GCC countries. When did the rulers there adopt the position that their citizens should be afraid to support Gazans. This is terrible. As for me, I can't go help Gazans, but the least I can do is to keep going to these marches to pressure the politicians in my country to not be on wrong side of history

 

[Lulldapull]

This may fly in the US (till the law suits start rolling in), but in the EU this will be never permitted. European standard for digital privacy is much higher.

As for social media: certainly if one lives in a country where the Govt is supporting Israel, it is understandable that some won't respond. But these people are living in GCC countries. When did the rulers there adopt the position that their citizens should be afraid to support Gazans. This is terrible. As for me, I can't go help Gazans, but the least I can do is to keep going to these marches to pressure the politicians in my country to not be on wrong side of history

Yaar all I said is that US will take that patriot act to a new level when Trump sahb returns aur jo US kehnde hae vo EU waalay karde ne. Ager tussi jande ho protest per, then atleast wear mask.......Ae harami saara kuchh record karde hain ge. Just be careful. Right wing gubments nay aana hae down da road everywhere.

 

[4MikeEcho]

I don't think this whole thing will fly in Congress. Democrats would never go with this, and assuming Trump wins and Republicans win both Senate and House this will have to be by a huge margin to go along with this approach.

 

[Lulldapull]

I don't think this whole thing will fly in Congress. Democrats would never go with this, and assuming Trump wins and Republicans win both Senate and House this will have to be by a huge margin to go along with this approach.

yaar he's coming back. Biden sahb is done!

 

[4MikeEcho]

Given this thread is about Gazans, their life will be no different/less miserable and Israel no less supported regardless of its Biden or Trump. So his coming may change outlook on rest of the world (like NATO / Europe / Russia) but will have no bearing on change in policy in Israel. If anything , Republicans in general tend to be more pro-Israel. Throw in the Evangelicalcs that are ready for rupture as a way to heaven, and they more than ever want the world to end on their watch.

And Trump particularly is much more in the pocket of AIPAC. Remember he recognized Jerusalem.

Muslims/Arabs will be fine and will struggle to influence policy. But it is ultimately up to the Arab World and extended non-Western countries to say enough is enough and draw a line in the sand on how much suffering and humiliations Gazans should be subject to.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Israel's economy shrinks more than expected on Gaza war

Its gross domestic product contracted by far more than expected in the wake of the conflict with Gaza.

www.bbc.com

Israel's economy shrinks more than expected on Gaza war​

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Israel's economy shrank by far more than expected in the wake of conflict with Hamas in Gaza, according to official figures.

Gross domestic product (GDP) - a key measure of a country's economic health - fell by 19% on an annualised basis in the fourth quarter of 2023.

That is the equivalent of a fall of 5% between October and December.

GDP was "directly affected" by the outbreak of the conflict on 7 October, the Central Bureau of Statistics said.

Israel and Hamas have been at war after gunmen from the Palestinian group launched an unprecedented attack on Israel from Gaza - the deadliest in Israel's history.

About 1,200 people were killed during the attack. Hamas, which is considered a terrorist group by Israel, the US, the European Union and the UK, also took more than 250 men, women and children hostage.

An Israeli military campaign has followed, which has killed 29,000 people in the Palestinian territory, according to the Hamas-run health ministry there.

• Why are Israel and Hamas fighting in Gaza?
• What is GDP and how is it measured?

Experts said the data released on Monday by Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics was much worse than had been expected.

The median estimate in a Bloomberg survey of analysts was for an annualised decline of 10.5%.

The Central Bureau of Statistics said the war had sharply curtailed spending, travel and investment at the end of last year.

It said private spending dropped by 26.3%, exports fell by 18.3% and there had been a 67.8% slide in investment in fixed assets, especially in residential buildings. The construction sector suffered from a lack of labour, due to military call-ups and a reduction in Palestinian workers.

Meanwhile, government spending, mainly on war expenses and compensating businesses and households, jumped by 88.1%.

Despite the sharp drop in GDP between October and December, Israel's economy grew by 2% for the full year.

However, before the 7 October attacks, it had been expected to expand by 3.5%.

Liam Peach, emerging markets economist at Capital Economics, said the contraction of Israel's economy was "much worse than had been expected and highlights the extent of the hit from the Hamas attacks and the war in Gaza".

He said the country's growth outlook for 2024 "now looks likely to post one of its weakest rates on record".

Elsewhere, the conflict has affected trade. Houthi rebels, backed by Iran, have been targeting cargo ships on the Red Sea that are heading to the Suez Canal.

Egypt's President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi said on Monday that the attacks had cut Suez Canal revenue by between 40% and 50% this year.

The Red Sea is one of the world's most important routes for cargo - almost 15% of global seaborne trade usually passes through the area.

The Houthis have been carrying out strikes from bases in Yemen on ships which they claim are Israeli-owned, flagged or operated, or are heading to Israeli ports. However, the owners and operators of many vessels claim they have no links with Israel at all.

The US and the UK have carried out retaliatory strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen in turn.

But even before this, some of the world's largest shipping companies had stopped their vessels from passing through the strait.

 

[TheNewb77]

 

[Old School]

[H1]Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Live updates[/H1]

Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Updates

Columbia University, the epicenter of the demonstrations, said classes will provide a virtual learning option through the end of the semester.

www.usatoday.com

 

[4MikeEcho]

[h1]Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Live updates[/h1]

Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Updates

Columbia University, the epicenter of the demonstrations, said classes will provide a virtual learning option through the end of the semester.

www.usatoday.com

Has anybody seen any social media footage? Is this all ethnicities or mostly arab protesters only?

If this becomes mainstream, while i was not around, this is how the anti-Vietnam protests took momentum. Thought in this case it started only at elite institutions. I don't believe that was the case in anti-vietnam

 

[Old School]

[h1]Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Live updates[/h1]

Protests in New York as US campuses brace for more unrest over Gaza war: Updates

Columbia University, the epicenter of the demonstrations, said classes will provide a virtual learning option through the end of the semester.

www.usatoday.com

Has anybody seen any social media footage? Is this all ethnicities or mostly arab protesters only?

If this becomes mainstream, while i was not around, this is how the anti-Vietnam protests took momentum. Thought in this case it started only at elite institutions. I don't believe that was the case in anti-vietnam

All ethnicities and a lot of white protestors. It is spreading now to all campuses all over America. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pr...er-cities-college-campuses-simmer-2024-04-23/

 

[4MikeEcho]

Clear separation between Jews and Zionists, a big protest opposing US support for Israel, and getting arrested like the protestors at universities.

Telling quote
"We as American Jews will not be used, we will not be complicit and we will not be silent. Judaism is a beautiful, thousands-year-old tradition, and Israel is a 76-year-old colonial apartheid state," Morgan Bassichis, an organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace, told the crowd.

"This is the Passover that we take our exodus from Zionism. Not in our name. Let Gaza live."

‘Not like other Passovers’: hundreds of Jewish demonstrators arrested after New York protest seder

About 300 people were detained near Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer’s Brooklyn home

www.theguardian.com

[H1]'Not like other Passovers': hundreds of Jewish demonstrators arrested after New York protest seder[/H1]
About 300 people were detained near Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer's Brooklyn home

Nina Lakhani
Wed 24 Apr 2024 02.28 EDTLast modified on Wed 24 Apr 2024 11.29 EDT


Hundreds of Jewish anti-war demonstrators have been arrested during a Passover seder that doubled as a protest in New York, as they shut down a major thoroughfare to pray for a ceasefire and urge the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, to end US military aid to Israel.
The 300 or so arrests took place on Tuesday night at Grand Army Plaza, on the doorstep of Schumer's Brooklyn residence, where thousands of mostly Jewish New Yorkers gathered for the seder, a ritual that marked the second night of the holiday celebrated as a festival of freedom by Jews worldwide.

The seder came just before the US Senate resoundingly passed a military package that includes $26bn for Israel.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-reports-of-mass-graves-at-two-gaza-hospitals
The protesters called on Schumer – who is among a minority of Democrats to recently criticize the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu – to stop arming Israel's military, which relies heavily on US weapons, jet fuel and other military equipment.

Police arrested hundreds of people as a pro-Palestinian Jewish group gathered to protest in Brooklyn, New York. Photograph: Anadolu/Getty Images

"We as American Jews will not be used, we will not be complicit and we will not be silent. Judaism is a beautiful, thousands-year-old tradition, and Israel is a 76-year-old colonial apartheid state," Morgan Bassichis, an organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace, told the crowd.


"This is the Passover that we take our exodus from Zionism. Not in our name. Let Gaza live."

The mass arrests came after the seder rituals. Speakers included journalist and author Naomi Klein, Palestinian activist Linda Sarsour, and several Jewish students suspended from Columbia University and Barnard College over the protests that have rocked US campuses in recent days.

Rabbi Miriam Grossman, from Brooklyn, led a prayer before the first cup of ritual wine. "We pray for everyone besieged, for everyone facing starvation and mass bombardment."

"This Passover is not like other Passovers," said Klein. "So many are not with their families but this movement is our family," she added in reference to political disagreements that have divided Jewish families since the start of the war.

Klein spoke after eating the bitter herbs that represent the bitterness of slavery at the seder. "Our Judaism cannot be contained by an ethnostate, for our Judaism is internationalist by its very nature. Our Judaism cannot be protected by the rampaging military of that ethnostate, for all that military does is sow sorrow and reap hatred, including hatred against us as Jews."

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Jewish communities have often used Passover to protest about global injustice. Tuesday's protest, organizers said, was inspired by the 1969 Freedom Seder, organized by Arthur Waskow on the anniversary of Dr Martin Luther King Jr's death. The original Freedom Seder sought to connect the Jewish exodus story with the struggle for civil rights in the US and against the war in Vietnam.

One protester, a 31-year-old Jewish woman who asked not to be named for security reasons, said: "Passover is about liberation. In our family, Palestinians have always been part of our celebration and mourning. The call for liberation is more important now than ever … As Americans, the billions of our tax dollars in the Israeli military bill is outrageous and horrifying."

Jewish groups have staged a number of high-profile antiwar actions in the US since 7 October, shutting down sites from the Capitol to the Statue of Liberty. Jewish activists held another seder on Monday, the first night of Passover, at Columbia's protest encampment.

Israel's offensive has killed at least 34,000 Palestinians in Gaza including 13,000 children. The 7 October 2023 attack by Hamas killed about 1,200 people in southern Israel. Tuesday marked 200 days since the war began.

 

[4MikeEcho]

Clear separation between Jews and Zionists, a big protest opposing US support for Israel, and getting arrested like the protestors at universities.

Telling quote
"We as American Jews will not be used, we will not be complicit and we will not be silent. Judaism is a beautiful, thousands-year-old tradition, and Israel is a 76-year-old colonial apartheid state," Morgan Bassichis, an organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace, told the crowd.

"This is the Passover that we take our exodus from Zionism. Not in our name. Let Gaza live."

‘Not like other Passovers’: hundreds of Jewish demonstrators arrested after New York protest seder

About 300 people were detained near Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer’s Brooklyn home

www.theguardian.com

[H1]'Not like other Passovers': hundreds of Jewish demonstrators arrested after New York protest seder[/H1]
About 300 people were detained near Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer's Brooklyn home

Nina Lakhani
Wed 24 Apr 2024 02.28 EDTLast modified on Wed 24 Apr 2024 11.29 EDT


Hundreds of Jewish anti-war demonstrators have been arrested during a Passover seder that doubled as a protest in New York, as they shut down a major thoroughfare to pray for a ceasefire and urge the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, to end US military aid to Israel.
The 300 or so arrests took place on Tuesday night at Grand Army Plaza, on the doorstep of Schumer's Brooklyn residence, where thousands of mostly Jewish New Yorkers gathered for the seder, a ritual that marked the second night of the holiday celebrated as a festival of freedom by Jews worldwide.

The seder came just before the US Senate resoundingly passed a military package that includes $26bn for Israel.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-reports-of-mass-graves-at-two-gaza-hospitals
The protesters called on Schumer – who is among a minority of Democrats to recently criticize the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu – to stop arming Israel's military, which relies heavily on US weapons, jet fuel and other military equipment.

Police arrested hundreds of people as a pro-Palestinian Jewish group gathered to protest in Brooklyn, New York. Photograph: Anadolu/Getty Images

"We as American Jews will not be used, we will not be complicit and we will not be silent. Judaism is a beautiful, thousands-year-old tradition, and Israel is a 76-year-old colonial apartheid state," Morgan Bassichis, an organizer with Jewish Voice for Peace, told the crowd.


"This is the Passover that we take our exodus from Zionism. Not in our name. Let Gaza live."

The mass arrests came after the seder rituals. Speakers included journalist and author Naomi Klein, Palestinian activist Linda Sarsour, and several Jewish students suspended from Columbia University and Barnard College over the protests that have rocked US campuses in recent days.

Rabbi Miriam Grossman, from Brooklyn, led a prayer before the first cup of ritual wine. "We pray for everyone besieged, for everyone facing starvation and mass bombardment."

"This Passover is not like other Passovers," said Klein. "So many are not with their families but this movement is our family," she added in reference to political disagreements that have divided Jewish families since the start of the war.

Klein spoke after eating the bitter herbs that represent the bitterness of slavery at the seder. "Our Judaism cannot be contained by an ethnostate, for our Judaism is internationalist by its very nature. Our Judaism cannot be protected by the rampaging military of that ethnostate, for all that military does is sow sorrow and reap hatred, including hatred against us as Jews."

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Jewish communities have often used Passover to protest about global injustice. Tuesday's protest, organizers said, was inspired by the 1969 Freedom Seder, organized by Arthur Waskow on the anniversary of Dr Martin Luther King Jr's death. The original Freedom Seder sought to connect the Jewish exodus story with the struggle for civil rights in the US and against the war in Vietnam.

One protester, a 31-year-old Jewish woman who asked not to be named for security reasons, said: "Passover is about liberation. In our family, Palestinians have always been part of our celebration and mourning. The call for liberation is more important now than ever … As Americans, the billions of our tax dollars in the Israeli military bill is outrageous and horrifying."

Jewish groups have staged a number of high-profile antiwar actions in the US since 7 October, shutting down sites from the Capitol to the Statue of Liberty. Jewish activists held another seder on Monday, the first night of Passover, at Columbia's protest encampment.

Israel's offensive has killed at least 34,000 Palestinians in Gaza including 13,000 children. The 7 October 2023 attack by Hamas killed about 1,200 people in southern Israel. Tuesday marked 200 days since the war began.

 

[Old School]

There are many anti-imperialist Jews in America, though, and they oppose the carte blanche given to Israel. This is a big difference between us and the West. We never oppose our fatally wrong policies. Our perilous Afghan policy was a DOA, but none openly criticized it for the last 30 years, and now that Afghans are in bed with someone else, our establishment has slowly let loose media criticism, albeit softer .

 

[Old School]

[H1]University of Texas anti-Israel protesters released from jail[/H1]

University of Texas anti-Israel protesters released from jail | Fox News Video

Some protesters arrested at an anti-Israel rally at the University of Texas at Austin Wednesday were released from jail Thursday. (Fox 7 Austin)

www.foxnews.com

 

[Old School]

You all will see now how Hamas will soon be ready to accept a US-sponsored inconvenient ceasefire deal favorable to Israel and brokered by Egypt and Qatar. Hamas' biggest supporter, tough guy Ebrahim Raisi, has been REMOVED !!! Now, they will also bring Benny Gantz to power in Israel by removing Netanyahu via the ICC arrest warrant. The next will be the Abraham accord between Israel and the Saudis. Ebrahim Raisi was rocking their boat, and they hit directly in the center of gravity.

 

[Ghazi52]

The Biden administration sent a letter to the Israeli government demanding it act to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza within the next 30 days or risk violating US laws governing foreign military assistance, suggesting US military aid could be in jeopardy.

The Sunday letter, jointly written by US Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, is addressed to Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant and Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer. It marks a significant new step by the US to try to compel Israel to facilitate the delivery of humanitarian aid into Gaza.

They write that the US has deep concerns about the situation and ask for “urgent and sustained actions by your government this month to reverse this trajectory.”

Since this Spring, the amount of aid delivered to Gaza has dropped more than 50% and the quantity delivered in September “was the lowest of any month during the past year,” they added.

The deadline falls after the US presidential election on November 5.

 

[Ghazi52]

Updates .............

• Israeli officials, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have assured the US that a counterstrike on Iran will be limited to military targets rather than oil or nuclear facilities, according to a source.

• The Biden administration wrote a letter to the Israeli government, demanding it act to improve the humanitarian situation in Gaza within 30 days. The United Nations has warned that Israel is effectively sealing off northern Gaza and may be carrying out a “large-scale forced transfer” of civilians, which it said would amount to a war crime.

• Hezbollah’s deputy secretary general called on Israelis to accept a ceasefire in Lebanon or face “pain,” while Netanyahu has vowed to keep striking Hezbollah targets across Lebanon, including in Beirut. The US “opposes” Israel’s bombing campaign in the capital, largely due to the civilian toll, a State Department spokesperson said Tuesday.

• Meanwhile, initial components and military personnel for the advanced air defense system the US is providing to Israel arrived in the country Monday, the Pentagon said, and more will be sent in the coming days.

 

[Ghazi52]

For the hundreds of thousands in northern Gaza, nowhere is safe - Red Crescent​

Image source, Reuters
Some Palestinians have sought refuge in bombed-out homes because there are no shelters, according to Nebal Farsakh

We've been focusing on Lebanon for the past few hours - but let's turn our attention back to Gaza, where the Hamas-run health ministry says Israeli strikes have killed 65 people in the past 24 hours.

The Palestine Red Crescent Society (PRCS) says the situation in northern Gaza is "beyond catastrophic" - and the constant threat of air strikes means "there is no safe place" for Palestinians to shelter.

Spokeswoman Nebal Farsakh tells BBC News that delays in aid deliveries - the first aid in two weeks arrived on Monday - have caused "even more human suffering".

"Children, women are being attacked, many are losing their lives," she says. "Many of the injured bleed to death without being able to receive emergency medical services."

Two days ago, the UN said more than 400,000 people, external were still in northern Gaza.

 

[Dogun18]

This is not a conspiracy. This is happening as we speak.

Agreed. It's very real.

 

[Dogun18]

 

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Sharma Ji]

Very sad, but that's war for you, full brutal.

 

[Sharma Ji]

 

[Sharma Ji]

Mossad Hasan Yousef ?

 

[Dogun18]

 

[Guru Dutt]

these idiots who make such clips forget to tell that how since 1920s same so called SCAPEGOATs massacerred almost 20000 hindus when they were agitating against fall of Turshisk/ormania khilafat even when there so called Original Muslims @ Arabs of Najad/Saudi Arabia were fighting Aganist turks

they forget to tel how when hindus , sikhs and even muslims fought for independence of india how muslims voted 90%+ for TWO Nation theory and for that started massacrre of Hindus in Calcutta in 15-08-1946 under the name of DIRECT ACTION DAY

why they forget to tell how millions of hindus were ethnically cleansed from whats Bangladesh & Pakistan now and Hindu Majority cities like Karachi , Lahore or Noakhali became Hindu less cities

and since 1930s why muslims even after selling there lands to jews rejected there clains on same lands and why they rejected every peace plan since then and when they lost control of Senai desert , Golan Hights and jeruslam in 1967 WAR why they cried victim ????


if you think masecarring Hindu or jew is OK and taking there land is ok but when they reclaim there lands its not acceptable that dose not gose no matter how much victim card you want to play

the agitation in bangladesh started as a anty reservation protest but why they agitated againstst India and killed and looted Hindu bangladeshies and destroyed Indian buissnesses ???

you want India to car for you and you love to abuse india too that dose not acceptable

 

[Dogun18]

these idiots who make such clips forget to tell that how since 1920s same so called SCAPEGOATs massacerred almost 20000 hindus when they were agitating against fall of Turshisk/ormania khilafat even when there so called Original Muslims @ Arabs of Najad/Saudi Arabia were fighting Aganist turks

they forget to tel how when hindus , sikhs and even muslims fought for independence of india how muslims voted 90%+ for TWO Nation theory and for that started massacrre of Hindus in Calcutta in 15-08-1946 under the name of DIRECT ACTION DAY

why they forget to tell how millions of hindus were ethnically cleansed from whats Bangladesh & Pakistan now and Hindu Majority cities like Karachi , Lahore or Noakhali became Hindu less cities

and since 1930s why muslims even after selling there lands to jews rejected there clains on same lands and why they rejected every peace plan since then and when they lost control of Senai desert , Golan Hights and jeruslam in 1967 WAR why they cried victim ????


if you think masecarring Hindu or jew is OK and taking there land is ok but when they reclaim there lands its not acceptable that dose not gose no matter how much victim card you want to play

the agitation in bangladesh started as a anty reservation protest but why they agitated againstst India and killed and looted Hindu bangladeshies and destroyed Indian buissnesses ???

you want India to car for you and you love to abuse india too that dose not acceptable

@Lulldapull @Sharma Ji

 

[Sharma Ji]

This is a response to musalmans of India doing huge pro Hamas rallies.

@Dogun18

 

[Guru Dutt]

@Lulldapull @Sharma Ji

well it was muslims and the so called Muslim Ulema council that decided for supporting Turkish Khilafat movement over Indian Independence movement and TWO Nation theory instead of united and stron south asia or Indepentent united India

for which they used provoking activities like masaccrre of hindus in Malabar & bengal riots and Printing Books like "KRISHAN TERI GEETA JALANI PAREGGI" distribeuting thse booklets across every madarssa and masjid inBritish India which then had India , Pakistan , Bngladesh and Burma and even Sri Lanka in it

and birth of Hindu Mahasabha (1915) & RSS ( 1925)is the consequence of same Ulema cuncil dictats and British and congress appeasment of muslims and ulema council and its off shoot the MUSLIM LEUGE ( 1905)as way back in 1910s after the British needed so called martail races in 1st World War till 1920s and they agreed to all whims of Ulema Council and muslims to use muslims for there DIVIDE & RULE POLICY for which they divided united bengal way back in 1905 east(muslim majority) west (hindu majority)

Hindu Mahasabha - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

so all the riots in India between Hindus and Muslims or Shia or Sunni were infact encouraged by British so there subjects kept infighting prolonging there rule over India and the funniest part is both Indan national congress(Allen Autavion Hume ) and Muslim Leuge were created by British(LorD Minto's direct involvement)

Indian National Congress - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All-India Muslim League - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

in the same fashion even Rohingya problem was created by british when they knew they had to leave India they and Burma they settelled large population off bengali muslims in Burma promissing them sepprrate state if they did what british wanted by that never hapenned like Punjab or bengal in burma hence the rhingya problem

same card british played in so called "Palastine" where they after arabs rejected 1946 peace treaty settelled Jordanian refugees in senai and gaza which when created trouble were sent to lebnon in mid 1960s making a sekular PEARL OF THE ORIENT into a basket case of muslim civil was state and when SHAH OH JORDAN KING HUSSAIN did a so called genocide when he drove these same remaining refugees int palestine and senai causing BLACK FRIDAY massacrre orchetrated by none other than BRIGADIER ZIA UL HAQ or Pakistani Army every one knows Munich massacrre of israeli athleates hapenned and in 1967 war more than 6 arab nations lost Jeruslam , Gaza Golan Hight and senai desert and paninsulla to Israel in WAR

and till today they are making silly videos and alying the Victim card instead of uniting and fighting like real men

so whats your point @Dogun18

 

[Dogun18]

well it was muslims and the so called Muslim Ulema council that decided for supporting Turkish Khilafat movement over Indian Independence movement and TWO Nation theory instead of united and stron south asia or Indepentent united India

for which they used provoking activities like masaccrre of hindus in Malabar & bengal riots and Printing Books like "KRISHAN TERI GEETA JALANI PAREGGI" distribeuting thse booklets across every madarssa and masjid inBritish India which then had India , Pakistan , Bngladesh and Burma and even Sri Lanka in it

and birth of Hindu Mahasabha (1915) & RSS ( 1925)is the consequence of same Ulema cuncil dictats and British and congress appeasment of muslims and ulema council and its off shoot the MUSLIM LEUGE ( 1905)as way back in 1910s after the British needed so called martail races in 1st World War till 1920s and they agreed to all whims of Ulema Council and muslims to use muslims for there DIVIDE & RULE POLICY for which they divided united bengal way back in 1905 east(muslim majority) west (hindu majority)

Hindu Mahasabha - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

so all the riots in India between Hindus and Muslims or Shia or Sunni were infact encouraged by British so there subjects kept infighting prolonging there rule over India and the funniest part is both Indan national congress(Allen Autavion Hume ) and Muslim Leuge were created by British(LorD Minto's direct involvement)

Indian National Congress - Wikipedia

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All-India Muslim League - Wikipedia

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in the same fashion even Rohingya problem was created by british when they knew they had to leave India they and Burma they settelled large population off bengali muslims in Burma promissing them sepprrate state if they did what british wanted by that never hapenned like Punjab or bengal in burma hence the rhingya problem

same card british played in so called "Palastine" where they after arabs rejected 1946 peace treaty settelled Jordanian refugees in senai and gaza which when created trouble were sent to lebnon in mid 1960s making a sekular PEARL OF THE ORIENT into a basket case of muslim civil was state and when SHAH OH JORDAN KING HUSSAIN did a so called genocide when he drove these same remaining refugees int palestine and senai causing BLACK FRIDAY massacrre orchetrated by none other than BRIGADIER ZIA UL HAQ or Pakistani Army every one knows Munich massacrre of israeli athleates hapenned and in 1967 war more than 6 arab nations lost Jeruslam , Gaza Golan Hight and senai desert and paninsulla to Israel in WAR

and till today they are making silly videos and alying the Victim card instead of uniting and fighting like real men

so whats your point @Dogun18

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[Sharma Ji]

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I defer to Guru on all matters historical, spl partition related.

 

[Guru Dutt]

I defer to Guru on all matters historical, spl partition related.

like what eactly ???